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Anonymous No.282239695 [Report] >>282239761 >>282239849 >>282239942 >>282240069 >>282240547 >>282240718 >>282240957 >>282244928 >>282247962 >>282248040 >>282248281 >>282248468 >>282248479 >>282248956 >>282252748
>Toei doesn't want to make a new Gash anime
>But they also don't want to give up the license so that other studios can make one

Why are they like this?
Anonymous No.282239761 [Report]
>>282239695 (OP)
Toei needs to explode
Anonymous No.282239803 [Report] >>282239954 >>282242755
Licensing is really confusing honestly. There's some series where every entry is made by a new studio, and sometimes at or around the same time (Strike Witches for instance). And in other cases one studio seems to have complete control over a property and nobody else can do anything with it. I guess it just depends on what is initially agreed upon.
Anonymous No.282239843 [Report] >>282239907 >>282239942
Why do we need a new one?
Anonymous No.282239849 [Report] >>282239955 >>282245477 >>282249633
>>282239695 (OP)
Did the anime end with the manga ending or before the manga ended? If you are asking about the sequel, they are probably waiting to see if enough people care to make more
Anonymous No.282239907 [Report] >>282239954
>>282239843
first anime didn't adapt the full manga and it was a poor adaptation full of filler and unnecessary changes to the plot
Anonymous No.282239942 [Report]
>>282239695 (OP)
Probably due to the licensing hell Gash is in now, but it's more likely that nobody has actually approached with an offer that all parties agreed on and so it just defaults to Toei who still make some merch for it if I recall.
>>282239843
The first anime isn't a complete adaptation and is a very loose one to boot.
Anonymous No.282239954 [Report] >>282240091
>>282239907
Was it popular enough or have the staying power to warrant a reboot? As >>282239803 mentions, licensing is honestly way too complex a subject for a bunch of throat singers on a mongolian basket weaving forum to really discuss.
Anonymous No.282239955 [Report]
>>282239849
The anime ended before the manga and never adapted the final arc.

Raiku (the manga's author) injured his hand and the manga went on a several months long hiatus. The anime caught up with the manga and Toei had to make up their own story (using Raiku's notes as a guideline) and gave the anime an original ending
Anonymous No.282240069 [Report] >>282240185 >>282245477
>>282239695 (OP)
Well Raiku went against the industry with his lawsuit and shit so they might be doing it out of spite and to make an example out of him. But I dunno anything about anything, maybe this is just normal for them.
Anonymous No.282240091 [Report] >>282240185 >>282240261
>>282239954
Its sequel is selling quite well, even much better than other shonen sequels like Boruto. Which is saying a lot considering the manga ended almost 2 decades ago and had 0 content between its ending and the start of the sequel
Anonymous No.282240185 [Report] >>282245477 >>282253759
>>282240069
This might be a major point since I think Raiku owns the Gash Bell IP because of it

>>282240091
Boruto is a dumpster fire though.
Anonymous No.282240261 [Report] >>282240415
>>282240091
>considering the manga ended almost 2 decades ago and had 0 content between its ending and the start of the sequel
That might have helped actually. That way healthy nostalgia supports it vs. Boruto when everyone was already fatigued with the ridiculous final battle arc.

Also helps that Gash is well-written and the sequel isn't delegated to another mangaka.
Anonymous No.282240415 [Report]
>>282240261
Then a similar case would be shaman king, the 2 sequels were written by the same mangaka, with years of distance between them and the original, but nobody gave a shit about either of them, not even with the (horrible) new anime remake and sequel. Maybe the wise move in gash bell 2 was using the same charismatic cast from original manga instead of replacing them
Anonymous No.282240509 [Report] >>282240565 >>282240990
Chapter's up btw, I'm guessing doing an arc all about new characters hurt the momentum/popularity.

I popped for the Gradius reference.
Anonymous No.282240547 [Report]
>>282239695 (OP)
>but doesn't want to give up the license
Well, obviously they did want to because they no longer have it. It's why the phone game got shut down.
Anonymous No.282240565 [Report] >>282240990
>>282240509
I thought the new chapter was amazing for showing just how much Gash has grown into being his kind of king and just how in-synch and capable he and Kiyomaru are
Anonymous No.282240718 [Report] >>282240758 >>282240772 >>282244753 >>282245477 >>282247987
>>282239695 (OP)
Toei doesn't have the license anymore and Raiku has been trying for some time to get a new anime adaptation done.
Pic. related is from a leaked new anime that was potentially cancelled or in production from some years ago.
Full leaked sheet here:
>https://imgur.com/a/zatch-bell-models-2020-usIAVAZ
Anonymous No.282240758 [Report] >>282240788 >>282240790 >>282245477
>>282240718
Why are his clothes and shoes green?
Anonymous No.282240772 [Report] >>282245477
>>282240718
Also more details on how the sheet was obtained and more information:
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JL41dzP_NtHoByyud0W32J58hBm33_tWyUlHe05ogzw/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.ms52fsidicqb
Anonymous No.282240788 [Report] >>282240813
>>282240758
his manga colors in most art
Anonymous No.282240790 [Report] >>282240813
>>282240758
Because that's the official color in the manga.
Anonymous No.282240813 [Report] >>282240829
>>282240788
>>282240790
Huh guess I memory holed it due to anime visuals. Always thought it was black
Anonymous No.282240829 [Report] >>282240850
>>282240813
I'd say the color in the anime was dark blue rather than black.
Anonymous No.282240850 [Report]
>>282240829
Very very dark blue vs black, let's not go there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx8-mysJG2s
Anonymous No.282240851 [Report] >>282246769
She got tanned for the toei anime.
Anonymous No.282240876 [Report]
Anonymous No.282240905 [Report]
I hope this eventually gets fully made and released.
Anonymous No.282240957 [Report] >>282240974 >>282241016
>>282239695 (OP)
This show was one of my favs when I was a kid. Surprised /a/ loves it so much.
Anonymous No.282240974 [Report]
>>282240957
Read the manga if you haven't. It's a genuinely great battle shonen with good character development
Anonymous No.282240990 [Report]
>>282240565
>>282240509
Storytime thread?
Anonymous No.282241006 [Report]
I reread the Gash Bell manga recently, for the first time since that storytime forever ago. I think I must be getting more emotional in my middle age because I teared up multiple times.
Reading it this time I kind of didn't enjoy the Faudo arc, too many demons got introduced all at once and it was hard to care about any of them. Raiku obviously likes doing the thing where the demon gets a flashback when their book gets burned, but I think it would have been a lot better to actually introduce the characters before they get involved with the plot. Riya and Alishie just showing up with no explanation and being accepted as good guys is really awkward, and all of the villains being complete randoms makes it really hard to care about the fights. I know it would have slowed the beginning of the arc down a lot but I think it would have made the ending a whole lot better. Like we get told that the demons who accepted Faudo's power are acting differently, but we've never seen them act normally so it doesn't mean anything. Also the way Barry and Ted showed up just for their fights felt really contrived. For the most part I really liked the manga though.
Anonymous No.282241016 [Report] >>282241124
>>282240957
I watched it years ago on TV dubbed and was pissed when they randomly stopped airing it before even finishing the first arc. Was pleasantly surprised how good the manga was when it was storytimed here years ago
Anonymous No.282241124 [Report]
>>282241016
The same happened to me. Watched it dubbed and got very disappointed they never continued it, not even completing the Zophis arc. My childhood self got very salty with that.
Anonymous No.282242522 [Report] >>282242721
New chapter when?
Anonymous No.282242721 [Report] >>282242899 >>282249628 >>282250680 >>282250749 >>282254957
>>282242522
today? https://comick.io/comic/zatch-bell-2
Anonymous No.282242755 [Report]
>>282239803
Isn't Dragon Ball owned by like 3 different companies? Who owns it after Akira Toriyama passed away?
Anonymous No.282242899 [Report]
>>282242721
Nice. I can never remember the schedule for this.
Anonymous No.282242954 [Report] >>282244562 >>282247536
If the new scanlators ever make it to the end of the manga I hope they keep this translation note
Anonymous No.282244254 [Report]
Someone dump the chapter or at least make a thread for it.
Anonymous No.282244562 [Report]
>>282242954
maaaaaan. that's disappointing.
Anonymous No.282244753 [Report] >>282245477
>>282240718
I bet this would have turned out like the Shaman King Anime. Not Biscuit Hammer bad but still disappointing. There's a reason some anime don't get off the ground.
Anonymous No.282244887 [Report] >>282245803
I can't believe there was official Leila bikini art and no one told me
Anonymous No.282244928 [Report]
>>282239695 (OP)
No one cares, Jimmy.
Anonymous No.282245477 [Report]
Gash is my favorite manga and ani-manga franchise period: I would be fucking pissed if we got a remake and Toei was doing it again

Give it to Bones

>>282239849
The anime diverged entirely from the manga's plot in the middle of the third major arc, then ended at the end of it's version of that arc without adapting the final 4th arc the manga had

>>282240185
>>282240069
That hasn't stopped him from getting merchandise and shit made toei still had to sign off on to some degree with their branding

>>282240718
>>282240758
>>282240772
>>282244753
We don't know the sheets were for an anime, and that document has a few minor errors that need to be fixed IIRC, though it';s mainly fine
Anonymous No.282245803 [Report] >>282246727 >>282246918 >>282248126
>>282244887
cunny
Anonymous No.282246727 [Report]
>>282245803
I hope she's still cute in the sequel even though she's like 21
Anonymous No.282246769 [Report]
>>282240851
I tends to forget she's mexican guess that is why they tanned her
Anonymous No.282246918 [Report] >>282247014
>>282245803
She did a flawless single leg takedown on a guy like 500 times her size btw
Anonymous No.282247014 [Report]
>>282246918
And we love her for that.
Anonymous No.282247536 [Report]
>>282242954
Based Raiku triggering chuds
Anonymous No.282247927 [Report] >>282248045
man
the manga is so good
and the anime is so trash. forget the ending, the budget and art and animation is just shit throughout the whole show
Anonymous No.282247962 [Report] >>282248029
>>282239695 (OP)
Isn't the english/Zatch Bell license for the manga completely fucked?
I'm absolutely jealous seeing the reprints and omnibuses other regions are getting.
Anonymous No.282247987 [Report]
>>282240718
Something might come out of this in the future but who knows. I remember Pluto’s character designs or something similar got leaked a year or two before it came out.
Anonymous No.282248029 [Report] >>282248919
>>282247962
Boatanon claimed an english publisher got rights to it but that was last year. With Baki and Billy Bat getting licensed I think it’s only a matter of time really.
Anonymous No.282248040 [Report]
>>282239695 (OP)
That’s honestly become a trend with all media and I don’t know why or how that’s good for money
Anonymous No.282248045 [Report] >>282248212 >>282248237
>>282247927
Without the anime we wouldn't have the songs though. Folgore would not be nearly as memorable of a character without the anime.
Anonymous No.282248126 [Report] >>282248248
>>282245803
Victoreem's girlfriend is so cute.
Anonymous No.282248212 [Report] >>282248237
>>282248045
It's true, despite the budget and quality it's full of sovl
Anonymous No.282248237 [Report]
>>282248212
>>282248045
DESTINY DESTINY
Anonymous No.282248248 [Report]
>>282248126
I hope she shows up in the sequel soon, the monthly releases are torture
Anonymous No.282248281 [Report]
>>282239695 (OP)
I missed the storytime bros...
Anonymous No.282248382 [Report] >>282248421 >>282248919 >>282253995
I cannot bring myself to care about the tragic backstory characters in the current fight. This is the first time in Zatch Bell 2 that I have not given a fuck about what's going on besides the fight which I can barely follow anyways. It's like he's rushing through this to get to some other plot point. Gradius option puppets is a cool power too, but the mamodo is like Ms Boing's design played straight with no visual identity at all and her human partner looks like an extra for a crowd shot. Neither of them are interesting enough so far for how important they're going to be considering the demon girl's powers are essential to the plot. That weird sasquatch dude they're fighting is an excellent design though. Peak Raiku beastie. Definitely one of his best monsters.
Anonymous No.282248421 [Report] >>282248919
>>282248382
Just show adult Laila so we can fall in love with her again.
Anonymous No.282248468 [Report]
>>282239695 (OP)
I tried reading the manga a while ago, its like a shotty version of Medabots but with a boy showing his penis every chapter
Anonymous No.282248479 [Report]
>>282239695 (OP)
I assume Toei might want to make this their next cashcow after One Piece ends in however many years. It would be a good move for nostalgia bait
Anonymous No.282248919 [Report] >>282250732
>>282248029
who is boatanon

>>282248382
>>282248421
It's a shame, I think ellenby and whateverthefuckhisname is have the making of a really compelling set of characters, like Kolulu but better, but the actual execution of how they were introduced just sapped any chance of us being invested in them.

It's weird, too, because Raiku normally is GREAT at selling you on the charm of characters you never gave a shit about before in like a single panel,
Anonymous No.282248956 [Report]
>>282239695 (OP)
They should, at least, keep the soundtrack
Anonymous No.282249628 [Report]
>>282242721
Thank you very much, anon!
Anonymous No.282249633 [Report]
>>282239849
no, Raiku actually sued over something or other and is generally blacklisted from the industry, so they're unlikely to ever make another anime no matter how well it does
Anonymous No.282250680 [Report]
>>282242721
This chapter was amazing, it felt like one of old chapters.
Anonymous No.282250732 [Report]
>>282248919
Because Raiku only gave minor characters enough of a spotlight for as much as us readers are expected to not give a shit about them. It is exactly as you say, Raiku gave nobody characters a single panel. Meanwhile characters like Rodeaux and Barry, characters we are slightly more invested in, get a whole chapter.
Elleby and Cuffy are getting several chapters despite barely knowing anything about them. Raiku is essentially asking us as readers to be immediately invested in these characters we know nothing about.
Also, there is no mystery in these characters. We are immediately fed all the pertinent information involving their situation and are given answers to everything before readers can be given the chance to ask questions, like rope magic and being explained how they escaped Beliel's surveillance. Being fed all the answers beforehand makes them 100x more boring because now there is no suspense, there is no sense of wonder, we are not kept invested due to unanswered questions. The only thing we are waiting for is for Gash to succeed in his fight and for Elleby to transfer her soul to a new body.
Anonymous No.282250749 [Report] >>282254761
>>282242721
who's going to storytime the raws
Anonymous No.282251099 [Report]
The device that sends Faudo back to the demon world
Anonymous No.282251204 [Report] >>282252061
Another thing that stuck out to me rereading the manga is how boring of a character Megumi is. Almost every other character is ridiculous in some way but Megumi doesn't really have anything interesting about her.
Anonymous No.282252061 [Report]
>>282251204
At least Megumi is not annoying like Suzy.
Anonymous No.282252748 [Report]
>>282239695 (OP)
Where's my girl Cherish??
Anonymous No.282253759 [Report] >>282253791
>>282240185
Will Boruto ever be cancelled? It would be amusing seeing Kishi with two projects cancelled.
Anonymous No.282253791 [Report]
>>282253759
No because Super is on Hiatus forever.
Anonymous No.282253995 [Report]
>>282248382
I just want to see Kid again reeeeee
Anonymous No.282254761 [Report]
>>282250749
What's the point if translations are out?
Anonymous No.282254957 [Report] >>282255508
>>282242721
Rashirudobros...
Anonymous No.282255508 [Report]
>>282254957
It's incredible that it both jobbed and got the job done in a single chapter. Kiyomaro is determined to make that shit spell work.