Does it deserve the praise that it gets?

>>279954044 (OP)
Yes.
Never ruin your life over a vagina. Don't be like Spike.

Yes.

>>279954044 (OP)
Yeah.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLwjDigdM6k

>>279954044 (OP)
No, years of hard work were spent on le quirky an ironic 90s space adventure with jazz for snobs and normies who like nice graphics.
Stink bomb was at least a short film.

>>279954534
>graphics
it's not a video game.

>>279954639
No way

>>279954534
>ironic

>>279954044 (OP)
Its very good. One of the best. But i do think it gets slightly ober glazed because of the dramatic ending.

Personally i prefer Samurai Champloo but only by a thin margin.

>>279954044 (OP)
It made me cry (positive).

Yes.

>>279954044 (OP)
I always love Bebop because it made me realize anime was more than shounenshit as a kid and got me into anime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5UJLhyeJts

>>279954044 (OP)
Yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPbBhvv6GI8

>>279954044 (OP)
Be sure to watch it in Japanese.

>>279954044 (OP)
No? Is a mostly meh show with a few good episodes and a few dogshit episodes.

>>279954044 (OP)
Soundtrack is phenomenal.
Yes.

>>279956027
This. It has higher highs than almost any other show, but there are clearly filler episodes. You could've easily cut it to 13 episodes and had a perfect show, though.

I know we are supposed to be contrarians here but Bebop is pretty good

>>279954907
champloo sucked ass

>>279954044 (OP)
It along with Chumploo have that fire soundtrack and animation but NO substance to be found. Just cliche episode plots and bandit with a heart of gold shenanigans

>>279954044 (OP)
Yes. It's really that good, if not even better.

>>279954044 (OP)
It's pretty overrated and while I like it overall I also wouldn't call myself a huge fan. But I do think it's good, has a lot of iconic elements, and definitely has its own identity and succeeds at what it's trying to do.

So like, it does deserve praise, but maybe not the level of praise it currently gets where it's treated as flawless and the best piece of media of all time.

>>279954044 (OP)
I thought both Outlaw Star and Trigun were the superior 1998 sci-fi westerns

>>279954044 (OP)
me on the right

>>279958599

>>279954044 (OP)
Watanabe kinda dragged his own name trough the mud with all the shitty shows he made in later years

>>279954534
>normies

>>279959363
Lazarus is good.

>>279956027
The only one that was kinda bad was Mushroom Samba, but it was still funny and gave Ed some screentime. Actually nevermind, I like that one too.

>>279954098
Spike survived as long as he did because of that "vagina". It was the best thing that ever happened to him and the only thing that ever gave his life meaning.

>>279954044 (OP)
Yes, absolutely. The only mistake the public makes is overlooking similarly great anime.

>>279954044 (OP)
In terms of animation, scene compsition and music, yes. In terms of writing...it's a mixed bag. Half the episodes are amazing. The other half are forgettable or bad. And some of the worst offenders are the 5 Spike focused episodes, because of how his entire character and the shows tone changes the minute Julia is mentioned.

The best part is the movie. And it's still one of my favorite movies. But it also accentuates the Spike/Julia problem. Since the main focus of the movie is Spike trying to save someone from going down the path he did by convincing the girl to not fall for a troubled man. But that just makes the TV shows ending worse...when he does that very thing.

No. Cowboy Bebop is all style, no substance.

>>279963604
You didn't get it,

>>279963549
The Spike and Julia episodes are what make this series a masterpiece. Otherwise, it would just be a pretty good SoL space western.

>>279964214
>Otherwise, it would just be a pretty good SoL space western.
No, it would be a bounty hunter type show in space. The Spike episodes try to make it have a deep/noir plot. But in my opinion it becomes forced melodrama trying to be a Noir. Spike and everyone else has to die because that makes it Noir! Except not...but that's what they think.

Visually and tonally with the music, the Spike episodes are great. But plot and character wise, they're terrible.

>spike (spiegel)

Anything with Julia on it is literally a solid 1/10. This show would have been good if it ended on episode 24 but then we got those absolute garbage last 2 episodes.

>>279964397
>he's American because he wears pants and his voice actor is American!
>sits on the floor eating ramen and quoting Bhudda
>original voice actor is Japanese
>character is modeled off of Lupin
>Eastern European name and design
>comes from Mars
Trying to talk about anime in the 90s and 2000s was legitimately painful.

>>279964409
>This show would have been good if it ended on episode 24
I just consider the movie to be the ending and skip episodes 25 and 26. Spike realized through dealing with Vincent and his girl he was going down the wrong path and gave up on Julia. Good end, Space Cowboy.

>>279964296
The Spike episodes were the truest to Spike's character. And they actually meant something. Julia wasn't a "troubled person". She was loyal to Spike unto death and died because she wouldn't betray him. She sacrificed everything for him, and in the end he chose to follow her in death. A choice he made for his own sake. It was he that held onto what was most precious to him rather than betraying his truth and continue to subsist in a half-life that was worse than death.

>>279964409
>Anything with Julia on it is literally a solid 11/10.
ftfy

my opinion on the show is that there isn't nearly enough porn of ed as there should be

>>279964544
Your viewing comprehension is actual shit.

>>279964550
Spike is led to believe that Julia cucked him for his best friend. He learns near the end that isn't the case. But he still goes chasing after her, despite thinking she chose Vicious over him. This means he's acting like a cucked simp.

Then after he learns that she didn't betray him, she STANDS UP IN THE MIDDLE OF A GUNFIGHT LIKE A FUCKING IDIOT. Because the story needs her to die to be "noir." And then Spike goes on a suicidal revenge rampage and dies. This is not sad. It's just fucking stupid writing. And makes all the previous Spike episodes pointless.

>>279964409
They should totally remove the most iconic and highly rated episodes. That would definitely improve the series.

>>279964640
>y-you just didn't understand it
Your argument would work, except the language of cinema is the main reason the ending sucks. Read >>279964687

Vincent dying actually works. Julia just stands up in the middle of a gunfight because the story needs her to die to reach the intended sad ending. And it's just stupid.

>>279964687
>Spike is led to believe that Julia cucked him for his best friend. He learns near the end that isn't the case. But he still goes chasing after her, despite thinking she chose Vicious over him. This means he's acting like a cucked simp.
That is not what happened. Julia was with Vicious BEFORE she met Spike. He had no idea why she disappeared. You don't even have a solid grasp of the plot.

>>279964687
>Then after he learns that she didn't betray him, she STANDS UP IN THE MIDDLE OF A GUNFIGHT LIKE A FUCKING IDIOT. Because the story needs her to die to be "noir." And then Spike goes on a suicidal revenge rampage and dies. This is not sad. It's just fucking stupid writing. And makes all the previous Spike episodes pointless.
Don't lie. The coast seemed to be clear and Julia was desperate to get to Spike so she could help him. Neither Julia nor Spike saw that shooter until it was too late.

ЗА БИБОПА ПОРВУ ЖОПУ!

>>279964735
You didn't understand the basic plot, so clearly you didn't understand the deeper implications of the narrative.

>>279964735
The language of cinema is the main reason the ending is brilliant and the post you cited is idiotic and factually wrong.

>>279964718
24 is much more iconic, only the worst kind of pseuds care about carry muh weight. The show is so much better when you ignore any episode with Julia or Vicious on it really.

>>279965108
Only simpletons that were too stupid to follow a plot that is outlined nonlinearly dislike The Real Folk Blues.

>>279964875
хорошо

>>279964847
The shooting had stopped, but there was no real indication everything was clear. Spike was looking around to see if the coast was clear when she stands up. Then a sniper gets her.

But even if you want to give a pass to this, the dumbest scene in the whole series is the exchange between Vicious and Spike. When both swap weapons. Vicious has a gun and Spike has a sword, which he has no skill with. Vicious could just shoot him. Instead, they throw their weapons back to each other and fatally would each other at the same time. For "symbolism." This is suppose to make Spike's death more impactful. Instead, it just makes it silly.

But of course people will still defend this as "deep." Because you saw it on Toonami at age 12.

>>279965492
You didn't understand the scene between Spike and Vicious either. The reason Vicious returns Spike's gun is because they enter into a suicide pack. Julia is dead. Neither has a reason to live and want to be put out of their misery. When they agree to "end it all". They are agreeing to put the other down.

>>279965677
suicide pact*

>>279965677
>it's deep symbolism, trust me!
There's so much wrong with this interpretation its stupid. 1) If they both want to die at the same time, they wouldn't be jumping around for three minutes avoiding each others attacks. And this would also mean they were trying to die together in the earlier confrontations. Which Vicious clearly isn't. He's likely saying they're going to "end it" meaning their rivalry/fight. 2) Vicious had long since gotten over Julia as a lover and wasn't simping for her. He wanted to kill Spike and her for betrayal. First to the Syndicate, but later, as he says himself, betrayal to him. He's an egomaniac. He may want to die because he's tired of his life and a form of "escape." But it's not tied to Julia. You'd have to ignore all the "language of cinema" in earlier episodes showing Vicious uses Spike and Julia. He doesn't care for them. Especially not to lose his life over them.

>>279965945
They didn't just want to die. They wanted to destroy each other then die. What they agreed upon was mutually assured destruction. And everything is tied to Julia. The song that plays on the way to the syndicate is about joining Julia in the afterlife. Spike specifically brings up Julia's death right before they enter the suicide pact. Spike immediately sees Julia after he kills Vicious.

>>279965945
>He may want to die because he's tired of his life and a form of "escape." But it's not tied to Julia.
He goes to see if he's really alive. He sees Julia. The person that made him want to be alive.

>>279966138
>>279966197
>post talking about vicious' motives
>b-but Spike!
Can't tell if people are deflecting or just can't read.

>>279966236
Vicious did want to kill Spike for seducing Julia. That didn't change the fact that Spike and Julia were the only people that Vicious ever truly loved. Vicious had nothing left to live for. That is why he was moved by Spike's words. The reminder that Julia was dead is what motivated him to return Spike's gun.

>>279954907
Based, Champloo wins out for me, too. As much as I love anime, they're just both really stand-out shows in an otherwise derivative medium.

>>279966312
He said all that? Oh wait, he didn't. You got it from the "symbolism" and the "language of cinema."

>>279954044 (OP)
No, it deserves more.

>>279966395
Your inability to follow a narrative is hilarious.

>>279966430
>you just don't understand it
I refer back to my post at >>279965945 which you didn't refute. You just deflected to talking about Spike's motives and saying "it's clear what the symbolism means because that's what I think it means." If you want to just say it's open-ended symbolism left up to interpretation, that's fine. But you're acting like it's a factual proven thing. Without proving it.

>>279966556
What on earth are you babbling about? Set the symbolism aside. You don't need it. Vicious returns Spike's gun after he is reminded of Julia's death. In that moment her death becomes real to him. This impacts him enough to return Spike's weapon so that they can end each other.

>>279954044 (OP)
>episodic with no overarching story
yawn

>>279966669
>Vicious returns Spike's gun after he is reminded of Julia's death. In that moment her death becomes real to him.
This sounds like your interpretation of what's going on. But it's not stated in the dialogue or shown in the "language of cinema." In dialogue, they just say "let's end this" which is so generic it's a staple of fight scenes. What's next, you're going to say Neo and Agent Smith where fighting over Trinity because Smith said "let's end this" during the final fight scene in Matrix 1? Of course not. You know the context doesn't hint at Agent Smith caring about Trinity at all. He tries to kill her. And oh yeah...Vicious also tries to kill Julia. Shit.

But you're now trying to say he just magically woke up to being sad over Julia in that one moment. If so, then it goes against the previous Spike/Vicious focused episodes.

Beyond this, if he wanted to "end it" he could just shoot Spike, who's only got a sword and can't use it. I get why you think it's some symbolic thing where they're going to kill each other, because that's what they do. But you're looking at it after the fact. And extrapolating what you think the context is. It's also possible they just wanted to have some symbolic "we used to be buddies so let's throw our weapons back and end it like men." With no connection to Julia at all. It's also possible the scene director just thought it would look cool and has nothing to do with Julia or their friendship. We don't know because it's not shown.

>>279966685
Never did watch it then, did ya faggot?

>>279967096
>This sounds like your interpretation of what's going on.
It's what happened. You were just too stupid to pick up on it.

>>279967096
You need everything explained to you, don't you?

>>279967096
>With no connection to Julia at all.
Yeah. That's why she is referenced and brought up continuously. Including immediately before Vicious returns Spike's gun, something he gave no indication he was going to do before Spike brought up Julia's death.

>>279967096
You are the dumbest nigger monkey gorilla retard. Delete this and kill yourself, faggot.

>>279967213
You already tried explaining it and I provided multiple counter possibilities to what this scene can mean. You posting images again, without any counter argument or proof of what it means, doesn't prove anything.
>>279967329
>demanding I delete it
If you're so sure I'm wrong, you can just ignore the post. But apparently it affected you so much you're literally seething with anger and need to deleted. Like it needs to be censored before others hear it...

>sexo

>>279967565
You provided nothing but cope on why you aren't wrong, when obviously you are. The scene lays out what happened clearly enough and anyone with average intelligence should be able to pick up on it. There would be no reason for Spike to bring up Julia's death when he does unless it was relevant and impactful to the moment. It's the catalyst that moves the scene to its ultimate conclusion. Your arguments are so inept and moronic you are annoying other anons.

Cowboy Bebop used to be the king in the 00s, when a lot of posters grew up with Toonami.
so it was definitely overrated but I suspect it's looped around and the opposite is true.
still gotta be a great babby's first anime for teenagers instead of whatever crap they watch now.

>>279967565
Not seething with anger, just wanted to call you a faggot. Your post is that of someone who has never seen it, and that's why I think you need to kill yourself.

>>279966669
Why is Spike telling Vicious that Julia is dead suppose to be some impactful moment for him? Vicious was trying to kill her. Who do you think sent all those men who just shot her? Is he suddenly suppose to be remorseful because she's dead when he's been trying to kill her for years?

>>279967784
Despite how popularity usually flips things around to being hated, it's actually gotten away from this. Most people still think it's a classic. Even those who didn't watch it on Adult Swim/Toonami. I still like it despite seeing it in 1999 in fansubs. The Japanese voices are way better and the dub completely ruins Spike's juxtaposition in personality, having him sound monotone and dry all the time even in the silly scenes.

>>279967880
Again, he killed one of the only people he ever loved and has nothing else to live for. He would rather see her dead than with Spike, and yet her death still impacts him. It's not remorse that grips him. It's the acknowledgment that he already got his revenge, and that now death is all that is left. Nothing else will ever give him the joy he felt when Julia was his lover and Spike was his best friend. So he accepts Spike's terms seeing no reason to prolong things.

>>279968014
Sorry to say but the other anons point seems kind of true. You seem to be pitting your argument on a lot of assumptions. When the ending Cowboy Bebop was going for was more of a vague, open to interpretation noir thing like Blade Runner.

>>279968069
It might seem that way to people that don't have enough brain power to put two and two together. Also, the ending isn't even vague. You're a complete idiot if you actually believe that.

>>279968069
You have a sub 70 IQ. You will never understand.

Vicious had nothing to live for aside from revenge. Once that was gone...

>>279968218
Which sounds more plausible than it had to do with Julia's Death. Which he had just done himself. His "let's end this" is directed at Spike.

While trying to sound super smart and add 10 layers to it, the other anon stupidly contradicted himself. And now has to hide it by saying the others are low IQ and just "don't understand it." The irony.

>>279968369
Both are true. Vicious had his revenge. There was nothing left for him. He also killed a woman he had loved and had enjoyed greatly. If her death wasn't relevant to Vicious then Spike wouldn't have brought it up when he did, and his words wouldn't have just hung there for several seconds. That alone should have clued you in that what Spike was saying was relevant to what was occurring in the scene.

>>279968472
>He also killed a woman he had loved and had enjoyed greatly.
All of the "language of cinema" in the flashback scenes is that he didn't really love her. He used her. But you don't even need to look at all his smug expressions and the dominating poses. He flat out says he was using her in the dialogue. And says he will kill her and Spike. This is not something you do when you love a woman. Spike ran off with her and tried to save her because he actually did love her. Vicious was going to kill them both.

It's hilarious you think he suddenly cared right at the end. Him wanting to die after his revenge was done makes sense. But not that he cared about Julia. He didn't care about her even in the past.

>>279968472
>If her death wasn't relevant to Vicious then Spike wouldn't have brought it up when he did,
If her death was relevant, than he would have been a mess before the fight began. Because he's the one who put out the hit on her and his men killed her. It's stupid for you to think Spike informed him of her death.
>and his words wouldn't have just hung there for several seconds.
Funny how a pregnant pause suddenly validates your argument. But if you're going to extrapolate a ton of context out of something not being said, then anyone can about any scene. There's scenes in earlier episodes with nothing being said and just visual symbolism that can be argued to say Vicious doesn't love Julia.

>>279968575
No. Vicious was a psychopath. Of course he abused and used Julia. He acted like he owned her. He also had an attachment to her. He is triggered by the mention of her name. Not so dissimilarly from how Spike is affected by her name.

Can something be 10/10 awesome and still overreccomended?
Can something be an objectively good series even amongst connoisseurs while also being one of those series a normie or entry-level anime fan hypes up too hard?
Can something be glazed constantly because of nostalgic bias while also flat-out deserving heaps and heaps of praise?
Can something be overrated purely by merit of just how MUCH people hype it up, and not because any element of it fell short of pure kino?
Cowboy Bebop is overrated and normies won't shut up about it. It's also INSANELY good.

>>279968650
Spike knew Vicious better than you. He knew that hearing of Julia's death would affect him. Also...

>>279954044 (OP)
anyone who says no has been leaving stuff in the fridge too long.

>>279968650
Vicious was still using Julia’s name as a code word three years after she dumped him. Spike even calls him out on it.

>>279954044 (OP)
yeah but most people ignore the specific praise it gets and just assume that because its highly praised it ought to tick all their boxes

>>279964296
thats how life is white nigger. Most of its filler, sometimes you get to chase your plot.

>>279968740
you get it but you're also a fag for saying kino

>>279968650
>Funny how a pregnant pause suddenly validates your argument.
A pregnant pause does demand that the dialogue be given emphasis. They only do that when what is being said is important.

>>279968650
>just visual symbolism that can be argued to say Vicious doesn't love Julia.
Only if you ignore important scenes, the way Spike speaks about Julia to Vicious, and misread what is being shown.

>>279967096
>Vicious also tries to kill Julia. Shit.
You have a poor understanding of psychopathy. psychopaths kill people they love all the time. They can be affected by the murders they've committed. They may even miss the person they killed. However, they aren't really remorseful. They are regretful that they no longer have access to a person they enjoyed. Furthermore, this in no way implies that Vicious loved Julia the way that Spike did. He did not. But he had a romantic attachment to her that could be considered a sort of love in some sick sense.

>>279954044 (OP)
Brown little girl feet... erotic...

>>279968745
And you apparently know Vicious and Spike better than they know themselves.
>>279968720
>his expression changed from a smug smile to a look of slight distain
>he must have love!
...or it could be disgust. Or resentment. Or he's annoyed that Julia figured out his plan so quickly. Or that Julia figured it out instead of Spike, since the previous dialogue is him smugly thinking he had strung Spike along.

But of course, the context can only be one thing. The one thing your 200 IQ mind came up with.
>>279968811
And in other stories, people will use a code name of someone they hate, as a reminder they want to kill them. Or a character who betrayed them. In yet other stories, someone will keep a memento or name of someone who they once loved, then that love turns to bitter anger and resentment over time.

It's almost like some of the events in Cowboy Bebop are kept kind of open to interpretation...
>>279968949
>Only if you ignore important scenes
Kind of like you're ignoring the many examples I've provided of those earlier scenes. But when it doesn't work with your argument, you just don't respond to them. And deflect back to your previous points.

I can get myself to finish it. The individual episodes are not interesting enough to keep me hooked and I end up dropping it every time I try watching it again. Probably doesn't deserve the praise for that alone.

>>279954098
Because of Julia, Spike left behind the kind of life behind, you retard.

>>279954044 (OP)
It's pretty good but Space Dandy is the superior Watanabe anime desu

>>279968740
>Can something be 10/10 awesome and still overreccomended?
Yes. And this isn't about being contrarian. It's pointing out that something can be amazing. But if it's hyped up too much and pushed on people too hard, they'll start to resent it. This is part of the cycle and it sucks. And why when people ask me for recommendations, I try to not hype it up with emotion. Just give them an honest, impartial summary. Then they watch it and have a much better reaction, because it came from their own excitement. Not guarded skepticism that something may not be as good as it was hyped up to be.

We all know Jet is the best character right?

>>279969425
Yeah, no contest there.

>>279969077
>And you apparently know Vicious and Spike better than they know themselves.
Not what I said. Spike knows Vicious. As an audience, we can gain information from how Spike chooses to interact with Vicious. If Spike treats Vicious like he believes Vicious will be moved by Julia's death, that should tell us something about Vicious.

>...or it could be disgust. Or resentment. Or he's annoyed that Julia figured out his plan so quickly. Or that Julia figured it out instead of Spike, since the previous dialogue is him smugly thinking he had strung Spike along.
Spike wasn't even involved in this discussion. Vicious doesn't care that *Gren* figured it out. But he was shaken that Julia specifically figured it out. Now she has even more evidence that he is a monstrous dipshit. His smile drops from his face rather dramatically the second he hears her name. And as was mentioned before, he was also staring glumly at the music box that played the song Julia. There would be no reason for him to do that if he wasn’t forlornly thinking of her.

>And in other stories, people will use a code name of someone they hate, as a reminder they want to kill them. Or a character who betrayed them. In yet other stories, someone will keep a memento or name of someone who they once loved, then that love turns to bitter anger and resentment over time.
The love did turn bitter. There was great resentment. But the attachment remained. The way Spike got jealous of Vicious using Julia's name also gives us insight into how to view Vicious.
>Kind of like you're ignoring the many examples
I didn't ignore anything. I pointed out that your interpretation of those scenes was misguided and incomplete.

>>279958878
>anime used to look like this
kill me, pete.

The two Jupiter Jazz episodes were pure kino

Spike didn't die. Btw

>>279954044 (OP)
i like it. i think you should check it out.

Spike totally died. Btw

>>279969498
>But he was shaken that Julia specifically figured it out.
1) He doesn't look shaken.
2) The many examples I provided are what could have made his expression change. Especially given the dialogue up to that point, he's acting like the Joker (another Psychotic) who thinks he's stringing Batman along perfectly with his plan. Only for Batman to go "nah, actually Harley figured it out." Which would cause him to get annoyed. Not that Harley specifically told Batman. But that his plan specifically didn't go exactly as he planned. Is this for sure what the creators intended? No. But it sounds far more plausible than your explination that Vicious has repressed feelings for Julia. Since there's many other visual cues and dialogue scenes that point to him having a rivalry and fixation on Spike.

>>279954044 (OP)
like most Watanabe stuff it's all style and very little substance, but you do have to admire the style of it.
solid 8/10 from me.

>>279969672
>1) He doesn't look shaken.
Yes he does. His expression completely changes. He is triggered by her name.

>2)Vicious has repressed feelings for Julia. Since there's many other visual cues and dialogue scenes that point to him having a rivalry and fixation on Spike.
Vicious had romantic feelings for Julia, and that attachment/obsession remained on some level. He is also fixated on his rivalry with Spike. The fact Spike took away a woman he had an attachment to and that she preferred Spike over him only hurt all the more.

>>279967914
cause ppl dont rewatch older anime

i still just want to fuck vicious

>>279969760
>Yes he does. His expression completely changes.
He goes from a smug smile to a slight annoyance/inquisitive glare. This isn't some huge visual telegraph.
>He is triggered by her name.
You have no way to know it's specifically her name. I've already provided many possible other things that could have triggered his change in expression. The more logical one being him confused or annoyed that his plan went differently than he expected, since that lines up with the dialogue leading up to this moment. Because, as you already admitted, he's a controlling psychopath.

>You have no way to know it's specifically her name.
Watch the scene in Japanese. The second her name is uttered his face and mood change noticeably. It's a parallel to how Spike he reacts to hearing her name. Although, obviously Vicious's reaction is no where near Spike's level, yet the scene lets the viewer know that the name Julia has power over both men.

>Because, as you already admitted, he's a controlling psychopath.
This is true. But there are moments where he loses control and these moments are very revealing.

>>279969871
>This is true. But there are moments where he loses control and these moments are very revealing.
Which was my point. It makes more sense that his expression changed because of that then the mention of Julia. It could also be both at the same time. It could be Julia alone. My point is, you're trying to claim it can only be the exact thing you discerned from the scene. It would actually be more impressive for the show and the writer if it had more layers. And it was about both Julia figuring it out and his plan not going how he thought.

But all that dissection of this specific scene aside, him breaking down in the last episode because Julia was mentioned is just dumb. After he literally just called a hit out on her and expected she was dead. His "let's end this" is directed at Spike and their rivalry.

Now I feel like rewatching it while drinking and listening to the Japanese voices for the first time ever

>>279969080
You're not supposed to be "hooked", you're supposed to watch 1 a day, or even just 1 a week like it originally aired and let it sit. Not everything is made to be binged.

>>279969080
The show (any show) isn't for everyone. There's always going to be some show that it seems everyone praises but you can't get into. I have a dozen of them.

>>279969946

His mask slipped because he wasn't expecting to hear the name of a woman he was still hung up on.

>him breaking down in the last episode because Julia was mentioned is just dumb.

He never breaks down in an emotional display. However, hearing about Julia's death and having to confront the reality that she is really gone is what moves him, just as Spike expected it to.

> After he literally just called a hit out on her and expected she was dead.

He planned it. He expected it. However, in the end, when the reality of it fully hits him it had an impact.

>His "let's end this" is directed at Spike and their rivalry.

Spike is the one that said they needed to "end it all" and he was looking to end both their existences.

>>279960228
fridge ep and clown ep sucked ass too

>>279970782
>clown ep

Shit taste.

>>279961349
What are those similarly great anime?

Is it an Ed episode? Good.
Is not an Ed episode? Ok.
Is a Julia episode? Bad
Simple as.

>>279964214
Top 3 all Julia episodes.

All epsiode besides Boogie-Woogie Feng Shui and, to a lesser extent, Brain Scratch were good.

>>279954044 (OP)
Yes absolutely, but I have lost admiration for the director

The Julia episode weren't bad, but I enjoyed them less than the episodic ones. The vague nature of the Syndicate didn't help me care for it that mucb as opposed to Jet and Faye's own backstory.

>>279954098
fpwp

I liked Outlaw Star wayy more.

>>279958599
>>279958878
Kino Star

>>279959363
Based
>>279960228
>>279970782
>>279970922
Lazarus is shit, anon, it fucking sucks, I'd say it is the worst thing Watanabe has done by far, but according to Watanabe himself his biggest mistake and the worst thing he was ever a part of is Space Dandy (his words, not mine)

>>279973151
Not sure why you quoted me. I wasn't even talking about Lazarus, I was replying to the anon that said Mad Pierrot sucked.

>>279973129
Aisha a cute
>>279973151
Samurai Champloo >>> Space Dandy > Bebop >>> literal shit >>>>>>> Lazarus

>>279971536
npc

>>279973321
Based, Champloo was his best show

>>279964214
to this day i still dont get why people find the last ep to be the best one. aside from the iconic final scene, that's about it. i found ep 5 way more interesting, and ep 20 the most fun out of the episodic bunch

I really like the movie.

I'm almost finished with it
It's definitely better than Trigun which I found overrated and ended up dropping
Some episodes are better than others, I'd give it an 8.5/10 so far