There's a lot of terminology that was commonplace among anime otaku that seems forgotten nowadays, specifically referencing aesthetic choices or visual tropes
>Dezaki sea
>Postcard memories
>SHAFT tilt
>Yutapon cubes
>Gainax bounce / Gainaxing
>Inazuma kick
>YAS-waist
>Tomino shock / Gundam negative
What else am I forgetting?

Sounds reddit to me though

>>280521602 (OP)
Not sure, I forgot.

>>280521633
It's closer to Something Awful

>>280521602 (OP)
Inazuma Kick is just Rider Kick though.
>Postcard memories
I've always hated this one, isn't there a better term for this?

>>280521716
>Inazuma Kick is just Rider Kick though
Yeah but it was popularized in anime, especially among Western fans, via Gunbuster
>isn't there a better term for this?
In Japanese it's called 止め絵 (tomee), literally "picture-stopper" or "image that halts the movement".
I don't know why in the West it became Postcard Memories

>>280521602 (OP)
Hammerspace

>>280521716
They're also called harmony cels by collectors. I think postcard memories gives them a stronger sense of melancholy and nostalgia personally.

>>280521602 (OP)
>Loli

>>280521881
That's a good one

>>280521602 (OP)
Itano circus

>>280522043
Fuck I now remember a lot of [animator] [thing]
>Umakoshi eye
>Kanada dragon
>Ebata walk
>Obari punch
>Hisashi punch
>Kutsuna lightning

>>280522043
The greatest

The real answer is that 90% of otaku terminology (including otaku itself, mind you) is now outdated due to shifting cultural slang/demographics for anime marketing. Shows are no longer "ecchi", they're "gooner"; batches of 12 episodes are no longer "cours", they're individual "seasons" etc.

>>280521602 (OP)
Listing some random words that you found on tv trope doesn't make you an oldfag anon.

>>280522158
how do you know those are on tvtropes unless you're a tropefag?

GAR
Obari Pose
Gunbuster Pose

>>280522154
>batches of 12 episodes are no longer "cours", they're individual "seasons" etc.
interesting you say that; seasons were the only lingo for a good while here; i only started seeing the term "cour" late last decade.

>>280521602 (OP)
SHAFT tilt still gets mentioned here semi-regularly

Do modern anime "fans" not know what the shaft head tilt is?

>>280522173
>Obari Pose
Wasn't Brave Pose / Brave Perspective more common?

>>280522173
I have not heard the term GAR in years, it was posted so much back then.

>>280522240
GAR however isn't really an anime visual term
It's like glomping, a term very specifically limited to Western (American) fandom

>>280522240
the last time i saw it in common usage, biscuit hammer was an ongoing manga.

>>280522177
I remember cour was absolutely the more common term when I was at my most active here/watching anime (around 2009-2013). Possibly fell out of use then came back?

Very /a/ specific but QUALITY used to be fucking everywhere and I totally forgot it was ever a joke until reading this thread.

>>280522273
>biscuit hammer manga ended 15 years ago

What do you call the assuring hand on the shoulder to say something passive aggressive/condescending trope?

>>280522281
>QUALITY used to be fucking everywhere
I remember when we used to have what was basically a QUALITY general every day

>>280522281
Around 2010 you had a lot of series airing split cours so people adapted the Japanese notion of perceiving each cour of a series on its own. Additionally cours is a decent measurement for the length of a series.
Season as a concept isn't clearly defined and it gets used in many different ways.

>>280522281
QUALITY i remember disappearing and then coming back for the prevalence modern corner-cutting scenes. there are a few dead-and-revived terms. the big one i noticed was the o.

first people spelled the long o like anything else. choji.
then you had chouji, or gigaweebs doing chōji.
then we all realized that was stupid, and went back to choji.

>>280522357
prevalence of* derp

>>280522304
It's a lesser kabedon

>>280522357
What was the last true QUALITY anime series on par with the legends of old?
Ex-Arms?

>>280521602 (OP)
Kogawa chin

>>280522357
Double vowels is a good one. I still call her Ryuuko, apparently Ryuko is more common now though.

This thread reeks of old fart.

>>280521602 (OP)
Gendo pose?

>>280523749
But it's still alive and well in the current year

>>280521602 (OP)
Itano circus

>>280522357
>first people spelled the long o like anything else. choji.
>then you had chouji, or gigaweebs doing chōji.
>then we all realized that was stupid, and went back to choji.
Most nips don't give a shit and use single vowels too
>>280522425
Hoshi no Samidare

>>280521602 (OP)
Why is the shaft tilt on here?

>>280522425
>series
No idea, but I immediatly remembered that one broadcast episode of Märchen Mädchen lmao.

>>280521602 (OP)
Yutapon cubes are still getting used. I don't see why that term would die. A lot of those others on your list are sort of dead because they aren't used anymore.

>>280522216
It was only called Obari Pose in the west. In Japan it's called Brave Perspective/Pose

>>280525581
I don't see the term often. I mostly see people just say cubes.

Very educational thread

>>280525581
>>280526813
I think with My Hero Academia becoming insanely popular in the west, everyone became aware of "the cubes" but most don't know who Yutapon is. It's just a meme at this point, "when the animation becomes minecraft you know shit is gettin real :skull:"

>>280526813
It's a strange story.
The use of this specific term is kinda bizarre: using cubes to represent kinetic destruction as existed since 1965 as far as I know, as seen in this cut by Yasuo Otsuka
>https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/218840
Just a quick comparison with Nakamura, look at 14 seconds here:
>https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/203289
It's almost the same animation, and there are countless examples in between; the main reason, I believe, for Nakamura to become the namesake of this specific style was due to the coincidental birth of the mass social media around 2007-2012 and his rise as arguably the most notable action animator of the last fifteen years, which made so that his cuts became so shared that people associated the cubes with him directly.
For about ten years you only read Yutapon Cubes, but I would say that this has chenged with the advent of the new generation of younger animators, whom had Nakamura as an example and were born in a post-social media world, so they saw the cubes as an inherent part of action animation and incorporated into their style without thinking.
Nowadays the cubes are noted but are less commonly referred as Yutapon, which is almost comical seeing that he wasn't the creator of that tecnique in the first place.

>>280529487
As an /ic/fag it's just easier to draw cubes rather than actual rubble and every artist learns them

>>280521602 (OP)
>>SHAFT tilt
I hate this shit so much

>>280530053

>>280529911
Sure, it's just interesting that the term that became commonplace for more than a decade for a specific animation technique is named after someone who was born after the tecnique was already in use, and by the time he became an animator it has been used for decades

>>280522357
Double vowels are the only reasonable choice. Just because Americans can't into short vowels, it doesn't mean you should gimp the romanization to make it harder to tell the difference between names like Kotarou and Koutarou.

>>280521602 (OP)
GAR

>>280521602 (OP)
Bump for cultural transmission.

>>280522043
I'm happy that this trope is still around

>>280521602 (OP)
What's YAS-waist?

>>280537892
It's a reference to ヤスヒ腰
YAS is Yasuhiko Yoshikazu, chara designer of the OG Gundam
He used a very distinctive contrapposto, a classical proportion tecnique where the body stands with most of its weight on one foot, so that its shoulders and arms twist off-axis from the hips and legs in the axial plane.
His contrapposto was very forward balanced, giving characters in standing an almost twisting pose
If you watch OG Gundam when characters turn and twist is VERY noticeable how much their weight shifts due to this chara design
It was quite influential back in the day

>>280538486
Now that I see it this really bothers me, looks like his knees are broken

>>280538529
It's pretty funny once you notice

Gap moe was mentioned every now and then. In chan fetishspeak there's also vaginabones,ass-fangs

>>280538907
>Gap moe
This is very rare on english boards while to this day is used all the time in JP

I wonder if there's a term for the way strong light sources have a sort of blur around them in older works. Sort of looks like this but it really shines with lasers and lightning.

>>280539202
Dd they just cute a hole in the cell and shine a light?

>>280539202
There are a lot of different ways in cell animation to make light/glowing effect.
One method is >>280539234, but the example is you posted is underlightning/ Bipack Glow, where basically there are two layers, the one with the glowing effect that is only drawn where the light is and left dark, and the one with the character (in this case) that is later put on top and then filmed with a backlight
There's a good explanation here
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zou_t-wmgZI&ab_channel=APLattanzi

>>280521602 (OP)
I think femboy is replacing trap?
Most nowadays can't tell dere types apart and only know yandere.
Moe is becoming even rarer.

>>280521716
>>280521841
They're called harmony because of how they're colored.

>>280538529
>>280538781
The humans in OG Gundam are all descended from birds.

>>280522131
Half of these are just dumb neo sakuga buta westoid nonsense. The only real ones are Itano circus, Kaneda dragon and Obari punch.

>>280539511
Oh, and relative to moe. gap moe is almost never brought up, even when it's a reason a design or character is endearing.

>>280521665
Some of that's closer to rec.arts.anime.

>>280539680
>rec.arts.anime.
Good old days

>>280539613
Whats the Kaneda Dragon? Is stuff like the crotch flip and that right in your face single frame crotch twist even used by others other than Obari?

>>280540345
The KANADA dragon refers to a specific way to draw a flaming stream of flames moving like a dragon of liquid energy
It's based on this
>https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/271984
specific scene from Genma Taisen animated by legendary animator Yoshinori Kanada.
There are infinite examples and tributes in too many anime to count

>>280522189
Considering that Yofukashi 2 is airing right now, no.

>>280539660
I still see gap moe in subs

>>280540573
I wonder if solar flares came first. Is Genma worth a watch? Not a lot of the classics-for-technical-reasons i've seen have been any decent as a whole.

>>280539511
I go out of my way to use trap because of this.

>>280541237
The writing is nonsense-soup, but visually is very cool, with an all-star staff
>classics-for-technical-reasons i've seen have been any decent as a whole
Keep in mind that older anime had a totally different view of what good, technical animation was.
The modern school of sakuga is totally different of what the older generation saw as good.

>>280541358
It doesn't make sense to replace one word with something that has a different meaning.

>>280541897
I remember fifteen or so years ago I was reading an article on Cracked.com (lmao what a trip) about some trans and their life
And I remember how their said that "trap" was common slang where they lived, referring to male trans that looked like attractive women, and he didn't like it, he felt like it implied he was deceiving people
Maybe nowadays people changed to femboy because trap may have negative connotations in that sense?

>>280539680
Okay, I thought I was an oldfag, but I was still in elementary school using AOL during the usenet era.

>>280542183
I thought that was the reason, but anime should work differently. If a character is designed to make you think it's a girl and later reveal it was a boy, that's a very accurate term.

>>280542183
Yes, that's exactly how it started. Trap was declared a slur so normalfags completely stopped using it. Since then the replacement f*mboy has had its definition broadened to be the "safe" term for basically any attractive male that isn't a caricature of masculinity. It's even used for cute teenage boys and younger who have no feminine features whatsoever to tacitly avoid the implication that their cuteness is due to their youth.

>>280542452
>>280542183
You fags sure know a lot about tranny vernacular

>>280542520
>You fags
Hey fuck you
Cracked.com back in the day had a lot of great writers
I'd rather pick up knowledge of tranny vernacular while reading good shit than remain ignorant
No culture gained is bad culture
It's up to you to decide what to believe and what to do with it
https://www.cracked.com/blog/6-harsh-truths-that-will-make-you-better-person

>>280521602 (OP)
Know all of these except Dezaki sea, Inazuma kick, and Tomino shock. I don't remember hearing Yutapon cubes described as such. I always called them Nakamura cubes or included them under a broader category of Nakamura sakuga.
If the others are being forgotten, especially SHAFT tilt, then I'd be honestly surprised. It's not like Monogatari is from the 80's, and Off and Monster Season finished less than a year ago.
It wouldn't surprise me if Gainax bounce was forgotten because fanservice has become so ubiquitous.

>>280522304
Is that even anime trope

>>280542520
Its just fetish terminology if you don't view it through the gender identity lense.

>>280542520
Nothing I described is a secret. It's plainly obvious if you've ever seen how normalfags talk about traps, shotas, and bishies.

>>280542520
Considering how much tranny culture is just a cargo cult copy of 4chan shit? Why not?

Kanada light flare, or Kanada lightning. Trigger's favorite technique.

>>280521602 (OP)
I've been here since 2008, and I only know what SHAFT tilt meme is. I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

>>280521602 (OP)
>Gundam negative
I always heard this called the Newtype dimension or the watercolor dimension

>>280522357
I’m reminded of this. Personally I don’t mind longer vowel sounds since it helps me remember how things are pronounced, hearing joTARo as opposed to JOUtaROU bugs me.

>>280521602 (OP)
itano circus

>>280543264
to be fair joTAro is a valid Japanese name.

>>280542740
>Dezaki sea
is what is posted in the OP. It was a method of shining light through a perforated cell with moving waves that Dezaki employed in his career
>Inazuma kick
was a specific kick visual that became popular due to Gunbuster; like many things from early Gainax, it was a reference to older media, in this case Kamen Rider
>Tomino Shock
refers to a visual occurrence from 0079 Gundam onward where a shocked/emotional character is shown in negative and the background becomes a swirling image with some crazy color palette

>>280522154
>batches of 12 episodes are no longer "cours", they're individual "seasons" etc.
A cour is one segment of a larger production. A season is standalone.

>>280522154
>>280522177
The 12 episode parts are cours, but it's the "winter season" (because of the actual weather seasons), and then the term incorrectly bled over.

>>280543375
>shocked/emotional character is shown in negative and the background becomes a swirling image with some crazy color palette
Didn't early Dezaki shows do something similar to this? Particularly Ashita no Joe 1 and Ace we Nerae 1

>>280542520
>You fags sure know a lot about tranny vernacular
Know thy AGP enemy

>>280522043
itano circus is perfect as a term because it contains its own etymology

>>280522154
ecchi is a very different thing than gooner, though

>>280544920
It's similar, but usually the character become fused with the background that moves with them and there cell layer of the character is transparent
See picrel

>>280545392
I know of one instance of this is when Kamille gets called a girl in Zeta.

>>280545392
What the fuck Noriko was a newtype?!

>>280542860
>if you've ever seen how normalfags talk
Thankfully, I have not and I will keep it this way.

>>280544989
Is there any appreciable difference between "gooner" and "person who masturbates"?
I'll never understand why zoomers feel the need to give stupid names to things that already have names.

>>280547099
>Man rapes someone
>OMG THIS GROOMING!
Zoomers aren't humans

>>280547152
>Man rapes someone
>*AYO BRO GOT RIZZ FR
FTFY

>>280547099
I think at first gooning meant:
>Spending a long time watching pornography/masturbating without coming
But then it became "person who masturbates", I think because people conflated it with "coomer".

>>280547304
Zoomers do this with everything. Remember when simp stood for "sucker idolizing mediocre pussy"? And now it just means "person who likes other person".

>>280539505
I miss real light

>>280547439
The optical star effect in old anime was good, along with that heat wave effect with wavy glass

>>280540683
somehow that show manages to be more shaft-y than shaft has been in the past decade.

>>280547099
I think the term got mileage because masterbation is much less taboo now. If everyone is expected to masturbate, people felt the need to come up with something to refer to someone who does it too much. As for why people don't just say porn addict, I think it's because people think gooner is more derogatory. An addict is someone with a sickness, to which one feels pity towards.

>>280521602 (OP)
Is there a term for a Doronbo Gang trio?

Yaoi, nowadays they say BL...

>>280522304
why the fuck doesn't fraw wear any pants, I'M MAD!

>>280549951
imagine getting hit with the BL paddle instead of the yaoi one. fuck that shit

>>280549951
This was the very first instance where I saw the term "yaoi".
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/165372
At the time, I thought it was a character, show, or series, so I started googling it.

I wonder if this thread got autosaged. Weird.

>>280540573
man that is crazy good

>>280543375
>>280544920
It's an element that was developed when both of them worked for MushiPro when they were young.

>>280521602 (OP)
How do you achieve Dezaki Seas?

>>280538529
>>280538486
These are how Bruce Timm's characters are usually posed. I wonder if there was any influence?

>>280521602 (OP)
Kyoani face

Is there a name for those pencil sketch impact frames that have been popular for the last 10 years?

>>280553514
It's not uncommon to draw the legs that way in such a pose.

>>280550202
No one in 0079 wears pants, they all wear those white leggings that YAS has a hard-on for.
Related is how soft he draws his characters' feet. I remember the art director for Kill la Kill telling his animators about this to inspire them. Strange connections....

>>280521602 (OP)
>>280538486
The older ones are usually transliterations of Japanese Jargon or glosses.
>ポストカードメモリーズ
"Postcard Memories" or just "a Dezaki" in English is what the man himself wanted to call it, the cuts/transitions to paintings.
>ハーモニーセル
"Harmony Cel" Pic related. It's not just a painting. The vast majority of "dezakis" are really this, the cel line art is taped directly to the painting and photographed.
>ハイライトセル
"Highlight Cel" Top layer cel with specular highlights, in OP's webm the bars of light
>透過光の裏打ち
"transmitted light underlayment" which is usually glossed simply to "underlight" (I see digital era nips just shorten this to 透過光 "transmitted light" but I don't think it was so abbreviated back when it was in use in the analog era) the sea in OP's webm, where they stick a light or a sheet of retroreflective material behind a painting with holes cut into it, so it shines through. It's also fundamentally
>多重露光
"Multiple Exposure" where the bright light of the underlight precludes shooting this in a single exposure (it would just wash out and all look white), so it's shot with mattes. If that means nothing to you and you want a good pictorial anime example there's this:
https://www.tumblr.com/futonolog/95638163333/anime-optical-test

>>280539579
Are they? I always thought more literally, that they were called harmony cels because of the literal tape job that sticks them together.

>>280539202
It's in my other post 透過光の裏打ち.
I think they may have said it in Shirobako if I remember right.

>>280539202
Bloom

>>280522189
Modern anime "fans" are complete normies watching Freiren on Netflix as a pallet cleanser from watching 10 hours of straight real crime documentaries.

>>280521602 (OP)
>soft seinen
>native isekai
>forced animation
>battle iyashikei

>>280522158
TV Tropes has been purging itself and renaming old otaku slang tropes for a while now