Oh

>>280449171 (OP)
Neat, I like the option

>>280449171 (OP)
American never watched anything with subs, their brain can't read that fast

We all know sub watchers sail the high seas.

>>280449171 (OP)
>80 to 90 percent of Netflix users opt to watch anime dubbed

This would be less of a problem if most dubs weren't so shit.

>>280449359
No, dubs are fundamentally worse than subs even if the voice acting is good. Dubs are only for children who are too young to read quickly enough.

>>280449171 (OP)
I don't have problem with dubs if they're good. Problem is that they got even worse somehow.

>>280449171 (OP)
Makes sense. I prefer sub generally, but part of that is because it used to take significantly longer for anime to get dubbed. Now, with simuldubs or having to wait just a week or two, I'm a bit more open to them if I hear they're good.

>>280449171 (OP)
What about BD buyers who actually pump money into the industry?

>>280449171 (OP)
Crazy, because dubs nowadays have regressed to being just a smidge better than they were in the 90s VHS era where they grabbed randoms off the street. Dubs in the mid 2000s to early 2010s were at least watchable most of the time even if the talent wasn't as good as their seiyu counterparts. I might care more to actually know what the fuck happened with the anime dubbing industry if I actually gave a shit about dubs that way, so I just imagine it was maximum hand-rubbing just like every other industry in the West today.

>>280449171 (OP)
Just means I'm not a fucking sheep

>>280449171 (OP)
Most zoomers are fiddling with their phone or doing other shit while "wacthing" anime, they can't read subs like that.

>>280449171 (OP)
I'm surprised it's as high as 20%, I though it would have been 1-2% max, especially on something like netflix.

>>280449575
Can confirm, my friend learnt Japanese just so they can multitask while watching anime and hated subs.

>>280449171 (OP)
this reads like that "90% of gamers are women" headline

>>280449295
This, but unironically. They are just not used to it.

A shame, because no matter how good the dub, almost a 100% of the time the original voices are better.

>>280449469
>>280449481
>>280449521
>>280449533
>>280449565
>>280449575
>>280449609
Bots

>>280449667
>100% of the time the original voices are better

Even if almost 100% all female VAs sound the same helium-filled chipmunks? Obviously there are exceptions but that's what they are, exceptions.

I wish /a/ had a single janny who browsed the board and recognized these garbage news article threads as spam.

>>280449359
If 30 people didnt voice act everything it would be a lot cooler.

>>280449171 (OP)
The only people who rely on dubs are those who would beaten by school children in a elementary reading contest.

>>280449171 (OP)
I'm not worried at all because stuff like ADA and foreign equivalents will keep subs around because of "muh disabilities"
Go thank your local deaf person today

>>280449742
Oh yea? Could a bot do....

>>280449171 (OP)
Don't care, I'm not using Crunchyshit. I'm a pirate.

>>280449742
>>280449884
THIS

>>280449819
The sad part is the newer generation of talent is worse the vast majority of the time on top of that

>>280449171 (OP)
Failed actor bros... we won.

>>280449819
isn't this also the case with Japanese voice actors? Like how often do you hear this bitch (albeit she does have range), or the Hayami Saori or Tomatsu Haruka (she does have a lovely voice), or Tanezaki Atsumi (also lovely voice and good range)...

>>280449575
fucking this everyone's attention span is fried it's impossible to even hold a conversation on a voice call anymore cause everybody is doing 5 different things at once

>>280450047
There's plenty of newbies coming in anon
Pic related was voiced by one

>>280449171 (OP)
When are going to admit that dub scripts are better written than more indian CR scripts half ran through chatgpt, dubs actually put time and effort into making the anime suitable for english viewers, and if you care so much about "translation accuracy" maybe you shouldn't have bullied GJM into an early grave

>>280449171 (OP)
How long have you been refusing to learn Japanese?

>>280449171 (OP)
Well duh. Subwatchers are piracychads.

The reality is that Netflix and many streaming services are only being partially watched as background noise, so dubs provide people with a way to half-ass their watching experience. Productions made with that viewer in mind suffer from a lack of subtlety.

>>280449171 (OP)
This has literally always been the case and only really indicates that normalweebs are learning that Crunchyroll exists as a platform

>>280450164
>make AI translate stuff into a script
>have someone who actually knows english proofread it and will get reprimanded for mistranslations
How is this so fucking difficult?

>>280450256
Japanese just doesn't translate well to English like that, especially when its time-constrained for dubs.

>>280449884
>>280449920

>>280449171 (OP)
Anyone who watches sub is not going to watch anime on crunchyroll or netflix. Personally I know Japanese and watch it straight from AT-X.

>>280449171 (OP)
>Sites confirm that most people are lazy and stupid.
I'm shocked.

I wish I knew Japanese as well as Spanish and English
I could have had so many great conversations with otaku in Japan
I at least had one good convo at a maid cafe through google translate

>>280449171 (OP)
>majority are normalfags on normalfag sites
wew, incredible discovery

>>280449171 (OP)
>tfw I'm the only subfag in my family
>tfw listening to my brother watch Squid Games with awful ill-fitting dub voices
JUST READ THE SUBS HOW CAN YOU LIKE THESE ROBOTIC ENGLISH VOICES

>>280450047
No? I've lived through so many different jap VAs and upandcomers popping up.

Can't say the same for dubs and the new VAs that I do hear are all dogshit.
The only dub VAs that I remotely enjoy are fucking A or B list hollywood actprs dabbling in voice acting.

>>280450467
Yeah hearing Liam Neeson in anime is a treat

>>280450453
watching dubs for a cartoon is kind of understandable, but watching dubs for a live action show is psychopathic

>>280450505
It's not understandable at all. Watching subbed is how you manage to learn the language. I learned English, Italian and German from watching TV. My country didn't use to dub anything. Once they started dubbing the cartoons into our own language, the level of English of children dropped like a rock and stayed there.

>>280449171 (OP)
The majority of normalfags are subhumans? Say it ain't so.

The only good dubs are for FMA (both versions), Cowboy Bebop, Riding Bean, and Black Lagoon.
Everything else is mediocre at best or ear cancer at worst

>>280450047
Not nearly, Japs have a wide pool of talent they can choose from despite having barely 120 million speakers, English is spoken by literally billions(I know majority are ESL) and should have wider pool than Japs but they don't because they don't invest in new talents

>>280449798
It has some of them but they are only lurking their own shitty yuri generals.

>>280450740
I thought Yuyu Hakusho had a good dub....

>>280450047
Nah, you're correct. Subfags are simply coping and will never face the fact that almost all VAs in Japan sound the same.

>>280450874
I haven't watched it so I have no opinion

This has always been the case.

>>280450394
Best time to start learning Japanese was 20 years ago. The second best time however...

Is there a single dub that gets an actual old man with a deep voice to do old man deep voiced characters instead of having the most faggoty theater kid in the world artificially lower his squeak voice to do it

>[Breaking news] Millions of flies eat shit

>>280451331
FMA

Anime dubs will always be trash because the people they have doing that shit are trash. English voice acting can be good. Disney, Pixar, Dreamworks, etc. They all have great voice acting, but they also have real actors doing the voice acting. And since they're actually professional actors, they can produce actually great voice acting as well. There's a good reason why a lot of animation these days have turned to celebrity voice actors like Steven Yeun, Donald Glover, Jack Black, J.K. Simmons, etc. Big A-list names sell more than some unknown C-list name.

Anime outside of Ghibli movies will never receive this kind of treatment, because companies like Funimation don't have the money to do that. That's why you can always find the same five people in dubs from faggots like Sean Schemmel and Christopher Sabat to rejected actors like Johnny Yong "Power Rangers" Bosch and one-trick ponies like Bryce Papenbrook. And the less we talk about the monotonous, talentless female dub voice actors (like Kira Buckland who's BOTH talentless and ugly as shit), the better.

Also, original voice acting tends to be superior not just in the case of anime but everything else as well. Ever watch dubbed Chinese martial arts movies? Comically poor voice acting. Ever watch foreign dubs of American shows? Hilarious.

>>280450740
Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo, Redline, Space Dandy, and Lupin III part two all have dubs equal to or better than the original. Kill la Kill's dub was decent.

>>280451569
The Disney Ghibli dubs shelled out for real actors and are still all terrible because the direction and scripting is bad

>>280450047

>>280449171 (OP)
>CR and Netflix
I got shiiiills, they're multiplyin'!

>>280449171 (OP)
wat

>>280449295
>>280449667
>>280449326
>>280449415
This. We in the Anime Movement (yes, this is a movement) believe that Nipponese is the best spoken language of all time. Same thing, different language? No thanks, I need the original. You see, Japan is the Land of the Rising Sun, or where samurai were invented. Filthy gaijins (Americans) would never understand the grory and honor of the samurai. That's why anime uses Nipponese: it's to respect and grorify our samurai. Don't like it, go back to watching Nickelodeon, baka (that mean stupid).

>>280449171 (OP)
I was gonna say I don't fucking believe it, but then I remembered this isn't 2006 anymore. What sad times.

>>280451331
Ghibli dubs, still can't stand them though. I saw Mononoke with the senpai recently but it was dubbed and it was really distracting.

>>280449171 (OP)
Can't blame them, modern japanese voice actors all sound the same.

>>280449171 (OP)
I have never seen a dub that uses the same dialogue as the original language, they always change words for whatever fits the mouth flapin, even if that means changing the story completely. fuck dubs.

>>280449295
Thread ended here
>my platform that is seen by people that only watch dubs seems to have more people that watch dubs
Legit the most retarded take I have seen this year, and that says a lot.

>>280449171 (OP)
Normies should only watch dubbed anime. True animefans should watch subbed anime or anime raw in japanese.

>>280456096
I can only watch pasteurized anime

>>280449295
Americans have a major illiteracy problem so I'm not surprised.

>>280449295
Most Americans do not learn how to speed read even if they are literate

>>280451331
Only old dubs and video games. RIP

it's only going to get worse and you'll remember how good we had it

>>280449295
Its true, every dub defender is almost always American. I dont think much Americans even read books much outside of mandatory situations like school

>>280449171 (OP)
>voice :<
>voice, japan :O
why are you faggots like this

>>280449618
>my friend learnt Japanese just so they can multitask while watching anime
No sure if based or unbased.

>>280450787
This, goddamn.
I once called a yurifag a retard and was banned really fast one time.

>>280449295
I can read pretty fast. It's just that I don't really enjoy listening to noise I don't understand. When I am watching something I don't want to be bothered by text either.

>>280456541
My experience in the (private) American school system was to suck all the fun out of reading they possibly could.

I did still read a lot when I was a kid but every single school book was a bunch of braindead wank. Of course I developed a violent revulsion for YA material when I turned 13 so maybe I'm far from a typical person

>>280456570
Extremely based. He invested time now to learn a skill to save time later

>>280456541
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-books-read-per-year-by-country
Americans read more books per year than people in any other country. The United States has the largest publishing industry in the world, and American books are translated and read around the globe.

>Rice farmer speaks in an exaggerated tone and change of pitch uttering nonsensical dialogue that only a sperg would find tolerable
>So sugoi nipponese man, thinks the retarded weeb who believes cheesy stage LARPing in moon runes is the apex of acting
You know you guys could read manga, right? Just put on Jap ASMR in the background, not like most of you even know the language. Or you can say Americans suck and pretend your thirdie dubs are good (they aren’t)

Why do these always devolve into anti American racism
Why don't mods do anything about it

>>280455821
>modern japanese voice actors all sound the same.
Yeah I've noticed this too. They all manage to do the same voice based on character archetype. You can pretty much guess the sound of their voice by just looking at the character.

>>280449819
This. I like some of the older dubs when they hired actual professional voice actors and they fit the personality of the character. It wasn't just 'do your teenager voice like the last 40 animes you dubbed' for every role.
>>280456648
No anon! If you share facts that goes against their vision of America, then they get even angrier!

>>280449171 (OP)
How does this affect you?

>>280456894
Based on this thread, it seems to be making /a/ considerably shittier.

>>280456791
It's typecasting. One Piece is probably the exception for the rule, but most voice actors are 70 yo.

>>280449295
>American never watched anything with subs, their brain can't read that fast
they watch things with subs all the time, but mostly because they can't hear than can't read.

https://preply.com/en/blog/america-still-obsessed-subtitles/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Let people enjoy their media however they want. It's not that hard to understand why some people would prefer dubs to subs. I understand Japanese, so I watch Japanese dubs. However, I also watch films from around the world. When I watch films with subtitles in languages I don't understand, like Korean, Thai, or Italian, the dialogue doesn't hit me the same way as when I watch films in languages I do understand, like English, French, Persian, or Japanese. I don't watch dubs out of principle but I won't rail against those who do. I do think subs provide a very impoverished experience.

Funny how 10 years ago you were still required to hide your pwoerlevel, epecially around normalfags to avoid getting ostracised
now the same normlafaggotry that fored you to hide powerlevels are now enjoying anime due to netflix, and like normalfags do, they pretend to be a fucking specialists. I wonder if they have something like MAL to see what shows they prefer and how much they watch. I would never imagine that I would need a MAL for that

and with normalfags comes poor taste. Majorit of dubbed anime is jsut horrible, mostly because people were thinking that these are cartoons for kids so you had lower tier actors doing dubs. it's nowhere near og jp voices. And i miss fandubs with additional flavours of let's say, coalfucks spicing up text or famous code geass chess move explanation for half of the screen. Let's not forget about competition between groups and shitty horriblesubs subs because of 1:1 crunchyroll rips. And according to odlfags, the final step in becoming true /a/non was learning moonrunes, so you didn't even need subs

what I'm trully afraid of, is if westoid normalfaggotry gonna affect glorious nippon or not. Because if japs start doing anime absed on westoid tastes, then we're trully doomed
and let's drop the veil of sillence on streaming vs raws topic

>>280457101
>epecially around normalfags to avoid getting ostracised
No one ostracized your pathetic weeb ass for watching anime lmao
Stop victimizing yourself. Most normalfags are nice people. They aren't judgmental weirdos like most hardcore weebs.

>>280457141
zoom zoom, try saying that you watched elfen lied or some other non-TV shows that aired like dbz, saint seiya etc
>whaaaa, anon what are you a child? chinnk cartoons lmaoo look at the loooser!
but whatever, "hide your powerlevel no amtter what" wasn't just a le funny meme

>>280449295
The mystery has been solved.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvCT31BOLDM
Just ban all americans to save this board.

>>280449171 (OP)
in brazil this is true but because of that VAs salary went up

>>280449171 (OP)
Fucking normies are coming for our subs.

>>280457141
>>epecially around normalfags to avoid getting ostracised
>No one ostracized your pathetic weeb ass for watching anime lmao
I see irony is completely lost on you.

>>280455821
Well there's only like 12 of them getting reused for every anime.

>>280449295
This and this >>280456188

>>280457197
>40% of kids can't read at a basic level
Well yeah, 40% of Americans are retarded.

>>280457057
I stopped watching english stuff with subs because I bought an OLED and using subs all the time causes burn-in

>>280457249
The thing is normalfags wouldn't have ostracized you for watching Japanese cartoons. You just suffer from self victimization complex.

>>280450115
Good show

>>280457372
why even speak about era you weren't even alive?
>it never happened to me so years of /a/nons testimonies are made up
>>280457254
well, im a filthy ESL myself, but let's not forget those burgers who would post relations from Comiket, various other events and Akihabara before it turned to shit since it was faster to fly to tokyo from west coast than from europe

>>280449171 (OP)
Obviously, more and more people can barely read at all. Let alone read on a timer.

>>280456594
Found the low iq mutt

>>280449618
How many are we talking here?

>>280449295
It's not just a matter of ability to read the subs, it's also that many people will put on a show or a movie while doing something else and barely giving attention to the screen. And then they'll still say they watched it.

>>280457620
>WHY DID X HAPPEN!?
>X DOESN'T MAKE SENSE!
>THIS SHOW DOESN'T EXPLAIN ANYTHING!

wtf i love dubs done by a tiny group of dogshit nepotistic "voice actors" and korean shounenslop nao

>>280449295

>>280449171 (OP)
I don't know what this says as an American I can't read.

That would explain why these services don't give a shit about making even remotely competent subtitles.

>>280450902
And this is a problem how?

It’s very telling that video games are slowly gravitating towards british theater actors than hollywood va slop

>>280456648
>>280456881
>every book is a quality book

>>280457509
Not a low iq take to
I had to watch Bakemonogatari twice per episode becaue the subs do not let me enjoy the animation.

>>280457177
It's only weird if you make it weird.

You guys remember when anime fans cared if a show got a dub just because meant the show was more successful and more people could get into it back when people wanted anime to be popular before the opposite happened now.

>>280450613
>I learned English, Italian and German from watching
LMAO no you didn't.

>>280449295
Thats speed reading
The same as watching as 2x speed
fuck off

>>280457450
>it always happened to me so years of /a/nons testimonies are made up

Today I was at my cousin's birthday party and one of the kids that was there was talking about "ruruni Kenshin, Chainsaw man, and Inuyasha". Netflix is getting all the kids into anime...

>>280449171 (OP)
>suddenly
>anime is mainstream
>japan tourism boom
>everyone loves jap foods
>jap girls are popular
what happened

>>280458581
>>280458652
imagine being this new

>>280458729
America and most other english speaking countries declared animation is for babies* and the industry agreed. So when people were like "man I sure do like animation, is there any that's aimed at an older audience?" and the only answer was anime and things like family guy/rick and morty.

*From what I remember this happened when disney's beauty and the beast was going to win ALL THE AWARDS and to cope they made animation it's own category out of spite. American animation has never recovered from that, and it's why every adult animated series that's not the simpsons and the like are called "anime" despite being american.

Mainstream audiences want animated shows and the only people answering the call is anime.

>>280449295
For me it just depends on the show, i'll see if I like the german, english or japanese voice acting the best and than i'll watch that.
Also Netflix needs to fuck off from anime, they'll ruin it just like everything else they touch

>>280458774
I've always wondered why zoomies always retrospectively impose that before times have always been the same as current year. Is it an age thing?

>>280449171 (OP)
Real anime fans don’t use crunchyroll or netflix anyway

>>280458652
>why yes I was born after 2000 how could you tell?
ZOOOOOOOOOOOM

>>280458729
>>280458847
Unironically culture war shit. It's not just animation but all media. In Japan they made gay media for the gays, tranny media for the trannies, pervy media for the perverts, etc. It was generally accepted creators could make whatever media they wanted for whomever they wanted to. In the West, the (corporate) consensus turned towards everything had to be for everyone in order to capture the largest/most market demographics with the least amount of investment, therefore every game, movie, cartoon, series, what have you all had to be chock full of more tokens than an arcade machine. Then it goes back to the ol' if you make something for everyone, you've made something for no one.

>>280458847
>>280458729
i suspect jews are behind this
>thing, japan :O
phenomenon last 5 years

>>280459020
I see the vision
>instigate global interest in Japanese media
>with global interest comes the big money
>with big money comes Jewish influence
>with Jews come ruination
You're already seeing it with Japanese gaming industry, unfortunately seems like the same might happen to their animation industry within my lifetime

>>280458729
It was always going to happen I've seen the build up for 20 years, who cares anyways at the end of the day.

>>280458729
It was a combination of many things:
>attention from the Olympics
>COVID making people want to travel more
>Yen is fairly cheap right now
>people turning to other forms of media, like anime and manga, because a lot of western media shot itself in the foot too many times
>Japan is actually nice to visit, very clean, nice people, and not filled with criminals very much unlike many other places around the world

>>280458774
>imagine being this new
What?

>>280449171 (OP)
If you watch subs why teh FUCK would you EVER buy anime?

>>280449295
It's actually this.
It's why they put up with dogshit 4kidz dubs and still prefer them over the originals
Nostalgia? helluva drug

>>280457782
I have family members like this and I can't fucking imagine how they manage to make complex tasks and execute them when they can't follow the plot of a 20 minute soap opera.

>>280459174
read
>>280459020
>>280459098
japan is strangely overhyped as fuck by the western media recently

>>280449171 (OP)
>Netflix
>watched a miyazaki movie over a half year ago
>YOU'RE TOTALLY AN ANIME WATCHER!

>>280459334
Well technically he's right...

>>280458879
Are those zoomers that are always trying to retrospectively impose that before times have always been the same as current year in the room with us right now?

>>280459447
it's worse than that
>watched castlevania's series over a half year ago
>YOU'RE TOTALLY AN ANIME WATCHER!

>>280449295
Pretty much the most common explanation I’ve heard from people who say why they watch dubs.

>>280458600
I remember being excited for a show getting a licensed release because it meant we'd get better quality rips and official subs. I can not believe the garbage video quality I used to put up with. All those awful .RM Ranma episodes I downloaded off Livewire before I found a proper torrent site disgust me now.

>>280459331
Not really because what are the alternatives for Asia? South Korea for its dramas and pop music? I think thats the closest to Japan in terms of the size of its pop culture influence in Asia.
If you want to go into conspiracy theory teritory about how Japan is one of the few homogenized cultures left of its size and power, and how big bad guys ruling the world don't like that, then sure you can take that route. But I think the simpler explanation is they are making good products (for the most part) and cater to their strong IPs like Dragon Ball, One Piece, etc. Meanwhile a lot of others are going 'how do we ensure global profits while including DEI efforts' because they are so disconnected from reality it is insane. Go look at video games and movies to see how insane it all is. It is like they live in another world, like who are these movies and games made for? Japan products usually cater to Japanese people. I hope it stays that way forever. I am speaking in generalities of course.

>>280459978
The reason that they can good products is because of their homogenized culture. You are missing the forest for the trees.

>>280450239
I'm convinced that's how shit like Sandman and Rings of Power get most of their views.

>>280460152
Yeah I agree with that. I never said the opposite. I think its fair to say again that other media not being as good is helping highlight how good Japanese media is. And I am talking generalities again, because I am currently critical on some Japanese companies, like Nintendo and Bandai, for getting away with crap that their fan bases shouldn't be allowing for. Thats a whole other can of worms though.

>>280449359
I'll watch a dub if the series takes place in America, like Baccano, but the amount of good dubs are an extreme minority. The amount of dubs that surpass the original can probably be counted on one hand.

>>280460274
>like Nintendo and Bandai, for getting away with crap that their fan bases shouldn't be allowing for
Put me up to speed I'm not clued in to what is happening in /v/.

>>280457782
My friend was like this when we were watching the first season of GoT. We had to pause like every 10 minutes to explain it while he was scrolling through twitter.

>>280460385
If you didn't grab his phone and smashed it to the floor you have no reason complain.

>>280450394
Just learn them???

>>280458904
This is it.

>>280449171 (OP)
Well sure when my dad watched Frieren and Vinland Saga on Netflix he watched them dubbed, I don't think he'd consider himself an anime fan even though he enjoyed them.
It's just that there is a variety of shows on Netflix he and Mum watch so they just watch them all in English. He also watched some live action Vampire show from Turkey dubbed in English, it's just what they default to without consideration.

>>280449171 (OP)
Are these /v/eddit culture war outrage threads really necessary? I find they attract people who don't really have genuine interests and even worse normalfag tastes than the people they complain about.

>>280450613
I noticed how you said you haven't learn Japanese, because you know it's impossible.
t. watched subs for 15 years before I sucked it up and started studying Japanese for real

>>280450613
Pretty much everything I've heard about input hypothesis suggests translated subtitles sabotage the language learning value (unless used very tactically) and if you want results you should watch untranslated either with no subs or with target language subs.

>>280461356
You can pick up a lot of words and it speeds up the learning process.
He probably learned those other languages in school (likely in former Yugoslavia).
The thing with Japanese is that it makes a lot more sense when you see it written whereas German and Italian have a more intuitive orthography.

>>280449171 (OP)
>a weeb means
>20 years ago
>a diehard Japanophile who wants to be japanese
>10 years ago
>a soft Japanophile who uses jap words irl
>5 years ago
>a person who watches anime
>now
>nobody uses the word anymore because everyone watches anime anyway

>>280449171 (OP)
Dubfags are bandwagoner casuals, weak and shallow.

>>280449667
>A shame, because no matter how good the dub, almost a 100% of the time the original voices are better.
Yeah no. No matter if it's video games, shows, movies and so on, you can have a 10/10 or even (but that's much rarer) 11/10 dub if you find the proper people with the proper voices.
While I am for the original Japanese dub, I don't mind a show dubbed as long as the people doing the dub have the right voices and actually put effort into it. If that happens then the dub can be actually better than the original.

There is the problem though. It's very rarely done to the point it might very well be non-existent.

>>280449171 (OP)
This is a dub board

>>280463264
They should make a board for dubbed anime and manga so all those /v/ermin can discuss their beloved Cowboy Bebop in peace.

>>280460317
/v/ermins (or Video game fanbase) are a bunch of dumbasses who fell for bait and switch from Chinese, Japanese, Korean company and even Western game over and over and over again despite them claiming to always "getting what they want" from videogame industry.

>>280463947
Nowadays they always feel the need to have a "champion" who would save them (Which is why you always see many company apologists whenever they fucked up especially Gooks and Chink companies) instead of just saying fuck you to the entire industry and doing what they used to preach before, playing old video games

>>280449295
I've noticed subs are practically unwatchable in people without internal monologues, they have to sound each word out because they do not process it at speed of thought.

>>280449171 (OP)
Watched Solo Leveling in the Korean dub. Such a disgusting language to listen to.

>>280464229
Why is it so retarded? It sounds as if a little kid made up a language.

Hearing new dubs makes you realise that the dubs we all used to rag on 15-20 years ago actually aren't that bad. Some are actually pretty good.
Black Lagoon immediately comes to mind, and I put the dub on the same entertainment level as the original.
Lucky Star and Haruhi also have dubs I don't particularly hate. Though I'm pretty partial to anything with Stephanie Sheh and Johnny Yong Bosch in it.

Used to love hearing news that a series was getting a dub because it usually meant there'd be a DVD release I could buy. Now it's becoming increasingly stranger for a series not to get dubbed while airing. How the times change.

>>280449171 (OP)
Kyoani this faggot company, save anime.

>>280456594
Imbecile.

>>280449171 (OP)
dub fags are normies and confirmed ruined animes.

>>280464220
What kind of inbreed sub-humans are these meat bags without an inner monologue? Do their brains even work? They're just guided by instinct, like animals. The next COVID can't come fast enough

>>280460152
>>280459978
Japan isn't homogenized in the slightest lol, it was compromised of multiple ethnic groups that warred with each other for centuries until it was declared as a monoculture after WWII.

>>280455598
i agree unironically. seeing that netflicks original cartoons are all woke cancer.

bro watches his cartoons subbed bro watching that aaahh kimochio ahhh senpai shit I'm dead bro bro watching subs lowkey on those pedo vibes bro

>>280464462
Spoken like a true Hokkaido man.

>>280449171 (OP)
>"anime watchers are the minority"
>minority
>anime watchers are minorities
GOOD MORNING SAARS LET US REDEEM THE ANIME

>>280450047
i rather listen to taiwanese dubbed by 1 middle aged man like in Thunderbolt Fantasy than shitdubs from USA.

it's not just the vocal DIVERSITY. they always translate them wrong and hire the worst people who hate anime and nippon culture.

>>280464497
OHAYOU GOZAIMASU MINA-SAMA BLOODY BENCHODES DO NOT REDEEM THE DUBS

>>280464481
Speak like a human, inner-monologue lacking zoomer

>>280464462
Shitters living in huts like the Ainu aren't a culture. Lmao

>>280461544
>20 years ago
Your zoomer word didn't even exist back then.

>>280449229
BASED

Japanese is a low IQ language.

>>280449171 (OP)
That's because sub watchers aren't paying for Crunchyroll, they're downloading rips.

>dubs
Kek

>>280449171 (OP)
>https://animecorner.me/crunchyroll-netflix-confirm-anime-sub-watchers-are-the-minority-on-their-platforms/
>Crunchyroll & Now Netflix Both Confirm Anime Sub Watchers Are the Minority
Dubchad we won!

>>280456541
The last time I heard of an American reading a book John Lennon died

>>280456631
“Background noise” users are subhuman

>>280449295
based imagine prefering that forced english scream than those legendary japanese anime VA

>>280449171 (OP)
It's so over for this hobby

>>280449295
>American never watched anything with subs, their brain can't read that fast
Explain their K-drama obsession then!

>>280449295
not only they're illiterate, there's also ATTENTION SPAN CRISIS where people like MULTI-TASKING, which means treating Anime like a Radio. they LISTEN instead of WATCH.

>>280449469
>Problem is that they got even worse somehow.
How? The really bad dubs are the ones done in Miami or in Hong Kong or Singapore.

>>280451569
>Ever watch foreign dubs of American shows? Hilarious
I watched Avengers with JP dub. it's full of talented A-list seiyuu like Sugita. it was atrocious. OG voice is always better.

>>280464777
the word weeaboo / wapanese existed when I was in middle school. so around 15-17 years ago. i don't know how was it in USA, but in my country, weeaboo used to mean someone who's obsessed with becoming a "foreigner", not just japanese. wapanese is the equivalent to modern-day "weeaboo"

>>280450251
This is a correct take. It has always been the case.
I remember back in the 90s, one of the American distributors mentioned at a convention that something like 80-90% of their VHS tape sales were dubbed English instead of the more expensive subbed version.
At the time, some people wrote it off to, "Oh, it must be the price then," when really, most people who don't know the language just prefer dubs.

Based Americans.

>>280461313
Did you know Australians that use 4chan are on a singular discord where they constantly fight with each other and plot to shit up the website? Hard to believe but true, I was friends with an aussie from here for awhile and got to know a few of them. A lot of them are extremely mentally ill and gay too.

>>280466094
Weeaboo replaced wapanese mainly because the 4chan word filter used to change any instance of wapanese to weeaboo. This was back in 2005 iirc.

>>280466246
so it was all 4chan's fault all over again. fuck moot.

KILL ALL DUBBERS

>>280466589
>4chan users hate dubs now
it's over, newfags killed this site, also check my 7

>>280466635
>now
since 2004

>>280456541
The biggest dub defenders I've seen are South Americans who insist that their dubs were actually good.

>>280449171 (OP)
To the surprise of no-one, normalfags have shit tastes.

>>280449295
lol

>>280449229
>>280465464
Hey why are you replying to yourself?

>>280449295
SPBP
>>280464455
I've been able to daydream elaborate scenarios since before I even hit puberty, and that hasn't faded yet in my 20s. Not having an inner monologue sounds genuinely horrifying to me.

>>280449920
Draw fingers where they don't belong? Absolutely.

>>280457313
The subs are only on screen momentarily... they would never burn in anon. They would have to be up on the screen for literal days for it to occur.

>>280466221
There's a reason one of the banners is Moot saying "I hate Australians so goddamned much".

No shit? Anime fans only watch subbed stuff, and they never used crunchyroll nor will they ever use it
Normies don't count

>>280468925
>the people who keep the anime industry alive "don't count"
brownoids are addicted to piracy, very obsessed and mindbroken. humiliation ritual reply incoming (guaranteed) you lost

>>280469009
>implying crunchyroll and other services count as supporting the industry and keeping it alive
lol, lmao even

>>280469041
Yes. Whether you like it or not.

>>280469126
You will never be a real anime fan

>>280469153
Your favourite anime will never win an AOTY award.

>>280469181
That's because I don't watch mainstream shit

>>280449171 (OP)
That's because people with a brain that watched subbed anime stopped watching anime recently because of the poor quality of it.
I've been struggling to watch any lately. It's just so shit looking. I might as well watch western cartoons.

I was watching "Common Side Effects" the other day. How does Adult Swim have better, prettier animation than Japanese shit now?
This should not be.

Something has gone terribly wrong with the industry and it's beyond slop and verging on "not even slop".

>>280466221
I am Aus, I don't use this.
What is this shit?

How do I join?

>>280449171 (OP)
it's literally this, survivorship bias
people who use these services do not do it to watch subs
Be honest with me, how many /a/nons just torrent anime anyway even if they have a Netflix subscription?

>>280449171 (OP)
I was sub, but I pause it for every sentence.

>>280465862
Is that actually a thing there. And no watching squid game doesnt count

>>280470334
>>280449295

>>280449171 (OP)
In rare cases, the english dub is better than the japanese ones. Good example of this is the dub done on Hachisuka in MHA Vigilantes.

God, her dubber made her so hot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-AWOkyQd-E

>>280449295
FPBP

>>280470950
Knuckleduster is incredible too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11lObI2VAmg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HzOJsEh4fk

>>280449295
I personally prefer to hear a single emotionally dead Russian man speak over every character.

>>280471372
Oh yeah him too. Cried when he said "I'm here" on the hospital scene with his daughter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RaThPjm-A8

The gruff the dubber did for his voice is just the perfect amount.