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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 1:39:16 AM No.280825406
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The "dumb shonen protagonist" trope never actually existed.

The most famous "examples" are at best innocent, sheltered, naive, ignorant, hot-headed, or impulsive, not actually dumb.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 2:23:14 AM No.280826479
Naruto is pretty dumb
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 2:42:42 AM No.280826891
>>280825406 (OP)
Sex with Medaka.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 2:47:10 AM No.280826980
>>280825406 (OP)
>are at best innocent, sheltered, naive, ignorant, hot-headed, or impulsive
Right. Dumb.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 2:52:36 AM No.280827097
>>280825406 (OP)
>>280826891
J-CUPS
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 2:55:02 AM No.280827136
>>280826980
Only midwits say that. They lump any trait they don't personally get as dumb because they don't have the mental capacity to actually understand characters on a deeper level.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 3:11:41 AM No.280827413
>>280825406 (OP)
medaka is hot
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 4:16:34 AM No.280828854
>>280825406 (OP)
Nah, not really. A lot of shounen and even shoujo protagonists from the earlier days of the industry are more than just impulsive or naive. Goku is definitely characterized as something of a dullard, though he is also innocent and generally naive. Usagi from Sailor Moon outright says she's a dummy in the intro to most episodes, and she also struggles in school. It's not even an unusual trait for supporting characters either, like in Yu Yu Hakusho where Kuwabara struggles to get a 50/100 on a test that he studied all week for. Yusuke isn't depicted as dumb as Kuwabara but he's not seen as smart either. Then you have characters like Naruto who openly struggle in intellectual tasks in general. It's not universal, and a lot of recent works in the shounen/shoujo range have included very intelligent MCs, but it's definitely a trope that exists.

>>280827136
Lack of impulse control is directly correlated with low IQ, and I would argue there is strong causative evidence. Smart and even average intelligence people intuitively understand how to regulate their emotions and what's more, they understand the social utility in doing so. Dumb people don't have the same time horizon, I would argue the real debate is if they even know about a long time horizon as a concept or if they know and just don't care.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 5:44:10 AM No.280830616
>>280828854
Maybe if they're so impulsive they can't keep themselves out of trouble. But that's rarely the case and many times it's a trait of characters who aren't quite mature (anyone less than 20) who usually grow over the course of the story.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 6:08:47 AM No.280831101
>>280826891
https://exhentai.org/g/1689403/459b9c5a51/
Same here, especially if it's like this
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 6:23:02 AM No.280831390
>>280825406 (OP)
How is this even a trope? The mc is by design lacking at the start of the hero's journey so he has somewhere to grow to.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 6:36:00 AM No.280831611
>>280825406 (OP)
I prefer kumagawa
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 6:37:17 AM No.280831631
>>280827136
>midwits
Only retards say THAT.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 6:41:14 AM No.280831704
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 7:32:58 AM No.280832471
>>280831390
Maybe because tastes have changed over time that the demand now is for the too-wise-for-their-age MC to easily self insert in or do the parasocial thing with.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 9:02:19 AM No.280833638
>>280831390
Goku only grew dumber
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 9:25:09 AM No.280833994
>>280831390
There's a difference between being inexperienced and being a downright moron. The MC at the start of the journey might not know the minutia of the unknown world he's about to step into but he should still have a certain amount of regular common sense.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 9:39:29 AM No.280834191
How do you tell if you're smart or dumb?
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 10:58:08 AM No.280835079
>>280825406 (OP)
Innocence and sheltered is not stupidity.
Naievity, ignorance, and an inability to keep your emotions in check IS stupidity.