The KWAB to end all KWABs.

>>280632076
>>280632110
It says here he's #2 >>280634471

>>280637344
I double checked and apparently that's #2 solo rank in GENERAL

>>280637344
>>280637508
Yeah, I just saw that too. That ranking isn't referenced as often as the ones for the different positions, so it confused me too despite having read it before.

>>280635506
>Koarai begging to join Azuma's team
When was this?

>>280637296 (OP)
Stop spamming the catalog faggot. These threads need to be banned.

>>280634702
Lightning does. It's not much, if any, more damaging to shields than an average gunner trigger. Regardless, sniper triggers seem to use more trion per shot. An ibis shot is probably an entire cube's worth for each shot. You could do that as a gunner/shooter but people only seem to do it on occasion with meteors. It's probably a combination of wanting a higher rate of fire and not wanting to waste all that trion on a shot that's likely to miss since they usually hit through volume. For snipers, every shot is important anyway, so they can afford to put everything in to them.

>>280637508
>>280637580
So he's below Tachikawa?

>>280637905
Tachikawa has like 40000 points. He'll still be number 1 a decade after he retires.

>>280637590
Volume extra. He clung to Azuma’s leg for an hour or two until he agreed to join.

>>280634776
I had forgotten he did this. Nino is so cute.
>>280634976
>Yuma's smile
Further evidence that him insisting on Osamu being captain is his way of secretly training him.

I just realized after reading the b rank rules, that's probably something gege used to come up with the CG rules.

>>280639340
JJK had a rank wars like arc?

>>280636973
This is my one big issue with Osamu. He had several months before Yuma showed up where he seems to have done nothing. He did basically no rank wars, he didn't even watch them, and he didn't do any research even on his own trigger. On the one hand, this was kind of necessary for him to be the total underdog that he is especially at the beginning. But it also makes some of the things he does out of desperation due to his tight schedule feel worse since it's only that tight as a result of his previous inaction.
Him asking Jin to join and actually recruiting Hyuse does demonstrate his greatest power; shamelessness. But the fact that he has objectively worked less hard than most of his competition does make the help he manages to secure through his shamelessness feel somewhat unearned. I think it would have been better to say that he was trying to train during that time, but was doing it wrong similar to Jackson's issue. Adding another instance of incompetence wouldn't really undermine Osamu's character any. But a big chunk of time where he put in no effort kind of does.

>>280637296 (OP)
I have to say that OP is very rude and should be spoilered.

>>280639982
Nah wasn't ranked wars but a death game elimination arc that was also centered around points and some of the wording I got from the B rank rules reminded me of the ones from JJK.

>>280640016
In all fairness, there's very little that C-ranks can actually do on their own, besides weekly challenges/seminars and Rank Wars. Considering Osamu getting into the place in the first place was a clerical error based on his lone wolf desire to protect Chika instead of Border, he didn't have connections coming in, and as we see from the first volume he's not exactly much of a social person, so he wouldn't have luck getting mentors or rivals.
He probably tried Rank Wars early and experienced the same thing anyone starting a fighting game experienced and got noob stomped, which if it didn't push him off trying again ever, it would at least have him put it off until he became more confident in his skills. Which just leaves the weekly training, which even if you get perfect scores in, takes months to give you enough points to get to B-rank.
Osamu was doing as well as Border would allow him, and as well as he could as a person who is motivated by other people, not himself

>>280636444
This one I don't think is too bad. If your objective was to take someone captive then what Nino did could make sense. The one that's really bad is encouraging kill stealing. If you have two enemies killing one another for you, I can't think of any reason why you would expose yourself just to get the finishing blow on one that's about to die anyway.

I love Ninomiya squad

>>280640016
I think it's somewhat implied that osamu has been training while he was C rank. He was an absolute shitter and failed to beat the neighba in the simulation training when he first joined,but was able to beat one "easily" while B-rank : if we put aside the powerboost of having a full loadout (mostly just thruster for this encounter) he did become more skilled,even before being trained by tamakoma

the problem is he's a fucking shitter that's also a trionlet. All the other C ranks were way stronger than him,wich make the "find rivals and train" plan doesn't work

The big difference is also how sociable he became,current osamu wouldn't be bothered to just ask a random B ranker for training

>>280640753
That is probably what happened. I just think it would be good if it was confirmed and acknowledged as him falling into a Jackson-like rut of ineffectual complacency and insecurity. It even lines up perfectly with him having the vague goal of protecting Chika that would have allowed him to tell himself he was making progress even when he really wasn't and could have been doing more.
I also think it would be good to shed more light on his social incompetence before Yuma arrived. The fact that he's willing and able to shamelessly ask for help from the best agents in border but had zero C or B rank acquaintances when Yuma arrived sort of makes him look elitist. Seeing that he had tried and failed to make friends with his peers would do a lot to dispel that. Or maybe his ballsiness just didn't extend to people as much before the issues involving Yuma forced him to speak up. Either way would be fine and make it more clear that him only associating with elite agents is just a consequence of him only opening up and learning how to socialize after he had already been thrust into that circle. Admittedly, the away mission test is helping with this some since he's having to befriend some plebs.

>>280641196
>>280641367
An anon in one of the previous volumes put it best when they said Osamu isn't really someone who makes things happen so much as a catalyst for things to happen around other people.
The biggest thing Yuma coming into his life did to him was just force him into situations where he felt like he HAD to step up because it activated his hero complex, which lead to him making more and more ballsy plays

This volume was pretty fun for memes and edits desu

>>280641896
Hey look it's post boat Chika

>>280641896
I really like WT edits

>>280640016
It is a failing of Osamu that he effectively squandered his first 6 months as a C-rank, and the only real excuse he has is that he didn't really have any kind of goal to drive him. In essence, it IS the same as Jackson's failure, since he only joined to "protect Chika" but something like that has no defined goal or deadline. I can easily see him being the kind of guy who only showed up for the scheduled simulation trainings and barely participated in solo rank wars. The only reason the manga doesn't call him out on it is because there's no real reason to at this point, he's already spending his time "now" as efficiently as possible, so criticizing him for wasting his earlier time wouldn't really kick him into gear since he's already doing all he can.

>>280641367
Technically he didn't even join Border to protect Chika. He was just angry at his own powerlessness. For that matter, we don't know exactly how he joined Border. We just know that he applied, didn't get accepted, was told it was due to 'low aptitude for trigger usage' while those who were accepted were getting their paperwork from the staff, and then met Jin after breaking into the emergence zone.

So the not particularly social Osamu had no particular goal beyond being able to do *something*, joined Border in a non-standard way that he missed a chance to socialize and connect with those accepted during the same time period, possibly missed out on a provisional enlistment and the training and explanations that would include, and embarrassed himself on the trion soldier test after the formal enlistment ceremony.

Leaving him starting his career at Border with no clear goal, no time pressure, no connections, less training and information than some of his peers, and the only stand out thing he did was fail miserably.

>>280637296 (OP)
This is his 3rd time getting humbled.
1st time: Against a Marmod.
2nd time: When he attacked Hyrein instead of running away with Chika.
3rd time: This fucking sniping.
Osamu is not strong nor smart, but he is not stupid. He learns from his lessons. This time, he learnt the wrong lesson, he thought that he himself had to be strong to not commit his 2nd mistake, however now he knows that there were other things he should have been doing.

>>280626604
>thanks to someone leaking information at the press conference
>it's actually from the influx of applicants
Man, what the fuck is wrong with this bitch? More members is a good thing for Border moving forward, not to mention how his "leaking of information" also pulling in more sponsors. I'm disliking her more and more.

>>280640016
The thing is that he didn't have a time limit when he joined Border.
When Osamu is into a corner, he does ridiculous stuff like tresspassing with pliers.

reminder that Act-Age and Ichi's mangaka drew Hatohara/Hiyami yuri doujinshi.

>>280627099
Kek, based.

>>280640945
Hatohara: If you dare to look inside, I will break two, no, three of your front teeths.
Nino: Hey Hatohara, you actually can shoot people right?

>>280643878
holy based

>>280643704
I assume Jin went to whoever makes the call on who gets let in and pulled a "my side effect, bro" on him to get Osamu in. They don't pay c ranks and they get baby triggers, so it probably wasn't that hard a sell to get one more shitter admitted.

>>280629706
I was expecting the faggot to be good at engineering or having a side effect that's useless in battle but extra useful for scouting and such. That's a lot more pathetic.

>>280630206
A senior member training the little guys how to think flexibly? At least that's what it looks like.

>>280631905
Fuck yeah, grenade launchers.

It's funny seeing people complaining about Osamu now is countered with Hyuse's speech to Jackson

>>280643704
The power of pliers got him in.

>number two squad has one combatant
>number one squad has two combatants and a human training weight
That must be embarrassing for everyone else.

>>280632313
What's that shield boyband member #2 is using? Is that the standard shield trigger? It's a lot more pliable than I thought if it is. Which is weird since I've seen a pair of guys turn theirs into a dome before.

>>280644796
It's the standard shield. It can do that too.
There is a reason why Raygust is not that popoular, a regular Shield does the same thing.
Only those who are good at knight like fighting like Murakami, punch gods like Reiji and trionlet like Osamu uses Raygust.

>>280632892
HAX! Faggot's using wallhack I'm telling you!

>>280644713
I still think that it must be terrible to fight against the number 2 squad.
Toma is a godlike sniper who is also very good at hiding and Fuyushima is the only trapper in Border.

>>280644796
It's just normal shield, shape and size can be adjusted at will whenever you use it, of course a bigger shield is less durable than a smaller one, that's why you'd see agents creating a smaller shield to protect themselves from a snipe

>>280644920
There is one other, part of Kako squad, but we don't see them until way later

>>280644886
>>280644928
R-Raygust still looks good to me.

>>280633751
>another jonger

>>280644886
I'm pretty sure Raygust is, all else being equal, stronger. But it has the tradeoff of being unable to do the quick anywhere sniper shields or remote shielding of allies.
>>280644920
I'm sure it would be miserable. But it's still funny that a squad that small and specialized manages to be number 2.

>>280644212
I assume did that as well, but that doesn't answer the question of the logistics. Osamu didn't seem to know that Jin got him into Border, and we know the people who were accepted at the tests were informed then and there and were getting their paperwork while Osamu was asking the interviewer why he was rejected.
So the question remains how Osamu was informed he'd been accepted to Border after all, and what parts of the normal joining process he missed out on. Like, did he miss out on a provisional enlistment and the training it would include because he got admitted to Border partly outside of the normal joining process?

>>280633965
Alright, stop right there. I thought Scorpion is way more fragile than Kogetsu?

>>280644357
Yeah. Azuma is a real Border veteran, only reason why his squad is B-Rank is that he's training a couple of younger agents. Remember that during the invasion, he took command in one of the battles.

>>280634108
What the fuck? He's doing it again! HAX!

>>280634776
>little snowmen
Heh, he's not as cold and dry as I thought.

>>280635015
>eating a taiyaki from the middle
Fucking animal.

The author's calling boyband leader a simpleton. I was under the impression he's the genius calculating type, but now I'm not sure.

>>280645238
They probably just called him/sent him a letter saying they changed their mind and were going to let him in. Based on him having done (and failed) the trion soldier test, it seems like he enlisted in a group like normal. He wouldn't have gotten anything extra like the three idiots. But it doesn't seem like most people get that anyway.
>>280645241
It is. Notice how it cracks from just that one blow. Kogetsus can hit one another multiple times without doing that. And that was a small scorpion blade. Something bigger could have shattered in one hit.

>>280644962
Raygust is good, but the floor to be able to use it properly is very high.
You can abuse the Thrust subtrigger to do quick attacks (weaker than Kougetsu), fast throwing weapon or become a boxer.
It's also good for trionlets since it has more defense than a Shield and it can also be used to attack.

>>280645836
Ninomiya is a genius and he is on the smarter side, but he is a simpleton too.
Just look at him making 5 snowmen while eaiting for the time to run out.

>>280645842
>Notice how it cracks from just that one blow
I don't see how that matters if you can just pull up another blade after it shatters. Since the author mentioned putting away Kogetsu is the same as dismissing the trion and you need to conjure a new one afterwards. Scorpion doesn't seem to have that limitation, or am I missing something?

>>280645972
From context, it seems that summoning Scorpion is way cheaper than Kougetsu.
Scorpion durability is not that bad when is small, so for defense, a short scorpion seems good.
Scorpion is a good trigger, ot's one of the latest tech from Border while Kougetsu is one of the earliest tech.

>>280637905
Yes but Tachikawa does the silly and inmature thing of farming points from newbies mercilessly (that's why fujin doesn't like him).
Nino is the true number 1.

>>280646109
I guess you'll need to use trion every time you're conjuring a Scorpion blade after it shattered. Not a bad exchange, methinks.

>>280645972
In the case of trick parries like this where it only needs to take one hit, it's less of an issue. But in a more typical exchange of blows it's a problem and means that a scorpion user that's on the defensive is going to lose eventually.
It also takes trion to replace blades. Switching off of a kogetsu to another trigger without completely dismissing it does preserve it for use later without additional trion expenditure. You only have to use more trion on it when you make a new one or senku with it. It's the same for scorpions. They're just more convenient to store and allow you to free up your hands for other things like grasshoppers. But they also have to be replaced more often due to the poor durability.

Isn't this manga released monthly? How did you guys end up with a schizo?

>>280646121
t.Ninomiya

>>280645160
Raygust is absolutely stronger.
Normal shields can't handle scorpion or kogetsu attacks directly.
Raygust can but unlike normal shields its a persistent shield so damage builds up overtime while normal shields seem to be more of a case where you spawn them in as needed.

>>280634171
I feel that this goes under the radar for a lot of readers, but this is why Kage squad used to be an A rank.
Each unit can handle themselves and Zoe is a godly support. Even when he is cornered, he still gives a proper support instead of panicking.

>>280633076
Yuiba was cheering on Osamu.

>>280647213
Yuiga is one of the closest things Osamu has to an equal. Everyone else is a mentor.

>>280636932
>Osamu is a gambler
This hits why I dislike him in a way I couldn't put to words. It's not obvious because the author writes it all very well, but this kind of character ultimately turns every outcome into "luck".

>>280647289
Osamu is a gambler, but he tries to stack the odds on his favor and you can see his growth.
Against Suwa squad, he gambled that the other squads will fight to be the king of the hill, but he made all the preparation to stack the odds.
Against Nasu, he gambled that Suzunari squad would pressure Nasu so he can score a point while Yuuma wins against Murakami. He lost his gamble so he couldn't defeat Nasu and he also understood that he didn't manage to improve his odds with his Yuuma v/s Murakami gamble. He wanted to improve that flaw, although he arrived to the wrong solution as we can see how nothing went as he expected.
Now he tries to make a backup to his gambles with a similar idea, having someone who can score points too, but instead of naively thinking he can cover that part, he went for Jin.
Osamu is a gambler, but not a stupid gambler.

>>280645723
Do you think that's how Aftokratorans eat fish?

>>280645957
>Just look at him making 5 snowmen while eaiting for the time to run out.
That's not simple. That's just moe.

>>280647289
>>280647407
I don't think he's that much of a gambler. There's a few times when he takes big risks. But most of those were situations when he or someone he cares about would have been fucked if he didn't. When it comes to his strategies they're not really any more dependent on chance than anyone else's. In fact, I'd say they're generally less reliant on it. Like with the Suwa thing, neither of the other squads really had a choice. Even if they saw through his plan, not playing into it would have still meant fucking themselves over. And shooting the bridge was just objectively the most optimal course of action.
His big fuckups are less a result of him choosing to take a risk and his luck running out and are more him misreading the situation. When he got Chika cubed he didn't think what he was doing was some big brained gamble. He genuinely believed that with her firepower he could help Izumi fight Hyrein and keep Chika safe. Same with the wall snipe. At no point during that match was he really trying to do any sort of gamble. He just thought he could hang with real fighters.

>>280647984
I agree.
If anything I think the only times he really gambles is when he knows he can't win otherwise.
This is the case for the Suwa and Nasu matches where he knows that in a teamfight Tamakoma 2 is at a huge disadvantage.
So he has to come up with means to break teams apart in both cases.
Even against Suwa and Arafune, he had a really solid setup that I wouldn't really consider it a gamble.
Against Nasu and Suzunari, it was either gambling or letting Nasu squad group up.

I guess he also gambled against Nasu herself over her not pursuing him but again he didn't really have many options otherwise.
It was either gambling on stalling her or letting Nasu wipe her half of the map.
Similarly, for the end of the match when he bailed out.
At that point Nasu was going to bailout no matter what and even if Yuma didn't make it Chika could wait her out.
Giving Nasu squad a point doesn't matter because Tamakoma's goal isn't to win as perfectly as possible but to climb as much as possible.
So he had nothing to lose but everything to gain in trying to go for the point, it was a gamble but one he had to take because it carried no downsides.

>>280647984
Mikumo's main way of fighting is to look for ways to put his opponents into hard places. Even his main fighting style shows this, as he constantly looks to position his enemy so that they're trapped between him and another enemy. His Wires feed into this incredibly hard, as they allow him to create difficult zones for his enemy even when he's not there, letting him expand his range of operation. A common opinion is that Mikumo would be a good operator, which I think is true, but Mikumo's true strength in battle isn't looking for tough positions, but making them.

>>280649028
Yep, he's at his best when he's restricting his opponents' options and/or forcing them to act in a certain way. Technically everyone does this to an extent. Shooting at someone forces them to shield. Snipers make certain areas off limits. Koala's snow idea was about controlling movement and positioning. But it is Osamu's specialty. It's one of the few things he excels at more than most. And it's when he finally realizes this that he really comes into his own.

>>280639340
>>280640325
That would not be surprising. From what I recall, a few of the other mangaka at Jump are WT fans, and I'm pretty sure that Gege is one of them.

>>280650333
Hori loves WT too

>>280650361
I can't believe Border allows Katori's zettai ryouki into the rank wars.

I can't believe Four-Eyes is still filtering people to this day

>>280647984
He isn't just a gambler, he is a professional career gambler, he calculates and stacks the odds and then he bets big, but even when odds are not in his favor he is still willing to take a bet if the payout is big enough. Osamu plays a game of reading his opponent and making an audacious bet, it might seem that this is the result of the tools he was given but no, this is how he operates period. This guy broke into border with a bet against his life/freedom that someone might notice it and take him in for initiative alone, absolute clown show of a gamble. And it worked!
>they're not really any more dependent on chance than anyone else's
not quite, as Ktr said
>"still relying on what our opponents will decide"
All of Osamu's plans carry severe risk. What if Suwa abandons chasing Arafune, gives up on the win and just guns T2 down for easy points? What if Nasu just kills him first thinking that she can evade Chika's blast? With Azuma he has placed himself in the most beneficial spot but it also gets him instantly killed if enemies decide to turn on him. With Katori if she didn't suffer an early loss or If Kakizaki was more decisive and followed the initiatives of his juniors, T2 would lose.
Oji was the one time Osamu didn't get the luxury of playing the game as Oji also subscribes to the same logic and thus was shadowing him step by step, it came down to Kashio's incompetence and Oji's poor decision making. Once Osamu was on a prolonged run and Ikoma got into the mix Oji should have switched to pincer strategy instead of continuing the chase.
The mall is what happens when Osamu doesn't need to gamble.
The final battle was a massive, fuckhuge omega gamble and a few bonus gambles on top that cluster fucked on itself and almost didn't pay off. From the start Osamu's plan relied on a bet and Torimaru even asks him why he is so sure. In the end he busted but Chika payed off Osamu's debt with her unlimited cash.

>>280646617
Wakamura chapter burned a hole in his anus. Understandable but he chose the wrong target.

>>280651507
did he seriously get mindbroken by Jackson?

>>280651562
yup. he was seething at Osamu for a long time but after those chapters his anus was entirely shattered and set on fire. it also seemed like he was the avid Katori hater so my guy really self inserted into Jackson. rip

>>280647213
Yuiga is treated like a pest by the entirety of a-rank, meanwhile Osamu is a polite guy and they are peers in combat ability, Yuiga has more trion while Osamu has better command(useless in 1 vs 1) & tactics but otherwise their stats are tied. Fighting each other is greatly beneficial for both and despite being Yuiga favored its a mostly fair match-up. After fighting 200 battles its not unreasonable for them to become friends... there is a good chance that this was the only positive interaction with other border agent for Yuiga from the moment he enlisted.

>>280644255
He might not be A rank but he still dumpsters Osamu so he's no C rank either

>>280644920
There's 2 other trappers, one in Kako's squad and one in low B rank

>>280649571
>Koala's snow idea was about controlling movement and positioning.
The real bonus was they start with snow camo
Azuma was basically a ghost

>>280637296 (OP)
is osamu the most useless shounen protagonist?

>>280645238
>>280643704

I'd assume Osamu also kinda joined in off season for ranked wars, so probably all he really could do was participating in normal practice.
>Season ongoing right as Osamu joins and is a bit too lost to realize he could go watch it
>Off season when Osamu is kinda getting oriented
>Osamu meets Yuma
>Next season of ranked wars start. Osamu actually misses a few of the starting matches.

>>280652227
He just strayed from the path there, being deluded by his shonen training arc that he's now magically caught up to people with years of experience. Discarding his cautious nature and "might of the meek" strategizing for the cheap thrill of being a "point scorer".

>>280638304
That's a really cheap price to be regularly mentored by the best.

>>280650333
Gege has said his manga is a WT copy and I'm kinda understanding what he means now

>>280652524
Real ones understand this

>>280652524
Koala might look like an idiot but he really isn't.

>>280651793
>there is a good chance that this was the only positive interaction with other border agent for Yuiga from the moment he enlisted.
the fat cat is also quite nice to him, compared to the other anyway

>>280649028
What if Mikumo got Vorvoros but he only used it to turn into a puddle and make his opponents slip in him?

>>280653210
Grease is the most powerful spell, after all.

>>280652097
Who would win 1v1, Yuiga or Jackson

>>280647967
He must have lots of fan girls.

>>280653308
Yuiga

>>280653308
We don't really have a way to compare, but I think it would be Yuiga.

>>280653308
That's actually a really good question.
Hyuse said that Jackson is better than Osamu in a 1v1, but never said exactly how much.
Based on Osamu and Yuiga's matches, Yuiga is maybe ~4 times better than Osamu in a 1v1, and Osamu really hasn't meaningfully improved in that regard from The Snipe to the Homework Arc. He just learned to control the field and support his allies better.
Unless Jackson is more than 4 times better than Osamu in a 1v1, which I doubt, then I think Yuiga is better.

>>280653210
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS49Dazin3E

>>280653308
I hope Yuiga actually proves himself A rank material in team fight

>>280653210
>>280653832
There's a neighbor with a raygust like trigger that emits slime, I'm hoping they somehow copy it

>>280653308
well that depends.
While Yuiga loses 1 out of 4 to Osamu in a face to face gunfight despite having double his trion and being a gunner, Wakamura was straight up raped by the Four eyes under much more favorable conditions.
If we go by stats alone Jackson's are higher on all accounts, attack/defense/tron/skill/tactics/mobility all are 1 to 3 points higher than Yuiga. If we compare the trigger layouts we will find something very interesting
Double asteroid handguns for Yuiga, chameleon, bagworm, double shield.
Assault rifle asteroid & hound for Wakmura, chameleon, bagworm, double shield.
Yuiga & Wakamura run basically the same loadout with Jackson's hound being the main difference, usually handguns have lower range, however both of them have a range of 4, so no advantages here. Hound should be great against a low skill enemy but Wakamura swapping a trigger is a bit too much to expect from him at this stage.
As a pure 1 on 1 before any story even'ts I'd say Wakamura is well favored to win an average 10 round, he just has more trion and his gunner basics were nailed down by the Inukai, meanwhile Yuiga is most likely just winging it with his double handguns because it looks cool.
Now if we take Yuiga after 200 battles, I'd say he is favored to win a 10 round, Osamu doesn't fight fair, he will look for weakness and abuse it, for that reason he would make a great sparring partner for someone looking to Improve.
Finally with Wakamura after Canadian consulting, I'd say its back to him being favored. Wakamura has superior stats, superior training and better weapon, the main issue is his empty head refusing to tick. With that mostly solved he should naturally realize that he has the edge in a direct firefight, calmly swap to hound and shoot Yuiga full of holes.

Osamu is only good for sex and nothing else
Look at all those women voting him as the number 1 character in fan favorite poll

>>280654059
>Osamu is only good for sex and nothing else
t. Katori, after Torimaru rejected her and she fall back to Osamu.

>>280654059
pretty much

>>280654059
>t.Mira
don't overdo it with the love bites, he bleeds out fast.
>>280654132
nah, Katori thinks he is also usefull for strategizing & making plans.

>>280653807
Izumi said he’s better than Yuiga already

>>280654191
>Katori thinks he is also usefull for strategizing & making plans
Hot

Best defense trigger for big trionCHAD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHMlslVGJ38

>>280654059
>>280654132
>>280654132

Ya'll joking but good looks are mostly genetical and Osamu has the hottest mom in the series. He is one post-pubertal restyling away from crushing hella puss

>>280655116
>Osamu has the hottest mom in the series
there has been like three moms depicted in the series total

>>280653210
Actually, if Osamu were compatible with Vorvoros, he would be strong.
A BT gives a huge Trion boost, Osamu should have around 30 with Vorvoros so he can actually fight.

>>280655150

And Osamus mom is a certified baddie

>>280655116
>Ya'll joking
nope. he doesn't need to grow up or anything either, this is how fucking Four eyes looks without glasses. he is basically Torimaru 2trion

>>280655161
Sounds like a stereotypical "Forgot what got you here" character arc, tailor made for the expedition when it finally happens.

>>280655202
Imagine if he decides to use contact lenses

>>280651451
>What if Suwa abandons chasing Arafune
His squad gets wiped out while trying to crack a hunkered down T2, scoring few if any points. I don't see anyone being that dumb, let alone Suwa.
>What if Nasu just kills him first
What happened on the east bank was already the worst case for T2. All of the available points got taken by the other squads. Whether Osamu's premature death results in Nasu getting her duel with Yuma or in him fighting Kuruma and/or Taichi, T2 is more than likely leaving that match with more points.
And in any case, manipulating other squads' behavior is what everyone does. A strategy that doesn't take into account what your opponents are likely/want to do is a bad strategy. Osamu is just better at it than most, including coming up with plans that are more likely to work. Like the Kakizaki and Katori fight. All three squads were relying on what the others would do. But the other two were just hoping while T2's strategy involved encouraging the behavior they wanted.
His only huge gamble in rank wars was against Ninomiya. But that's because it was the only option left. He even tried to help out Yuba with Chika's artillery. So it's not like that gamble was his first choice.

>>280655202
Oki looks weird without his mole and hat.

>>280655220
trion body has perfect vision yet he still has them, they are never going away

>>280655150
canonically Osamu's mom is in the tier of her own

>>280641896
>Chika in a suit
Prophetic

>>280644008
everyone is shitting on poor Nino lmao

>>280640945
Is this the same artist that did this? I was surprised to find out they also do WT art

>>280655557
Oh yeah, sure it is

>>280655217
The problem is which BT Osamu is compatible with and if he is skilled enough to use it.
All the BT showed until now looks like a poor match for Osamu because he is not only a trionlet, he is also huge skill issues.
Only Speiraskia (positioning and sekuhara skills) and Vorvoros (even a caveman is strong with that thing) looks like something Osamu could use, but then his trionlet status would hinder him for the former and I don't think he would be compatible with the latter.

>>280655609
>I don't think he would be compatible with the latter
I think Volvoros would acknowledge him as the the cheese strat enthusiast that he is and fit him like a glove.

>>280655609
Have they even checked if he can use Fujin?

>>280655202

Now that's a man worth 50 points

>>280627062
>out of 128
Isn't that a lot of snipers? That's like a quarter of all combatants. But there's quite a few squads that don't have a sniper at all. Do snipers disproportionately fail to clear C rank?

>>280655967
Well one explanation is that sniping in a newer field so oldfags are less likely to be snipers

>>280655967
Do snipers play solo rank wars?

>>280655967
The only way to become a B-rank sniper is through the joint exercises, since they don't do solo rank wars, so there's no way for new ones to jump up like with gunners or attackers. There's also probably a few scattered solo B-rank snipers that haven't found teams because unless your name is Arafune you don't have a need for more than one sniper on a team

>>280655967
You're very close to right, there are 95 B and A rank combatants, and 400+ C rank agents.

>>280656105
They can just be a chad and get a cute operator to make a solo fighter team.

>>280656105
They had to cheat chika to B rank because by the time the grind is over the away teams would have probably flown off.

>>280627368
>Friends with Tamakoma
>Already landed herself the best sniper as a mentor
>Has a guaranteed spot on a B-rank squad the moment she ascends
Izuho got some insane connections now

>>280655766
He would be useless with fujin, the amount slashes available depends on how much trion the user originally has. Osamu would have 2, maybe 3 slashes at most, by comparison chika would be able to spam dozens of slashes.

Honestly the only bt i can see osamu using well is alektor, because it excels in area control which is one of osamu's strong points, and because it can ressuply trion from defeated enemies.

>>280656363
Alektor is like a shooting trigger. Osamu would need a lot of training to use it properly.

>>280656408
But shooting triggers is the main way osamu is threatening/scores point. Osamu struggles to use raygust as more than a fortified shield, while he has a fair amount of creativity in deploying asteroid bullets.

>>280656457
Alektor seems like a super hard trigger to use. Like Nasu viper levels of hard just to make it function at all. Osamu is creative, but he's not especially skilled.

>>280656457
The problem is control, he is shit at it.

Let's listen to this kino before storytime starts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnwPDd0IodQ

>>280656363
Doesn't Fujin add its own trion to the user's? So the minimum might not be a lowly 3 but a more respectable 5

>>280657332
It's a shame that I associate this song with Toei's QUALITY.

Dump anon here, today's volume will start a couple hours later so I can do it all in one go

>>280658568
>in one go
We'll see

>>280658603
The pauses are just for added realism so new readers get a tiny taste of what reading on release is like

>>280658568
link it here since the thread usually moved so fast it'll get archived when I wake up.

>>280655814
121 actually

>>280657824
Fujin-chan slaps a generous +30 on her suitors

we still need to find out if Fujin can travel along a wire or escudo.

>>280659561
>>280657824
But jin win 7 trion generates 11 slashes, miwa trion 6 generates 6 slashes, chika with 38 trion can generate 50-60 slashes. Not looking good for trionlets...

>>280656363
Alektor is by far the hardest BT to utilize at high efficiency, even Izumi would most likely struggle at drawing out its full potential, the raw skill requirements to wield it without instantly dying to random bullshit are sky high.

>>280659561
Damn slutty trigger

>>280637296 (OP)
cool

>>280658568
Don't forget the title dump anon!

what's the deal with sekuhara asteroids?

>>280661800
0 damage but they touch you against your will. Nasu was the first victim

>>280661879
That's rude, his asteroids actually kill you when they hit considering hound is weaker and it fucked nino completely.

>>280661800
High velocity, low damage. Easier to make it land due to the velocity increase. Forces the target to dedicate some of their attention to it.
Since it could be used as a tactic to make the target disregard Osamu's shots as dealing no damage, it forces the target to keep defending anyway in case the next barrage deals real damage.

>>280661879
"Damage" in this case really only means its potential for breaking through shields and the like, right? Damage to trion bodies would be the same regardless, though I guess a smaller shot would cause smaller wounds.

>>280662798
you missed the point. Osamu has a bullet setting when he dumpsters everything for bullet speed, the result is a barrage of extremely annoying bullets which aim not to kill the target but rather to annoy the living shit out of it and force a shield or drain more attention.
This variation of asteroid is sekuhara bullets. victims include Nasu & Katori.

>>280662798
Sekuhara asteroids are different than his normal ones

>>280663049
Pretty much.
If you reduce the 'damage' of an asteroid its still going to go through a trion body in the same way as an equivalent asteroid of the same size.
But it'll take more to break a shield or break a physical object (like the trion soldier's bodies or physical armour/cover).

>>280663049
yes, if he manages to land the critical hit on trion systems, it will still kill, but it won't do shit to shields, and since he can't fire too many of them its pretty hard to do, just 8 bullets per volley

>>280663321
I wonder how powerful a short range almost all power single cube shot would be. From a person with normal trion, of course. The closest we've seen is Yuba and even he is presumably shooting a sixth of a cube with each shot and is probably putting a lot in speed too.

>>280663722
I assume an all power cube would basically be just a bit stronger than an attacker trigger.
Given IIRC Kogetsu was like 80% power 20% toughness.
The only difference is that attacker triggers don't really scale with excess trion.

>>280663722
not even half of what Chika can do with normal settings. now full power single Suwa 0 range shot from her would be something of legend.

You know, It's kinda surprising no one tried to make their own fantasy version of WT.

>Replace Trion with mana
>Border becomes a magical academy or adventurer guild
>Dungeons appear instead of gates
>Invading races are fantasy themed
>fiends, fae, giants, you name it
>Runes instead of Triggers

Attackers become Warriors
Shooters are Mages
Snipers turn into long-range elemental casters or archers
Trappers could be rune users or summoners

You could even spin it as an isekai:
"MC dies, his little sister is left alone on Earth.
Now he’s grinding his way up to A-Rank in the Adventurer’s Guild, hoping to get on an away mission and start hopping worlds to find his way back to her."

Surprised Isekai authors didn't get to it yet.

>>280650361
Katori would so fucking mad if she saw this drawing.
Hori has a based taste though.

>>280663878
with how much isekai slop is out there and with how easily they copy shit, someone probably did just that but was either a poor writer and so it died without getting much traction or it is still ongoing for 59829384283 chapters but nobody cares.

>>280650870
Border allows this. if anything her knee socks+gloves are prude in comparison to Chika's mini-shorts.

>>280663049
No, I think the trion bullet damage is different too. Consider the dramatic difference between the trion body damage caused by Ibis and Lightning.

>>280664023
bullet size & bullet type. iblis is explosive, lighting isn't. lightning hit on trion relay or supply will kill regardless of the entrance hole size.

>>280657332
I like the song but i only can think of the memes everytime.

>>280664095
Sure, hitting vital point being lethal makes sense, but I seem to recall that regular damage is a function of the payload, not the size if the bullet. There's a shell that handles range and propulsion that handles speed, but the interaction that damages trion bodies is purely with the payload inside the bullet meant to cause damage. You could theoretically set damage to 0 and cause no bullet holes, if I'm interpreting it properly.

>>280664349
well since we know that border ranged triggers do 0 damage to civilians than naturally you can drop the damage to zero

>>280664095
Ibis isn't explosive, it's just got higher firepower.

>>280664349
Trion doesn't obey real life physics, so yes, you can do that.
It's also how you can have something like Scorpion, which has high damage but low durability. Or sacrifice speed for power even though speed makes up the bulk of the force an object exerts.
Trion operates under video game balance rules. WT is an e-sports manga in disguise.

Totally unrelated, but I missed the relevant thread. It was only in this storytime that I realised how much Enedora fucked himself. Ultimately, he lost because he blundered into a room with high accuracy trion sensors and air conditioning. If he'd stayed outside the base he could've taken Shinoda no problem.

Does Katori show up in 14? I can't remember.

>>280663878
I feel like the average narou author would completely miss the point of World Trigger and lose the tactical military autism appeal in favor of a power fantasy protagonist.

>>280664683
>If he'd stayed outside the base he could've taken the entirety of Border no problem.
ftfy and yes

>>280664733
Yes

>>280663878
The bigger thing for me is I've not seen anyone do a similar system like bailout.

It seems like a great tool for action series where you can have characters lose and take consequences for it without having to make excuses for their survival.
You can even do a removal of the bailout system for a notable power increase like we see later regarding how much bailout cuts into trion supply

>>280664788
I think Amo could stop him. It seems like he'd be a hard counter. But border's reluctance to use him like that would probably let aftokrator get away with Chika and a whole fuckton of C ranks before they were willing to give the order. He could have been a beloved war hero if not for the horn AIDS.

>>280663049
>"Damage" in this case really only means its potential for breaking through shields and the like, right?
No.
By this logic Osamu should always up speed and drop attack to nothing because his bullets never break shields anyway.

>>280665042
The one thing that seems to be a implication that is never stated directly is
>More damage means bigger trion bullets
Which directly leads to more damage as bigger trion leaks are caused on impact.
A good show of this are the size of Nino's trion bullets when he's using them to blow up buildings.

>>280664947
if Amo opens up on him and he doesn't use underground pipes for immortality than yes. The main issue here is intelligence of the user and boy is it below room temperature.

>>280665042
>By this logic Osamu should always up speed and drop attack to nothing
yes. actually yes. straight up molester build, make them fear.

>>280665152
I agree with that idea, though I'm sure there would be the occasional panel where the art contradicts it or something.
There would also be weird exceptions like guns. Yuba's pistols for example don't have insanely massive bullets despite their power, so perhaps trion bullets from gunner triggers are condensed to be the same size no matter what or something.
Generally this idea seems to hold true though.

>>280665152
Bullet holes don't correspond to bullet size. See Osamu being sniped.

>>280664788
Was it mentioned anywhere how well his BT fares against explosions? Because it seems like it wouldn't last long.

>>280652870
>>280650333
In one of the volume extras Gege says he didn't explain Mahito's arm-blades because they work the same as Kogetsu Senku.

>>280665541
We never got to see it.
I'm under the impression that if someone in the infinite trion room had meteora he would have been killed within a minute. I don't think a single meteora could take out his core in one shot though because it seemed pretty tough.

>>280665541
Suwa's asteroids hit but didn't damage his cores so they should be pretty damn resilient.

WHERE IS IT? WHEREEEE

Kage solos Enedora.

>>280665973
Kage will die like Kazama.

>>280665973
It's funny because it's true

>>280665973
all melee attackers are food for borboros. Konami might make it a trade but only because she is a meteor spamming psychopath, even then it would depend on how durable those cores are.

>>280665973
He could probably avoid every attack, but I don't see Kage being able to kill him so it would be a stalemate.

>>280666148
How is he going to avoid gas while moving around?

Vol 14 storytime?

>>280658568
>Couple hours
You make up some stupid lies

>>280666182
His side effect will scream at him every time he gets close, so he'll know something in that area is wrong and avoid it.

>>280666194
he said a couple of hours >>280658568 but apparently he just died

>>280666280
Dump anon was Ashihara?

We can't pray for both Ashihara and dump anon we don't have the power.

>>280666236
I expect the fight to take place in a confined space.
Speaking of which, shouldn't Borboros be able to create something like that? A cage or a locked space would basically guarantee a kill.

>>280666280
Dump anon got sniped by Azuma

>>280666399
its fine then, dump anon can die, we will put flowers on his grave and give our most sincere words of gratitude. I know he would choose this too.

>>280666236
His side effect isn't a spidey sense, it doesn't detect danger, it detects hostile intent. If Borboros just passively fills up the space with gas then he shouldn't notice.

>>280663722
The slow buckshot with Osamu's trion can be blocked with a shield.
The same with Chika's trion, the opponents have to avoid it.

>>280666988
He would feel Enedora begin to get excited as he is about to walk into a kill zone and avoid it knowing that a trap is there.

WHERE IS ITTTTTT???

>>280667268
Poor Kako, having to compete with Osamu for Ks

>>280640016
I blame a lot of that on early chapter weirdness. Osamu starts off as the normal one to Yuma's superhero, which was fairly common in manga at the time. Osamu was meant to learn about the world at the same time as the audience. When he dropped this angle it created all kinds of weird relics.
>Osamu did no training for months
>C rankers don't know what trion is (do they think triggers run on magic?)
>Osamu picked raygust as his starter weapon without knowing it had a shield
>Osamu didn't know about gunners and shooters until he got B rank
What, did Osamu turn up, ask for the biggest sword they've got then go home?

>>280667301
Why is Kako shipped with EVERYONE?

>>280663208
>sekuhara bullets

What is "sekuhara" referencing? I'm clearly not getting it.

>>280667361
Slutty eyes

>>280667477
Japanese for sexual harassment

>>280667477
Sekusu Harasumento.
Sex Harrassment.
Sexual Harassment.

>>280667301
K's are weak to glasses.

Dump anon... where are you...

>>280667732
Right here >>280667830

>>280637344
Do we ever find out who's number 3?

Actually, did we ever find out how points are added for multiple triggers? You can't just add them because you get some baseline points just to picking up a second weapon.