>I-IS THIS A CUTE SHY GIRL WHO IS MADLY IN LOVE WITH ME???? AIEEEEEEE SAVE MEEEE I WANT MY TSUNDERE CUNT WHO MADE ME HATE MY LIFE BACK

>>280512821 (OP)
Try actually watching anime instead of having AI summarize the plot for you.

Try actually watching the movie instead of reading a plot summary.

That's EXACTLY what happened OP

Kyon is for Yuki

Yuk Nagat

>>280512821 (OP)
I started watching this yesterday and I find irritating how fast the protagonist monologues.

>>280515157
kyon is gay

OP's only error is that Haruhi isn't tsundere, she's just a cunt.

>>280515895
>just a cunt
>He did not read the books

>>280515836
How can you hate Sugita's voice? It's so sexy, no homo.

>>280516021
>books
Anime board

>>280515836
It’s his internal monologues from the novels. It’s not as bad as Monogatari where you have to pause and go back to read subtitles and flashing text.

>>280512821 (OP)
I watched this before I watched the show, and it honestly made the show unwatchable for me
The film was peak
The show was just, unappealing, and the character I hated the most was Haruhi, while Nagato was my favorite

The disappearance of Nagato is like watching someone you love getting raped. Just release season 3 already you fucks. No hate towards Nagato, she cute.

>>280516198
Kyoani has a new cash cow

What if Kyon impregnated the alien communication interface?

>>280515836
>>280516081
huh? it's not fast at all and Monogatari, too, is definitely not the case of an extremely fast speech that would require re-reading. is it your first time *reading*?
the only anime that i could think of in which that would be the case is Occultic;Nine

>>280516180
>I watched this before I watched the show
>The film was peak
>The show was just, unappealing
They should bring back lobotomy because there is no helping retards like you anymore

>>280513675
>>280512845
He didn't say anything wrong tho

>>280512845
Try not being a masochist piece of shit

>>280512845
FIPPY BIPPY
OP BTFO

>>280515802
>>280516169
look at how many pixels my wife gets for her images.
she can have them all

>>280512821 (OP)
>WHO MADE ME HATE MY LIFE BACK
might want to watch the whole series again if you missed the point of the movie THIS hard, holy shit.

>>280516737
Saying Kyon hated his life with Haruhi and the SOS Brigade goes against the fucking climax of the movie.

>>280512821 (OP)
The heart wants what it wants.

Iit's a shame how the previous Haruhi thread died when it only needed 50 replies more to reach bump limit.

Kyon is just a tsundere, but only towards Haruhi and, to a lesser extent, Koizumi.

One of my favourite things is finding parallels between Haruhi & Koizumi, and Kyon & Mikuru.

It's not very nice to indirectly tell a girl that a construct made from her wish to be somebody else is preferable to her real personality, even if she is an alien computer.

>>280518766
you would think this is an obvious thing, especially after the rooftop scene.
but some people severely lack empathy it seems, or whatever the reason that it's too hard for them to understand something that is not stated explicitly in the script about a character(s)' feelings

>>280519072
>empathy
Reminder that in its current form empathy is a meme word invented by a CIA-controlled Reader's Digest (Legacy of Ashes, p. 77).
>In the flurry of experimental studies of empathy that followed, psychologists began to differentiate “true” empathy, defined as the accurate appraisal of another’s thoughts or feelings, from what they called “projection.” In 1955, Reader’s Digest defined the term, which was new to the public outside of academia, as the “ability to appreciate the other person’s feelings without yourself becoming so emotionally involved that your judgment is affected.”
>https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2015/10/a-short-history-of-empathy/409912/

In fact, its original meaning was basically the opposite:
https://yalebooks.yale.edu/2018/11/21/the-origin-of-empathy/
>The English term “empathy,” in fact, was coined only in 1908. English-speaking psychologists needed translations of the German scientific terms appearing in the new discipline of experimental psychology. By around 1913, “empathy” became the term of choice for the German Einfühlung, which literally means “in-feeling.” Empathy captured the ability to project one’s own inner strivings, movements, and feelings into the shapes of objects. In the early twentieth century, then, empathy was quintessentially an aesthetic impulse.

>>280512845
fpbp

>>280519277
>Reminder
thanks but what does that have to do with anything?
what i wanted to say is evident due to the context

>>280519498
I just wanted to include some context about certain meme words used here, that's all.

Kyon likes Haruhi because she made his life fun, he's just in denial about it.

>>280519277
Huh, fascinating

>>280512821 (OP)
Shy submissive girls are not attractive. Even less so when you consider they will immediately cheat on you if you nurture their self esteem in any way. I can't think of a more unhealthy relationship.

>>280518766
>>280519072
Yuki was definetly unhappy and miserable, Mikiru was only happy on retrospective, Koizumi is forced to spend his whole life pretending to be someone else, Kyon pretended to be miserable all the time and Haruhi was an ungrateful whining bitch in both universes. Yuki created a universe in which all of them could be happy if they chose to. She didn't even force herself onto Kyon, she merely hoped he would look for her voluntarily.

The thing that makes people angry is that Kyon threw all that away for Haruhi's sake only.
>but that wasn't the real Nagato!
There is no "real" Nagato, she exists only due to Haruhi's will and her entire existence revolves around Haruhi. She willingly chose a world in which she was an actual individual with her own personality, her own feelings and in which she had free will. That Nagato is as much of a construct as the "original" one but at least she has free will.

Kyon took that away from her because Haruhi and himself were bored. What a tool.

new seasons never

>>280520765
Wait for the 25th LN anniversary. Trust the plan.

>>280520599
That only happens if there was nothing good about you to begin with to the point anyone that was kind to her could have done the trick.

>>280519277
The CIA was created in 1947, you're a retard.

>>280512821 (OP)
Yuki's biggest mistake is not having a ponytail and making her ideal world version of Haruhi wear a ponytail in front of Kyon.

>>280512821 (OP)
Mikuru did the hajidere thing better, and he ruined his chances with her spectacularly by sperging out at her and Tsuruya at the beginning. Disappearance Yuki was as bland as usual, just dweebier.

>>280512821 (OP)
>yukifags still mad

>>280519582
> Kyon likes Haruhi because she made his life fun, he's just in denial about it.
This is scientifically speaking the correct answer.
https://youtu.be/pInk1rV2VEg?si=pGa0xe-UwoxuMozJ

>>280521454
Kyon was freaking out for 90 % of the movie. The only moments he was calm was whenever he was with Yuki but instead of reflecting on himself and his actions he was thinking with his dick "what if I stay here and she becomes my cute gf?" When in reality it was more about Yuki being an absolutely miserable person in the normal world whose entire existence revolved around Haruhi.

Kyon was incredibly selfish. At the end Yuki doesn't even have the choice of hating or resenting him or Haruhi because she is forced to stay close to them.

>>280521512
It's white like snow

>>280512821 (OP)
>cute shy girl who is madly in love with me
Abort. Abort. That is your mother. Do not stick your dick inside your mother!

>>280520964
>In 1955, Reader’s Digest defined the term
>1955
What point are you trying to make? By the way, I encourage you to read the cited work before you reply any further. I even mentioned the page, for fuck's sake.

>>280521532
I still love this version the best.

>>280522209
Yuki must smell so good

>>280512821 (OP)
I need a Yuki gf

>>280517332
Kek

>>280516582
>Occultic;Nine
How fast it is compared to Tatami Galaxy?

>>280524556
>occultic nine

>>280524556
What do you expect me to tell you? Count the words-per-second ratio? Just check it out for yourself.
In tatami galaxy the main character says a whole lot of nothing fast and it's not too hard to process.
In occultic;nine voice actors are speedrunning the script to cram in as much info from the light novel as possible in the shortest possible amount of time

>>280520744
>The thing that makes people angry is that Kyon threw all that away for Haruhi's sake only.
Who says it's *only* for Haruhi's sake? Kyon clearly cares about Nagato and his decision is partially influenced by his desire to help her out in not-the-dream version of reality. Even though you say-
>There is no "real" Nagato, she exists only due to Haruhi's will and her entire existence revolves around Haruhi.
Being an "alien" does not entail being emotionally non-developed, just like being a time-traveler does not automatically make you retarded and being an esper does not turn you gay. By your logic, none of these characters are fucking "real", because Haruhi.
>She willingly chose a world in which she was an actual individual with her own personality, her own feelings and in which she had free will.
Maybe save for the "free will" bit, all of that is present in the original world and you simply missed the point of her character if you don't realize that.
>That Nagato is as much of a construct as the "original" one but at least she has free will.
Kyon does retain his memories of the previous world and the original Nagato is aware of the idea of her other version. Things like that is what makes up what is "real" and "right", at the end of the day.

>>280512845
fpbp

>>280512821 (OP)
tard

>>280515836
I think it's the other way around, Kyon being fast makes his monologues way better, they feel more realistic and chaotic

>>280516071
Anime or not, Haruhi is more genki than anything else. Even in the anime you can see her getting way better.

>>280520813
Do you have any idea how many plans I've trusted

>>280522935
My mother is only one of those things, and arguably at that

>>280528266
don't be a motherfucker anon

>>280523073
Haven't seen a card crusher meme in forever.

>>280524661
ultra-c-cup;nine

>>280520744
You do realize that wanting to make yourself be an actual individual, with an actual personality and feelings because you were miserable and unhappy is an oxymoron right?

The whole point is that she does already have all of those things in the original world, it was just that because she wasnt ever created with her developing those things in mind that causes this, which caused her to inevitably become miserable because she struggled to feel happiness at any consistent basis, and instead kept finding herself bored, tired, miserable, angry even, whilst the things she became attached to away from her arms reach.

But the thing is her alternate self didnt merely address those points that made her miserable and thats that, she was a completely different person with a complete different personality, desires and memories than her original self, and the reason for that is because Nagato created the alternate world along the same principles that led he to creating a version of Asakura that almost killed Kyon.

And those principles were based on Haruhis stolen powers taking her general wishes (create a world where I can live a normal life, in which I will never be hurt again, and where Kyon will be provided with the opportunity to make his own choice on what world he prefers), and making them come true in a roundabout, monkeys paw way. We know this because Nagato herself had stated that she was aberrant at this point, and literally right after she was restored to normal in the prologue to Intrigues, she was acting as good-behavior interface, requesting her future self synchronize as standard procedure, and of course because it is the only way she would ever allow an Asakura that is willing to kill other people, especially those she cares about.

So no, undoing the alternate world wasnt undoing her wish, it was making sure her wish actually was fulfilled properly, because it is very clear that the she resisted with her mind, but was pushed emotionally.

>>280527137
If Haruhi wakes up one day thinking "aliens don't exist, they're dumb" then Yuki stops existing altogether and nobody would remember her, just like how she erased the future for over 500 years.

Kyon retains his memories of the previous world because Yuki willed it so. She lacks human emotions and didn't know how to process what she was feeling, so she trusted Kyon to make the right decision at the end for her. If creating a world on which everyone can be happy and she isn't an unfeeling machine whose entire existence revolves around Haruhi, Kyon would be there as a failsafe to correct the mistake.

Except that wasn't a mistake and Kyon, the selfish bastard, didn't even consider that. All he said was "well, Haruhi is bored and so am I so let's go back."
>>280532805
The past version of Yuki, the one that called her version with feelings an error, hadn't yet developed feelings and her own personality. Taking her at face value is foolish.

Also,
>if she made a new world it means she always had free will
That's as absurd as saying that a prisoner that escaped prison was always free.

>>280533162
I thought so too, for a while, until I realized that Nagato said the exact same thing during the rooftop scene, and in Intrigues considered her creation of the alternate world as her causing problems.

Here is the part from the rooftop scene in question.


“ Even if I had told you, once I became aberrant, I would have erased your memories regarding the incident and still altered the world.

Additionally, there is no guarantee that I did not indeed do that.

I could only guarantee that you would keep as much of your original state as possible when the th arrived.”

“ There is no guarantee that I will not develop anomalous behavior again in the future.

As long as I continue to exist here, errors within me will continue to accumulate.

It is a dangerous possibility.”

Wow this film really serves as filter to see who can actually put 2 and 2 together

>>280533644
Yep. Kyonfags are truly hopeless.