Thread 283011093

Beyond comedy.

I don't understand why the CGI in the Rebuilds is so shitty. It's not like Anno doesn't have the money for better.

>>283011093 (OP)
What's with the influx of Eva threads lately?

>>283011141
He probably thought "Manchildren are gonna eat it up, who cares?".

>>283011093 (OP)
I don't think I can despise anything more than I do the rebuilds. I was rewatching EoE and the scene where Rei merges with Adam happens and all I can think of in the is how much more retarded the rebuild version of this is. I can't even watch the original show and movie without this piece of shit worming its way into my mind. Fucking 3D giant Rei's down syndrome face.

>>283011166
>lately
We've been bitching about Eva longer than we've been bitching about Dragon Ball

>>283011093 (OP)
It's honestly amazing how rebuild of evangelion, after 4 movies over more than a decade, has literally no legacy at all except for smug pseudointellectual commentary on escapism, which wasn't even the point the movie was trying to make and is contradicted by the fucking ending of the last film taking place in a literal escapist alternate reality

>>283011166
Zoomers getting older and relating to the themes of isolation, difficulty forming meaningful human connections and feeling like they were set up by the prior generations to clean up their mess

>>283011325
It just felt like Anno victory lap. God. When he was miserable and lonely he was making simpering but ambitious art that was boundary pushing in the narrative.

Then he got married, and all the hard to animate stuff went into computers and everything he has animated since has been some condescending 'fuck you, got mine/the problem with kids today' bullshit. This is not a new opinion from me either, that's how I felt about ME!ME!ME! and Girl too. Oh, my, guys it turns out the media I produce robs you of your mortal youth, and corrupts your intimate relationships. Also, did you know high school girls are involved in a for-money hookup culture with business professionals? How shameful, not like me though. I'm happily married, crushed all my competition and can retire comfortably. Shinji gets a manic pixie dream girl and fucks off from his friends and intimate relationships. It's not running away! It's fuck you, got mine. The real lesson that life has taught me.

>>283013073
I liked Shin Godzilla
And that's about it for Anno's modern output
Funnily enough, you can actually map the cast of ShinG very closely to NGE's own cast in the roles they play in the story

>>283011325
that's just among overly online people like us, the actual legacy is evastore.

>>283013169
>I liked Shin Godzilla

Even that was kind of preachy.

The original Godzilla was a cautionary tale. The super weapons of man awoke a super weapon of nature. One man had developed his own super weapon, and the fact that he had done it, haunts him. So he resolves to destroy the weapon, himself and Godzilla in one go. Leaving the world helpless if a Godzilla were to ever return. The moral being Japan sacrificed it's honor rather than permit the world to plunge into nuclear war, but that nuclear war may yet come, and if it does there is nothing to stop it.

In Shin Godzilla they dump a bunch of concrete in Elvis' mouth. Like 'the solution to this problem is better infrastructure!' Yeah, I get that Shin Godzilla is more probably about the Fukashima disaster, and yes. The answer for that problem is better infrastructure, but I still find it to be preachy and anticlimactic.

>>283013260
shin was incredibly blatant with its message but you still somehow managed to miss it
it was about calcified government actors and unhealthy seniority culture

>>283013260
I thought it was more about useless bureaucrats sitting with a thumb up their ass stuck in the brainstorming phase of a solution to a problem, the cause of the problem, or even debating if the problem exists at all, while armageddon stares them in the face and grows harder and harder to stop with every minute they waste

>>283011325
anno telling his 30 to 50 something audience "uhh... Maybe the Evangelion was getting a job and a girlfriend all along? lmao to get a job maybe you man children?" while they've been in tht workforce presumably for at least 30 to 20 years at this point was really retarded. Especially factoring in how manchild Anno never grew up and stayed a teenager mentally suspended in the 80s.

>>283013361
>>283013378

No. I got that, it's why the movie feels like 90% boardroom meetings. But they don't beat Godzilla until the hero takes the initiative to bust through the bureaucracy and provide the infrastructure needed to freeze Godzilla in place.

>>283013260
>>283013169

Oh, and Godzilla minus one is a fucking masterpiece. Like, we faced the onslaught of nuclear annihilation. Now, let go of an obsessive and dangerous honor culture. Pull back from the brink. Build a life. That is more courageous. THAT's a good Godzilla moral.

>>283013378
and in the end they throw up their hands and say well the americans can handle it, i guess. it's very on the nose

every whining complaint i read about the rebuilds seems so motivated by very specific bitterness to the point that they intentionally refuse to engage with any element of the story presented and instead inject it full of meta-commentary specifically about anno.

>>283013429
>and provide the infrastructure
If you ever wonder why so many shows and movies are so blatant with their messages, just remember that people like this are your main audience.

>>283013444
I appreciated how at least there's a bit of nuance when they finally come to an agreement on a solution that seems logical and simple, but end up having to cancel the plan once they realize that a bunch of innocents would be caught in the crossfire if they give the go-ahead

>>283013478

Fuck you! Most of the time I talk about Shin Godzilla I deal with people who want to argue to my wits end that the movie is not about cutting through red tape and bureaucracy during a catastrophe and the other minority are dicks like you who just had it explained to them, but want to front like they had it figured out the whole time and are like 'god they had to make it idiot-proof obvious for dummies to get it, didn't they?' Fuck you, crass, condescending PC master race dickheads!

>>283013468
there's idiocy on both sides, the mari = moyocco thing being the most egregious since anno didn't even write the character at all, but a lot of the criticisms are completely valid

>>283011325
The eva brand relies on figurines of overly sexualized underage girls. Then Anno made another one for fan service purposes alone, he is the last person that could talk about escapism.

>>283013073
Despite everything on your pick RoE shitted on Shinji for free every fucking step of the way

Has Khara actually made anything good? Rebuilds 1 and 2 were okay but 3 & 4 along with Gquxxxx were shit

>>283014396
With one nonsensical plot point and contrivance after another. And what lesson does Shinji withdraw from his stifled relationships? Is it development or reconciliation? No. It’s fuck these people. I’m leaving them all. Fuck you. Got mine.

>>283014440
Ryuu no Haisha
Ochibi-san

>>283011325
>>283013410

There's a special kind of irony about a director who tells his audience not to obsess over something when he was the one who brought it back to be obsessed over. Fans were content to let it be over.