ITT: The exact moment a manga/anime went to shit

>>281217251 (OP)
Maybe a page sooner hard to judge

>>281217251 (OP)
Was this before or after el Hermano appeared

>>281217251 (OP)
Food War's ending was built up to be shit. The entire thing was about how Soma didn't have any inherent talent and yet he still kept winning on the basis of never giving up yet who wins the tournament at the end? The worst character of course! That makes complete sense!

The author is retarded.

>>281217251 (OP)
I would have said it was the Autumn tournament, or whatever it was called.
The one where the MC tied with 2 other guys

>>281217251 (OP)
I know people will say "power levels," but the moment Hawk’s tearful and powerful sacrifice got turned into a "lol just kidding" moment, I knew the writing was about to nosedive straight into the Marianas, and I wasn’t wrong.

>>281217251 (OP)

>>281218357
Puck's existence is one of the most important elements of Berserk, but you're not ready for this discussion yet.

>>281217251 (OP)
Pic unrelated

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Save the world with SnK. The biggest issue post 123, is that the survey corps don’t have good enough reasons for opposing to Eren to the point of wanting to kill him besides Levi(fueled by revenge for Erwin and his men) and maybe Armin(always the most empathetic character).

>>281217251 (OP)
Erina’s character,her family arc,and her fans spamming ruined this story,which forced the author to kill and end his story.

He didn’t want Erina to win,he preferred for Soma to marry Megumi and for the two of them to run their restaurant together,but the editor pushed for Erina until the very end.

So the author basically said “screw it,you’re not getting anything else from me,figure out the ending yourselves.”

>>281220507
Stop living in your headcanon and see reality for what it is. Erina was always endgame and the author clearly loved her.

>>281220507
>He didn’t want Erina to win,he preferred for Soma to marry Megumi and for the two of them to run their restaurant together,but the editor pushed for Erina until the very end.
source?

>>281217251 (OP)
I have no idea how a manga could do a pretty good job and then shit the bed right before ending and then transitioning into a sequel. Just killed this dude for no reason right after he proposed and everything.

>>281217344
This moment brought all of us Keng/a/nbros together like nothing else could.

It was already becoming shit but this killed any hope I had left

Askeladd carried Vinland on his back hard, Yukimura needs to be hurt.

>>281217251 (OP)
The worst part is this page happens directly after one of the best arcs in the series, you're riding that high then suddenly El Grande Padre shows up and quality nosedives all the way to the end.

>>281218246
No, it really was the power levels. By Hawk's sacrifice that manga was already underwater.

>>281223240
Erina's entire family drama was retarded and only made her character worse.
>Warming up to the cast?
>BAM here comes El Padre
>Is starting to stop being a tsundere?
>BAM here comes El Madre
It's like Gohan needing to constantly be nerfed, Toriyama didn't know how to write someone who is as strong as Goku but not as fight junkie/stupid, here it's not knowing how to write Erina as anything but a tsundere

>>281222483
Askeladd had an amazing end to his story, it's true quality drops a bit later but the moment it goes to shit is after the Farmland Saga arc, not before.

This went downhill after the first arc but this moment was where it really nosedived

Why do farmland arcs consistently kill their manga? Seemingly regardless of quality even.

>>281217344
I never had a honeymoon period of hype for this, I immediately knew the manga was going to suffer.

I was between this one or the panel of Pain being talked no jutsu and reviving everybody, I ultimately think this is probably worse since Naruto is clearly wrong, yet the story from here till the end likes to pretends he is not

>>281225241
Personally I'd say it went to shit exactly at the timeskip. When 3 years later the first thing Naruto did after training with Jiraiya was enter ANOTHER shadow clone training arc, I knew shit was looking bad.

>>281218009
El Hermano was the second to the last arc, the last was La Madre

>>281217251 (OP)

Post loli fusion.

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>>281228603
Harems are fundamentally cancer. There's just no satisfying ending ever.

>>281217344
The collective iq of the threads dropped and they never recovered

>>281229159
it was right there, then author-sama took the unoriginal plagiarized way out

>>281226412
This talking point is retarded. Yeah the whole bigger blue ball thing was dumb but otherwise there's no real difference between part 1 and part 2. The power levels only start going crazy during the Itachi and Pain fights

>>281226616
I didn't even know there was something after el hermano

>>281228603
Nobody had a problem with this

>>281220507
Shokugeki has schizos? I didn't know this

>>281223507
It's one of the best arcs in the novel though. Musashi returns a changed man, ready to kick ass when the inevitable occurs.

>>281217251 (OP)
For me it was turning megumi into a fucking joke character. I AM STILL MAD

>>281220507
>Arguing the author is a megumi stan after 3 seasons of shitting on her
Only season 1 of shokugeki is canon to me.

>>281223402
That was the only good part of the entire demon world arc.

>>281218403
There used to be a hint that Puck will be able to help Guts control the beast and they will fight together like in Shaman King, but after Miura played new idolmaster he decided that it will be a loli witch instead and Puck will become just a regular comic relief