Thread 281946867

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do not touch this thread janny, this isn't bait. I am actually genuinely curious how Jesus can be powerscaled.
https://youtu.be/dD_V70H9VRo?si=pg9hy8ury1K1M-bM

when He said in Matthew:
"Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and He shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?"

One legion is 6,000 angels, so if you simply multiply that number by twelve, you’ll discover that twelve legions of angels would include a minimum of 72,000 angels. But Jesus said the Father would give Him more than twelve legions of angels; therefore, you can conclude that there were potentially many additional thousands of angels available to Jesus the night He was arrested.

Onto our second question: What would be the combined strength in this number of angels? Angels are extremely powerful. The 2 angels of God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah in an instant. In fact, Isaiah 37:36 records that a single angel obliterated 185,000 men in one night. So if a single angel had that kind of power, how much combined strength would there be in twelve legions of angels?

This doesn't even approach the question of what if Biblically named Archangels are included in the legions Jesus could summon. Archangel Michael cast Satan down from heaven alongside 300million fallen angels. With Michael alone having that kind of power level it becomes quite difficult to powerscale Jesus. How does this compare to the average shonen MC?

You cannot powerscale him because he is God and is infinite
Infinite means unbound by finite measures

His physical manifestation can be killed.
But rest assured that you cannot get rid of him because he has already defeated death.

Death comes from the original sin. A sinless being cannot die

>>281946867 (OP)
we cannot have a real conversation here, because you are not gonna amuse the possibility of Jesus bullshitting

jobber

>>281946867 (OP)
If he is God, he is the most powerful being in anime, however if you're just going to judge him based on his feats then he simply has well above average endurance

>>281946867 (OP)
>He shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels
As far as we know, God never said that
Jesus just tried to use the "my daddy is a very powerful man bla bla" card

Jesus:
>if you do X, then my papa shall...
God:
>stick to the script boy!

>>281946867 (OP)
What if Jesus gets an archangel's arm?

>>281946867 (OP)
The God of the bible need 6 days for make One world and a day more for rest

The Hindu Gods create new universes only dreaming

>>281946867 (OP)
old testament god > new testament god

>>281946867 (OP)
Anyone who thinks that they can powerscale Jesus is out of their mind.

Spoiler alert
The eldest sons of Egypt were all killed by Jesus
Theologians have made the concessions that the "Angel of the Lord" in the Old Testament is Jesus before being given flesh. And one of the feats of the Angel of the Lord is struck down 185,000 Assyrian soldiers in their camp in a single night,

And yes, that really did happen. Babylonian sources wrote about how Assyria was assailed by plague, which saved Jerusalem

>>281947345
>One world
It's the whole universe

>>281947368
They are the person
The reason you guys think they arent is because OT was 1800 years of history
Whereas NT was just 3 years of ministry with some flashbacks to the past

God gave the Canaanites over 800 years to repent (They were first mentioned in genesis and were only destroyed in Deutoronomy)

Guess what happened to the ones who crucified Christ after less than 50 years

>>281947535
>Theologians have made the concessions...
reads like
>Flat-Earthers have made discoveries...

>>281947659
I am an atheist
are we gonna talk about Harry Potter next?

>>281947681
Angel of the Lord is the only angel who allowed people to worship him. Gabriel constantly tells people that he is just a servant, but this guy didn't

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4Zbfha_iX4

>>281947738
What is a woman :^)

>>281947781
an adult human female
funny you assume I am into faggotspeak
I would normally expect that from a kike

>>281947878
That's nice
This is still the fruit of atheism, though

>>281947919
I would blame communism if we are talking about the current problems

>>281947992
Also, a fruit of atheism

>>281948017
that was a jewish project

>>281948046
Nope. State-mandated atheism

>>281947345
>need

He's God tier

>>281946867 (OP)
Jesus died to a pissed off Roman mob via crucifixion because he was running around the town but-ass naked screaming about how he was god. He didn't die in some galactic hyper-war.
Even I could beat this guy's ass.

>>281947927
God was the the once the used the nerve pinch. Jacob admits afterwards that God spared his life. And it shows the character of God as someone you can "wrestle" with.

>>281948075
you would need to look up who was behind it.
otherwise this is pointless

>>281948186
You mean started it
Yes, Marx was a Jew, but there is no evidence of him ever living a religious life

Communism is the product of denying God but coveting his glory, hence why it is always trying to act like him

God is all-powerful = only 1 party
God is all-knowing = extreme surveillance
God is love = extreme propaganda

>>281948372
>God is all-powerful = only 1 party
>God is all-knowing = extreme surveillance
>God is love = extreme propaganda
This is what is happening under capitalism right now, by the way

>>281946867 (OP)
Well he's weaker than Goku

>>281946867 (OP)
>Is it possible to powerscale
according to the priests he's weaker than goku. not that human power matters in the afterlife though

>>281948372
it's all about controlling the masses

>>281946867 (OP)
To know how to powerscale a character you need to look at the character's universe, feats, and claims (with reliability). Our universe is somewhat of a mystery scale, but we can at least include the physical world and a metaphysical layer of world where concepts reside (many mythologies do this, gnostic christians do this, it's the easiest sell). Jesus as a character has no physical abilities, only hax, those being leveraging the power of God whose power is limited to this scale of universe and metaphysical verse. This means that Jesus's power is low multiversal, it essentially stops at the universe and ability to interact with alternate possibilities of said universe. Jesus is also limited in speed and thought to that of a common Man so cannot react to truly quick opponents, the question of if a character can beat him comes down to overcoming his conceptual immortality as he is not God himself but rather an idea born of and connected to God and God's extension, which implies he does not transcend past the conceptual level and thus immortality is limited to there.

So to beat Jesus, a character must have power or hax exceeding conceptual immortality and to resist Jesus they must have durability at the multiversal level or beyond, and alternatively another character wins by having higher speed than normal while also carrying a means to destroy conceptual immortality.

>>281948905
Yes, and the less faith you have, the more control you want. Why?
Because you no longer believe that there's someone who is overseeing everything, and thus, you are always paranoid that things can go wrong.
Which becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy

Atheism leads to madness

>>281949112
religion was also invented to control the masses ;^)

>>281949227
Control it away from becoming mad, sure

>>281946867 (OP)
Jesus was basically David Blaine.

Why would you even fight the coolest guy ever

>>281946867 (OP)
You really can't powerscale him. Jesus is the guy where people say he's just a craftsman, a tekton. Then you realize we today have an entire field called plate tectonics.

>>281946867 (OP)
What the fuck is this shit? Only Jesus was nailed to the cross. The other two were tied.

>>281947345
It’s more like Moses needed 6 days to comprehend genesis. God does not exist within nature or even time

>>281948372
The communist revolution was conducted by Jews. Most Bulsheviks were jews. Lenin and Trotsky were jewish. The revolution was financed by the Rothschild, who are jewish bankers based in the UK.

>>281951426
Everything was conducted by "Jews" because they are fucking everywhere, and they always conglomerate around places of power due to nepotism.

Nevertheless, this doesn't negate the fact that Communism always ends up becoming a state-mandated atheism that attacks anything that doesn't adhere to worshiping the party and the party alone.
Jews, Christians, Buddhists, Muslims Confucianists. etc

All are targeted because of the acknowledgement of the divine leads to "double thinking"

1. If you believe Jesus was God in man's flesh he is as strong as you can get in power scaling and only suffered and died as a choice.
2. If you believe Jesus was not God but still preformed miracles he is a fairly strong magician.
3. If you believe Jesus was not God and did not preformed miracles he was just a highly charismatic guy amassing a good number of followers.

All of the legions of angels are still a minor part of God's true and honest endless power. Those 72,000 angels x the combat feat of 185,000 men in one night would be 13,320,000,000 so Jesus's army of angels would be able to wipe out all of humanity in one night if so inclined.

>>281946867 (OP)
His mother was a fucking whore

>>281951757
Jew

>>281947171
>>281947208
No, it's the opposite, you fools.

He is being arrested, his disciples are freaking out, and he's telling them to fucking chill because if he needed to be defended, he'd call upon the angels, not upon a bunch of uppity fools.

>>281951757
Most angels are really not meant for combat
Michael is the only one we know of meant to fight

The overwhelming majority look like us and are sent only to deliver messages or stop something bad

For the most part, violence is an extremely rare thing used only after they rejected offers of repentance for decades or centuries.

>>281946867 (OP)
God, I remember when this aired, it was memoryholed for years until now.
Honestly I'm impressed they ever created this.

>>281946867 (OP)
>I am actually genuinely curious how Jesus can be powerscaled.
that doesn't make it belong on /a/. go back to deathbattle forums

>>281948748
>>281948806
>Acting like priest have any authority over truths of God

>>281958074
religious authorities have authority in matters of their gods, yes

>>281949107
>jesus is low multiversal
Ackshully, he would be planetary level at best. Maybe continental.
The bible wasn't written taking into account the real world but just an image of the world that the authors had. This being the ancient middle east, they barely knew about europe, asia, the sea around them and the sky above them.

The creation of this fictional world is probably multicontinental, highballed to planetary. Bleach characters could beat him, let alone CHADku.

>>281947071
>His physical manifestation can be killed
This should be the Center of the plot

>>281948111
>Roman mob
nice try rabbi

>>281947071
what a heretical thing to say

>>281946867 (OP)
Athiest here what powers to bible angels have again?
>Stronger than any human except that one guy who outwrestled one (note that peak bible humans can slay hundreds of men)
>Rips people's souls from their bodies or turn them to salt
>Plagues
What else?

>>281959130
Don't even try to scale an angel
They are above Humans in terms of the hierarchy

They were created like that precisely so they could take care of humans. Angels are like cops, doctors, and teachers
They are superior to a civilian in every way, but their existence is validated by our well-being

Angels are the children of heaven
But Humans are the children of God.

Their mission is to ensure our safety
Our mission is to return home