Has anything surpassed it?

Monster

>>279943159 (OP)
almost anything after that god awful ending. It was so clear that Near had the authors dick in his mouth in that whole scene. The game was rigged from the start for the god of the new world.

>>279943614
Light literally got saved by Shinigami Rem
Light wasn't that strong to begin with

>>279943933
>Light literally got saved by Shinigami Rem
If this is about the killing of L, i wouldnt say she saved him. Rem didnt do it to save light, she did it to save Misa. Light manipulated her into a position where she had to kill L.
>Light wasn't that strong to begin with
Mentally? Only behind L. Physically? Probably stronger than near. My issue with the ending is that it just seemed unreasonable

>>279944795
>she did it to save Misa
who cares, the result is the same
>Light manipulated her
to save himself from getting caught

>>279943614
that double twist felt like jin-roh, the first was great but the second ruined it

>>279945013
>who cares, the result is the same
The point isnt the result, its what caused it. Lights actions resulted in himself getting saved rather than rems good will.
>to save himself from getting caught
Excellent observation retard. Yes, Light does not want to get caught.

>>279943159 (OP)
Yeah, a lot. It's pretty easy to do, as long as the main character survives it's automatically a better story.

>>279943159 (OP)
>surpass
That's not how art works.

>>279946488
why did Light manipulate Rem?
obviously it wasn't to save Misa, it's to save himself from L

>>279943159 (OP)
yes the 2015 series

The whole thing with death note owners losing their memory when not being owners is so contrived to fit into the story it really hurts the narrative.

>>279947372
not as bad as the rule:
>Shinigami can't help humans
this rule is for pure plot

>>279947442
You're talking about a shinigami dying if they purposefully extend a human's life? Because I liked how Ryuk chose whether or not to help Light, and Rem was going to help him kill L, at least before Misa got caught and put in L's favorite gimp outfit.

Code Geass

>>279943196
Lmfao

>>279948471
if Ryuk chooses to save Light by killing all Light's enemies using his Shinigami eyes then there would be no plot
that's why that rule existed in the first place

cg surpassed dn

>>279943159 (OP)
The main problem is that Death Note collapses in on itself and only gets worse and worse. It would've worked better if it was cut short.

Stuff like Code Geass, One Outs, Akagi, Kaiji, Monster, Pluto, Parasyte, etc. are all more consistently better.
Death Note relies almost entirely on the great start.

>>279943159 (OP)
>better mind games
>better arcs
>better, more cunning protag
>better antagonist
>better plan
>better conclusion
>more emotional
>higher stakes
yeah, I'd say so.

>>279954178
braincrack

>>279954408
you need to shitpost a lot more to force your meme

>>279943159 (OP)
It's not a very good mindgame manga.

>>279943614
>posts anime
>bitches about the ending even though the rest wasn't any better
As always

>>279944795
>If this is about the killing of L, i wouldnt say she saved him. Rem didnt do it to save light, she did it to save Misa. Light manipulated her into a position where she had to kill L.
Not really.

Light had the author mindrape everyone into bumbling retards. Realistically speaking Misa would have never been in a position to kill again, Misa would have seen what killing again would mean (not after lobotomy I guess) and L would have had tons of contingency plans after showing his face to the actual proven 2nd Kira who he let go for some stupid reason.

Death Note has bad writing

>>279954800
Any story where the main protagonist dies has bad writing.

>>279955173
No

>>279943196
/a/ is not yet ready for this trvke

>>279955210
Yes. I have never in my life encoutered a single story where the main character dies that has been enjoyable. Even if I enjoyed it before that moment, it's impossible to enjoy after that moment. The protagonist dying ruins a story that otherwise could have been enjoyable, ergo, killing the protagonist is bad writing.

>>279956902
I just posted one, although it happens at the very end so maybe it's not the same

>>279956956
I haven't read that story so I can't say for certain, but any story where the main character or some other significant character I've liked has died has been absolutely terrible. And I'm not talking about passing away of old age surrounded by all your loved ones, I'm talking about sudden death, sacrifice or some other kind of bitter garbage that drowns any sweetness that could otherwise be had.

>>279957619
gurren lagann

>>279943159 (OP)
There've been many objectively better anime for decades prior to Madhouse adapting Death Note, but there are few that beat it at its own games. To mind come LoGH, Monster, and Kaiji.

>>279958128
A prime example of a story that I absolutely hated. What's next, Gunslinger Girl?