Crucible Valley

https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1024973?timestamp=1751209473642

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Big tits Dorf appear!

Cute Dorf Sindra.

New villain in iron spirit arc.

Feels like the author finally woke up for this chapter

>>280089969
Yeah. We needed chapters like this before the boring training infodump. We'll see if it's enough to save the manga or not.

>>280089969
>>280090002
please dont interrupt while I finish dump

>>280089622
STANDING PAIZURI!!!
STANDING PAIZURI!!!
STANDING PAIZURI!!!

Fin

What your thought on latest chapter so far?

So far, so good. I find big tits dorf Sindra really cute!

With the introduction of another spirit and a villain who's part of some elite group it feels like the story is finally taking off, but it might be a bit too late for that after the somewhat lackluster start. The one thing working for the series' favor is that WSJ's current lineup is very underwhelming so the bar is set relatively low.

Sindra getting the iron spirit and joining the squad?

>>280090057
Actually a neat idea

>>280090207
I'm not sure if Iron spirit is part of heros in tale, so maybe not?

>>280090134
Pretty good chapter this time.

Good chap but it should've been chapter 4 or even chapter 3. Those 5 chapters of training were so goddamn boring and useless.

dwarf??? none of them look different than humans. the fuck?? especially that girl. atleast tolkien make them have beard, big hairy one. even woman have one.

>>280090255
its just probably part of earth.

>>280090460
Chapter 4 and 5 are only two actual traning chapters.

WHERE THE TALL MUSCLE BITCHES AT???

>>280090895
No, you will get SHORTSTACK GAL and YOU WILL LIKE IT!

All kidding aside. his editor probably told him to force on something else.

>>280090629
What are you talking about? There is beard dwarfs in pages.

>>280089447 (OP)
>>280089773
>>280089816
>>280090026

Actual decent chapter

>>280090134
Really enjoyed this and the past few chapters. It's shaping up to be a fun read.

WHERE DID THE AMAZONIAN BUFF WOMEN GO THO?

>>280089692
Why do all his characters have the exact boring expressions on their faces?

>>280090134
Pretty good move to have the hero do something that's dangerous and stupid instead of waiting.

Good chapter. Probably the best chapter so far, actually. I like OTR a fair bit, I just hope it manages to live long enough to do anything.

>>280090460
>Those 5 chapters of training
learn how to count

mangaplus view chapter 1 was almost 200k, but nowadays, its only 57k. what happened??

>>280090657
If it is "earth" spirit, she tho to wield a big hammer.

>>280089969
Came here to post this

>>280090255
Spear and shield dude?

>>280090026
>interrupt
dipshit that's only for posting images during a dump

>>280092595
Spear and shield doesn't sound very "DORF" for dwarf gal like Sindra.

>>280089622
Skinny dwarf. Need some meat!

>>280092905
I couldn't agree more, She tho have some beefier body type like debonair but in shortstack.

>>280089944
Another spirit already?

>>280090134
Decent, but the worldbuilding is still terrible. We know very little about the forest kingdom outside of they apparently have a king too. If this valley was so important, surely there should be some sign or exposition dump about their attempt to defend or reclaim it.

>>280090134
Thx mate.

>>280093308
That would be saved for later chapters.

>>280093567
The forest kingdom needed to be expanded upon 5 chapter ago.

>>280093686
Not saying you're wrong but Kawaguchi prefer show, don't tell instead.

>>280093900
>show, don't tell
Are we reading the same series?

>>280089988
>frozen for who knows how much
>conveniently, the MC arrives right before they die
lol

>>280090134
Story is moving way too fast. Nothing has time to sink in. Seriously, the story is moving at a pace of a manga that's been axed and has 3 chapters left to finish the plot.

>>280094015
Don't, that kills so many mangakas art.

>>280092387
shitty training arc filtered everyone

>>280094144
Fast stories are fine, it's just that none of the characters in Otr are worth giving a shit about

>>280094181
Oh for Pete’s sake, It only 2 training chapters and that it.

>>280092387
We reading the same website? At 12:30pm, CST, chapter has nearly 150k views on mangaplus.

>>280094127
I don't like that the spirit itself relayed that information. It should have been the dwarf if its so close to dying.

>>280094348
You can see the exact views on the app
As you can see the training chapters obliterated the hype

>>280094250
well no one thinks that

>>280089969
holy cope. its gettng axed

>>280094995
Fuck off, axeposter

>>280090057
our heroes are so smart

>>280089622
>>280089692
>Still no Alajoki
>But new cute booba character
BASED KAWAGUCHI
>>280090134
3 Good Chapters in a row, let's hope the Japs notice this too

>>280095725
Nips seem have a positive on this chapter so far. Also they like sindra’s boobs.

>>280089622
I was this close to dropping, sasuga Kawaguchi

>>280090026
This shortstack is 50% head and 40% chest

>>280095992
perfect

>>280090026
>please dont interrupt while I finish dump
interrupting is posting pics during a dump, newfag

>>280094558
I find it rather odd that it only two chapter in train arc, and they lose the hype over that chapter.

>>280090134
>HYDRATE!

>>280090134
BGest chapter by a lot

>>280096889
It's not odd at all. You can't justify a training arc three chapters into a story when your main character has yet to fail. Also, the writing is shit in general and none of the characters are even remotely interesting enough to carry an early training arc.

>>280094153
Miura tired digital on berserk for first time and it look terrible.

>>280089773
>>280090026
The important villains have more generic designs than the goons, he needs to fix that

>>280089447 (OP)
mecca exists in this world?

>>280096889
it was very boring and he couldn't create a strong connection with the characters. i keep reading out of curiosity but it just feels like blander red hood and he simply didn't improve his writing enough

>>280089464
I really like the feeling of scope and "new area"

>>280099337
Agree, it does look really nice.

>>280099329
it feels like absorbed the complaints about RH's story without understanding them

It's too late for Otr. MH hates it.

>>280089622
>no beard

>>280100656
dwarf woman with beard is just gross.

>>280090207
And I bet the iron spirit is male to help even out the ratio.

>>280089622
He really is afraid of drawing big muscle mommies again. That's not the reason Red Hood flopped.

>>280101634
his editor probably forced him do something else.

>>280101634
As much he love to draws muscle mommie, he probably prefer draws loli more, to relate to younger female readers.

>>280102081
His current Loli is worse than Red Hood's Loli too

>>280101634
I like Sindra's design more than Alajoki's.

>>280101629
Explain further.

>>280102337
What so bad about Etupirku?

>>280102474
I always dig shortstack, hope she join Otr team later on.

>>280103278
I agree with the idea that she'll be the person to team up with the iron spirit.

>>280102519
Think her clothes. personality and abilities would fit a 16-19 year old girl better, the Loli Witch in Red Hood felt more natural

>>280089464
If this mangaka flops he should be happy that at least he's one of the greatest of all time at making this type of spreads

>>280104449
Well that on Kawasaki, beside I do wish we have a Grimm like character in Otr.

>>280101634
I don't know why people keep insisting that that's the only body type he draws. He drew more normal-looking girls in both RH and Otr, and the only times he drew a muscular woman was when it made sense for the character.

>>280105960
It like they think Kawaguchi draw muscular gal exclusively.

>>280106838
>both series start with muscle mommies
Hm, I wonder why.

>>280107378
Alajoki wasn’t main character tho.

>>280106838
Guess people got used to skinny girls being the norm in physical roles, that having one that looks the part is jarring
>>280107378
Grimm was fit, but nowhere near someone like Debonair. And only looked bigger because Velou was tiny. She looked normal next to the other characters. Alajoki is a side character.

dorf milkers

>>280107868
This is fit to you?
>Alajoki is a side character.
So? How is that relevant to what I said.

>>280108410
Man, those leather details are crazy, kawaguchi really love to draw women with leather, not to meant look at those fricking thick legs, tight and butt. It almost likes a religion for him to draw that way. God bless this man and his leather leg fetish.

And the best part is, he's still doing to this day.

>>280108410
>This got canceled

>>280108778
village arc and training exam arc is what got canceled.

>>280098706
classic kawaguchi shitty vocabulary. or bad translation. this dude dialogue is awful and didnt match the setting (time and place).

>>280108778
It did, which is why I'm hoping his editor is competent enough to tell him what problems there are to try to fix them in a smart way rather than drive this down to an early axe as well.

>>280096889
Honestly it feels like a 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' type of scenario. It seems no matter what he does, unless it's a one-shot, people are going to not like his work for whatever reason.

>>280111043
Red hood editor was taguchi a.k.a. a shinigami who got all new series end up got axed, his editor career was so bad it they relocation him to different department.

>>280111098
Because he's not a good writer. This isn't a mystery.

>>280111131
Was talking about his current series, not RH. And yeah, Taguchi was fucking atrocious. Should have moved him to a different department far earlier imo.

>>280090134
I'm pretty mixed, I liked this chapter and them helping the town in the last few but I didn't like how the training arc was handled.

>>280111098
People are hard to please and they don't know what they want. That's just the way things are, unfortunately.

>>280111328
What part of training arc do you don't like? Beside 2 chapters just of training arc.

>>280111258
Then who do you think the current the best writer in wsj?

>>280111705
No one really stands out to me. WSJ is in a rough spot right now, but I guess One Piece or Ichi if I had to pick. I'm not saying Otr can't improve, as this chapter was decent barring the really bad attempt at empathy from Otr on the last page, but I have little hope in how well Kawaguchi is going to handle the subsequent fight based on his current track record.

>>280113233
That's understandable.

OTR BROS... ANOTHER META STORY BY KAWAGUCHI

>>280114030

>>280114030
>>280114058
That sound ridiculous for meta, you're way overthinking.

>>280114030
>>280114058
Sounds schizophrenic. I like it.

>>280110275
>>280098706
that one's on the translation at least

>>280114575
so what it does said in original cause mecca doesn't make any sense.

>>280114658
Literally Holy land.

>>280114658
sacred land, holy land, etc
would be acceptable if it was someone talking casually in a more modern setting, but totally out of place in this.

>>280114728
>>280114762
Unbelievable, translation team really did fuck it up on that part, what the fuck was dan luffey thinking?

this chapter try to do too much and cram it in 1 chapter:
-worldbuilding
-backstory for the place and folk
-introduction of new character
-plot, set up a plan and already executed it.

and fall short because the most important part. characters and their dynamic relationship. their dialogue is just exposition and plot. their interaction is just nothing. its the biggest kawaguchi weakness. his cast are suckass and bland and boring.
kaedegami deliver better, and its only 2 chapter. with new scenery (place) and monster of the week format.

>>280108410
>>280108692
Reveal that Loli is capable of turning into a grown woman like Grimm and that's why the Big Guy didn't remember she's a kid too needed

>>280108410
Yes. If you went to the gym you'll see a lot of girls with legs like hers.
>So? How is that relevant to what I said.
It means that hers is but a body type he draws. Not the one he draws the most or the one he wants to draws the most like everybody keeps repeating

>>280114834
my issue is that there is not time to adventure. they go there and blam, two pages of exposition.
imagine if in one piece they landed on water7 and in two pages it told you about tom, cutty flam, the island sinking, the train and in the next page iceburg was like "glowies are attacking help me"

>>280100384
>ok, i'll have him leave the village on chapter 1
>ok, the training arc will be shorter
but in spirit he still is doing the same blueprint, except it took him 6 chapters as opposed to 18.
his manga make me sad because i can see the potential but he always squanders it because he simply can't make you connect with the characters or the world.
red hood is a world that promises monsters inspired by fables and western folklore... and then sticks us inside a metal box. otr promises a fight against draugr and other norse beasts... and then sticks us on a boring mountain learning bitchass basic ki.

An issue with the training arc is also that there is no visible difference between Otr before and after training

>>280117948
there's no difference at all. he did not grow as a person, he didn't learn anything. he only learned to do what he did in chapter 1

>>280118213
Even the "he had to learn how to use the powers without passing out" justification, Gorilla woman could've just told him to make sure to work out and keep it at that

>>280092905
>>280101634
>introduce the gorilla woman in the first two chapters to lure in the homos from his first series
>center all the rest on petite girls and skinny shortstacks
Superior taste from the author, he's growing before our very eyes

>>280116957
right, if its OP or Ichi, that information or content can stretch for a volume. again, kawaguchi cant write for shit. its weather too shallow detail (training arc). or too much in the blandest deliver ever (narrator or boring character)

>>280118312
also i think otr just kinda lacks agency like velou. they both felt like the were along for the ride. their desires don't shape the plot.
take dragon ball. bulma wants the mcguffin to get a wish granted and goku is along for the ride because one of said mcguffin is a family memento. the story is an adventure to collect all seven of them. every step they take is to find them all.
what does otr do? he just kinda wants to beat the bad guy, but all he does is waiting for others to tell him what to do next. it doesn't feel like what he does is actually getting him close

that 2 female have no distinct personality at all. and three of them have same height, also similar passiveness, none standout or eccentric. with sixten, it will slug borefest group.

is this the best you can come up with????

feeling deja vu in thread...

>>280111098
>>280096889
I like it, but might have been good if he had a few adventures on his own before he got to the hero training arc, trying to use vigor by himself from the knowledge of the eddas or something, maybe people would have found that more interesting.

>>280120147
It would nice to see it happen but his editor wants him to push out of hero training arc out of way before it dragged it down. Btw we still don’t know who is editor for kawaguchi yet.

>>280089622
Boobies

>>280103278
>adds adult sex appeal without always showing that Otr and Etupirko are short kids
Genius way to use a dwarf woman.

>>280121323
It would be really funny if sindra were similar age as short kids, even though she is a dwarf.

Bros... Where's the hype?

>>280120526
I mean, it's already too late, so instead of having the hero chapters in vol 1, he could have gotten something by himself from the eddas, then contacted the loli who after the inital reticence agreed to take him with the hero after seeing him free a village wiyth hsi guts and using a barebones vigor or some shit, they they get some basic traning while travelling together, maybe free the dwarves by themselves and ge to the trainign arc by volume 3.

>>280111405
>People are hard to please and they don't know what they want. That's just the way things are, unfortunately.
No it's just really bland and uninteresting, especially otr himself and there's isn't interesting stuff going on that the main character find or has to faced.
To me so far the only draw this manga have are the decent drawing and it is made by the author of (canceled) redhood.
Most people give redhood a chance because of the big womans and the interesting premise and world building and they expecting something like that with otr, everything is just so bland right now that people would naturally lose interest over time.

>>280116275
Her legs are pure muscle. You are retarded.

Syndra may be boring but she's kind of erotic

>>280123708
Yes, fit implies that muscles can be noticed you ignoramus.

>>280124075
I’ll looking forward to see more of her!

>>280124130
>body builder legs
Whatever you say, anon.
>>280124075
I like her more than the fire spirit.

>>280125803
>I like her more than the fire spirit
You take that back!

>>280125803
The fire spirit at least has some spunk, and for a Dwarf, Syndra looks pretty human to me.

This hasn't been axed yet?

>>280126526
Wouldn't surprise me if it's revealed she's half dwarf.

>>280126534
Fuck off

>>280126526
>>280126634
Or maybe she really young kid for dwarf

>>280126701
I'll go, but the question remains

>>280126979
Adult Female Dwarves would have even bigger tits nice

>>280127026
Still Fuck off

>>280127026
>>280127613
OKAY NOW KISS

>>280105960
Muscle women fetishist, don't think too hard about it.

>>280128609
To be fair, his one-shot feature ghost muscles woman team up with school student, his /ss/ is showing.

>>280127137
Imagine that

We are in chapter 8 and the characterisation of the cast is still too vague. Dude should learn to give his characters more personality instead of focusing on cool worldbuilding details.

>>280129261
it names Kinniku Jorei btw.

>>280124075
She is defo getting the Iron Spirit.

>>280130769
dude is a closeted hyperfag for sure

>>280130924
Iron spirit seem a very important role in crucible valley as heart forge, it wouldn't make sense for sindra to be iron spirit user unless his editor forces him to change it.

Not that I don't mind tho cause I like to see her join Otr team.

>>280131328
Hyperfag? What does it suppose to mean?