Thread 1018907

Tom steps down, chuds.

It's over.

>>1018907 (OP)
>Blender becomes corporate with new positions
That should be the title

In other news, MilkySubway just finished and is awesome and I just learned it's made with Blender

>>1018909
How did I miss that?!
Loved the OG.

>>1018907 (OP)
Doesn't matter. Blender will always be a shitty amateur app.

>>1018909
>No source
Not a single person or news claiming it’s using Blender. Why did you lie.

>>1018913
>Wah I'm a baby who needs to be spoonfed

Literally from the first search results in google
https://vook.vc/n/4409
https://cgworld.jp/article/202207-cgwjam-jisyu.html
https://note.com/keke_ent/n/nba8a01b68d28

>>1018907 (OP)
My guess is $100 a year minimum to use, or 15 a month

>>1018908
subscribe nao for 6 trillion shekels per second

>>1018907 (OP)
Coming soon: Adobe Blender. $799 annually.

>>1018915
>>1018914
>>1018918
>Can’t read Japanese
>Stupid American
>Unreliable blog post
>Blender Cult attitude
None of the 3 link ever claimed it’s created in Blender. One says it’s from Maya/3dsMax, another says they used Unreal Engine for rendering and background, the CGIworld says they used Blender to render the scene.

1) There’s no consistency between the articles or blog.

2) Two years pass which means the methods used is now outdated and the use of Blender could have been scrapped.

3) Photos do not show, lighting, controller, non-texture character and animation work. This doesn’t confirm anything, the video had animation, lighting, animation and other visual effects. Blender might not have been used for rendering.

4) Unconfirmed if students were the creators of the characters you see or if they were voice actors. No article explaining who created who.

5) Guy said he hated Blender in the interview but can’t confirm because the writers did an awful job and skipped yo the next topic.

Learn to read Japanese dumbass.

>>1018920
Sorry you had to learn this way, good luck with your denial phase. Remember, whenever you had an erection watching that show it was thanks to the superior power of Blender

>New Blender Foundation board positions will also include

>Fiona Cohen

inb4 Ton getting bored in his retirement AND upset with the new direction Blender is taking and starts a competing 3D suite from scratch

>>1018907 (OP)
That's a literal non-problem because the program will get forked if the blender foundation screws up, and all of the skilled and well-meaning developers will quit and join the new project instead.

>>1018921
Get better articles instead of blogs and bad journalism. I think one of them is ChatGPT because of the inconsistency from CGIworld and how it stole 70% of the words.

>>1018920
Blender derangement syndrome

>>1018942
>Blender cult claiming medical treatment
Mistreatment and mental abuse is a criminal offense anon. You’re no doctor if you forgot basic medical law.

>>1018943
They are using blender, max is dead, it's a meme for retro modellers trying to make a ps1 game and Maya is used by companies because they are scared of change,
If you are a Maya user trying to grab any semblance of relevance you are in the wrong place, your days are long gone, this blender's territory now

>>1018920
1. guy said he hated Maya I believe but I can't confirm either
2. He uses blender
3. Blogs don't aligning with your distorted reality is not everyone elses problem except yours.
4. You can clearly see the software being used in screenshots, it's blender
5. 2 years in a production it's nothing and you don't scrap everything just because...
6. Maya isn't shown or mentioned in any place , you are the only one who mentions it.
7. Deal with reality

>>1018944
If you were old enough like us you know that Maya wasn’t the number one priority. Softimage was the best, it got brought out by Autodesk soon after and better animation tool features were in Maya while slowly killing Softimage.

After 30 years Blender only cared about themselves and profit. Other projects like Substance, houdini, Wings3D, Metasequoia and others gotten better. Blender is behind the game not close to Wings3D or other pet projects you find in Github.

>>1018945
1) If you can’t confirmed it either then you also agreed with my statement on Journalism’s awful handling of the interview.

2) Unanswered on how it was used, no article discussing it.

3) Dear Zoomers, writing is an art and letting ChatGPT do your art makes you the biggest loser. If someone is bad at writing they are bad at writing. If journalism allowed anyone to write anything they believe so they or someone else can benefit then it’s not journalism.

4) It’s there in screenshots yes but you left out stuff like controllers (aka the lines you used to move said character). It’s weirdly perfect compared to actual work we do when it doesn’t apply normals, lighting, polygons structure, etc. Could guy just hidden the whole thing and use viewpoint to render the character, yes. Did he do that for the entire project, no. Why did he hide it, we don’t know because of bad journalism.

5) Sony’s Concor did, Valve Corp HL3 did, Blender themselves give up video and game engine development, your argument is invalid.

6) If you can’t read Japanese then why are you arguing about it.

7) see- >>1018955

The biggest trick these companies pull is to make you believe that you need them. There is a reason, that products like Softimage died, they were too robust when it comes to user interface, Maya/Max/etc kept improving every release, meanwhile the only thing softimage added was new toys and that too in a isolated mode. And people were happy.

Products like Maya/Houdini are intentionally hard to learn because then you are locked to their user interface. Windows gives free license to schools, Maya does the same. Then comes the propaganda that you don't need pencil/paper skills if you go digital, locking you again.

Everything you do with pencil/paper translates directly to digital. The tools doesn't matter if all you need to do is trace your ideas from paper to digital even a trained monkey can do it. What's funny is that Autodesk wouldn't be as big as it is now, if not for artists making actual good stuff with it.

>The things you own ends up owning you.
Carmack said: Typing has never been the bottleneck for my programming process, it's my brain. The same goes for being a better artist, how you trace your imagination using a tool should not be a bottleneck if that happens then it says more about your imagination than the tool itself.

>>1018958
There’s a clear difference between rocks you find in the ground to draw, a pencil that was man made for humans and digital build for handling harder task.

A rock can’t undo drawings and it’s susceptible to getting destroyed more easily by other elements.

Pencil/brush lacks unlimited uses, some even require more high quality materials to allow painting.

Digital only is good enough if you can pay the bills or find ways to get free electricity. Otherwise you are losing everything for nothing.

See how stupid your ChatGPT made you look.

>>1018961
You don't know what you are talking about.

>>1018963
Screwdrivers vs screw hand tool, the difference is obvious anon, the tools do make a difference. Fast effortless vs manual painful and slow.

>>1018956
1. You can't confirm either so you agree with me that saying stupid things without confirming them is stupid of your part.
2. It was used, period. The way it was used is irrelevant to answer the question if they used blender
3. ramblings of a maya user that can't stand that their favourite software is useless
4. There's screenshots, end of discussion. Deal with reality
5. Again ramblings of insanity, first it's concord and they didn't stop production whatsoever, the game was finished but they didn't had enough people to make it work, that has nothing to do with what we're talking.
6. If you can't read it either why are you arguing about it?
3.

>>1018961
If you grab a dog that is defecating you can draw pictures on the wall, that is less effective than a pencil.
If you are sitting on a chair making digital paintings you are not wasting your time typing "I'm so deep" pseudo philosophical meaningless crap like you always do.

>>1018965
>Screwdrivers vs screw hand tool
You are getting more and more incoherent every day.
All screwdrivers are screw hand tools, a different screw hand tool would be a wrench for example, Which makes your conclusion wrong.

>>1018958
>Products like Maya/Houdini are intentionally hard to learn because then you are locked to their user interface
Nah I think designing 3D software is just hard, if you make an easy to use 3D software then it's neutered and eventually you will have to switch to a "real" software
I don't think it's on purpose except for Zbrush, now that's just autism

>>1018913
his twitter showing him using blender for this project?

>>1018979
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1NXYCEHdjs
or how about a video of him discussing making the thing?

>>1018980
>>1018979
Surely you understand that if schizo-kun could be swayed by facts he'd have stopped supporting autodesk products years ago

>>1018981
It's not even about Maya or wings3d or whatever, it's about how Blender is ruining his life by existing
Rent free

>>1018955
>Metasequoia
No one's making MMD characters any more ojisan

>>1018968
1) You’re blaming me for unconfirmed reports from 2 years ago that i had no control and can’t contact the person who wrote it. See how stupid you sound anon.

2) iT wAs UsEd - Used in What Anon, answer that question.

3) How was the Journalist who cause problems for YOU became a different topic for software wars.

4) Screenshots can be created in any computer stupid. What does that actually prove. You are literally avoiding the issue of the missing controllers, scene backgrounds and other odd events.

5) Avoiding Blender’s development of killing their game engine and video editor. As well as other famous game titles in Valve Corp. Anon you just being petty with a common fact that always happens in studios and films.

6) You can’t read or write, you left capitalize words in the start. You repeat the same conversation over the same content inside the listing of your context. A random number at the end of your sentence. You got an F for failing basic grammar.

>>1018979
>Made in b3d
>Blitz3D has files called b3d
This proves what again?
https://fileinfo.com/extension/b3d

>>1018980
>>1018981
>>1018988
Looked at the video, guess what you missed because of your stupid American English only education.
>Not entirely in Blender (Clear Photoshop application in the start)
>Blender can’t handle scenes thus they were forced to get NAS hardware.
>Blender can’t render all scenes, they paid the company to render farm all scenes.
You just proved Blender sucks, not a lot of talks about the characters or scenes they created so it’s still debatable whether it’s characters were made in Blender or not.

>>1018990
Genshin Impact bitch (Plus all other hoyoverse games): https://www.bilibili.com/blackboard/era/XaW8EPOQrWcPYK3e.html

>>1019000
>Ching Chong Ching Chong
Yeah show me anything made by round eyes and/or that isn't anime slop

>>1018998
1. Yes I blame you, you wrote things you can't confirm.
2. It was used in the creation of the project, you can see screenshots of layout and modelling
3. You made it a software war, not me.
4. So you are telling me that someone hacked his computer to open it in a blender file? So it's a blender conspiracy. Why low iq people always go to this route?
5. You mentioned concord not me, and the fact that you were wrong tells me everything I need to know, also there's forks dedicated for the bge. That's the wonderful world of open source.
6. And you wrote concord wrong. I know you can't win on this conversation so you need to point my grammar mistakes.
But we can do this, you can correct my grammar and I can correct all the stupid things you say.

>>1018979
>>1018980
It's a conspiracy, they stole those models and open them in blender, they were made on Maya, vanilla Maya to be exact, some anon with a tin foil hat told me so, even ton roosendaal is behind this. Blender can't keep getting away with it.

>>1019002
You got it: https://www.deviantart.com/sab64

They are hundreds of MMD creators from all over the world stupid.

>>1019005
>Blame the guy who has no connection whatsoever with the author of the article or CGIWorld
This is stupid even for you, plus your inability to read Japanese is even more embarrassing. You could have just used Google Translate or any of the others but no, you’re choosing to die on a pointless argument because you mess up on the fact check. Didn’t even link to YouTube video that’s 2 weeks ago, no because you decided a 2 year article with ChatGPT bloggers is better.

A cultists of the Blender Foundation not realizing the ability to upload any 3D content, FBX, GlTF, OBJ, Substance, etc. Your claim is invalid, you can’t stop someone from uploading 3D content in Blender.

Still avoiding journalism, the author and publisher issue. It’s proven they mess up, you don’t need to learn Japanese language when the translation is also within the mistakes made by the author. Anyone with high school education can pice together the incorrect conclusions of the individual and the author inexperienced writing.

Blender game engine is dead anon, last update was Aug 20, 2023 and no the “automatic builds” or the blender features that were added because of Blender 4.4.

Another thing you’re avoiding is common facts about modeling in the industry. One guy in Dark Souls believed hidden content existed in game. A corporate monopoly for gaming stop making games after success in their online presence. An entire wikia was created for the sole purpose of finding lost media. Yet, you anon are scared of this fact, you hate media content suddenly disappear without cause or reason. You hate me for bring this up, you don’t want to talk about it. Anon it’s the truth, you can’t stop it. Another content will disappear like always, all media will one day never be remembered.

Anon, the “stupid” things i say can be countered by your stupid quotes. You’re really bad at English language aren’t you.

You know it's not AI generated, because AI doesn't hallucinate that much anymore

>>1018907 (OP)
Blender-Bros, I am scared... I really hope the new leadership won't turn Blender into crap and keep it free. :(

>>1019019
You can just use one of the current free versions

>>1019011
>He hates blender
>Trust me bro
You don't have any integrity.
You write things that you can't confirm.

>not realizing the ability to upload any 3D content
the screenshots show assets made in blender >>1018979 and >>1018980
Deal with reality, and if you can't l, get professional help.
There's no blender conspiracy, it's in your mind

>One guy in Dark Souls believed hidden content existed in game
Again, believing means nothing without proof. Your logic is the same as a flat earther, but even them try to create some proto logic to "prove" their beliefs.

>You’re really bad at English language aren’t you
Coming from someone who struggles to spell concord I'm not so worried.
And the correct grammar is "You’re really bad at English, aren’t you?". You forgot your punctuations, and since your phrase ends in a tag question you need to end with a question mark.
English is already a noun that refers to language, writing "English language" is redundant.
Don't be pedantic.

>>1019026
You don’t have anything either, Google Translate? Same words, explain how it’s my fault for the creator’s feelings.

Deal with facts, uploading anything into Blender is easy.

You’re getting triggered by the word “believe” because of an example sentence. How childish can you be.

It’s not a question idiot, that’s how you insult people online. You literally just prove you can’t read.

>>1018913
What kind of a fucking retard didn't know that milky subway was made in blender since literally fucking years when the artist released the original short? Can't you finally just kill yourself out of /3/ already?

>>1019030
There literally was no news about it 2 years ago. Only you Blender Cultists talked about it. No updates outside the twitter feed, Elon killing twitter. Still go ahead and blame the general public for the creator’s bad PR practices.

>>1019033
Nah, it's on you for not doing basic research. Everyone and their mom knew about milky subway

>>1019029
You upload things onto Blender?

>>1019034
No they don’t, Reddit - nothing. Facebook - nothing. Twitter - Not trending. Fediverse - Nothing. Only you people cared, his entire career of two years was bad PR.

>>1018907 (OP)
Blender needs an Indian CEO who will turn it into a subscription model.

It's sad that the blender schizo doesn't realize that you can't render long and intricate projects locally
No matter what software you're using your desktop can't render a professional movie or tv series
It's like he's never made an animation longer than a 30 second loop

>>1019033
>>1019038
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYJrRakUyvg
Three years ago

>>1019053
You can render them if stupid Blender cultists like you stop creating incompatible content. Every single 3d software company can render past 5 million polygons but Blender struggles to get past 1 million. No hardware is going to get Blender to make it work less for rendering.

Maya - Proven to creating content in higher polygon environments

3DMax - Great at creating special effects and ability to handle complex tasks without rendering farming

Houdini - Able to create complex models and processes special effects without hardware limitations

Zbrush - create realistic models with no limitations, install in any device, no limitations

Give it up, Blender is dead last compared to other platforms.

>>1019059
zeez I wonder how many of those are owned by the same company, I wonder if that could be the reason behind the compatibility.

Not to defend blender though. It's trash, I don't even use any of the modern ones for modeling. I use Softimage for modeling, scenes, etc and then export it to maya for final touch ups.

>>1019059
>Blender is dead last compared to other platforms.
Even worse, blender is killing the compatibility with older computers raising the opengl version and the minimun CPU, zbrush still works in opengl 3.3 and Core2 Duo btw.

>>1019064
Compatibility to older APIs is not important in a production environment.
I am a full-time blender hater, but compatibility is not a problem.

Things wrong with blender:
>Almost never innovates, as a result Autodesk leads the 3D industry and Blender just copy whatever they put out
>User interface/experience is dogshit

Things wrong with every 3D program:
>Runs like dog shit

>>1019059
Everything you typed here is wrong, it's not even about software wars anymore, you're a goddamn moron

>>1019066
B-but blender is not a production ready program, Blender is a toy for amateurs and some freelancers.

What the shit guys

>>1019029
>uploading anything into Blender
>Uploading
You don't know how to use a 3d modeling software. You mean importing, but from where? He stole the 3d models to "upload them" to blender?

>You’re getting triggered by the word “believe”
Blender was used in the production it's a true statement.
I believe that Maya was used in the production is an unproven conjecture.
Believing without proof is just a belief.
I prefer reality.

>It’s not a question idiot, that’s how you insult people online.
"Are you?" and "aren't you?" Are called tag questions, and always end in a question mark, "the English language" expert didn't know that, did he?
Again, don't be pedantic, nobody cares about grammar here

>>1019059
1. Maya suck al higher polygons crashes every time, blender is better than Maya except animation.

2. Max is a dead software, nobody uses that software anymore, if you want special effects and motion graphics use Houdini and cinema 4d

3. Houdini is good, nothing to complain

4. Zbrush was good, nothing to complain except for maxon

5. Blender is a full 3d package, able to create production ready models and full animations.
Blender is better than zbrush or Houdini?
No, but I doesn't need to be.

>>1019067
Oh so you can’t render anything in Blender? See how stupid that sounds anonymous.

>>1018907 (OP)
lmao i hope the new guy adds subscription plan

You guys should really learn to ignore the local /3/tard

>>1018925
Yeah there's a woman in charge of something blender is unironically fucked moving forward. Blender was successful because Ton didn't give a fuck and did what he wanted. Now you got 4 millenizoomers and design by committee never goes well. She will be crying about some bullshit like blender isn't black enough within the week.

>>1018935
And in your fantasy world will all the corporate sponsors also jump ship? Cause corporations are well known to move quickly and take chances.

>>1018907 (OP)
It's just the next guy in line taking over, nothing is going to be any different

>>1019171
I dont remember ever hearing about him in any dev update, same with the jewess
Dalai (brazilian dude) did appear pretty often in their weekly videos but I think he works under the other two now

>>1019188
The woman is a complete literal who but the new boss has been around for a VERY long time and working tightly with Ton

>>1019188
the guys in charge of the code are the Brazilian and the Russian, the other 2 will be in charge of the foundation and the studio I suppose, everything is more or less connected there.

>>1018925
I'm tired of nooticing, brahs.

>>1018955
It's so fucking funny anytime this lunatic mentions Wings3D like anyone still uses it for anything. It can't even cut true holes in geometry, it uses a secondary material to do cut-out export. pure fucking insanity.

>>1019581
You’re not supposed to cut holes in 3D originally, that feature was just for lazy people who want to be lazy. Blender kids never learn how to imagine stuff and actually work on real 3D is by far the worst thing to happen in CGI history.

Of course it's gonna be free still.
But there will be the NEW "Blender Hub"!
A centralized launcher that will allow you to download ANY version of Blender, easily! You just need to sign in to your FREE Blend Account, and you're good to go! You must remain online to use Blender, but that's so that they can provide EXCELLENT features like real-time software updates! And Cloud storage for ALL your projects! Great! Did we mention that it's still free! Oh, and any changes to the Terms & Agreements will be notified to you straight away, and you can AGREE to them with a simple click-of-a-button!
Faggots thinking this shit is going to stay free with no strings attached are, at this point, wilfully ignorant.

>>1019597
You don't understand how open-source licenses work, do you?

>>1018907 (OP)
so, dare i say, blender peak at 4.5?

>>1019649
>peak at 4.5
wtf are you talking about? Recent realeases have been mid compared to the past. Vulkan optimization is half assed and yet they advertise it as a major feature.

>>1019649
Doubtful, blender gets better every version (unless you're on the spectrum)

>>1018944
blender still struggles to keep up with maya the fuck u on about. Blender added vulkan as the next big thing and it fuckin sucked. meanwhile maya runs silky smooth with beautiful animation tools

>>1018956
3 is such a faggot take on one of the most useful tools to hit mankind. Its been out for like 3 years and already you types act like its so bad cause youre scared of change

>>1019753
>maya runs silky smooth
That's how I know you haven't spent much time with Maya, experienced users complain more than anyone about their default softwares

the fucking niggers broke ndof navigation

>>1018913
dont need to. blender is only good at making run of the mill stylized schite full stop, if somebody told me that kpop cartoon is made with blender, i wouldnt second guess it either

>>1020878
Claiming nonsense and not even providing anything isn’t going to make your point of opinion real. Blender can’t do it, won’t offer better tools and will never be profitable for anyone.

https://cgworld.jp/article/cgw319-medalist02.html
Here's an interesting tidbit, Maya was used for the big skating scenes on medalist but they eventually ported the rigs to Blender for use by the animation team

Also a 4 articles series on the use of Blender on the uma musume cinderella gray movie:
https://cgworld.jp/article/cgw234-acguma01.html

The model sheet palette rig in part 2 cracks me up

>>1020893
>>1020894
now you're just trying to trigger the schizo

>>1020893
>Originally, Blender only dealt with poses, but at the request of the drawing team, Maya's rig and controller were also ported, so it was able to handle motion, and it was used not only for skate shoes, but also as a guide for character drawing.

>Note Mgear was not ported, this is your English language mistranslation. They remake the rig. Mgear doesn’t support Blender.

So no, nothing you say was true about their usage in Blender.

>>1020894
>Only used for background and objects, not building the characters or model.
Again leaving out context

>>1020898
Guy sees “Blender” in CGIWorld and assumes the entire thing was build from Blender. I agree, this anon is baiting the schizo after the thread died with him along because this anon has history of falsely claiming things in CGIWorld while the author who wrote it clearly explains it was only a minor thing.

>>1020903
>>Only used for background and objects, not building the characters or model.
Second article in the series is literally all about building the characters in blender. But I now understand a maya user would not have the mental acuity to understand multiple pages.

>Note Mgear was not ported
No one said anything about mgear but the rig themselves, so you do in fact agree with me, you're just trying to make it sound like a bad thing that they didn't need mgear.

>>1020904
>they eventually ported the rigs
No I am not wrong when I say you left out context. Medalist used Mgear in Maya had article screenshots proving it was 100% in Maya. Blender was referenced for drawing team, they did not use Blender for animation. They did not use Blender for creating characters or objects. The rigs were not “ported” because Mgear doesn’t support it. They remake the rig and drew from poses. Nothing else comes up anon.

There is no part 2 article anon, you misread because of your dumb American education. They were not created in Blender, there was outsourcing to get it done and there is no mention of Blender being their final rendering process.

Stop lying anon