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Anonymous No.279924712 [Report] >>279937510 >>279980387 >>279999941
DAILY OOOKU: THE INNER CHAMBERS
FEUDAL JAPAN MANGA IS BACK ON THE BOARD

>In Edo period Japan (1603 to 1868), a strange new disease called the Redface Pox has begun to prey on the country's men. Within eighty years of the first outbreak, the male population has fallen to a quarter of the total female population. Women have taken on all the roles traditionally granted to men, even that of the Shogun. The men, precious providers of life, are carefully protected and the most beautiful of the men are sent to serve in the Shogun's Inner Chambers.
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>>279896218
last
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Let's goo
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>>279924820
Eww alas such is medicine
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>>279924971
SORCERY! BURN THE WITCH!
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>>279925083
this man (female) is a menace
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>>279925223
Japanese is weird
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>>279925317
a lazy bum AND a spiteful momma's boy, I can already tell he will become an exalted personage in the near future
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>>279925839
I always wondered down through history what percentage of doctors were knowing frauds and how many were fooling themselves
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>>279925839
>24 dead from the dreaded japanese cold
damn... if only they had washed their hands with soap
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>>279925945
now that's karma
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>>279926130
he has some nerve looking at porn right next to the shogun's consort
Anonymous No.279926170 [Report] >>279926195 >>279931502
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>>279926170
>when you meet your favorite doujin author
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Anonymous No.279926393 [Report] >>279927120 >>279935700
ovaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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>>279925083
Sex lips
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>>279925317
>complains about parents
>uses parents as a thread
This guy
Anonymous No.279926749 [Report] >>279928622
>>279925450
What the hell are they saying
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>>279925560
>Japanese cold
They're fucked
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>>279925596
I like this guy
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>>279926041
These two seem like good people
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>>279926393
Thanks thou saucy fellow
Anonymous No.279927245 [Report] >>279928622
>>279925120
>adams apple prominently displayed
wait, I thought this was a reverse trap? dare I say they might be trans?
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>>279925635
>3 things
> my mind can't keep al that at once
Retard
Anonymous No.279927445 [Report] >>279933084
>>279926081
Prince as from the royal family?
Did this happen in reality too, a princess married shogun?
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My husband (female)
>>279925450
>>279926749
My guess is those are times. "kwart" and "half" are pretty obvious fractions. Then there are numbers like "acht" and "drie" alongside "morgen" and "nacht".
>>279927245
Probably not intentional, wasn't seen last chapter and it's pretty easy to draw that kind of thing on autopilot. Besides, a portion of actual women do have an adams apple, and in this case it would help explain the success of her disguise.
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Aye gozaru
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This is easy my favorite arc since Tsunayoshi
Anonymous No.279930952 [Report]
>>279924971
Japanese Leonardo da Vinci btw
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>>279925450
I don’t fucking understand what they are saying
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>>279925751
Don’t remember, did this plague happened in previous chapters? I forgot
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>>279926170
>I meet my favorite porn author
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bump
Anonymous No.279933084 [Report] >>279940252
>>279927445
This has happened like three times already
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>>279926369
>>279926343
this is the kind of "Eureka" moments i always love about medical dramas
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>>279924820
Murder lady boner
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>>279924971
Dailys are connected
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>>279925083
Girls needs correction, bad.
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>>279925223
>Nips learning about languages with alphabets.
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>>279925367
This guy has zero survival instincts.
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>>279925635
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKSCrxh6OYY
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>>279925839
Surely now they will recognize the success of foreign medicine.
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>>279925906
Guess we found someone with an exotic taste.
Anonymous No.279934611 [Report] >>279938786
>>279926130
I love how his mood worsens whenever she appears.
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>>279926199
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erekiteru
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>>279926393
Thank you for posting.
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>>279925429
do not underestimate the japanese cold
Anonymous No.279937510 [Report] >>279940519
>>279924712 (OP)
>the entire red-face pox vaccine team has been assembled
Nice.
Anonymous No.279938786 [Report] >>279942500
>>279934611
His introduction made me think he had a churlish personality, but actually as long as he isn't around her he's a sweet and friendly boy.
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>>279933084
makes sense
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>>279937510
surely Japan will be freed from this plague any day now
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>>279938786
Guess some people don't like reverse traps.
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Soon
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The evilest bitch has arrived. But at least Sadanobu is cute
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>>279945954
The issue with the children of greats
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>>279946002
How quick the generations go by
Going by the first volume, I thought Yoshimune would be a major player for volumes
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>>279946973
The disease goes on
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>>279947262
The genderswap works quite well in times like these
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>>279947502
She doesn't get her grandmother at all
That being said she's sexy
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>>279945954
Was Yoshimune being sincere here or is she just using the rules as an excuse?
Because she never had an issue with breaking decorum before.
Anonymous No.279950030 [Report] >>279950447 >>279951725 >>279975361
ovaaaaaaaaaa
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>>279946114
>Still seething about it till her death bed
If this was the start of the manga I would just laugh. But now? This is par for the course. Everyone wants to be the top dog of the land.
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>>279949606
This is the kind of shit that would keep a man from suicide after that
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>>279949660
And here I thought we'd go one marriage without cucking
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>>279950030
Thanks thou saucy fellow
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>>279947262
oh... it's raining...
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>>279947502
>reeeeeeee
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>>279947339
She wasn't a good shogun. Even if she did get a raw deal from her mother. But man, deaths like this always get me.
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>>279947668
AINU MENTIONED!
Anonymous No.279950868 [Report] >>279950922
>>279950700
OP should dump a manga about them next
Something...Golden...
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>>279950868
i know right
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>>279947816
Oh I see where this is going
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>>279948142
I don't think this is a smart decision. But we will see.
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>>279949509
All the good ones die first.
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>>279949142
Chapter ruined!
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>>279949821
An early westaboo.
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>>279950030
Thx mate.
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>>279951685
at least he didn't beg him to put a blonde-haired blue-eyed baby in his wife
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bump
Anonymous No.279954679 [Report] >>279957916 >>279959145
>>279949071
Oh hey, someone finally had a son
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>>279954679
Nah, see >>279949660, it's just that none of them live long enough to become relevant.
Anonymous No.279959145 [Report] >>279967900 >>279967900
>>279954679
>>279957916
that and they're no longer the favored heirs, ironically
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Anonymous No.279962825 [Report] >>279965981 >>279973424
Just wanted to say thanks OP. This might become my new favorite manga, you've got me coming back to this website every day like it's 2010 again. Watched the anime when it aired but never got around to reading thee rest, makes me wonder what else I'm missing out on. Political intrigue stories are the best but hard to find, so it's nice when one gets attention.
Anonymous No.279962898 [Report] >>279969249
I fucking hate reverse traps so much it's unreal!
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Bump
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>>279962825
edit attempted, hopefully worth the image space
I even tried redrawing pages from this chapter
Anonymous No.279967900 [Report] >>279969142
>>279959145
>>279959145
>that and they're no longer the favored heirs, ironically
Thanks Tsunayoshi
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>>279967900
Ienobu rescinded that too.
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>>279962898
Sounds kinda gay to me man
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>>279969249
Yes, they are gay.
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>>279949864
>>279949821
Man this was sad, i teared a bit. The prince was a true lad
Anonymous No.279970936 [Report] >>279977425
Euros
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>>279969142
It had already become tradition. No one is going to make a son the heir when he has only 1/5 chance of reaching adulthood. Well no one important anyway.
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>>279962825
You're missing out on Hyouge Mono quite probably
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>>279950030
Thank you for posting.
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>>279970936
Arigato.
Anonymous No.279977798 [Report] >>279978926
>>279973424
Not that anon but I've also been enjoying these story times for the same reason, so I will check Hyouge Mono out. Thank you for the recommendation.
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>>279977798
It happens to tie in nicely with Oooku as well, since it covers much of the Sengoku era until the rule of the second Tokugawa shogun and also focuses on the politicking and personal drama of great families.
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>>279973424
>a fellow /a/esthete
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>>279973424
I keep meaning to read this, but then I started Elusive Samurai and didn't want to read two historical Japanese series at once, then this started and I still didn't want to read two historical Japanese series at once
Maybe after this dump is over
Anonymous No.279980387 [Report] >>279980871 >>279985308
>>279924712 (OP)
>the male population has fallen to a quarter of the total female population. Women have taken on all the roles traditionally granted to men, even that of the Shogun
I like where this is going.
>the most beautiful of the men are sent to serve in the Shogun's Inner Chambers
Wait is this reverse harem cuckshit?
Anonymous No.279980871 [Report] >>279983259 >>279985308
>>279980387
I want to call you a faggot but you're completely correct, as it happens
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>>279982018
>the Age of Tanuma
quite a honor for the child of a mere footsoldier
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>>279982201
these damn voyeurs
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>>279982176
I remember that surgery scene from Shigurui. Man, that was nasty.
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>>279982586
I love ancient bigotries
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>>279982316
Can never be too safe.
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>>279982557
>Can perform their job well
>>279982586
>But his way is still wrong
Ancient mental gymnastics!
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>>279982681
And the chapter was going well.
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>>279982803
For a 30 year old hag with knowledge in medicine she doesn't have a good survival instinct
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>>279981956
Outstanding how many lives the common sense and cleanliness of today saved
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>>279982967
THREE THOUSAND MEN!
MAYBE MORE!
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>>279980871
I'm out then, thanks for the warning.
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>>279982284
Our fucking guy going strong
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>>279982316
Competent and reasonable characters are such a relief
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>>279982432
I've never seen manga characters use the word 'mam' before this manga and every time they do it's like a smack in the face
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>>279983346
Kek. Even Kuroki is having trouble keeping a straight face.
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>>279983376
Huge DOUBT here.
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>>279982524
Hmm...if only there was a way to give a man a small, controlled infection to develop an immunity to the disease...
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>>279982586
>>279982618
Can the shogun exile her already
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>>279982681
This mere landlord doth speak too presumptuously to a lofty senior councillor, cousin of the shogun or not
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>>279983646
For a woman who lusts over women she knows nothing about the hearts of other women.
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>>279982803
Absolutely mindbroken
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>>279982967
Dirty filthy stinky virgin princess
With one page I want her NOW
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>>279983732
She's still the granddaughter of their most respected shogun. And if Tanuma knows how her mother was like then she knows better than to cause a potential conflict.
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Anonymous No.279983963 [Report] >>279984294 >>279998977 >>280001651
ovaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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>>279983249
SCIENCE
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>>279983259
Your choice, but you're missing out
Cucking would happen in this society, and it does a good job of showing what happens when it does
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>>279983346
Redemption comes from the strangest of places
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>>279983403
I think a peck would've satisfied her
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>>279983545
A slut lesbian
Interesting
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>>279982967
>sadanobu achieving peak moe
In any other series she'd be best girl. But here the female cast is so high in quality that she has no chance. Still. Top five cutest Tokugawa include her.
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>>279983680
This is what reverse traps do to you
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>>279983710
And just like that, progress was set back another century
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>>279983963
Thanks thou saucy fellow
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>>279982803
This poor girl doesn't even realize that the reason she's always angry and unhappy is her own mother.
Anonymous No.279984467 [Report] >>279985525
>>279949966
It's not about decorum, if they don't stick to "The firstborn is the heir" the Tokugawa rule will eventually crumble under it's own weight.
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>>279980387
>>279980871
There is a difference between "cuckshit" and "story in which some cucking occurs". This is not a manga for people who are into NTR.
>>279947754
>>279983376
Tanuma's outfits are top notch. Nice that the manga is actually showing why she would be critiqued for her lavish lifestyle.
Anonymous No.279985525 [Report] >>279985842
>>279984467
I'm a bit skeptical of that considering she had no issue breaking the "first guy to deflower the shogun gets killed" rule. Even though she gained nothing from it. Though, to be fair she did keep it a hushed affair.
I also doubt it's going to be any worse than keeping Ieshige as shogun. Remember, people were expecting Munetake to be the successor despite the rule that the elder should be the one to take the seat.
Anonymous No.279985842 [Report] >>279987501 >>279991773
>>279985525
There's a difference between changing whether or not an innocent man gets killed for no reason once a generation, and potentially allowing the succession to turn into a free-for-all once you die
Abdicating with years left to your life like she did is one way to avoid that, but people die uncertainly, and you can't trust all your successors to be as wise as you are
Anonymous No.279985912 [Report] >>279986651
>>279983026
did they really have this kind of primitive vaccin back then?
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>>279985912
apparently, look up "variolation"
this is also just a short time before jenner figured out the cowpox vaccine
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>>279982775
too damn cocky
Anonymous No.279987501 [Report] >>279987624
>>279985842
Yeah, succession crisises are one of the worst things you can have happen (they turn into civil wars very easily) so that basically anything you can do to avoid them is good. Even the wrong person ending up on the throne is better, because a bad ruler can be managed but it's impossible to manage a scramble for the throne.
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>>279982967
even her NECK is blushing
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>>279987501
It's rough because the theory behind them is completely sound
If a king decides his first son's a retard and his second son would be a wonderful ruler, it makes all the sense in the world, and if he safely abdicated and gets to see a good while of the next reign, and the birth of at least one boy, things can be called safe
But that won't happen forever
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>>279983317
a tsundere and a kuudere
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>>279983403
daaaamn
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>>279983462
A material better known as asbestos, though it's indeed called "stone cotton" (石綿) in japanese to this day
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>>279983516
>>279983545
what a playboy (female)
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>>279983710
>>279984262
well shit, my reverse trap is in peril
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Bump
Anonymous No.279991314 [Report]
Not soon
Anonymous No.279991773 [Report] >>279992353
>>279985842
Normally I would agree. But everyone, including Ieshige herself, understood that Munetake is the better choice. And the former's reign proved that.
This was the one instance Yoshimune should have went against the status quo.
Anonymous No.279992353 [Report] >>279992573
>>279991773
Ieshige knew to stay out of the way, letting Yoshimune and her trusted advisors run the show. And then she formally retired as soon as her heir (who also had Yoshimune's approval) was ready for the job. Yes they could have got away with going against he status quo without any resistance, but this way maintained it while keeping the government running smoothly. It was uneventful enough that we got a side story about cooking.
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Anonymous No.279992573 [Report] >>279994288
>>279992353
Ieshige's reign didn't get much focus but from the little we got it wasn't great. However, the point is that I don't think Yoshimune was sincere when she explained to Munetake the reason why she couldn't become a shogun. Rather an attempt to shift the blame into something other than her over the choice.
This is a situation where she should have acted as a leader but instead chose to be a mother. Probably to avoid humiliating Ieshige and to calm Munetake. Ironically failing at both.
Anonymous No.279993294 [Report] >>279996833 >>279998611
All i remember from this arc is kuroki screaming at the sky
Anonymous No.279994288 [Report] >>280000314 >>280007405
>>279992573
>don't think Yoshimune was sincere
I think you are reading too much into things and missing the point. Yoshimune's main goal was a stable Japan under a stable Tokugawa rule in the long term. She was certainly willing to humiliate or upset her daughters to hinder the re-emergence of succession disputes. Sure, Munetake would have been a better ruler than Ieshige. Even if she turned out incompetent or spiteful she would be more respected and that is important. But it would set a precedent where every envious 2nd child in future generations feels like they have a claim to the title of Shogun. And think about how this fits in thematically with Hisamichi's confession. Yoshimune herself gained power because her own elder sisters were 'removed' - but did not approve of it.
>she should have acted as a leader but instead chose to be a mother
You have it backwards. Yoshimune WAS acting as a leader, and chose the option which would logically be best for the future of the realm, while ensuring that she (and later Okitsugu) could keep an eye on things in the short term. She knew that Ieshige would suffer as Shogun but told her to suck it up.
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>>279982618
She's such a dummy.
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>>279993294
It's one of the best scenes in the series.
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>>279982999
Let's not talk about the Indian method
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Test
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>>279993294
The most important part.
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>>279949390
The gayest fish
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>>279983963
Thanks for the dump
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>>279924712 (OP)
Eurooo
Anonymous No.280000314 [Report] >>280005863 >>280006480
>>279994288
Thing is Yoshimune knew that precedents need to made in order to fix the land. Just like how she thought the taxation of the merchant class was the right thing to do despite how unusual it was. Even if a second child did want the seat of the shogun in the future this come second to the current predicament. Everyone wanted Munetake to be the ruler, she included.
I really think her motherly side won her over. If she wasn't she should have told Munetake that Ieshige was the better choice. Even if it was a lie it wouldn't have caused her to hold a grudge over it not idolize Yoshimune to the degree that her granddaughter is vying for the seat because of her. While Yoshimune was a good leader and her goal was to create a stable rule, she created a future where an incomptent shogun came after her and a potential threat emerged in it.
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>>279983963
Thank you for posting.
Anonymous No.280002593 [Report]
Kazu-no.miya a best!
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>>279986651
Interesting.
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>>280000314
Salient points.
Anonymous No.280006480 [Report] >>280006814 >>280007405
>>280000314
>she should have told Munetake that Ieshige was the better choice
She did. To "prevent succession disputes among heirs". Breaking the right of primogeniture is a temporary solution for a weak heir which creates the permanent problem of uncertain succession. A caring mother would not have pushed that responsibility onto Ieshige, who clearly did not want it. There is no reason to think that Yoshimune of all people is being insincere.
>she created a future where...
Where she held on to power herself, put trusted advisors in charge, and things went back to normal after the temporary reign of an unpopular Shogun. Yoshimune could not know what fuckery her granddaughters and beyond would get up to. So she ignored the feelings of her daughters, and left the traditional succession practices were intact, so that future Shoguns were better equipped to resist attempts at seizing power.
>incompetent
More like 'incontinent' lmao
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>>280006480
Those are good points and I have more to say regarding the topic, but I would rather wait and see how the current shogun reign goes as well as how Sadanobu's plot develop. That will determine whether Yoshimune did the right thing or not for me.
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>>279994288
>>280006480
This. It's also worth noting that Yoshimune was a rigorous Neo-Confucian ruler, she values virtue more than wits, and she had judged that her second daughter was lacking in that regard, no matter how clever she was. It's just fine for a ruler to have smart and skilled advisors, all the ruler needs is knowledge of the classics (because it's supposed to instill the right virtues.) Yoshimune strongly implied that Munetake's superficial grace or intellectual proficiency was meaningless.
Of course Ieshige was not perfectly virtuous either, she was weak-willed and insecure, pettily cruel and dissolute. But she exemplified filial piety and humility, she loved her honored mother and did not despise her family. If her mother had decided one of her sisters would be the heir instead, she would have only blamed herself for failing to live up to expectations and quietly died of grief. Compare that to her sister, who ended up earning her mother's disdain for her ugly envy and slander, and raised her daughter with the same mentality, causing strife and discord in the family. (Granted, one could say Yoshimune should have cynically picked Munetake to avoid causing resentment...)
Anonymous No.280008801 [Report] >>280009441 >>280010954
The principle that the eldest son would become the successor was established by the first shogun, Ieyasu. So Yoshimune followed it. The author omitted it, but in real history, a similar battle for succession occurred when the third shogun was chosen. Many vassals thought that Tadanaga, the second son, would be a better choice than Iemitsu, the eldest, because Tadanaga was healthy, clever, and handsome, while Iemitsu was sickly, stuttered, and not so good-looking. Even their parents preferred Tadanaga. At that time, the retired first shogun, Ieyasu, strongly urged respect for the eldest succession rule, so Iemitsu was confirmed as the successor. Tadanaga, who had been pampered throughout his childhood, continued to behave arrogantly even after coming of age. In the end, he was ordered to commit seppuku and died, despite being the shogun's brother.
It is not so easy to evaluate a person's character.
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>>280008801
>The author omitted it
It was mentioned in passing, in fact.
Anonymous No.280010887 [Report]
Soon
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>>280008801
>In the end, he was ordered to commit seppuku and died, despite being the shogun's brother.
God I can only hope
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Soooooooonish
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test
Anonymous No.280012151 [Report] >>280012198 >>280012488 >>280012954 >>280013822
i thought i was banned lol
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>>280012151
>everyone smiling in the cover
FEUDAL JAPAN NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>280012247
>congratulations!
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>>280012363
>>280012393
holy shit, how did we go so far without one of these?
Anonymous No.280012455 [Report] >>280012655
>>280012420
from here onwards, theres one each new volume with the proper age progressions of the characters lol
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>>280012151
What the fuck
Multiple people
This feels like a final volume cover and that has me nervous
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>>280012327
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAmn4eMusZk&list
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>>280012488
Same, Anon
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>>280012539
natto is fucking awful, what a psyop
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>>280012363
>>280012393
Incredibly useful
I had honestly missed that Yoshimune wasn't a descendent of Iemitsu somewhere down the line, shame the lineage broke
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>>280012455
Vaxx...
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>>280012488
>>280012488
>This feels like a final volume cover and that has me nervous
It's the end of an age.
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>>280012648
that's a death flag if I've ever seen one.
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>>280012500
Man boobs
And not the nasty kind
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>>280012608
>ngaa
You can't say that baby
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>>280012804
>they say
lel
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>>280012916
ah yes, I remember reading about him too.
Anonymous No.280012954 [Report] >>280013002 >>280013029
>>280012151
I love how this cute and cheerful cover instantly filled every anon with dread.
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>>280012916
If only Arikoto were here...
Anonymous No.280012986 [Report] >>280013037
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>>280012954
Look man
In a miserable world the smiling are either vulnerable or dead
Anonymous No.280013006 [Report] >>280013066
>>280012916
I had forgotten that before emmnnosuke, there was motherfucking arikoto
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>>280012954
don't you know it's against the shogun's peace to be happy?
Anonymous No.280013037 [Report] >>280014114
>>280012986
Why does he get so mad everytime he sees her
Does he like her or something
Anonymous No.280013050 [Report] >>280013102 >>280013130
Anonymous No.280013066 [Report]
>>280013006
Actually the motherfucker was Sakyo
Anonymous No.280013082 [Report] >>280013092
Anonymous No.280013092 [Report]
>>280013082
In his own way, Yoshizo managed to win pretty hard too
Anonymous No.280013102 [Report]
>>280013050
He looks so much happier in his old age.
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>>280013050
I'm so glad he made it
Anonymous No.280013155 [Report] >>280013165 >>280013185 >>280013214
Anonymous No.280013165 [Report]
>>280013155
A lifetime in the Ooku does things to a man
Anonymous No.280013179 [Report] >>280014231
Anonymous No.280013185 [Report]
>>280013155
>bagged a hot twink with a tight ass
ah, no wonder he's so jovial now.
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Anonymous No.280013214 [Report]
>>280013155
...I'm so gad he made it
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>>280013213
Me too, Aonuma
Anonymous No.280013248 [Report] >>280013283 >>280013459
Anonymous No.280013250 [Report] >>280013291
>>280013213
>that fucking callback
goddamnit
Anonymous No.280013271 [Report] >>280013397 >>280013435
Anonymous No.280013283 [Report]
>>280013248
...t'would be pitiable, for sure
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>>280013250
It's good to know the women of Edo are still fingering themselves thinking about our guy
Anonymous No.280013292 [Report]
>>280013213
don't try to get him laid, that will only bring in problems
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Anonymous No.280013338 [Report] >>280013373 >>280013377
Anonymous No.280013366 [Report] >>280014361
Anonymous No.280013373 [Report]
>>280013338
the inner chambers are still full of assholes, I see
Anonymous No.280013377 [Report]
>>280013338
>and yet was unable to save poor Kusaaka, when he did fall ill with it!
How easily things are spun
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>>280013271
lol
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Anonymous No.280013430 [Report]
>>280013400
looks like this generation is duller for once
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>>280013271
Ihei, I thought you didn't like being helpful?
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>>280013248
lmao
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Anonymous No.280013532 [Report] >>280013588
Anonymous No.280013563 [Report] >>280016306
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>>280013532
death flags for everybody
Anonymous No.280013596 [Report] >>280017409
Anonymous No.280013625 [Report] >>280013664 >>280018826
Anonymous No.280013658 [Report] >>280018826
Anonymous No.280013664 [Report] >>280013728
>>280013625
>ugly bastard gangrape
I was expecting misery. I should've expected this
Anonymous No.280013694 [Report] >>280013728
Anonymous No.280013720 [Report] >>280014466
Anonymous No.280013728 [Report] >>280013764
>>280013694
when the nostalgic flashback starts during a chase scene you know the character is doomed

>>280013664
>ugly
worse
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Anonymous No.280013764 [Report]
>>280013728
Oh
They're diseased
Anonymous No.280013795 [Report] >>280013850 >>280013933
Anonymous No.280013809 [Report]
>>280013753
What a playgirl
Anonymous No.280013822 [Report] >>280015926
>>280012151
Giving me Paranoia Agent OP vibe.
Anonymous No.280013835 [Report] >>280013887
Anonymous No.280013850 [Report]
>>280013795
Brother is quite shrewd.
Anonymous No.280013863 [Report]
>>280012327
>Even in the cover, he's still mad at her.
Anonymous No.280013887 [Report]
>>280013835
Only so much time in the world
Good for her
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>>280013795
she looks really cute in that middle panel
Anonymous No.280013945 [Report] >>280014089
Anonymous No.280013975 [Report] >>280014009 >>280014018 >>280014089
Anonymous No.280014009 [Report] >>280014107
>>280013975
I assume we're to read this as a broken hymen
Poor girl
Anonymous No.280014018 [Report]
>>280013975
I wonder if she had to pay 100 ryo for that. Probably only a fraction.
Anonymous No.280014025 [Report] >>280014089 >>280018634
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>>280012847
These slice of life snippets feels like the build-up to something ominous.
Anonymous No.280014063 [Report] >>280014092 >>280014094
Anonymous No.280014086 [Report] >>280015398
>>280012916
Arikoto, now that was a man.
He could fix all problems if he was here.
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>>280013945
>>280013975
>>280014025
:(
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>>280014063
The fuck's this
Anonymous No.280014094 [Report] >>280015794 >>280017409
>>280014063
what the
Anonymous No.280014101 [Report] >>280014116 >>280014558 >>280016283
ovaaaaaaaaaaa
Anonymous No.280014107 [Report]
>>280014009
Even if she preferred women, with how brazen and promiscuous she was I doubt she has kept her hymen all this time.
I interpreted it more as her being "broken" by this experience, although vaginal lesions wouldn't be surprising.
Anonymous No.280014114 [Report]
>>280013037
>Want to enjoy the smell of flowers
>She brings a fish
I would be pissed as well.
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>>280014101
Thanks thou saucy fellow
Anonymous No.280014231 [Report] >>280014542
>>280013179
Anal sex... is kind!
Anonymous No.280014289 [Report]
>>280013213
>The sluts look in the second panel.
Anonymous No.280014361 [Report]
>>280013366
I see that the inner chambers misses the days of Tsunoyoshi.
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>>280013720
A book nerd's paradise.
Anonymous No.280014542 [Report]
>>280014231
Remember Mizuno's boyfriend back in volume 1?
Come to think of it, our guy's probably dead by now
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>>280014101
Thx mate.
Anonymous No.280014629 [Report] >>280014715
FUCK YEAH! THIS IS WHAT I'M HERE FOR!!!
Tragedy, despair, bad endings, evil deeds. That was what I've been waiting for. Enough with the sappy happiness, it's FEUDAL JAPAN time!
Anonymous No.280014715 [Report]
>>280014629
Yes, this arc has been fairly light-hearted but that's ending right about now.
And next arc is even darker.
Anonymous No.280014745 [Report] >>280014868
just to be clear, are we still in the 1700s?
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>>280014745
yep
Anonymous No.280014955 [Report] >>280015466
>>280012608
They had schools? When is this?
Anonymous No.280015398 [Report] >>280019185
>>280014086
>Wherever happened to Arikoto? The strong silent type. That was a Nipponjin.
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>>280013213
>Gennai blushed
She thought about it. Being his Ikushima.
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>>280014955
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terakoya
Anonymous No.280015794 [Report] >>280015811
>>280014092
>>280014094
Modern DNA transcription. Shorthand for the vaccine.
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>>280015794
That's pretty cool
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>>280013822
same thought
Anonymous No.280016283 [Report]
>>280014101
>gennai drawing porn as chapter end
lewd
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>>280013563
geez the sense everything is about to fall into hell is so strong
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>>279925450
dutch is not a serious language
Anonymous No.280017409 [Report] >>280017705 >>280017864 >>280018481
>>280013596
>The eel selleers in the "put it on rice" counry never once tried putting eel on rice.
Alright now that is pushing it.
Good chapter though. I was going to post last thread about how I'd been loving the chapter start/end atr pages, especially the ones with thee ornately decorated ceiling images. And this time we get some aesthetic whiplash with serous foreshadowing. Very nice.
>>280014092
>>280014094
The letters G, A, C, & T are used for DNA components. Surprised that isn't common knowledge.
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>>280017409
I-I know what it was, just didn't understand at first what it meant in relation to the manga...
Anonymous No.280017864 [Report] >>280018481 >>280018826
>>280017409
And yet, it's actually assigning an earlier date to the "tradition" than the history on Wikipedia:

>Una-don was the first type of donburi rice dish, invented in the late Edo period, during the Bunka era (1804–1818)[5] by a man named Imasuke Ōkubo [ja][5] of Sakai-machi (in present-day Nihonbashi Ningyōchō, Chūō, Tokyo), and became a hit in the neighborhood, where the Nakamura-za and Ichimura-za once stood.
>The first eatery to sell it as a business is claimed to be Ōnoya (大野屋),[6] in Fukiyachō (葺屋町) (adjacent to Sakai-chō) at some indeterminate time, but presumably before the theaters burnt down in 1841 and moved off. After the great famine of 1844, it started selling the unadon for one oblong Tenpō-sen coin, and became a hit.[6]

Note that it calls it the first donburi dish to go popular, that is, the first "put it on rice" dish.
Anonymous No.280018481 [Report] >>280019336
>>280017864
>>280017409
Fucking japs, have to "invent" putting rice on things even when rice is 90% of the diet.
>muh tradition
fucking retards
Anonymous No.280018634 [Report] >>280018786
>>280014025
Truly a woman, couldn't even use those damn swords for any good.
Anonymous No.280018786 [Report]
>>280018634
The thugs explicitly said they're bamboo swords.
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>>280013625
>>280013658
Syphilis?
>>280017864
I simply don't believe that. Putting meats, fish, or other rich ingredients onto your staple carb source is a universal human experience. Like how the 4th Earl of Sandwich was not the first guy to put beef between bread.My assumption is that by 'invented' what they mean is 'canonized as a dish with its own name and acceptable for the tradition-obsessed upper crust to eat'.
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>>280012363
tsunayoshi did nothing wrong btw
Anonymous No.280019051 [Report] >>280019226
>>280018946
She cucked an entire family to death and still didn't have an heir live to adulthood, that's pretty wrong
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>>280018946
the dog laws and handling of the 47 ronin affair were pretty retarded, if you care that little about running the country just step down.
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>>280015398
>He was gay? O-man?
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>>280018826
>spoiler
>Yeah.

>>280018946
This >>280019051 alone makes her bad. Her not growing up and remaining her dad's puppet/ going along with his delusions until her 50s makes her terrible.
Anonymous No.280019289 [Report] >>280019494
>>280018946
The inner chambers number one shogun. Never a slow day with her!
Anonymous No.280019336 [Report]
>>280018481
the real breakthrough came with new techniques in household fires. rice could now be heated enough to cook whatever is on top of it!
Anonymous No.280019346 [Report]
>>280018946
0/10 would watch again
Anonymous No.280019389 [Report] >>280019477
>>280018826
Probably, yeah. Food history is almost all pop history and legends anyway. But the author is just putting her spin on the commonly-known history of the dish.
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>>280019389
There's plenty of reliable food history, since people have been writing down recipes for as long as writing has existed, it's just the stories that restaurants make up about the origin of dishes that are almost always bullshit because most recipes are just something somebody tried one day and it was good, there's almost never an actually interesting and thus marketable story behind it.
Anonymous No.280019494 [Report] >>280019799
>>280019289
I want her to blow me, I'll give her that much
Anonymous No.280019799 [Report] >>280019935 >>280019988
>>280019494
That'd probably be much better than anything she could do with her dried up, cavernous, accursed, infertile and assuredly stinky pussy
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>>280019799
>Doubting THE shogun's experience
The inner chamber remembers her for a reason.
Anonymous No.280019988 [Report] >>280020197
>>280019799
tsunayoshi: but first, you shall service me *spreads legs*
concubine: but, uh...
>guy behind the curtain: YOU DARE DEFY THE WILL OF THE SHOGUN!?
Anonymous No.280020197 [Report] >>280020550
>>280019988
>tsunayoshi: but first, you shall service me *spreads legs*
[muffled] as you wish, my lord
Gawain No.280020497 [Report] >>280021864
See you tomorrow
Anonymous No.280020550 [Report]
>>280020197
>and this is how the japanese discovered the chemical weapons that enabled them to win over russia even with a male disadvantage.
Anonymous No.280021864 [Report]
>>280020497
See you then