What can be done to fix Bleach's massive character bloat problem?

>>279836344 (OP)
Tournament Arc

Chapter 1, Shinji gets drawn, Chapter 183, he gets introduced. I think the only way to fix Bleach's character bloat is to get it written by a mangaka that knows when to stop making character designs, because Kubo really really likes to do that.

Stop adding so many fucking characters. Gintama got it right - over 350 episodes with the same core cast, and every single one of them got their moment to shine.

>>279836344 (OP)
Bleach is over, stupid.

>>279836344 (OP)
The same reason why Hellverse is the best movie. Focus on the core cast alone. Movie 1.2. and 3 suffer from Shinigami bloat. With Movie 1 being right under Hell when it focused on Ichigo and Senna.

>>279836525
>Hell arc

character dont need fixing

>>279837273
Speak english please

>>279837411
Stay on topic.

>>279836344 (OP)
>character bloat
I think their boob sizes are fine, actually

>>279836476
lmao

>>279836344 (OP)
Orihime, Karin, and Nel could be more bloated. Thicker even.

>>279836344 (OP)
Just stop adding new characters. TYBW is atrocious at this with over a dozen nobodies that are barely if at all developed. Even in the Hell one-shot Kubo couldn't help himself by adding two new Shinigami as vice-captains; as if there weren't enough to fill in the slots.

If Hell arc happens I can't wait for people to whine about how boring like half the old Gotei Captains will be. Kubo should just bring back old beloved characters if he wants people to care instead of more Shinigami wank. Szayel was a good start, even if he isn't particularly popular.

>>279837893
anon was clearly talking about them being bloated from all the food

>>279836344 (OP)
My solution is to never read or watch any bleach like I have done since forever.

>>279837996
TYBW..fuck is this arc bad. It was ass when I read it years ago and the anime is still ass from all these useless ass characters. I'm so fucking tired of Kubo constantly making all these nobodies.

The bount arc did irreversible damage to Renji. He's just an idiot.

>>279836344 (OP)
Bleach deals with that surprisingly well to be honest. The Soul Society cast is incredibly well flashed out with some rare exceptions.
The Espadas were weak in that regard, but still good. Stern Ritters are souless tho

>>279839182
>Bleach deals with that surprisingly well to be honest.
Out side of the SS arc and first half of the arrancar arc, it really does not.

>>279838338
>Non canon arc did damage
nope!

>>279839812
Most people were watching the anime, so yes it did do damage.

>>279839721
The thing is that the Stern Ritter arc is still flashing out the seireitei. So Kubo is still doing a good job dealing with the good guys. Sadly, the bad guys suffer as result( that said i still find the Espada very engaging and even complex. They just needed more pages, specially the likes of Zomarii )

>>279836344 (OP)
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO DONT ADD MORE CHARACTERS MY RETARD BRAIN CANT KEEP UP

>>279841514
Majority of those characters add nothing to the story, you could remove them without changing anything

>>279841611
I'm sorry your retard brain cant handle it

Characters can exist that aren't important and that is fine. Its not actually an issue at all. 90% of anime out there are in the DBZ variety where only the MC ever does anything, its fine for there to be series where that isn't the case.

>>279842291
There's a huge difference between "not important" and "adds nothing to the series"

Too many characters are introduced and then just do nothing meaningful

>>279842291
Deleting 50% of the cast would do wonders for Bleach and save the fall of sales during that boring ass latter half of the arrancar arc with all these slow paced shitty side character fights.

>>279842487
It's fine for there to be characters that 'add nothing'. Thats how the world works.

>>279842519
Nah. Average audience wants Goku to win every fight so anything besides that isn't as popular, but that doesn't mean that is the only way to do things.

>>279842601
Are you a shill?

>>279836344 (OP)
I could remember 250 pokemon + a shit load of trainers when I was a dumb 10 year old kid. Bleach has like what? 50ish characters by the HW arc. This complaint has always been the most retarded stupidest complaint I ever herd of from any media. Bleach even has the decency to group up several characters into factions to make sure brainlets can follow along and you still fail at that.

>>279842601
A story isn't reality, if the character adds nothing to the story, they shouldn't be in it. It's a waste of screentime that could be better used fleshing out the world, or fleshing out the characters that actually matter.

>>279842753
The issue isn't how many characters Bleach has, it's how few of them actually matter.

>>279842701
>If someone disagrees with me they are a shill
No, I just enjoy side characters getting some spotlight. One of the primary criticisms of battle shounen series like DBZ is that the MC is the only one who can do anything or win any important fights, it's nice to see a series where that is not the case.

>>279842778
The characters that you think add nothing to the story don't really take up screentime. Getting introduced in a group shot and then appearing in a few panels doesn't take away anything from the story, it fleshes out the world. You are talking about fleshing out the world but then you are mad at seeing characters who aren't 100% essential to the plot.

>>279842900
Oh, so you just haven't read or watched bleach, okay. That's dumb you'd get into a discussion about how it handles its cast, but it's the internet, whatchagonna do?

>>279842929
Oh, so you don't have any argument and you concede, I accept.

>>279842900
>One of the primary criticisms of battle shounen series like DBZ is that the MC is the only one who can do anything or win any important fights,
Which didn't change considering Ichigo's fights are the most loved with actual side characters that are interesting like Kenpachi, Ikkaku Rukia, Ishida, Byakya, Nel..etc also being memorable. Who gives a fuck about Yammy when Grimmjow exists? That character should've never existed. And character bloat is a major issue in Bleach and actually dragged the entire series down.

>>279842900
Introducing characters isn't fleshing out the world.

>279842487
>279842519
>279842701
>279842778
>279842929
See >>279842257

>>279842753
The strength of Pokemon is that it's merch and games. It's based on a VIDEO GAME franchise meanwhile Bleach is just a shonen manga that has to primarily run on it's story alone.

>>279838080
>from all these useless ass characters
>all these nobodies
yep. that's war, anon.

>>279843019
>Who gives a fuck about Yammy
I do

>>279843070
Uh huh and I like Chad and Hisagi but I wouldn't mind if they didn't exist considering both barely added to the overall narrative.

>>279836344 (OP)
Focus on good characters like Giselle

>>279843096
>Hisagi
>barely added to the overall narrative

>>279836344 (OP)
nothing, it's great and not a problem

>>279843019
>hich didn't change considering Ichigo's fights are the most loved
Yeah, general audiences (especially in Japan) are obsessed with the MC doing things. Just because that is what is popular doesn't mean that every single series needs to do that.

>>279843036
Yes it is when you are complaining about factions being introduced. You would have to either cut entire factions or cut down each faction to only a few characters. If every faction was just 3 guys that makes the world feel incredibly small.

>>279843096
>both barely added to the overall narrative.
This is just flat out untrue, both Chad and Hisagi are important at several different points in the series.

>>279842819
So just like pokemon

The truth is Kubo is just a bad writer. You can tell he just draws shit and forgot what Bleach was suppose to be. And that's how the series started falling. If Bleach actually stayed focused you would actually have far more Bleach content but no lets defend the reason the series got worse overtime.

>>279843304
>If Bleach actually stayed focused you would actually have far more Bleach content
Bleach ended because of Kubo's health issues, it had nothing to do with 'staying focused'

>but no lets defend the reason the series got worse overtime.
In your opinion. Not everyone shares this opinion, and that is okay.

>>279843304
>You can tell he just draws shit and forgot what Bleach was suppose to be
I figured that out when a show where everyone has a sword somehow turned into nothing but fucking energy attacks.

>>279843344
>Bleach ended because of Kubo's health issues, it had nothing to do with 'staying focused'
Which also concluded with dropping sales, way before the actual series ended.
>In your opinion. Not everyone shares this opinion, and that is okay.
No it's fact. The show and manga lost interest from it's general audience overtime.

>>279842601
>Average audience wants Goku to win every fight so anything besides that isn't as popular,
Except Goku doesn't win every fight and gets his ass whooped alot,

>>279843304
Pretty much this, dude's the manga equivalent to Tetsuya Nomura.

>>279836344 (OP)
Probably something like a war.
But not just any war. It has to be a really bloody one. A very long one too. Something like a hundred, no, thousand years.
Yeah, a thousand-year blood war sounds good. That would SURELY cut the roaster by like a half. Right?

>>279836344 (OP)
The problem is that Ichigo has his core cast of all his friends and family, but they're all useless and have to fuck off once an arc gets intense, at which point the Soul Society steps in to carry the narrative and emotional weight, with Ichigo hanging back to solve the big bad. Ichigo's friends need to either be solving the bulk of an arcs problems, and stick it out to the end of the arc, or Ichigo needs to start getting along with the Soul Society, but he can't have a full cast of people he cares about and a separate, extra full cast of people he solves problems with.

>>279843304
>forgot what Bleach what I wanted bleach to be
fixed it
you will never be a mangaka btw

>>279843430
>Except Goku doesn't win every fight and gets his ass whooped alot,
Just like Ichigo

>>279843619
That’s the point. That anon tried to make it seem like DB is all “Only Goku wins!” when that’s false information. Bleach is just poorly written and no amount of cope will change that.

>>279843508
Which wouldn’t be a problem if half the cast is axed. One piece has a stronger foundation of world building so it can do this and Naruto keeps its core cast focused. Bleach is poorly planned and Kubo needs help when writing it because he clearly can’t do it alone.

>>279843508
Chad should've had a send off instead of wasting panel time. He already got replaced by Renji to early in the story. Or maybe Tatsuki should've replaced him.

>>279843430
He doesn't win every fight, but he defeats every important villain.

>>279843508
>but he can't have a full cast of people he cares about and a separate, extra full cast of people he solves problems with.
There is no reason why this can't be the case.

>>279836344 (OP)
Breeding Arc

>>279844174
Not enough to flesh out that many characters

>>279844174
Kubo's too much of a hack to pull it off.

>>279844317
For me, it's Nelliel, and no, I will not elaborate further.

>>279844174
I don’t Kubo has any idea how to do so

>>279844317
Women don't roll their eyes in real life.
And if they ever do it won't be for you.
Touch grass.

>>279844320
Not every character needs fleshing out, and even then Bleach fleshes out more than the average shonen

>>279844549
>ieslb

I don't have a problem with characters getting added. I do have a problem with too few characters getting killed.

>>279844654
Kubo confirmed that editors were holding him back from killing popular characters until the final arc and he immediately started dropping them.

>>279844738
What editor told him to bring back Kira and Charlette

Cancel the show and put in the history bin. Problem solved

Ruki/a/ reigns

>>279844881
>What editor told him to bring back Kira
yikes
>and Charlette
based

The problems started when Renji joined the cast

>Yhwach: Decide Fate
>Uryu: Reverse Fate
>Ichigo: Shatter Fate

>>279844317
Bambietta is a lady not a slut

>>279845911
>fucks subordinates when bored

>Bleach Soul Resonance
Think I'll be good?

>>279845975
And then kills them, like a praying manits. That's the american dream.

>>279836344 (OP)
Kill half of them or more, of course Kubo isn't a good enough writer to actually do it

>>279846637
Killing them off would have no impact because most of them were never important to the story to begin with

>>279844317
>no harribel
we got a fag here

Sloppa is decent.

>>279846661
This. All of them just clogged up the story without meaning.

>TYBW has movie quality animation!
Name a single fight in Bleach TYBW that is as good as this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BagR0uKlhWs

Why does the final arc exist? The ending of arrancar felt like the true end.

>>279847873
Money

As I reach the conclusion of bleach, my belief that Arrancar and SS fights are the best fights in bleach is bolstered.

Loads of TYBW fights are just ace cards after ace cards until someone reveals something ridiculous

>>279844317
But that would only increase the character count

>>279846734
Go back to africa

I don't care about anything happening in the new anime. The characters are just all over the place.

>>279836344 (OP)
Bleach's character bloat is a common criticism, stemming from its vast cast across multiple arcs (Soul Society, Arrancar, Fullbring, Thousand-Year Blood War). The core issue is too many characters vying for screentime, leading to underdeveloped arcs, inconsistent power levels, and forgotten individuals.
To "fix" it, especially if hypothetically reimagining the series:
* Strict Character Pruning: Ruthlessly cut non-essential characters, especially those who appear for only a few fights and then vanish. Combine minor roles or eliminate them entirely.
* Focus on Core Cast: Prioritize development for Ichigo, his closest friends, and the essential Gotei 13/Espada/Quincy leaders. Their stories are paramount.
* Tiered Importance: Clearly define which characters are major, supporting, or background. Major characters get arcs; supporting characters reinforce the plot; background characters are just part of the setting.
* Consolidate Powers/Abilities: Instead of introducing a new power for every minor villain, recycle or evolve existing ones among the core cast. This reduces the need for new characters to showcase new abilities.
* Meaningful Deaths/Removals: Characters who serve their purpose should either have a definitive exit (death, retirement, or permanent departure) rather than lingering vaguely. This creates stakes and clears the roster.
* Arc-Specific Rosters: For major arcs, only introduce new characters absolutely necessary for that arc's plot. Minimize carry-overs if their role is finished.
* Flashbacks for Background: If a character needs backstory but isn't central, use concise flashbacks rather than full dedicated segments that halt the main plot.
Essentially, it's about prioritizing narrative efficiency over expansive world-building that doesn't serve the central story. Quality over quantity.

>>279848255
Nell isn't surviving the arc.

Kubo. Can't. Write.

>>279848255
triplets

>>279836344 (OP)
Nothing. Mangas over. Shit was a huge problem till the end.

>>279844560
If you can only use real world situations as gotchas to criticize character depictions in porn then why are you even here? Have sex, femcel.

>>279836344 (OP)
There's only like a handful of characters who never got to do anything, so there's no such problem in Bleach. You should ask it in a One Piece thread.

>>279848763
>post generated by chatgpt

>>279844738
Even in the final arc, too few died. Even with all quincy dying in the war, just from the shinigami side, I think there were more new characters (squad 0) then deaths of named characters.

Ichigo and friends could've been a core 4 with these attributes. Perfect team.

>>279850236
there' no fucking way Orihime is still a virgin

>>279844738
Bullshit, he had no issues offing Ulquiorra and Gin.

>>279843150
Do you know what barely means

>>279849750
Now post the other one.

>>279850513
I didn’t know there was another one. It just looked like cool art.

Wait a second...I hate Bleach!

>>279850236
Lol chad

Kubo gets bored quickly, he talks about Shikai and Bankai and how every character has their own, only to hold off on actually showing it for most of the cast, even Aizen. We spend the Arrancar arc talking about how everyone is hypnotized by his Shikai barring Ichigo, only for that to never matter in the end as he gets powerleveled into submission. We still don’t know what one of the main antagonist’s super special techniques is, not even through supplemental material.

>>279850236
>that female body
>doesn't live with a cock inside 24/7
unrealistic shit

>>279836344 (OP)
every shounen longer than 200 chapters has cast bloat, the author should just stop being a one-trick pony and make a new series

>>279836344 (OP)
More story, hard to put all the characters to use when the entire series is like 6 arcs at best

No excuse for certain characters like Chad and Shinji tho, that's just lack of care

>>279851313
The Bleach filler arcs weren't that good but they were the most loved of the Big 3 because they showed how little Kubo took advantage of the setting he created

>>279850832
Kubo couldn't come up with anything more broken that hijacking control of someone's five senses just by letting them see your sword
And frankly neither can I

>>279850333
Orihime is always hanging out with strong guys like Ichigo and Chad so nobody dares hit on her

>>279836344 (OP)
Best girl

>>279851163
i still can't understand how she had only one (1) child like, is Ichigo sperm faulty or what? Because it's not possible that Orihime could have some fertility problems, like LOOK AT HER!

>>279852786
Ichigo is a translator, not an oil prince. Imagine raising more than 1 kid in Japan when the main bread winner doesn't make much and the wife works at a bakery. Ichigo doesn't even know he has a bunch of Kan in the gotei.

>>279836344 (OP)
Kubo should've been more cutthroat in getting rid of minor characters that weren't popular enough. It's baffling how the SS arc is just a big misunderstanding where nobody dies but the actual war against Aizen has 0 casualties for the good guys while 90% of the bad guys die, which is extremely jarring. Similar formula for FB where Ginjo, Tsukishima and Giriko die, except they just reappear in SS a few chapters later, so they couldn't even have the decency of a legacy. Only in TYBW do we get some significant deaths (after all the bad guys die, of course) except not really, since Yamamoto, Unohana and Ukitake are back in Hell lol
>>279850363
And I have no doubt this was a mistake. Those two were very popular characters that could've done more in the story, if only to maintain fan interest. Singling them out as he did definitely made the series less popular.

It's like the worst of both worlds. Extremely large cast with lots of undeveloped characters readers don't care about that stick around and do nothing while killing off the handful of well-developed and beloved characters. It seems like Kubo is gonna repeat those same mistakes in Hell, since nobody gives a shit about Yuyu or Atau or Genshirou (introduced in TYBW and did nothing lmao)

>>279836344 (OP)
lol

>>279853055
sex anal cute girl on the right

every single fucking time i enter a new bleach thread i have to add 2-3 images to my filter

>>279836344 (OP)

Gotei 10 instead of Gotei 13 (you can remove Unohana, Ukitake and Komamura. His relationship with Tosen goes to someone else, maybe Kyoraku or even Byakuya)
Remove Ganju and Hanataro
Vizards are just Shinji and Hiyori and maybe Hachigen
Remove some of Grimmjow's and Barragan's fracción
Squad 0 doesn't exist, only Soul King

Oh, and Fullbringer and Juha saga don't exist.

There it is

>>279836344 (OP)
i wish he had done a "rescue ichigo arc" focused on his family and friends doing shit and power level reset

also for the question every character made has to get a real moment to shine

Kubo is really good at creating characters, but I feel like they never get satisfying endings. They are killed off the moment they become interesting.

>>279836344 (OP)
A bloated cast is alright as long as the writer focuses on the characters he should be focusing on, namely Ichigo, Uryu, Renji, Rukia, and Orihime.
But the problem is all of these characters bar Ichigo got shunned in favor of Kubo's 4 favorite captains. The decision to make Uryu do almost nothing throughout TYBW before revealing his botched retarded plan and jobbing to Hashbrown unceremoniously pretty much summed up why Bleach was regarded as a joke back then before all the non-fans stopped giving a shit about it and the diehards started a revisionist campaign to paint it as the best of the Big 3.

>>279853691
>>279853691
Removing some of the captains wouldn't solve the problem because Kubo would still give the remaining captains spotlight to someone else like Shunsui and Nanao during the Lille fight.
Kubo's just the kind of hack writer who would throw away something that was hyped up for hundreds of chapters for a newly introduced asspull wielded by a forgotten background character.

There's only 10 IPs itt

Nothing. Kubo literally said in an interview that he just makes up characters to move the story forward whenever he gets stuck. The fullbringers are an egregious example of this

>>279854210
Post the interview

>>279836344 (OP)
How would you fix sternritters WITHOUT reducing their numbers bros? Personally i think you shouldn't kill off mid level sternritters like BG9 or Robert so easily

>>279855294
You literally can't. Imagine if the three nobodies Zaraki offed in the first invasion actually had proper fights. Either trim their numbers from the get-go or have them die quicker. There is no other way. There is a reason the Espada were only 10 (11, counting Nelliel as a technicality) in number while other Arrancar were subservient or appeared just for brief fights. And even then, you had failures like Zommari. Juggling almost 30 "elites" is just begging for an unmitigated disaster. Characters like NaNaNa or Nianzol could've easily been removed and little about the overarching story would've changed.

>>279855294
Make the arc 100 chapters longer

>>279852557
both must be castrated sheep

>>279852557
Nobody ever explicitly pursues her because Kubo wanted her to end up with Ichigo, and he didn't want to write love triangles. It's that simple.

>>279853693
He was trying to do that in Fullbring but failed because the new characters were terrible.

>>279836476
This, a tournament arc battle royale to eliminate the character bloat

>>279853962
I can’t wait for someone to excuse this about his health and not having time when the arc was running for 4 years and he spent several chapters on one stupid Mayuri fight.

stop reading shounenshit

>>279856989
Mayuri is his favorite character, of course he'd give him a good fight. Not an excuse, just the truth. He cares about him more than a lot of other characters.

>>279857071
He never said Mayuri was his favorite stop spreading all this damn misinformation. He clearly got tired and didn’t want to draw anymore action scenes.

>>279857120
He doesn't need to say it for people to infer that fact. Some of us do actually have brains and can think for ourselves. If he was tired he could've just taken a break or shortened that fight.

>>279857234
It wasn’t just Mayuri it was all the other characters he wasted chapters on other than the main cast. I just pointed out Mayuri because it was the most boring ignore that he got his ass best in 2/3 of those fights and have to be saved. You act like the most memorable fights are written to be his when that belongs to characters like Ichigo, Zaraki, and Byakyua.

>>279857305
>It wasn’t just Mayuri it was all the other characters he wasted chapters on other than the main cast.
Some are not mentioned. Yama vs. Yhwach or Ichibe vs. Yhach are crucial fights. TYBW has tried to rectify that a little, giving Uryuu a fight with Ichigo and Renji, for example. I'm curious what Orihime and especially Sado will get in the last cour. It's impossible to NOT focus on the main cast when the conflict is framed as a war between Shinigami and Quincies. He just did it too much to the detriment of the main cast. The fact that someone like Orihime fucks off for several chapters after Quilge is damnable.
>I just pointed out Mayuri because it was the most boring
Too subjective. Some people would say Gerard's fight is worse, for example.
>Ignore that he got his ass best in 2/3 of those fights and have to be saved.
You mean his fight with Uryuu? It was the first time we saw a Bankai and one of Uryuu's best moments. He got away on his own, nobody saved him. And Pernida was a win, even if he lost Nemu was incapacitated. It's also a decent fight in TYBW, since he got to take down one of the Schutzstaffel (even with Nemu's and Zaraki's support, but same can be said for Lille vs. Shunsui requiring Nanao, not to mention the effort to take down Askin and Gerard)
>You act like the most memorable fights are written to be his when that belongs to characters like Ichigo, Zaraki, and Byakyua.
Never implied that. His fights are written differently because they rely on exposition and his asspulls to change to turns the tides. The issue, as you pointed out, is the length. I find him to be a character who overstayed his welcome because of Kubo's favoritism.

>>279857305
>It wasn’t just Mayuri it was all the other characters he wasted chapters on other than the main cast.
Some are necessary desu. Yama vs. Yhwach or Ichibe vs. Yhach are crucial fights. Anime has tried to rectify that a little, giving Uryuu fights with Ichigo and Renji, for example. I'm curious what Orihime and especially Sado will get in the last cour. It's impossible to NOT focus on the main cast when the conflict is framed as a war between Shinigami and Quincies. Kubo just did it too much to the detriment of the main cast. The fact that someone like Orihime fucks off for several chapters when SS is desperately in need of a healer after the first invasion is simply damnable.
>I just pointed out Mayuri because it was the most boring
Too subjective. Some people would say Gerard's fight is worse, for example.
>Ignore that he got his ass best in 2/3 of those fights and have to be saved.
You mean his fight with Uryuu? It was the first time we saw a Bankai and one of Uryuu's best moments. He got away on his own, nobody saved him. And Pernida was a win, even if he lost Nemu was incapacitated. It's also a decent fight in TYBW, since he got to take down one of the Schutzstaffel (even with Nemu's and Zaraki's support, but same can be said for Lille vs. Shunsui requiring Nanao, not to mention the effort to take down Askin and Gerard)
>You act like the most memorable fights are written to be his when that belongs to characters like Ichigo, Zaraki, and Byakyua.
Never implied that. His fights are written differently because they rely on exposition and his asspulls to change to turns the tides. The issue, as you pointed out, is the length. I find him to be a character who overstayed his welcome because of Kubo's favoritism.

>>279836344 (OP)
we're getting around 10 new children chars for Hell Arc, anon

>>279857071
>good fight
It wasn't good though the bad guy just no sold everything Mayuri threw at it only to lose in the very last panel because of an asspull even Mayuri didn't expect.

>>279857689
What a favorite huh. Took until the last arc to actually do something with him. I think he’s your since your so desperate to defend him despite the very few fights he had ended with him getting his ass kicked and on top of that considering others have far better moments in the manga.

>>279845996
It looks good but if it doesn't do summer alts and whatnot like Brave Souls then I'm probably not going to pick it up.

>>279855294
Kill them faster.

>>279836344 (OP)
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTjvdgXPe/
This sums up why Bleach didn’t get as far as it did from a casual and yes it’s because of the character bloat.

>>279859677
I think the devs behind Soul Resonance also did a OPM game that didn't have any alts, so I have zero hope for this game.

>>279836344 (OP)
Bleach is over, anon.
>but hell arc
Will never become anything just like Burn the Witch, Kubo made a couple of chapters and remembered how much he hates drawing manga.

>>279855294
Impressive how in an arc with so many villains Kubo still managed to turn it into Byakuya-Kenpachi-Hitsugaya dickriding

>>279860452
>Will never become anything just like Burn the Witch
That depresses me

>>279860452
They can do anime only. They don’t need kubo.

>>279860302
I understand that viewpoint, but at the same time I can't say I entirely feel the same way. The read-along threads got me to really like Tosen and the Fullbringers, because they did actually have stuff to them despite how little they're actually in the series. If we were talking about JJK then I'd definitely hold that same opinion. But overall I think Kubo did alright despite the bloat.

>>279860302
>Chad fucking sucks!
This guy can’t catch a break can he.

>>279860302
>tiktok

>>279861308
You want a shitty 30 minute video instead?

>>279860635
Hahahaha

Kubo is never letting Pierrot touch Bleach without his input ever again.

>>279861478
Says who? You realize Kubo has been sent scripts since the OG bleach? For the movies too except Hell verse, Fade to Black he was heavily involved. He doesn’t care as much as you think.

>>279861697
Kubo literally stated that the anime changes made him sick and recommended fans to just read the manga. He drew Gin with his eyes opened in a volume just to correct the studio's mistake. Kubo only started to get involved late into the anime, and even then, it was rarely direct. Like the time he called Ulquiorra and Orihime's VAs so they would get THE HEART lines just right.

>>279861872
No it was earlier than you think.
“As for the anime, Kubo wasn’t too thrilled with the changes they made to his script, to the point that it’d give him stomach aches. So he essentially demanded to be sent the scripts so he could correct them as his name is on the product and he wants it to reflect his work,” the fan continued before adding that Kubo “got really mad with some things.”

That was for the first arc and that shitty bount filler with lingering characters stepping into the main canon not the whole anime.

>>279862429
And now he's involved with TYBW production and anime so far fixed only Uryu and RG portrayal while everything else is as bad/worse than source material

>>279862617
Which doesn’t matter considering TYBW was never good anyways.

>>279862429
>shitty bount filler with lingering characters stepping into the main canon
Did anyone even like those three guys? I guess Chad fans since he got some nice characterization through that arc.

>>279862920
>Chad fans since he got some nice characterization through that arc.
No wonder why Kubo got mad

>>279862617
Part of me believes that the whole “Kubo involved” with tybw is bullshit PR marketing.

>>279863183
It's either that, or he's too lazy to re-write large parts of the arc, or he can't because Pierrot can't afford to produce more episodes, or it's too risky for them.

>>279862699
>TYBW was never good anyways.
First half is easily the best Bleach content, on par with SS arc

>>279863814
>It's either that, or he's too lazy to re-write large parts of the arc
I guess it's mostly this. The biggest anime only addition that we had in cour 3 is Renji/Uryu fight that Kubo himself admitted wasn't something he envisioned while writing TYBW (which isn't surprising considering how out of place this fight feels)

>>279861872
>Like the time he called Ulquiorra and Orihime's VAs so they would get THE HEART lines just right.
I thought he just phoned them to congratulate them on the performance for the adaptation of one the most emotional scenes in the entire manga, not that he actually asked them to voice the lines in a particular way. Or am I wrong?

>>279836344 (OP)
A plague would be a good start

Cour 1 was great, just not a fan of cour 2 and 3 because that’s when the writing problems start showing.

>>279836344 (OP)
Same fix that happened a decade ago. Drop the series

There’s rumors that Cour 2-3 was just fodder advertisement set up for Cour 4.

Whether Grimmjow admits it or not he loves being in Ichigo’s presence.

>>279844317
>AI slop

I remember rereading the beginning of Bleach a couple years ago.
I know this has been said countless times at this point, but I really wish the series remained around roughly street-level. I'm not saying you can't have escalation, just don't do all that other bullshit.

Actually, now that I think about it, I think I just really hate the Soul Society specifically. It's kind of the crux of my issues.

>>279864856
yeah which is why he didn't give a fucking about him during the entirety of the fullbring arc LOL

>>279865120
Why would he come to the human world when he lives in Hueco Mundo?

>>279865120
Sorry Kubo needed more space for the new characters. He probably forgot Grimmjow existed at that time.

>>279865333
Grimmjob originally was meant to die in HM arc but Kubo changed his mind after he became so popular amongst the fanbase

>>279865279
Re-read what he said and then re-read what I replied until you understand what I'm saying.
>>279865333
That doesn't actually rebut what I'm saying. Grimmjow never took an interest in Ichigo besides wanting to fight him.
>>279865476
Cope.

>>279865561
>That doesn't actually rebut what I'm saying. Grimmjow never took an interest in Ichigo besides wanting to fight him.
Which…is why he enjoys being in his presence

>>279865120
Were you traumatized because of all the fujo fanart

>>279836344 (OP)
A natural disaster? A WMD?

>>279865710
Fighting, or even more generally conflict, is not part of Ichigo's presence. Of course, Ichigo has to be present for him to be fought, but still.
>>279865742
Inshallah they will all burn in jahannam

>>279865773
>Fighting, or even more generally conflict, is not part of Ichigo's presence
Which has everything to do with Ichigo since that’s who he’s obsessed with fighting.

>>279865805
What?

>>279865842
What?

>>279865878
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make there.

Ichigo is destined to go to hell when be dies otherwise he’ll destroy the balance of the world. What a terrible end for a being who didn’t choose to be an experiment.

>>279866375
>all the captains and captain-level shinigami go to hell forever when they die lol lmao
What is Kubo's problem?

>>279836344 (OP)
Not a fan of the ship, but a fan of Yoruichi making Soi Fon act like a light hearted retard.

>>279866456
Didn't want them to reincarnate so he could use them in Hell if he ever (lmao) wants to write that arc.

>>279866456
Too much power corrupts message

So....is Kazui a perfect hybrid as well or he inherited only the shinigami powers from Ichigo?

>>279867617
Can he use the Almighty?

>>279868559
No be we’ll find out soon enough that Ichigo and his son can transcend death and is immortal like Aizen

>>279864871
t. el retardo

>>279836476
Does Bleach actually not have that?

>>279868761
>Does Bleach actually not have that?

Amazingly it does not.

>>279868761
Kubo can’t kill off his precious characters.

How many people in thread never watched or read Bleach.

>>279856933
the problem was there were "new characters" instead of giving the civilians powers to fight by ichigo's side. Why didn't that karate girl get a power up to puch and kick ghost.

>>279836344 (OP)
Time travel? It's a finished series.

I think fillers, OVAS, and movies did a good job of helping out the character bloat by giving everyone something to do. The manga by itself is too short and overcrowded within the span of its story.

wonder what they doing after the war

>>279869148
Imagine if Kubo built up Tatsuki and Ichigo instead

>>279870039
Dangerously close to canon.

If Ichigo has superior genetics does that mean he never has body odor

>>279871291
Ichigo has the combined body odor of humans, Shinigami, Quincy, Fullbringers, Hollows, and Arrancar.

>>279871395
what does it smell like

>>279850236
no human can have tits that big

>>279850236
Ishida looks uncomfortable there. Like his butt itches.

>>279872219
Good thing she's a Fullbringer.

>>279865120
Because ichigo lost his powers after FKT and only got them back near the end of Fullbring. it'd be pointless trying to pick a fight with him. Besides grimmjob was probably busy eating trash mobs in HM to grind his power level.

wtf did wwIII just start

But I'm grateful for filler giving Chad, Renji, Uryu, Rukia, and Ichigo all great character moments together.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvpLIg8DDM4

>>279873601
not until Yoruichi grows a cock and rapes Soifon

Welp. Should the coast get obliterated, I hope my afterlife is the soul society to dunk on Quiggers

>Warner Bros in talks for a live action Bleach adapation
How the fuck did this go under the radar.

>>279836344 (OP)
Nothing, it's a plus. Increases immersion.

>>279874003
Horrible news

>>279873901
Why is she taking a dump on Soi-fon's?

Can't without changing Kubo himself.

Hell verse keep winning.

>>279874003
Because it's likely just a rumor about something that was spitballed in a board meeting once and never again. And hopefully it stays that way, the west just needs to give it a rest with the live action remakes and adaptations. They are becoming less and less positively received with each time they try it.

it's been a long while since i had a lucid dream with Rukia. last time she glared at me in class after i showed lewd pics of her to Ukitake. that's so unlike me, i'd never do that. i wonder if she got mad at me and doesn't show up.

>>279874003
Just use the Harry Potter cast. Profit.

>>279874538
I had a dream a few nights ago where I was with Momo in a strip mall explaining world of the living did like skate shops and some weird dried fish store. You know like in the episode of river monsters where Jeremy wade goes to Africa and with a lack of electricity the locals sell dried fish that don't resemble anything like the live ones.

>>279862429
The Bount arc was so badly done and ripped apart the logic and characters of Bleach that Kubo had to step in and stop it. This is why future fillers is more on brand and feels far more like Bleach.

>>279874260
What is this a ranking of?

>>279875604
Anime movies

>>279875629
From Japanese viewers?

>>279875688
Are you serious?

>>279875700
Why so sassy?

>>279875715
Do you not see the obvious Japanese text on the image?

>>279875744
That's Japanese?

>>279875759
Yes

Terrible thread

>>279875956
No u