I miss when anime was niche. It was as late as 2012, I remember being on video game message boards, and people would make fun of you if you liked anime, it was seen on the same level as MLP. Now? I see so many soccer moms, karens and whatnot on X that are anime fans. Some of them think they are old school because they watched anime in the mid 2010s. This was never supposed to be a hobby for anti-porn weirdos. Anti-fanservice weirdos. And puritans. In the 2000s anime fans all liked hentai. Now? Its the opposite and anti-goonerism is popular. I'm scared and sad.

>>281283146 (OP)
>I miss when anime was niche
>It was as late as 2012
No it wasn't
Touch grass and stop making these blogpost threads

>>281283193
Yes it was and you're probably that "its was never niche" guy who exaggerates how popular anime was back then.

>>281283146 (OP)
It is what it is, there's nothing we can do about it, learn Japanese and read manga anon, zoomers and dumb normalfags are too retarded to read

>>281283146 (OP)
Same thing happened with videogames.

>>281283146 (OP)
Nah, people just found you specifically to be an annoying faggot.
Anyways, weeaboos being seen as equivalent to bronies is a sign that it wasn't niche at that point, as that was due to anime fans being excessively annoying (like you). Anime stopped being niche around 2005.

>>281283332
VIdeo Games weren't niche though. Anime even in the 2000s wasn't something you talked about openly. Maybe DBZ. That's its. You didn't talk about Higurashi, Gunbuster, Mazinger etc in the 2000s openly.

>>281283332
Oh so this is the type of people posting here.
Video games were NEVER niche. At any point.
They were in bars in the 70s, people played them there, and when home consoles came around people had them at home.
The only reason people think video games were niche is this perpetual delusion that a lot of /v/tards live under that liking video games is some kind of personality trait, when in reality it isn't and "liking video games" is something most of the living world under the age of 50 can attest to.
What's niche is, I dunno, liking fucking Dragon Quest and not being slant eyed.

>>281283365
Imagine pretending to be 2 different people lol. >>281283193
I never talked about anime openly. Only online. Obviously anime was niche in 2005. You literally could not watch anime made in the same year without pirating. But go on retard.

>>281283426
You couldn't watch anime made in the same year, yeah, doesn't mean it magically wasn't niche when Gundam Wing/SEED, Naruto, and Bleach had dominated animation on TV.

>>281283455
Lmao. Bleach wasn't even on Western TV at that point. Fake oldfag just exposed himself.

>>281283491
>one year off for one show
Wow, who gives a shit in generalizations. You want me to bring up Dragon Ball Z then? Sailor Moon? Yu Yu Hakusho?

>>281283531
You have to go with dubs that removed anisongs lol. You're reaching so fucking hard man. Its different today.

>>281283564
And? So fucking what?

>>281283581
Don't be a retard you know what this entire conversation is about. The fake oldfags who only started watching raw/subs in the 2010s should have been gatekept. That's a fact. Bittorrent or bust.

>>281283619
>dude muh anime songs weren't brought over
>b-b-but that's not my point, it's these fake oldfags!
Anyone who spends their time seething on the internet about an invasion that ruined their hobby more than a decade ago is, in all likelihood, someone far younger than they present themselves as who is in actuality a complete newfag.
Sort of like how prudes are the biggest degenerates.

>>281283697
Whatever dude. You should have been gatekept.

>>281283732
Cut a bit deep, huh?

>>281283737
I'm almost certain you and this guy are the same dude. You just used a different browser.

>>281283193

>>281283771
I'm almost certain you're a retard who is no older than 25.

>>281283531
Only kids watched them.

>>281283799
You're arguing with someone who has an agenda.

>>281283799
Yeah, and guess what retard, someone who was a kid when Dragon Ball Z had its big boost back in 1998 with Z-Day, lets say 11, would already be an adult by 2005. Same with the others, what is this argument.
>>281283831
The agenda is calling you a faggot for making this thread every single day.

>>281283843
I make it every few weeks and you are always the first responder. Get a life weirdo. You're on /a/ 24/7.

>>281283870
>woah dude, all these invading normalfags ruining my hobby
>Wow, you're such a weirdo for being on the anime board
So what is it, do you hate normalfags or do you want to be a normalfag

>>281283894
bro is on /a/ 24/7. Probably lives in a basement.

>>281283925
>admits to being a projecting normalfag

>>281283843
Dub Dragonball is barely even "anime", it's more like a terribly written American amateur radio drama played over anime footage.

>>281283947
And it still ultimately made thousands of American kids incredibly aware of "those cool cartoons from Japan" and Funimation made probably millions off of dogshit DVD boxsets sold on being "LIKE THE UNCUT JAPANESE FOOTAGE"

>>281283947
I'll take that over a grandma voicing Goku, the manliest anime protag ever

>>281283996
It's a good thing I'd have been aware of what anime was even without DBZ/toonami/etc in the 90s. Heck, my parents even showed me the first few episodes of nge back in the 90s, before realizing it wasn't a good idea because of Reis nude scene

>>281284101
Yeah man.
Everyone watched Evangelion in the 90s.
Because ADV released it in the 90s.

>>281283426
>I
yes you were a loser but it doesn't mean that others weren't

>>281283213
it isn't as mainstream now if you think it is

>>281284146
See. Its the same fucking dude every time trying to convince everyone anime wasn't niche. Barely anyone in the US watched NGE in the 90s.
>>281284166
ANd he always pretends to be multiple people. Its deranged behavior.

>>281284098
You will never fit in on /a/.

>>281284197
>Barely anyone in the US watched NGE in the 90s.
Yeah, that's why it had merch in America and the entire series was released on VHS and DVD and it had already become a well known point of discourse for having one of the worst endings of all time by the end of the 90s.

>>281284232
why bother deboonking this schizo when he's just going to make the thread tomorrow all the same

>>281284232
don't be a retard. Anime was a tiny industry back then, we can see the numbers. And even bringing up NGE, there were things far more niche than NGE i was shown then. Most NGE fans have never heard of them.

>>281284206
Don't care

Some fags that call watching the one normalfaggiest shonen of the season to fit in with the twitter zeitgeist "being an anime fan" doesn't make anime mainstream.

>>281284232
So many anime had DVD releases it means nothing. I have the Najica Blitz Tactics full DVD set right next to me and no zoomer has ever heard of it

>>281284255
Why didn't you say those niche things instead of NGE then.
Anyways, we can see the numbers. Which show NGE got a full VHS release in the 90s which was successful enough to prompt a DVD release, which was successful enough to prompt an actual TV broadcast in America.
>>281284322
I mean, it does mean something because shit doesn't get released if it doesn't have an audience.

>>281284343
You're not looking at the numbers. You're acting like a retard. Compare anime industry revenue in the 90s in the US to now. Any retard can tell you its magnitudes bigger today.

>>281284400
Yeah dude, almost like it was a consistently growing market that only ever dipped with the recession (and one company in particular biting off far more than they could chew).

>>281284423
It was a tiny market back then.

>>281284445
Not really.
It's only tiny comparative to today, and the point is that anime was already growing in mainstream status by then.
The fact that a work like NGE got a full release in English without being broadcast on TV (which is a lot, it was like 13 tapes solely reliant on the rental market to make money) was already a sign of anime's then oncoming mainstream status (as was works like Lain and Texh receiving the same treatment).
By the 2000s, when the most popular cartoons on TV were Japanese and there were probably a hundred English fan communities for fucking Naruto, anime was already mainstream.
>b-b-but muh underground niche shit
Even ignoring how you're a liar on that front, people still don't watch a lot of shit that airs today, so that doesn't even matter. Mainstream is mainstream. Many anime were mainstream, so anime was mainstream, end of.

>>281284503
Mental retardation. Games hit 7.4 billion dollars in sales in 1999. Non inflation adjusted. Let me guess. Anime was a billion dollar industry back then right?

>>281284503
No, a tiny handful of normalfag-friendly action slop is mainstream. Not anime as a whole.

>>281284520
>Mental retardation. Here's a completely different industry that sells its shit for 4-6x the price and was always excessively popular.
Amazing argument.
>>281284531
So then, in your own retarded and asinine way, you agree with me. Anime has always had excessively popular aspects of it.

>>281284558
You're arguing with two different dudes. Now concede retard. The anime industry in the US in the 90s was a tiny industry.

>>281284570
Tiny, by comparison to ludicrous standards.
For a relatively new industry altogether (as in, the selling of anime on VHS tapes explicitly as anime), yeah, NGE and ADV's lineup as a whole were exception and did well and encouraged further growth into anime, and by the 2000s the industry had grown exceptionally huge in the west, thus the existence of a "Big Three", a term referring to three works that experienced excessive simultaneous international, with a focus on western, popularity.

It's pretty funny how much of a poser you are.

>>281284558
Some fag that watched dubbed Attack on Titan because the other guys at the office made that the subject of their watercooler talk is not an "anime fan", nor does him doing that make anime mainstream.

>>281284617
That does, in fact, make anime mainstream.

Covid ruined dozens of niche communities

>>281284616
Its funny how rabid you are about this. You respond to every person lmao. It was a new and relatively unpopular industry. IE Niche. And that triggers you so much.

>>281284632
No, it makes Attack on Titan mainstream.

>>281284663
And my point was that it was already mainstream by the 2000s, and that your example of Evangelion already showed a growing popularity of anime within the 90s that led to that mainstream status.

>>281284662
My argument is streaming ruined anime. VHS and Physical stuff is too inaccessible and expensive. But Bittorrent? Filters out the retards, and is free. Zoomers almost entirely use weird ad filled sites when pirating their anime.

lol angry thread grrrrrr im angry about things! im special! grah! grrrah!

>>281284698
>VHS and Physical stuff is too inaccessible and expensive.
You're proving how underage you are by not knowing about rental stores.

>>281284709
where i lived the video stores only had ghibli a stuff that was 4kids

>>281284709
Oh wow rental stores, where things were frequently out of stock and with a much smaller selection of anime. mostly all dubbed too. Great fucking argument over torrents bro.

>>281284740
>admits to being a 2000s kid

Honest question, but how is normalfags watching JJK or BHA today any different than normalfags of yesteryear watching the Big 3? Is it just the sheer numbers? Or is the social stigma against anime gone in the younger generations?

>>281284746
>where things were frequently out of stock
That's why you make reservations.
>and with a much smaller selection of anime.
That's why you make order requests.

>>281284754
Its not just JJK and battle shonen. That's where you are deluding yourself.

>>281284746
>>281284770
Also, the fuck do you mean "argument over torrents", that wasn't the point, the point was that getting tapes was not some difficult task, you went to the video store and got them you underage shitstain.
>>281284754
The difference is non-existent, it's just the newfags who grew up on hyper popular shit of old are now mad at the newer cancer growing up on the newer shit.

>>281284770
lololololol dude is arguing in favor of video rentals and didn't even acknowledge they had dubs. dub faggots are the worst.

>>281284698
It's bled over into torrenting too though, because the few zoomers who do torrent don't understand what makes a good or bad encode and invariably always go for the lowest filesize with the highest resolution, which is the worst possible combination. The top torrents for virtually every series now are dogshit encodes, HEVC 1080p at 100MB per episode or some retarded shit. At that point the streaming sites are probably going to be giving you something with a better bitrate than that trash.

>>281284774
Do you have any examples of any non-shounenshit that has achieved big mainstream popularity? I don't keep up with normals and their antics so I don't know.

>>281284098

>Goku, the manliest anime protag ever

you watch dub you have no say on whats masculine

>>281284809
I've never seen episode sizes that small lol. Top torrents are usually 1.4 gb on cat

>>281284863
I watch Sub on every anime that's not DB, Outlaw Star, and Cowboy Bebop, pal

>>281284801
>The difference is non-existent, it's just the newfags who grew up on hyper popular shit of old are now mad at the newer cancer growing up on the newer shit.
Is that actually the case, or have the social dynamics changed for zoomers and aoomers? If you were into shounenshit in the 90s, the preppy cool kids would make fun of you and it was seen as weird. The anime and vidya-liking kids who didn't hide it were always seen as outcasts. Are even the preppy jock kids of today watching shounenshit now and talking about it openly? If so, that is a pretty big change.

>>281283146 (OP)
>I miss when anime was niche. It was as late as 2012
Maybe in the USA.
Europe (specially Italy and France) and Latinamerica have been importing japanese media since the 70s. Hell, my father used to watch Ultraseven on tv as a kid.

>>281284943
Most people don't tend to live in Revenge of the Nerds.
Unless you were in high school in the early 80s or college in the VERY early 90s, very few people were giving you shit for liking video games. That's a persecution complex.
As for anime, the only time people really got shit for that was when Narutards were becoming the first bronies, but that was mostly a thing where you had to be aggressively obnoxious (or fat, really, if you were fat or obnoxious people would make fun of you for anything), and by the time of Attack on Titan and SAO that had already cooled off.

Anime is becoming more popular in the west so expect most anime to be about gay nigger women sooner than later

>>281285021
>Unless you were in high school in the early 80s or college in the VERY early 90s, very few people were giving you shit for liking video games. That's a persecution complex.
That's completely untrue. There've always been "acceptable" pieces of media from every medium that normalfags deemed okay to like, whereas liking anything outside of that was always looked on as weird and mocked. In the 90s/early-00s, unless you were playing sports games, Halo, or GTA, vidya were "uncool". And openly talking about anime was always seen as a weird thing back then, even the mainstream ones like Naruto.

>>281285082
>In the 90s/early-00s, unless you were playing sports games, Halo, or GTA, vidya were "uncool"
Maybe if you were like, 8 years old. Never had any Quake LAN parties in the dorms?

>>281285101
At my age it was Halo LAN parties, but that's my point. If you were into shit like Baldur's Gate or .hack and not whatever dudebro shooter was in at the time you got weird looks.

>>281285101
He's either a newfag larping or an obnoxious loser

>>281285148
>If you were into shit like Baldur's Gate
Again, unless you were 8 or maybe in the shittiest public schools possible, nobody cared about this.
The biggest fucking party guy I knew played Baldur's Gate. He called it "His little game with his little adventure dudes" and he played it every day for like a year. He was black.
Like, listen, you realize MYST was super popular right? That FF7 was super popular?

>>281284905

DB is not on the same level as those dubs, the script is so shit they could have had actually good VAs and it would still be one of the worst dubs made

>>281285182
I'm not asking about what your one black friend in college played, what I'm asking is if Chad Thundercock is openly talking about his favorite JJK character or something now, because if that's the case then social dynamics have changed.

>>281285236
I mean, the point was that the guy I'm talking about was Chad Thundercock, and he played Baldur's Gate.

>>281285252
Were there any vidyas that your mythical black chad friend ridiculed?

>>281285286
No because he was a normal human being.
In fact, I barely knew anyone that made fun of someone for what they liked unless that person liked 13 year old girls.

>>281285233
Did it really change that much? Because it's not like it's a complicated anime or anything. I've also read the manga and it didn't feel like much was changed. Something like the Battle Royal manga was egregiously changed

>>281283146 (OP)
If a bunch of kids you knew liked it when you were a kid, like Dragon Ball, Yu-Gi-Oh!, and Pokemon, then it wasn't niche.

>>281285307
Did he talk about the lore or anything deeper than calling it "his little game with adventure dudes"? Because if not, don't you think there's a distinction between that and people who show a deeper interest in it?

>>281285236
I'm more interested in why this one guy insists that anime has always been mainstream since the 90s. Is it out of wanting to act like the hobby has always been normal and acceptable, that it was never weird to be an anime nerd? Or is it because of the desire to btfo actual oldfags who lived through that era?

>>281284754
The difference is mostly that the JJK/BHA normalfags call themselves "anime fans" while the Big Three dubbies didn't even know the word.

>>281285377
I mean, yeah, but so what?
There's people who like Star Wars, and then there's the people who read all the dumb books.
There's people who like Resident Evil, and then there's people who seriously try to analyze the lore of the franchise.
There's people who like anime, and people who watch more than what's most popular in the given pool.

Like, if that's your distinction, then everything is niche.

>>281285313
>retarded dubfag is retarded
I am truly shocked.

>>281285451
>fails to answer his questions
I'm starting to see why you have a persecution complex, you probably acted like this in school and got bullied, and blamed your bullying on anime instead of you being a massive aids ridden faggot.

>>281285429
If your definition of liking something is shallow acknowledgement of its existence, then I guess we have different definitions of what an anime "fan" is. So in other words, normals still view anime as strange outside of the stuff that makes it into their normalfag social media feed?

>>281285451
Ok so I'm guessing it didn't change. Enjoy your 90 year old Goku pal, it was fine when he was a kid, not as an adult

>>281285494
>If your definition of liking something is shallow acknowledgement of its existence
It's engaging with it as a normal thing. Playing a game is hardly just "acknowledgement of its existence", that's doing with it what you were designed to do with it.
Someone who watches anime is engaging with it.
>So in other words, normals still view anime as strange outside of the stuff that makes it into their normalfag social media feed?
I mean, I don't know, I'm not aggressively obsessed with normalfags and continually seeking validation in the form of liking things they don't like, which seems to be the entire purpose of this thread, but in my experiences most people are fine with anime and will watch something if it interests them, but won't actively seek out the next thing. You can go on all you want about how that doesn't make them a TRUE FAN or whatever, but that's a really inane and dumb discussion and shows you're more interested in self-validation and getting pats on the back than anything else.

Really, I doubt anyone in this thread even actually watches that much anime. That one fag still hasn't posted all those niche anime he totally watched outside of fucking NGE.

>>281285378
As someone who did live through that era, I recall anime fans being seen as strange and socially stunted. I remember lots of fujoshi landwhales with emo haircuts doing anime mannerisms in real life. Most people who talked about anime openly were associated with people like that.

>>281285236

back in high school lots of people had shitty naruto/aot ig pfps like picrel but never actually watched the anime itself maybe just yt clips

>>281285588
Most of the issue tends to be fags that have watched 5 Jump battle shonens calling themselves "anime fans" and going on tirades about how "anime fans actually hate fanservice and demand more fat sassy black lesbians in anime".

>>281285699
So you saw ragebait and got mad

>>281285588
It's not about being a "TRUE FAN" or anything like that, it's the difference between showing a genuine interest in anime as a medium or watching one occasionally because it dropped into your normalfag radar. It sounds like you're unaware of this distinction.

>>281285732
I'm aware of the distinction, and the point was mainstream appeal. Anime is mainstream because of reasons already described that you are currently acknowledging.
No, not all anime is mainstream, much like how every film or every TV show isn't mainstream. No, the majority of people watching anime aren't watching every anime, much like how people who like movies aren't watching every movie and primarily just watch popcorn flicks, or how your mother likely only watched soap operas and procedurals despite spending most of her waking life watching TV.

What it means to be mainstream is not that there are an army of people obsessively watching all of something, it just means that it has broad mass market appeal in substantial enough quantities to be notable.

>>281285313

The script is still not uncut despite them saying it was for years. Lots of backgrounds deaths have extra dialogue/breathing overlapped over the footage to suggest dead bodies are still alive. Overall there's too much added dialogue over explaining every action that character is going to do. And that's just the dialogue, the music doesn't shut up either.

There is a lot of inaccurate statements too cause some arcs were based off of censored French dub scripts. Super's dub script even managed to be inaccurate during some parts despite it being made recently. There's more ofc but you can do your own research. Z dub is fun to watch for nostalgia with friends, but it's too cringe for me to say it's legitimately better than sub

>>281285711
It's not even ragebait, ask /tg/ how many properties have been ruined due to creators "catering to fan demand" from "fans" that mostly engage with the thing they're "fans" of by bitching about how ist and phobic it is on social media.

>>281285429
I think the issue is that you're comparing single franchises to an entire medium. A better comparison is "People who like movies, and people who watch movies other than yearly Marvel cashgrabs". I think that case, you wouldn't even say people liked movies, just those specific movies. The same goes if you only watch Naruto and DBZ. That's less "you like anime" and more "you like Naruto and DBZ".

>>281285780
Right, but my point is your token black friend from college who played Baldur's Gate likely was not in the same social circles as the people RPing on forums or making mods or gathering at the local comic book shop for DnD night. So even though he played the same game as those people, he didn't really have a meaningful engagement with it like they did. In the past, when people watched anime, even if it was just the big 3, they tended to genuinely engage with it, get into debates about powerlevels, draw OC, and more things that normals would find autistic or cringe. If you're telling me that nowadays more people are engaging with anime at the level that your friend engaged with Baldur's Gate, then it seems to me that it somehow became trendy to pretend to like it, but that genuinely liking anime is still cringe, ie the whole "ironic weeb" phenomenon. Gaming went through the same thing with the whole "geek is chic" movement, as did DnD, which is why Baldur's Gate 3 was such a huge game among normalfags even though they would have never touched the first 2.

>>281285780
People that call themselves "movie fans" (or movie buffs or cinephiles or whatever) don't primarily just watch popcorn flicks. That's what normalfags do. People that are enough of a fan of movies to identify themselves as fans are way more engaged than that.

>>281285602
I was born in 1983 and saw basically the same thing in the 90s. You'd also get bullied when they found out that you're drawing anime style doodles before DeviantArt even became a thing. Specifically only anime style doodles in fact, because if you drew Marvel style shit you were actually seen as pretty cool, and I'm talking from experience in both. So we both know this "anime was always mainstream" dude is just blowing hot air, but I want to understand why he believes so and feels the need to preach his narrative.

>>281284809
>zoomers who do torrent don't understand what makes a good or bad encode and invariably always go for the lowest filesize with the highest resolution, which is the worst possible combination
Early zoom zoom here, I'm downloading ~300 mb 1080 episodes because I tested this and could literally see no difference between that and 1.3 GB files.
I was led to believe that the latter is just raw file without proper compression

>>281285906
They do actually.
See the phenomenon of the modern film bro, where the heights of cinema were boiled down to Fight Club and Goodfellas.

>>281285956
I experienced the same thing in the 00s. Kids would get weird looks for drawing DBZ characters, and people who drew in anime style in art class were usually mocked. DeviantArt was around, but people were regarded as weird for being on it. Where do you think all these people denying these simple truths are coming from? Also, I think Persona 5 is a good example of this change too, because 3 and 4 were regarded as really niche games for weebs (the kind of people we're talking about), but somehow 5 became massively mainstream and the types of people that latched onto it complain about 3 and 4's themes and want to change it to cater to them and their normalfag sensibilities. I guess the same is happening to anime at large now?

It’s pretty funny how the same two people in this thread have to constantly bring up video games because they don’t actually watch any anime at all.

>>281286159
You're clearly too young to understand the overlap between anime and Japanese video games back then. They were all in the same rough "otaku" cultural sphere.

>>281286202
Nah, I clearly understand that this is a /v/ crosboarder thread.

>>281286218
There is a type of person that was into anime that anyone who isn't a zoomer has either met or was themselves, and we are describing that type of person. The type of person that was playing JRPGs on the PS2 like Xenosaga, .hack, or Persona was the same type of person buying anime DVDs from Suncoast or downloading shitty rips online. They also weren't normalfags and normalfags wanted nothing to do with them or their hobbies.

>>281286283
>There is a type of person
It’s always some other guy and never specifically you. Why don’t you watch anime?

>>281286218
you don't even know that the /a/v/ feud exists in the first place because JRPGs were massively popular and fans of those games also watched anime but not anime that lived up to the standards of the cunniseurs of /a/

>>281286329
See >>281286313

>>281286357
what's your top 10 for this season?

>>281286371
It’s always drawing attention away from the people making these threads and their engagement with anime.

>>281283146 (OP)
>I miss when anime was niche. It was as late as 2012
>2012
Anime was mainstream in 1998, if children were talking about it in the school playground it wasn't niche.

>>281286421
right, I forgot a schizophrenic made this thread

>>281286329
This Anon gets it. /v/ was only interested in manime and moe offended them, but /a/ was always populated by little girls.

>>281286371
I'm the other Anon but Ruri Rocks, Clevatess, and City are the only ones I can bother to keep up with. Can you name another 7 worth watching?

>>281283146 (OP)
I feel ya /a/non deport shonenspics

>>281286507
>Can you name another 7 worth watching?
yes but I'm following 30 series just like last season

>>281283146 (OP)
>anti-porn weirdos
Why are you obscuring the fact that it’s the TYPE of porn that triggers most normal people (i.e. loli and incest shit) rather than just porn in general?

Funny you call us weirdos when you weebs are the ones consuming pedo diddy ahh shit.

>>281283619
>The fake oldfags who only started watching raw/subs in the 2010s should have been gatekept. That's a fact. Bittorrent or bust.
If you weren't around for the days of FTP, IRC, and Direct Connect/Hotline, you're just a slightly older newfag.

>>281286437
Yeah but that's like comparing the Marvel fanbase from the 80's to post-MCU; went from being enjoyed solely by children/manchildren to everybody.

>>281287340
Less people than ever read Marvel comics, the new fans just watch movies, and they've been doing that since the 2002 Spider-Man movie.

>>281287340
Everybody was sick of those movies by the end, and only the hardcore weirdos followed their ecosystem beyond them being the movies that were out, just like Star Wars

>>281283146 (OP)
>Anime was niche
>In 2012
Lmao, anime stopped being niche with the big three

>>281287225
I did download some manga off irc so...

>>281283332
>Same thing happened with videogames.
God I can’t wait till the West fully colonizes all of Japanese/Asian media to finally get it up to acceptable, civilized western standards.

Your pedo incest shilling days are numbered Chang Ding a Ling!

>>281283146 (OP)
They don't in fact like "anime" at all.
They like a tame and politically correct heavily marketed product.
The soulless slop they consume will never inspire any anon to greatness as was custom at the time. If you don't know what I mean, you aren't even a newfriend.

>>281283332
>Same thing happened with videogames.
And that’s a good think! Can’t wait till the West fully colonizes all weeb media to get it up to acceptable Western standards.

>>281287871
and by “acceptable Western standards” I mean no more pedo and incest content.

>>281283332
>Same thing happened with videogames.
Collective Shout is coming for anime next.