Thread 279605028

remember how elfen lied was praised to death for being deep in the 2005-2010? does it actually have some merit to it?

It was? I've always liked but it was pretty synonymous with "babby's first anime".

>>279605048
that consensus formed later
and now it doesn't hold up anymore since zoomers don't watch anime that came out before 2020

>>279605028 (OP)
everyone praised it for being fun and edgy tho

>>279605028 (OP)
it's deep because of what? nudity?

>>279605028 (OP)
no

it was mocked for being too edgy

>>279605028 (OP)
>remember how elfen lied was praised to death for being deep
No, it was a meme anime when I first heard of it

>>279605028 (OP)
Shows like Elfen Lied and Gantz showing behadings and tits made normies in the early 2000s realize that anime can be more raw a brutal than shonenshit.

babbys first edgy anime

>>279605028 (OP)
It’s basically worse Parasyte. AoT and Akame ga Kill replaced it in terms of ‘FOTM gory thriller’.

>>279605527
I'm convinced most of the hype for EL is because of the first 15 minutes.

>>279606782
It’s like Jin-Roh.

>>279606782
the op is in latin, it must be profound

nyu!

it was the first anime i watched
the second was sankarea
sankarea was a bit better

>>279605028 (OP)
It was average 2000s anime, so deep as fuck for today anime babies.

>>279608163
Is that Nina from Code Gayass?

It was never, ever “deep” whatever that is supposed to even mean. Just because the opening made your 12 year old brain feel horny and a little sad and confused and you were only able to understand some of it because again, you were 12, created this mass illusion that Elfen lied was somehow supposed to be some esoteric, profoundly deep story when in actuality it’s just a horror sci-fi story with titties and crazy Japanese powers. It’s schlock, it’s camp and it’s b-movie shit, never this biblical misunderstood gem.

>>279605528
this
anyone that says otherwise is trying to rewrite history

>>279605028 (OP)
It was never praised for being deep. Everyone only talked about how edgy and gory it was, and how it was the first anime like that for many people. The only "deep" thing about this anime is the title.

>>279605028 (OP)
It's not deep in the least, it's just a typical bad early 00s adaptation with pretentious directing to distract viewers from its rushed pacing and unfinished plot. The manga has none of the artsy stuff from the anime, and it's much better for it because it actually focuses on plot and characterization instead of navel-gazing and faux-symbolic nonsense.

Would Elfen Lied be improved if Nana was the main character instead of Lucy?

(this is a hypothetical question by the way, the answer is obviously yes)

>>279606811
I want to watch the movie just to see Kerberos in action, does it hold up?

>>279609530
no, silly weeaboo, it's Dr. Arakawa

>>279612592
If the story had been from Nana's point of view rather than Lucy's, then Lucy could have become an actually tragic character. Having Nana interact with Nyuu's friends and struggling to reconcile the need to eliminate Lucy when Lucy may very well no longer exist would carry more pathos.

>>279619375
Pretty sure that happens already, at least in the manga.

Is the manga better than the anime? I really loved the anime

https://x.com/okamotolynn/status/1920091027215364482

>However, with Parallel Paradise, I did jump on the trends at the time because I needed to pay off the mortgage for the house I’m currently living in.

>He said that the creation of the series resulted in him saving enough money to cover the mortgage debt.

Upon accumulating the funds, Okamoto decided against immediately paying off the mortgage, citing its low interest rate. He instead decided to invest the money in stocks.

This proved to be a poor decision as he subsequently lost several million yen. He reflected on the decision, indicating that knowing the outcome, he really should have just paid off the mortgage straight away.

He added that the mortgage still hasn’t been paid back.

>“As a result of selling my soul, I did save up enough money to pay off the mortgage. But once I actually had the money, I thought that rather than paying off a mortgage with an interest rate that’s practically nothing, it might be more profitable to invest this money instead. So, I invested it in stocks and, sure enough, lost several million yen. Knowing this now, I really should have just paid off the mortgage straight away (I still haven’t paid it back).“

>>279605028 (OP)
Reminder that back in the 00s, the western anime fandom was overwhelming underage

>>279620572
Much better. It has an entire second half, and explores the character arcs of all the characters that were sidelined in favor of Lucy in the anime.

>>279620677
>implying it still isn't it
this is one of the few places you can talk with 'adults' about cartoons aimed at teenagers

>>279615802
That was the joke. She was doing super smart things on a computer and in that shot kind of looked like Nina.
Also: wouldn't you be just as much of a weeaboo as me?

>>279605048
When I started downloading anime I remember using animenfo top anime list to find out what to watch next and Elfen Lied was ranked like 4th there.

>>279623692
Here is a snapshot from 2005. I remember the list didn't change much through the years.

>>279621949
Nah, most anima fans are men from their late 20s to 40s. Women left in the 10s but for some unexplained reason feminists stayed

>>279605028 (OP)
NO? I remember people fussing over the violence

>>279614536
Worth a watch, the riding hood girl was cute

>>279620572
By far and away. Pacing makes the ending more brutal. Seems like the OP was written by someone who read the manga because the anime is awful conveying the layers of betrayal and rejection Lucy works through.

This show was quite popular with women

I love Nana

>>279605028 (OP)
>remember how elfen lied was praised to death for being deep in the 2005-2010?
No, not really.

>>279605028 (OP)
It wasnt deep, just edgy. Madokagarbage was praised for the same reason.

>>279623871
Better times...

>>279619840
>man-slayer

Why didn't they just translate that as murderer?

>>279605028 (OP)
it still owns, this anime cant be made today which is why nothing comes close

>>279623871
What's crazy is that most of these are actually worth watching

>>279605028 (OP)
Even as a teenager I thought it was an edgy teen anime. I might actually enjoy it more now because I know how stupid it is.

>>279605527
That'd be his current series, parrallel paradise. Which is unironically porn with a plot.

>>279612592
I didn't understand my feelings back then but in retrospect I had a guro/ryona/tragedy/humiliation fetish since I was a kid. Nana always made me feel something special during her scenes.

>>279605028 (OP)
Elfen Lied is a better work than anything that has come on its own genre. It being remembered years after it release proves it. Only contrarian fais call it edgy when it has more layers than any recent show. It's a well crafted and directed show and I will never not like it. Fuck contrarians and their shit taste.
https://youtu.be/C8eRXXUe_G8?si=quQErbOs44sr7uv-

>>279620667
It was a smart decision to be honest. Should have put it into an ETF for more security though. The market is complete and utter fucking nonsense. Aside from insider trading there's the issue that many of the evaluations aren't based on reality like TSLA.

>>279630051
I agree. I've seen big fans of this series talk about interviews with the anime staff production, as well as actually giving the show a fair chance to be thought about that can leave you having a much better impression than most.

>>279606845
The strongest example of how a great OP/ED can make or break an anime.

>>279605048
>babby's first anime
because it
>was praised to death for being deep

It was praised only by noob weebs

Every edgy anime that consists brutal scene and tries to be about existential things is considered deep by 12-years-old and adult normies who never thought this can be showed in cartoon. Despite in reality it's just dumb and shallow as ashtray

>>279620667
>lost gazillions in stock investments
What did he do, immediately dump everything he had all into a single stock? Options? Isn’t the idea to drip feed your funds slowly and diversify your portfolio by investing into different stocks/etfs? I’m just a rookie investor but even with all the money I put in I haven’t even gone negative yet, how is this possible? Is he retarded?

You weren't alive when it came out new fag.

The ski jumping manga where the reverse trap with the huge tits gets almost raped by the dorm rapist in the first chapter was pretty hype.

>>279631186
Do they have Japanese wallstreetbets?

>>279631423
God this was so fucking hot.

>>279631432
More

>>279605028 (OP)
i thought that it touched (maybe involuntarily) on a quite interesting question: how do you deal with literal ubermensch? can you even coexist?

needless to say, the answers looked disturbing.

>>279624377
I still know a bunch of women who watch anime, what are you talking about?

>>279614536
Jin-Roh's very good it's just not an armor rompfest.

She's coming...

>>279605028 (OP)
I watched the first episode and found the use of gore distasteful.

>>279632570
They would have been ok if they were given tungsten bullets.

>>279626594
We went from that to this.

>>279605028 (OP)
This show and shit like gantz came out at the perfect time to garner unearned praise and attention. The spread of broadband internet allowed a primitive form of on demand anime piracy websites to emerge that allowed edgy 12 year olds to watch shows like this that had rape and gore or whatever and then tell everyone at school so they could go watch it as well. Also the OP/ED for this show in particular was one of the first viral videos on YouTube around like 2006.

>>279622636
I apologize

>>279634936
I always forget that Mayu exists and that she's the cutest thing ever.

>"edgy is... LE BAD"
Every modern /a/ thread for any popular show is full of degenerate shit in it, just look at gquux "discussion".
I agree that it's difficult to take series that relies on shock value seriously, but I also feel like there's something ingenuine about the criticisms shows like EL get.

it's impressive how it influenced stranger things and raised by wolves

>>279605028 (OP)
klimpt OP

Who is your favourite character?

>>279636176
its a weird circular problem where older fans say the idea of the show was bad but can't expand what that means beyond what it looks like, and nugen fans saying the show was bad because of what it looks like with no nuance

not that EL was perfect but it was an interesting show at that time since comparatively gorey shows (the thread mentions Gantz, but think Berserk or Kite) weren't aimed towards younger people and had a smaller audience range. I think /a/ forgets how bad Japan had/has it with mental health discussions, which the anime takes on in full in a hyperbolic taboofest. The effects of bullying, being the odd one out, wanting to kill yourself, being an orphan, these were not easy topics at the time especially over there, and still don't have answers today.

Its why it became the favorite of women online, because the show is able to decently navigate, in a short-form episode format, highly emotional topics with some what of empathy and understanding towards them.

>>279637930
Lucy (anime)

>>279634936
It's all good, fren.
Man, I should maybe rewatch this show now. It's only like 12 episodes, fuck it.
I'm also a sucker for weird romances where they're friends as a child, get separated with no guarantee of seeing each other again, then somehow bump into one another years later. And then Elfien Lied decided to throw amnesia into the mix. And this one especially doesn't make sense because Kouta should seriously fucking hate Lucy with every single fiber of his being. How did that development into feelings like a day after he got his memories back?

>>279639723
The manga addresses that.

>>279640822
I should really read the manga. I kinda know what happens as a general outline, but I'd like to really see what happens instead of just Lucy fucking off to fight the evil dudes all by herself and that's the end.

Poor Lucy