Which is better?

apples to oranges

Digimon tamers

Lain came out earlier
Old good new bad
Therefore, Lain is better

>Left
Ageless
>Right
Aged poorly
Would still watch both though.

Boku no Pico.

>>280697327 (OP)
Haruhi is absolute slop

>>280697412
fpbp
/thread

Best thing ever vs lain

>>280697639

>>280697412
>noo you can't compare two fruits
where did this retarded saying come from

>>280697327 (OP)
Lain without a doubt, the direction in SEL alone completely blows Haruhi out of the water, even Disappearance. There isn't a single metric on which you can give Haruhi a higher score beyond "embeddedness within contemporary otaku subculture" and even that is a close match up. Actual art vs pop media dabbling in artistic intent.

Bakemonogatari > Haruhi

Let's make it a competition

Haruhi especially given that there's like 2 better things Abe has made

>>280698286
eva is 11/10
lain is 10/10

>>280697327 (OP)
Boogiepop Phantom

>>280698286
That is definitely way more of a competition; I give it to NGE for some of its superb animation and more full depictions of human experience. Lain has incredible art as well but it's more narrow in its focus.

>>280698416
>>280698569
Eva is dogshit postmodern trash. Lain is a tasteful masterpiece

>>280698755
you just didn't understand it bro

>>280698782
>you didn't understand eva even though it's easier than Lain
Suuuure

>>280697540
please explain
i see people all over saying haruhi "aged poorly" but never elaborate, which leads me to believe that they're just parroting an e-celeb or a tweet they read

>>280697327 (OP)
Two things can both be good. You don't need to create fights out of nowhere.

>>280697327 (OP)
Lain
Recently rewatched Haruhi, disappointed with the 2nd season, endless eight needed more variations to keep you on edge, looking for differences in the loops
either that or adapt more from the LNs
Haruhi feels very sidelined in it, at some point you sense that Nagato Yuki is the main character, especially when you consider disappearance

>>280699528
Oh and I think that the 1st season of haruhi in the original order aged better than s1+s2+Disappearance

>>280699528
I've never watched the endless eight and never will

>>280698755
Lain is far more postmodern than NGE lol

>>280699040
I'd say that it's become a quaint thing because it was the crest of a certain wave in subculture that has crashed back down into the sea. It was part of the white foam only found at that edge of completion and dissolution. It's not like those tropes and character archetypes have disappeared but the relationship everyone has to them has changed. Since they're used to make a loving deconstruction of sentiment itself and challenges the unavoidable flaws of cynicism and selfishness, Haruhi can be totally enduring for as long as a common culture of pulp literature exists, but it will never be a bright star in a tiny sky again.

>>280699040
It was late 2000s internet meme humor back when we used to laugh at things that were "wacky" and "random" or "epic fails". Nobody is amused by that kind of thing anymore because we see it all the time on TikTok.

>>280699741
If you think that is what Haruhi is you haven't been paying attention at all

>>280697327 (OP)
Long term Lain exposure makes you cut your cock off. Explains a lot.

>>280700415
>nah you didn't get it bro it was super deep

Haruhi not having a proper ending is also a major penalty

>>280697327 (OP)
Neither. Shitty series like Lain and Haruhi are part of a conspiracy to keep NEET as losers!

>>280700543
Got filtered hard

how does a show even age poorly? its the same anime as it was back then. if it was good before then its good now.

>>280701433
The show doesn't change, people and social conditions do, but the poster doesn't even know that, glory to the lord!

>>280697412
apples > oranges

>>280697327 (OP)
One literally redefined what anime could be and sparked a revolution in the medium, whose effects are still felt to this day, the other one is about a wacky girl and her wacky adventures with ehr friends.

>>280701770
cmon anon, lain isn't that wacky

>>280701433
I think Steins;Gate aged poorly because of its reliance on outdated memes to make you care about anyone in the show.

>>280702009
wow I was hoping someone would complain that Lain doesn't go on any adventures with her friends.

>>280698416
You are a moron though so that isn't saying much.

>>280702058
More likely it was just never good in the first place if it failed to make you care about any of them.

>>280702058
Stein's;Gate aged poorly, but not for the reason you described. The real issue with Stein's;Gate is that it, conceptually, was a nostalgic send-up of the old Akihabara that was already rapidly dying back in 2009.

Of course, today, nearly 20 years later, that very aspect is completely incomprehensible, because Akihabara has been purged multiple times, lost all of it's soul and toxins and now ended up as a characterless "anime land", when Akiba never really was about anime in the first place.

>>280702643
>>280702058
I think S;G can never age poorly because the entire Akiba dynamic is explained within the story itself down to showing a moe version and an electric town version. Same things with "outdated memes," as well. None of the references themselves matter compared to the build up that Okabe and Daru are in that culture so that attention can be drawn to Kurisu responding to them as well.

haruhi starts off with a really interesting/clever premise that it more or less drops 2-3 eps in for sol shit. actually it's the quintessential anime in that respect

I see more meaningful discussions being made about the actual story of Haruhi being made in Haruhi threads than I see any meaningful discussions in Lain threads.

>>280703215
You may be overvaluing the strength of the show's characters and undervaluing how much the Akihabara and Otaku culture of the time period helped make Steins;Gate as popular as it was.

>>280704130
>undervaluing how much the Akihabara and Otaku culture of the time period helped make Steins;Gate as popular as it was
i think it's you who is overvaluing that aspect. normies don't give a damn about that shit

>>280704130
Well yeah duh it reflected the sentiments of the time so it was popular but the ebb and flow of the subculture haven't made S;G incomprehensible. The story shows you the dearness of those things to otaku of the time and preserves them so completely that it's almost documentary. You don't need any extra information to understand a scene such as Okabe freaking out when Mayuri complains about having to go to stores elsewhere since they don't exist in the electric town version.

>>280697327 (OP)
Raildex is unironically higher IQ than either.

>>280704548
I don't think it makes the story incomprehensible, I think it makes the characters less endearing because I view them as being dependent on that subculture to make connections with the viewer. Without it the characters in Steins;Gate feel very ordinary in quality.

>>280704757
How are they dependent on it in any way that isn't depicted in the story itself or common to all subcultures? Okabe may be be leaning heavily into an archetype but chuunibyou really isn't exclusive to otaku and the real reason he's endearing is that it's clear almost from the start that his wackiness is a front for a shy but deeply empathic person. The anime does really well at showing Okabe watching and noticing things about his friends. Okabe is relatable because almost everyone has a part of them that is a performative facade that makes social situations easier; his character is not something that's really diminished by not knowing that this way of acting out with rants about delusions drawn from pulp sources is "typical."

>>280704609
your opinions are wholly taken from anitubers