i'm kinda tired of seeing the same wrong opinions on imgboards and forums about Crunchyroll and subs so here's a few facts - anonymous of course so I don't get accused of breaking NDA (I left CR right before the merger layoffs but still)

- sometimes Crunchyroll gets subs from licensors, and they're **prohibited** from adjusting them, per contract. any alterations (and the involved costs) must be approved by Japan in these cases
- the Yuzuki Family incident, the Nokotan incident, the infamous "Shisogapo" sign in Charlotte, those are all cases of licensor-provided subs. Crunchyroll can relay complaints to the licensor and convince them to fix things but not always
- the recent incidents with Necronomico and Lord of the Mysteries are different - these AI-translation companies have been hired by CR directly in an effort to cut costs, to test their output
- CR localization members uploaded the subs as-is, betting that the general response would be so bad that would steer leadership away from AI-translation
- the CR CEO has investments in a number of AI translation companies and often tries to profit from CR through them (see: closed caption issues)
- you can tell if a sub has been done inhouse or not by looking at the main font - Trebuchet for inhouse, Arial for 3rd party (at least for EN, not sure for other languages)
- the best thing you can do is flood support with complaints, since those are always accounted/relayed to leadership and used as pressure; people that only complain on the internet but do not post tickets are seen as "pirates who wouldn't pay anyway"

>>280212898 (OP)
>paying for anime
guau lol

>>280212898 (OP)
>CR localization members uploaded the subs as-is, betting that the general response would be so bad that would steer leadership away from AI-translation
>intentionally trolling their own company just to get them to stop
Holy based if true

>>280212898 (OP)
>people that only complain on the internet but do not post tickets are seen as "pirates who wouldn't pay anyway"
But that's what we are?

>>280212898 (OP)
>- sometimes Crunchyroll gets subs from licensors, and they're **prohibited** from adjusting them, per contract. any alterations (and the involved costs) must be approved by Japan in these cases
Why not just NEVER use subs provided by Japan? Their reputation suffers because they are totally fine with relying on sketchy subcontractors (Japan in this case).

>- the Yuzuki Family incident, the Nokotan incident, the infamous "Shisogapo" sign in Charlotte, those are all cases of licensor-provided subs.
[citation needed]

>- the CR CEO has investments in a number of AI translation companies and often tries to profit from CR through them
Source?

>>280212898 (OP)
>- CR localization members uploaded the subs as-is, betting that the general response would be so bad that would steer leadership away from AI-translation
I've seen that argument before on either xitter or bsky, but that seems to be a very, very generous take.
>they're **prohibited** from adjusting them, per contract
True, but they always have the choice not to publish them at all.

AI translation is fine if it's accurate. The problem is we get subs that are inaccurate regardless of what/who does it.

>>280213531
two reasons: a) they "pay" for part of the localization and b) they want control over how the show is done. When the licensor is someone like Toei or Aniplex with decades of experience in the market, it's less of an issue. but some new companies often fall victim of bad translation companies, or want to cut costs and sacrifice quality

as for the rest of the complaints: Nokotan was licensed via REMOW and other platforms that licensed the show via REMOW had similar issues, same for Charlotte (Aniplex). it's almost public at this point

Damn, I hate making timing so much. Sadly, CR timing is utterly fucked and unusable, as it was Whisper-ed or worse.

>>280212974
somehow I feel like this post isn't going to be followed up with a "buying anime is pointless since the only metric they care about is domestic manga sales, here, look the JP Kobo I imported and all these titles that got a S2 thanks to me!"

>>280213771
CR can just say 'no' to licensor subs, yeah. and then they won't get the show's licensing contract. it's definitely a decision

>>280212898 (OP)
true but very worded post

>>280214011
Yeah, and my point is that it's a better choice when the subtitles are this abhorrent. Nobody can enjoy the show anyway, and even if the management hates anime and anime fans it's still a PR disaster. No harm done if another licensor takes it, only more headache for them.

>>280214099
it's hard. dealing with licensors involve nurturing relationships. if you say 'no' to a demand without good reason, even for a minor show, you can risk that relationship for a long time (and lose a big title in the horizon)

letting it explode on the users' face and getting leverage to negotiate is just good business practice unfortunately

>>280212898 (OP)
>people that only complain on the internet but do not post tickets are seen as "pirates who wouldn't pay anyway"
well, that's exactly what I am. after what they did to PriCon, I would never consider giving that shitfest of a company a single penny

>>280214397
>after what they did to PriCon
Why did you wait so many years to even consider that? They've been shit since the day they went legit. Fuck, people already hated them for what they did the day they turned legit.

>>280212898 (OP)
Tl;dr CR subs are dogshit.
Ground breaking news.

give me nisekoi level of subs again :(

>>280214684
They were shit even before they went legit. They were literally stealing fansubs.

>>280212898 (OP)
dont care, I am fluent in nihongo

The absolute state of Crunchyroll.

>>280213216
Where do you think torrent sites source their rips retard. They come from Crunchyroll. Fan subbing has been dead for years.

>>280215912
you shouldn't be calling others retards when you can't even read
and if you can't even read, why are you even part of this conversation about subtitles? they can't AI dub anime yet

>>280216009
>they can't AI dub anime yet
Why not though, AI dubbing is the hot thing even on YouTube (which I hate because sometimes you can't turn the damn thing off).

I forgot how exhausting this is. Really hope that I won't need to finish it, Elder Gods spare me.

>>280216594
I already hate your subs and perceive them as barely better than the garbage that was released by crunchyshit, if that's enough reason for you to quit now and save yourself the waste of effort. I'm sure the usual rabble will enjoy something that reads better even if the localization is shit though so do as you please.

>>280216898
>if that's enough reason for you to quit now and save yourself the waste of effort
It is actually, thanks.

>>280216594
You're doing gods work here. Good luck!

>>280212974
More like
>Needing subs
Only subs I want are the original Japanese ones that come with it

Also where do you think HorribleSubs gets their subtitles from?

>>280212898 (OP)
Who does the licensor-provided subs? Presumably they've have hired some third party company.

>>280216009
Your post is nonsensical

See
>>280217228
If the cr subs are shit then the subs you get when pirating anime will be shit because they are the same fucking subs

>>280217228
>original Japanese ones
Really wish this show had them.

>>280217630
Your options are to find a Japanese home release that includes them or something that captured the captioning data with the broadcast.

>>280217754
I've already checked and none of the TV broadcasts have captions. The online streamers listed also usually don't have any captions, although we'll see tomorrow if Prime makes one of their rare exceptions. No Netflix for this show, sadly. And anime BDs these days almost never have captions...

>>280212898 (OP)
>CR dindu nuffin, he a good boi
Okay, and?

This is bullshit, but i believe it.

>>280212898 (OP)
Interesting if this is true.

Honest question: how do we fix crunchyroll.

>>280218504
i know reading comprehension is in the shitters in this forum, but please read again. in this specific case CR is totally not a good boi

>>280217243
it depends a lot. sometimes it's the same company that does the dub. sometimes it's respected freelancers. sometimes it's the first company they find that charge pennies. that's why quality varies so much

>[CenturyZeta] Necronomiko no Cosmic Horror Show 01 (1080p) (Necronomico)

>>280223031
Finally, subs in actual readable English.

>>280214011
>Oh no! The other party will punish us by not selling us their product!
The only one losing here is the Japanese company selling anime licenses.

>>280214379
>you can risk that relationship for a long time
So the party that provided the shitty subs is not 'risking a relationship', huh?

>>280216594
That's why sub GROUPS exist - one person can't do it alone.

>>280218041
>And anime BDs these days almost never have captions...
I can't believe that. It would be so discriminatory towards the disabled.

>>280221849
>https://help.crunchyroll.com/hc/en-us/categories/21642684154644-Fix-a-Problem
Spam them with complaints.

>>280212898 (OP)
>- sometimes Crunchyroll gets subs from licensors, and they're **prohibited** from adjusting them, per contract. any alterations (and the involved costs) must be approved by Japan in these cases
I don't believe this for a second and even bigwigs on ANN were casting doubt on this claim

It gets better kek
>https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2025-07-01/crunchyroll-german-necronomico-and-the-cosmic-horror-show-subtitles-listed-chatgpt/.226206

>Update: As of July 2 EDT, the dialogue line in the German subtitles no longer has the "ChatGPT said:" prefix.
>Update 2: ANN has learned that a third-party vendor provided Crunchyroll with the AI-generated subtitles in episode 1 of Necronomico and the Cosmic Horror Show.
>Update 3: Crunchyroll informed ANN that AI-generated subtitles violate the company's agreements with vendors.

Whoa, such liars!
>On the hot-button issue of AI, Purini said the company stands with creators in Japan and elsewhere striving to maintain authenticity in production. “We are not considering AI in the creative process, including our voice actors. We consider them to be creators because they are contributing to the story and plot with their voice.”
>He added the company is looking at AI and machine learning in back-end systems to improve content discoverability, recommendations and personalization, but only as ways to improve the customer experience and not touching on the content itself.
>"We spend a lot of time interacting with fans, listening to them, understanding what they're saying and taking that feedback not only back to our creators in Japan but also internally to determine how we can better serve them,” Purini says.
>https://www.forbes.com/sites/robsalkowitz/2025/04/08/inside-crunchyrolls-latest-plans-to-expand-the-anime-universe/

>>280223031
>>280223688
>>280224642

>https://www.theverge.com/ai-artificial-intelligence/696819/crunchyroll-ran-embarrassingly-bad-chatgpt-subtitles-on-its-new-anime-series

>>280212898 (OP)
>I left CR right before the merger layoffs
>the recent incidents with Necronomico and Lord of the Mysteries are different
How the fuck would you know that?

>>280213098
>Holy based
All of my NANI. These are firm grounds for immediate termination
These are, like we say in my memecountry "patadas de ahogado" (drown man kicks) aka useless and desperate measures, These fuckers made their own bed, now sleep on it you dumbfucks. For years we have to endure smug bastars changing anime works because it didnt fit with their worldviews and agendas, now that the viewership is fed up with them, the japanese studios protested those unsolicited changes, and they are being replaced woth AI, now they feel compelled to "protest"
And you know what add insult to injury? they surely thought that they were smart choosing a "good series" for their protest, only to find out that the series is shit anyways. Its like spitting on a shit sandwich hoping that people would not eat it.
Anyway, I expect the "protesters" to be GTFO. The AI subtitles and localization is here to stay. For them it sure is shocking to find out that actions have consequences.

>>280212898 (OP)
>"pirates who wouldn't pay anyway"
I mean, that's what CR is. Bring back 1-2 day speed subs via jap CC.

>>280212898 (OP)
>Trebuchet for inhouse, Arial for 3rd party
How can you even tell a difference between them?

>>280215834
Nothing wrong with this.