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FEUDAL JAPAN MANGA IS BACK ON THE BOARD
>In Edo period Japan (1603 to 1868), a strange new disease called the Redface Pox has begun to prey on the country's men. Within eighty years of the first outbreak, the male population has fallen to a quarter of the total female population. Women have taken on all the roles traditionally granted to men, even that of the Shogun. The men, precious providers of life, are carefully protected and the most beautiful of the men are sent to serve in the Shogun's Inner Chambers.
>>279924820Eww alas such is medicine
>>279925083this man (female) is a menace
>>279925317a lazy bum AND a spiteful momma's boy, I can already tell he will become an exalted personage in the near future
>>279925839I always wondered down through history what percentage of doctors were knowing frauds and how many were fooling themselves
>>279925839>24 dead from the dreaded japanese colddamn... if only they had washed their hands with soap
>>279926130he has some nerve looking at porn right next to the shogun's consort
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>>279925450What the hell are they saying
>>279926041These two seem like good people
>>279925120>adams apple prominently displayedwait, I thought this was a reverse trap? dare I say they might be trans?
>>279926081Prince as from the royal family?
Did this happen in reality too, a princess married shogun?
My husband (female)
>>279925450>>279926749My guess is those are times. "kwart" and "half" are pretty obvious fractions. Then there are numbers like "acht" and "drie" alongside "morgen" and "nacht".
>>279927245Probably not intentional, wasn't seen last chapter and it's pretty easy to draw that kind of thing on autopilot. Besides, a portion of actual women do have an adams apple, and in this case it would help explain the success of her disguise.
This is easy my favorite arc since Tsunayoshi
>>279924971Japanese Leonardo da Vinci btw
>>279925450I donโt fucking understand what they are saying
>>279925751Donโt remember, did this plague happened in previous chapters? I forgot
>>279927445This has happened like three times already
>>279926369>>279926343this is the kind of "Eureka" moments i always love about medical dramas
>>279925083Girls needs correction, bad.
>>279925367This guy has zero survival instincts.
>>279925635https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKSCrxh6OYY
>>279925839Surely now they will recognize the success of foreign medicine.
>>279925906Guess we found someone with an exotic taste.
>>279926130I love how his mood worsens whenever she appears.
>>279926199https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erekiteru
>>279925429do not underestimate the japanese cold
>>279934611His introduction made me think he had a churlish personality, but actually as long as he isn't around her he's a sweet and friendly boy.
>>279937510surely Japan will be freed from this plague any day now
>>279938786Guess some people don't like reverse traps.
The evilest bitch has arrived. But at least Sadanobu is cute
>>279945954The issue with the children of greats
>>279946002How quick the generations go by
Going by the first volume, I thought Yoshimune would be a major player for volumes
>>279947262The genderswap works quite well in times like these
>>279947502She doesn't get her grandmother at all
That being said she's sexy
>>279945954Was Yoshimune being sincere here or is she just using the rules as an excuse?
Because she never had an issue with breaking decorum before.
>>279946114>Still seething about it till her death bedIf this was the start of the manga I would just laugh. But now? This is par for the course. Everyone wants to be the top dog of the land.
>>279949606This is the kind of shit that would keep a man from suicide after that
>>279949660And here I thought we'd go one marriage without cucking
>>279947339She wasn't a good shogun. Even if she did get a raw deal from her mother. But man, deaths like this always get me.
>>279950700OP should dump a manga about them next
Something...Golden...
>>279947816Oh I see where this is going
>>279948142I don't think this is a smart decision. But we will see.
>>279949509All the good ones die first.
>>279951685at least he didn't beg him to put a blonde-haired blue-eyed baby in his wife
>>279949071Oh hey, someone finally had a son
>>279954679Nah, see
>>279949660, it's just that none of them live long enough to become relevant.
>>279954679>>279957916that and they're no longer the favored heirs, ironically
Just wanted to say thanks OP. This might become my new favorite manga, you've got me coming back to this website every day like it's 2010 again. Watched the anime when it aired but never got around to reading thee rest, makes me wonder what else I'm missing out on. Political intrigue stories are the best but hard to find, so it's nice when one gets attention.
I fucking hate reverse traps so much it's unreal!
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>>279962825edit attempted, hopefully worth the image space
I even tried redrawing pages from this chapter
>>279967900Ienobu rescinded that too.
>>279962898Sounds kinda gay to me man
>>279949864>>279949821Man this was sad, i teared a bit. The prince was a true lad
>>279969142It had already become tradition. No one is going to make a son the heir when he has only 1/5 chance of reaching adulthood. Well no one important anyway.
>>279962825You're missing out on Hyouge Mono quite probably
>>279973424Not that anon but I've also been enjoying these story times for the same reason, so I will check Hyouge Mono out. Thank you for the recommendation.
>>279977798It happens to tie in nicely with Oooku as well, since it covers much of the Sengoku era until the rule of the second Tokugawa shogun and also focuses on the politicking and personal drama of great families.
>>279973424I keep meaning to read this, but then I started Elusive Samurai and didn't want to read two historical Japanese series at once, then this started and I still didn't want to read two historical Japanese series at once
Maybe after this dump is over
>>279924712 (OP)>the male population has fallen to a quarter of the total female population. Women have taken on all the roles traditionally granted to men, even that of the ShogunI like where this is going.
>the most beautiful of the men are sent to serve in the Shogun's Inner ChambersWait is this reverse harem cuckshit?
>>279980387I want to call you a faggot but you're completely correct, as it happens
>>279982018>the Age of Tanumaquite a honor for the child of a mere footsoldier
>>279982176I remember that surgery scene from Shigurui. Man, that was nasty.
>>279982557>Can perform their job well>>279982586>But his way is still wrongAncient mental gymnastics!
>>279982681And the chapter was going well.
>>279982803For a 30 year old hag with knowledge in medicine she doesn't have a good survival instinct
>>279981956Outstanding how many lives the common sense and cleanliness of today saved
>>279980871I'm out then, thanks for the warning.
>>279982284Our fucking guy going strong
>>279982316Competent and reasonable characters are such a relief
>>279982432I've never seen manga characters use the word 'mam' before this manga and every time they do it's like a smack in the face
>>279983346Kek. Even Kuroki is having trouble keeping a straight face.
>>279982524Hmm...if only there was a way to give a man a small, controlled infection to develop an immunity to the disease...
>>279982586>>279982618Can the shogun exile her already
>>279982681This mere landlord doth speak too presumptuously to a lofty senior councillor, cousin of the shogun or not
>>279983646For a woman who lusts over women she knows nothing about the hearts of other women.
>>279982967Dirty filthy stinky virgin princess
With one page I want her NOW
>>279983732She's still the granddaughter of their most respected shogun. And if Tanuma knows how her mother was like then she knows better than to cause a potential conflict.
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>>279983259Your choice, but you're missing out
Cucking would happen in this society, and it does a good job of showing what happens when it does
>>279983346Redemption comes from the strangest of places
>>279983403I think a peck would've satisfied her
>>279982967>sadanobu achieving peak moeIn any other series she'd be best girl. But here the female cast is so high in quality that she has no chance. Still. Top five cutest Tokugawa include her.
>>279983680This is what reverse traps do to you
>>279983710And just like that, progress was set back another century
>>279982803This poor girl doesn't even realize that the reason she's always angry and unhappy is her own mother.
>>279949966It's not about decorum, if they don't stick to "The firstborn is the heir" the Tokugawa rule will eventually crumble under it's own weight.
>>279980387>>279980871There is a difference between "cuckshit" and "story in which some cucking occurs". This is not a manga for people who are into NTR.
>>279947754>>279983376Tanuma's outfits are top notch. Nice that the manga is actually showing why she would be critiqued for her lavish lifestyle.
>>279984467I'm a bit skeptical of that considering she had no issue breaking the "first guy to deflower the shogun gets killed" rule. Even though she gained nothing from it. Though, to be fair she did keep it a hushed affair.
I also doubt it's going to be any worse than keeping Ieshige as shogun. Remember, people were expecting Munetake to be the successor despite the rule that the elder should be the one to take the seat.
>>279985525There's a difference between changing whether or not an innocent man gets killed for no reason once a generation, and potentially allowing the succession to turn into a free-for-all once you die
Abdicating with years left to your life like she did is one way to avoid that, but people die uncertainly, and you can't trust all your successors to be as wise as you are
>>279983026did they really have this kind of primitive vaccin back then?
>>279985912apparently, look up "variolation"
this is also just a short time before jenner figured out the cowpox vaccine
>>279985842Yeah, succession crisises are one of the worst things you can have happen (they turn into civil wars very easily) so that basically anything you can do to avoid them is good. Even the wrong person ending up on the throne is better, because a bad ruler can be managed but it's impossible to manage a scramble for the throne.
>>279982967even her NECK is blushing
>>279987501It's rough because the theory behind them is completely sound
If a king decides his first son's a retard and his second son would be a wonderful ruler, it makes all the sense in the world, and if he safely abdicated and gets to see a good while of the next reign, and the birth of at least one boy, things can be called safe
But that won't happen forever
>>279983462A material better known as asbestos, though it's indeed called "stone cotton" (็ณ็ถฟ) in japanese to this day
>>279983710>>279984262well shit, my reverse trap is in peril
>>279985842Normally I would agree. But everyone, including Ieshige herself, understood that Munetake is the better choice. And the former's reign proved that.
This was the one instance Yoshimune should have went against the status quo.
>>279991773Ieshige knew to stay out of the way, letting Yoshimune and her trusted advisors run the show. And then she formally retired as soon as her heir (who also had Yoshimune's approval) was ready for the job. Yes they could have got away with going against he status quo without any resistance, but this way maintained it while keeping the government running smoothly. It was uneventful enough that we got a side story about cooking.
>>279992353Ieshige's reign didn't get much focus but from the little we got it wasn't great. However, the point is that I don't think Yoshimune was sincere when she explained to Munetake the reason why she couldn't become a shogun. Rather an attempt to shift the blame into something other than her over the choice.
This is a situation where she should have acted as a leader but instead chose to be a mother. Probably to avoid humiliating Ieshige and to calm Munetake. Ironically failing at both.
All i remember from this arc is kuroki screaming at the sky
>>279992573>don't think Yoshimune was sincereI think you are reading too much into things and missing the point. Yoshimune's main goal was a stable Japan under a stable Tokugawa rule in the long term. She was certainly willing to humiliate or upset her daughters to hinder the re-emergence of succession disputes. Sure, Munetake would have been a better ruler than Ieshige. Even if she turned out incompetent or spiteful she would be more respected and that is important. But it would set a precedent where every envious 2nd child in future generations feels like they have a claim to the title of Shogun. And think about how this fits in thematically with Hisamichi's confession. Yoshimune herself gained power because her own elder sisters were 'removed' - but did not approve of it.
>she should have acted as a leader but instead chose to be a motherYou have it backwards. Yoshimune WAS acting as a leader, and chose the option which would logically be best for the future of the realm, while ensuring that she (and later Okitsugu) could keep an eye on things in the short term. She knew that Ieshige would suffer as Shogun but told her to suck it up.
>>279993294It's one of the best scenes in the series.
>>279982999Let's not talk about the Indian method
>>279994288Thing is Yoshimune knew that precedents need to made in order to fix the land. Just like how she thought the taxation of the merchant class was the right thing to do despite how unusual it was. Even if a second child did want the seat of the shogun in the future this come second to the current predicament. Everyone wanted Munetake to be the ruler, she included.
I really think her motherly side won her over. If she wasn't she should have told Munetake that Ieshige was the better choice. Even if it was a lie it wouldn't have caused her to hold a grudge over it not idolize Yoshimune to the degree that her granddaughter is vying for the seat because of her. While Yoshimune was a good leader and her goal was to create a stable rule, she created a future where an incomptent shogun came after her and a potential threat emerged in it.
>>280000314>she should have told Munetake that Ieshige was the better choiceShe did. To "prevent succession disputes among heirs". Breaking the right of primogeniture is a temporary solution for a weak heir which creates the permanent problem of uncertain succession. A caring mother would not have pushed that responsibility onto Ieshige, who clearly did not want it. There is no reason to think that Yoshimune of all people is being insincere.
>she created a future where...Where she held on to power herself, put trusted advisors in charge, and things went back to normal after the temporary reign of an unpopular Shogun. Yoshimune could not know what fuckery her granddaughters and beyond would get up to. So she ignored the feelings of her daughters, and left the traditional succession practices were intact, so that future Shoguns were better equipped to resist attempts at seizing power.
>incompetentMore like 'incontinent' lmao
>>280006480Those are good points and I have more to say regarding the topic, but I would rather wait and see how the current shogun reign goes as well as how Sadanobu's plot develop. That will determine whether Yoshimune did the right thing or not for me.
>>279994288>>280006480This. It's also worth noting that Yoshimune was a rigorous Neo-Confucian ruler, she values virtue more than wits, and she had judged that her second daughter was lacking in that regard, no matter how clever she was. It's just fine for a ruler to have smart and skilled advisors, all the ruler needs is knowledge of the classics (because it's supposed to instill the right virtues.) Yoshimune strongly implied that Munetake's superficial grace or intellectual proficiency was meaningless.
Of course Ieshige was not perfectly virtuous either, she was weak-willed and insecure, pettily cruel and dissolute. But she exemplified filial piety and humility, she loved her honored mother and did not despise her family. If her mother had decided one of her sisters would be the heir instead, she would have only blamed herself for failing to live up to expectations and quietly died of grief. Compare that to her sister, who ended up earning her mother's disdain for her ugly envy and slander, and raised her daughter with the same mentality, causing strife and discord in the family. (Granted, one could say Yoshimune should have cynically picked Munetake to avoid causing resentment...)
The principle that the eldest son would become the successor was established by the first shogun, Ieyasu. So Yoshimune followed it. The author omitted it, but in real history, a similar battle for succession occurred when the third shogun was chosen. Many vassals thought that Tadanaga, the second son, would be a better choice than Iemitsu, the eldest, because Tadanaga was healthy, clever, and handsome, while Iemitsu was sickly, stuttered, and not so good-looking. Even their parents preferred Tadanaga. At that time, the retired first shogun, Ieyasu, strongly urged respect for the eldest succession rule, so Iemitsu was confirmed as the successor. Tadanaga, who had been pampered throughout his childhood, continued to behave arrogantly even after coming of age. In the end, he was ordered to commit seppuku and died, despite being the shogun's brother.
It is not so easy to evaluate a person's character.
>>280008801>The author omitted itIt was mentioned in passing, in fact.
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>>280012151>everyone smiling in the coverFEUDAL JAPAN NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>280012363>>280012393holy shit, how did we go so far without one of these?
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>>280012420from here onwards, theres one each new volume with the proper age progressions of the characters lol
>>280012151What the fuck
Multiple people
This feels like a final volume cover and that has me nervous
>>280012327https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAmn4eMusZk&list
>>280012539natto is fucking awful, what a psyop
>>280012363>>280012393Incredibly useful
I had honestly missed that Yoshimune wasn't a descendent of Iemitsu somewhere down the line, shame the lineage broke
>>280012648that's a death flag if I've ever seen one.
>>280012916ah yes, I remember reading about him too.
>>280012151I love how this cute and cheerful cover instantly filled every anon with dread.
>>280012916If only Arikoto were here...
>>280012954Look man
In a miserable world the smiling are either vulnerable or dead
>>280012916I had forgotten that before emmnnosuke, there was motherfucking arikoto
>>280012954don't you know it's against the shogun's peace to be happy?
>>280012986Why does he get so mad everytime he sees her
Does he like her or something
>>280013006Actually the motherfucker was Sakyo
>>280013082In his own way, Yoshizo managed to win pretty hard too
>>280013050He looks so much happier in his old age.
>>280013155A lifetime in the Ooku does things to a man
>>280013155>bagged a hot twink with a tight assah, no wonder he's so jovial now.
>>280013248...t'would be pitiable, for sure
>>280013250It's good to know the women of Edo are still fingering themselves thinking about our guy
>>280013213don't try to get him laid, that will only bring in problems
>>280013338the inner chambers are still full of assholes, I see
>>280013338>and yet was unable to save poor Kusaaka, when he did fall ill with it!How easily things are spun
>>280013400looks like this generation is duller for once
>>280013271Ihei, I thought you didn't like being helpful?
>>280013532death flags for everybody
>>280013625>ugly bastard gangrape I was expecting misery. I should've expected this
>>280013694when the nostalgic flashback starts during a chase scene you know the character is doomed
>>280013664>uglyworse
>>280012151Giving me Paranoia Agent OP vibe.
>>280013835Only so much time in the world
Good for her
>>280013795she looks really cute in that middle panel
>>280013975I assume we're to read this as a broken hymen
Poor girl
>>280013975I wonder if she had to pay 100 ryo for that. Probably only a fraction.
>>280012847These slice of life snippets feels like the build-up to something ominous.
>>280012916Arikoto, now that was a man.
He could fix all problems if he was here.
>>280014009Even if she preferred women, with how brazen and promiscuous she was I doubt she has kept her hymen all this time.
I interpreted it more as her being "broken" by this experience, although vaginal lesions wouldn't be surprising.
>>280013037>Want to enjoy the smell of flowers>She brings a fishI would be pissed as well.
>>280013366I see that the inner chambers misses the days of Tsunoyoshi.
>>280014231Remember Mizuno's boyfriend back in volume 1?
Come to think of it, our guy's probably dead by now
FUCK YEAH! THIS IS WHAT I'M HERE FOR!!!
Tragedy, despair, bad endings, evil deeds. That was what I've been waiting for. Enough with the sappy happiness, it's FEUDAL JAPAN time!
>>280014629Yes, this arc has been fairly light-hearted but that's ending right about now.
And next arc is even darker.
just to be clear, are we still in the 1700s?
>>280012608They had schools? When is this?
>>280013213>Gennai blushedShe thought about it. Being his Ikushima.
>>280014955https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terakoya
>>280014092>>280014094Modern DNA transcription. Shorthand for the vaccine.
>>280013563geez the sense everything is about to fall into hell is so strong
>>279925450dutch is not a serious language
>>280013596>The eel selleers in the "put it on rice" counry never once tried putting eel on rice. Alright now that is pushing it.
Good chapter though. I was going to post last thread about how I'd been loving the chapter start/end atr pages, especially the ones with thee ornately decorated ceiling images. And this time we get some aesthetic whiplash with serous foreshadowing. Very nice.
>>280014092>>280014094 The letters G, A, C, & T are used for DNA components. Surprised that isn't common knowledge.
>>280017409I-I know what it was, just didn't understand at first what it meant in relation to the manga...
>>280017409And yet, it's actually assigning an earlier date to the "tradition" than the history on Wikipedia:
>Una-don was the first type of donburi rice dish, invented in the late Edo period, during the Bunka era (1804โ1818)[5] by a man named Imasuke ลkubo [ja][5] of Sakai-machi (in present-day Nihonbashi Ningyลchล, Chลซล, Tokyo), and became a hit in the neighborhood, where the Nakamura-za and Ichimura-za once stood.>The first eatery to sell it as a business is claimed to be ลnoya (ๅคง้ๅฑ),[6] in Fukiyachล (่บๅฑ็บ) (adjacent to Sakai-chล) at some indeterminate time, but presumably before the theaters burnt down in 1841 and moved off. After the great famine of 1844, it started selling the unadon for one oblong Tenpล-sen coin, and became a hit.[6] Note that it calls it the first donburi dish to go popular, that is, the first "put it on rice" dish.
>>280017864>>280017409Fucking japs, have to "invent" putting rice on things even when rice is 90% of the diet.
>muh traditionfucking retards
>>280014025Truly a woman, couldn't even use those damn swords for any good.
>>280018634The thugs explicitly said they're bamboo swords.
>>280013625>>280013658Syphilis?
>>280017864I simply don't believe that. Putting meats, fish, or other rich ingredients onto your staple carb source is a universal human experience. Like how the 4th Earl of Sandwich was not the first guy to put beef between bread.My assumption is that by 'invented' what they mean is 'canonized as a dish with its own name and acceptable for the tradition-obsessed upper crust to eat'.
>>280012363tsunayoshi did nothing wrong btw
>>280018946She cucked an entire family to death and still didn't have an heir live to adulthood, that's pretty wrong
>>280018946the dog laws and handling of the 47 ronin affair were pretty retarded, if you care that little about running the country just step down.
>>280018826>spoiler>Yeah.>>280018946This
>>280019051 alone makes her bad. Her not growing up and remaining her dad's puppet/ going along with his delusions until her 50s makes her terrible.
>>280018946The inner chambers number one shogun. Never a slow day with her!
>>280018481the real breakthrough came with new techniques in household fires. rice could now be heated enough to cook whatever is on top of it!
>>280018826Probably, yeah. Food history is almost all pop history and legends anyway. But the author is just putting her spin on the commonly-known history of the dish.
>>280019389There's plenty of reliable food history, since people have been writing down recipes for as long as writing has existed, it's just the stories that restaurants make up about the origin of dishes that are almost always bullshit because most recipes are just something somebody tried one day and it was good, there's almost never an actually interesting and thus marketable story behind it.
>>280019289I want her to blow me, I'll give her that much
>>280019494That'd probably be much better than anything she could do with her dried up, cavernous, accursed, infertile and assuredly stinky pussy
>>280019799>Doubting THE shogun's experienceThe inner chamber remembers her for a reason.
>>280019799tsunayoshi: but first, you shall service me *spreads legs*
concubine: but, uh...
>guy behind the curtain: YOU DARE DEFY THE WILL OF THE SHOGUN!?
>>280019988>tsunayoshi: but first, you shall service me *spreads legs*[muffled] as you wish, my lord
