Was it worth killing Gainax for this?

>>280348129 (OP)
I think so.

>>280348129 (OP)
I apologize to Trigger. I still think they are a mid-level studio that are hit-or-miss in their track record.

But Khara made me realize just how shit Post-Gainax can actually go. GQuuuuuuX was worse than Franxx and Kiznaiver. They can't write to save their lives and it shows.

>>280348129 (OP)
Luluco was god tier. Kiznaiver had a cute girl. Akko is a miracle. Strawberry is cute. Mako is a miracle. Panty is a cute slut. Rika thighs

Prognosis: yes

>>280348338
i know youre falseflagging but please get better at it.

>>280348444
Also muleChan

>>280348129 (OP)
only one of their shows is good
you know which one

>>280348129 (OP)
TTGL, Gunbuster and RE:Cutie Honey were the only truly worthwhile Gainax anime, so yes. KLK and Gridman alone clear rest of their catalog combined imho.
Haven't seen KareKano but it's popular on xitter, so I'm probably not missing much.

>>280348505
I count 4 plus p/SG 2 might be good

>>280348129 (OP)
Now show us the latter-era Gainax. Does anyone even remember Shikabane Hime?

>>280348460
Sorry you can't accept the truth.

>>280348129 (OP)
It's crazy how hard the former Gainax staff fell off. KLK was pretty decent, Kiznaiver was ok, Little Witch was boring pseudo yuri, DarliFra was unbearable and after that the shows became bottom of the barrel trash pandering to westeners.

>>280348129 (OP)
Are we expected to factor in the MAL scores here? Because DitF being rated higher than Gridman should be a very clear indication not to do that.

But regardless yes. Gainax was a sinking ship managed by retards from basically the get-go. First it was Gonzo, then Khara, then Trigger and all the guys who went to A-1/Cloverworks, then Gaina. All of their talent eventually saw the writing on the wall and left to form their own studios or join others while the Gainax management floundered making backdoor deals, selling tomatoes and putting girls on casting couches for ugly bastards. Literally made every wrong decision they possibly could and only got by because they artists they had working for them kept turning out hits. Their death spiral was satisfying to watch.

MALniggers should never be trusted again after picrel.

>>280348676
Can you explain the split reaction to Gquacks to me? I don't get it. I liked it, some people seem to really dislike it.

>>280348676
Onimai is well-executed and fine for what it is. GQuuuuuuX is a failure on every level and it's a tragedy how far Anno and Tsurumaki have fallen.

>>280348676
They're right, though. gcucks was pure nostalgiaslop which wanted to target everyone, so in the end it reached no one

>>280348676
Onimai should be at least an 8.5, I agree.

>>280348665
There are still three splinter studios still carrying the GAINAX name.

>>280348676
You just have shit taste, anon.

>>280348774
Tsurumaki's entire career since Diebuster has been regurgitating shit he liked. There was no fall with him.

>>280348546
barely. I watched both seasons and honestly would have forgotten about it had I not logged it

I have yet to watch a single Trigger "anime"

>>280348796
>Gaina
>Fukushima Gainax
What's the third one? I thought Gainax itself was being thoroughly dismantled after a coup by Anno and King Records.

>>280348129 (OP)
8/10 l 7/10 l 5/10 l 6/10
4/10 l 6/10 l 5/10 l 6/10
10/10l6/10 l 9/10 l ???

Only 3 I would miss, so nah.

>>280348129 (OP)
>Kiznaiver and FranXX above Gridman
Jesus...

>>280348338
> GQuuuuuuX was worse than Franxx
low effort bait

>>280349283
Franxx is a coomer thing. Nobody cared about the plot or the robots.

>>280348129 (OP)
Gainax killed themselves. Trigger is what happens when the last of the talent jump ship.

>>280348338
>GQuuuuuuX was worse than Franxx
I wouldn't go that far, but Khara is still a terrible, terrible studio. Almost two decades old and the only things of note it's done are the Eva Rebuilds. And they worked on Franxx too.

>>280349069
>Yonago Gainax
>Gainax Kyoto
>GAINAX WEST
There are others, but it's like keeping track of protestant sects. You look away and suddenly there's 5 more offshoots made by some disagreement by middle aged guys.

>>280349380
A lot of people cared for the plot, that's what kept it popular. Then it fucked up so badly that it left us wondering why the hell we ever bothered. In hindsight it was poorly written and badly paced, but it had neat ideas and execution at times. It's astounding it managed something as kino as the storybook episode only to end on a finale that just goes "yeah, uh, we win now, the end".

>>280349155
Trigger true forte is on its shorts, undeniable.

>>280349387
The Animator Expo, nigger.

>>280349530
This post fits GQuacks just as well, except no one cared about the plot at all, not even the writers.

>>280349530
It was mostly a pacing problem, almost every complain about the show comes from that exposition episode that came out of nowhere and the second half in general, up to episode 15 people were saying it was the best anime of all time.

>>280348129 (OP)
It was worth it for THIS

>>280349623
>up to episode 15 people were saying it was the best anime of all time
Those people were known as retards who fell for the theatrical aspect ratio bait.

LWA alone worth it

>>280348129 (OP)
>>280348338
I don't get why people treat Trigger with kiddie gloves when a bunch of other "mid-level" studios have been able to make artistic AND consistently well animated adaptations while Trigger stuff is all over the place and constantly cutting corners. They couldn't even get it together for the Dungeon Meshi adaptation and had super medicore environment/background art in a fantasy setting and just okay color direction. Just one or two quirkily animated sakuga moments every few episodes doesn't make up for a lack of strong art direction. Science Saru and Cloverworks blows them out of the water.

>>280349736
because muh gainax. Millennials love their sacred cow.

>>280349623
>up to episode 15 people were saying it was the best anime of all time.
Because that was literally all that was pre-planned. DitF had a week break where they aired one of those re-cap/staff commentary episodes and I'm certain it was in an interview during that episode where the director said, the first 6 episodes were set in stone and his vision for a long time, then up to episode 15 was more loosely planned. But after that were just winging it.

I do not know how the director pitched this to Aniplex and got 2 cours greenlit but maybe they were just gambling on Gainax reunion magic to carry it through it's second cour to a string finish. But what they got was an ending so bad that it killed the IP before anybody could even turn a profit on it. Still one of the biggest blunders I have ever seen.

If the anime had been a single cour with 13 episodes and ended like Yabuki's manga adaptation did it would have been solidified as a hit.

>>280349626
Saeki works for SHAFT now. Assault Lily, Luminous Witches, and NinKoro from last season outclass most Trigger works and all of Khara's filmography.

>>280349690
the TV series was garbage desu

>>280349736
Trigger deserves the hate they get, for sure. I was one of their long-time critics here. Their best work was the first LWA movie and it's basically been middling from there. They largely keep telling the same story over and over again with the same GAINAX legacy animation tricks and fanservice bait. Many studios have better track records than them even if they don't have the cult-like fanbase to match Trigger's.

It's just that Khara are worse than them in every way.

>>280349949
Sure thing bro

>>280349736
Because most studios are kinda riding off the coattails of successful mangaka. Trigger rarely doing adaptations means that everything good or bad about their shows is entirely on them. Dandadan may be a good adaptation but it's still being carried by the fact that Dandadan is a good manga in the first place, nobody is praising Science Saru for their character designs or writing because that's usually someone else's doing.

>>280348772
It's a mix of people with shit taste, brainlets and idiots who watched it without watching 0079 and Zeta.

>>280348772
The people who aren't Tomino enthusiasts liked it.
The nips who got invested in the Lalah RTA memes liked the ending in a similar fashion to watching a streamer finally clear something they've been failing at for hours.
The ones who like even the most paperthin excuse for "romance" liked it.
The more primal minded among us who see boobs and instantly press 10/10 liked it.

Basically everyone else panned it.

>>280350640
Machu's machus were pretty great. Wish we got to see more of them.

>>280348129 (OP)
Gainax was dead regardless, the people who still wanted a job just moved to where they could still work. They didn't kill Gainax, that ship had sailed.

>have yet to make a Trigger girls anime
YAAAAWN

>>280348338
>GQuuuuuuX was worse than Franxx
Alright GQuuuuuuX was a trainwreck but let's not get too crazy. It was nowhere near as bad as Franxx.

>>280351009
Machu's Pichus, anon.
And you can see more of them, for the right price.

>>280350244
Hardly, SS elevated the fuck out of Eizouken which has some of the most shit art I've seen in a "big" manga as well as doing a super stylized adaptation in Scott Pilgrim as well. Even for Dandadan they understood the assignment by going crazy with the color schemes, which is the exact opposite of what the Chainsaw man Mappa adaptation did by going for a directorial art style that didn't carry over any of the manga's energy and style. Trigger does just okay on both their original works and their adaptation and covers all their shortcomings with "stylish" animation tricks that are going out of style now that webgen animators are all over the place.

>>280349380
The only thing I see of this shit are people laughing at the fat character for getting cucked. Spammed up the catalog.

>>280348129 (OP)
>less than half the number of reviews as Gridman
Why did no one watch it?

>>280352483
We were laughing at Machu getting cucked too, until she became a prostitute.

>>280352324
>animation tricks that are going out of style now that webgen animators are all over the place
If spastic incomprehensible webgen madness is the future of anime then we should all collectively hope Trigger keeps their outdated animation tricks going as long as possible.

>>280352921
No, it's more like the webgen animator scene has evolved to the point where they can be used as either an undetectable replacment to analog or the artsy shit. Something like Heavenly Delusion's opening is considered webgen "cool" now and Trigger's style isn't seen as innovative anymore since it's the same stuff they've been doing since the 2010s.

>>280352921
>spastic incomprehensible webgen madness is the future of anime
Yes.

>>280348129 (OP)
worth it for klk, luluco, dungeon meshi, gridman and edgerunners.
ditf was not trigger.

>>280353754
>ditf was not trigger
stop the cope

>>280348129 (OP)

>>280353815
None of their key creative people were in key creative positions so I don't think it's a stretch to not pin the overall fuck-up on them like so many people tend to do. Nobody ever mentions the retarded director from A-1 Atsushi Nishigori or his co-writer who fucked off after a handful of episodes. Nobody mentions A-1 studio at all despite being the biggest contributor to the project. Most people probably don't even know that Anno's studio Khara also worked on it.

I dont consider Heavenly Delusion, Boogiepop 2019 or Made in Abyss Dawn of the Deep Soul Trigger anime either despite them working on all of those.

>>280353593
I don't remember these characters from Onimai.

>>280348129 (OP)
no

>>280348546
I remember Petite Princess Yucie

>>280349547
I can agree with that
But I'd still like to see them do a proper Transformers series

>>280348772
Ever heard of Spider Man No Way Home? Its basically that.

Doctor Strange Multiverse of Madness is a good example too. MC got sideline for legacy characters type shit. It was so bad that the MCs couldnt even stand on their own.

>>280348338
>GQuuuuuuX was worse than Franxx
Retard

>>280355304
>posts a character more irrelevant than even the most irrelevant member of the Franxx cast
Comoli is Naomi but somehow did even less than she did.

>>280348774
>well-executed and fine for what it is
Irrelevant when it's conceptually and spiritually repulsive. Demon Slayer is also well-executed and fine for what it does but I have a feeling the average fag who thinks Onimai is good will object to that statement.

>>280349395
Kek. I have never heard of any of these.

>>280348129 (OP)
Why are you including only Trigger shows? Other Gainax former employees went to Khara and A1

>>280352494
Because mecha aren't popular anymore, plus being part of established franchise.

>>280356981
Khara is irrelevant save for Evangelion

>>280348772
long time gundam fans despised it
but if you go in for pretty girls and pretty animation cuts you might have some fun

>>280348772
It’s a “What if” story that mashed so much things together in only 12 episode

As a whole it’s too bloated and as a nostalgia trip it was okay. But for the memes it spawned, it was a gold mine

>>280348676
>>280348772
Why the fuck are you acting like the people who disliked it are the weird ones? This show was utter dogshit.