Thread 283032617

Chapter 147
Last before hiatus

Next chapter: never

>>283032617 (OP)
More fucking hiatus? How long is it this time?

>>283032833
1000 years

Why is this random enemy soldier getting a flashback? Did a single person ask for this?

>>283032898
See ya beyond hiatus's end

>>283032836
What a nihilistic little bitch.

this season feels disjointed

>>283032617 (OP)
The characters in the manga look more asian than in the anime.

>>283032673
>Held
More like Schurke, amirite?

>>283032833
Once again, it is an indefinite hiatus. This time they gave a reason though. Health issues.

I N D E F I N I T E

H I A T U S

>>283032905
He's the leader of the antagonists for this arc. Him getting a flashback was inevitable. The placement is questionable though.

>>283032777
He already killed this elf, right? Why does he need to kill the rest?

>>283033015
Sort of, but at the same time they said both will keep working on the manga until it's officially back

>>283032617 (OP)
>>283032917
Is Kanehito Yamada a pen name for Togashi?

so the goddess came to the world and created magic and monsters for some reason and lowe found something that can undo that?

>>283032898
>The mentor is named Lehrer
Bravo Nolan

>>283032917
>Best Dark Warrior is a Himmelfag
>Just wants to get rid of the elve warmongers after his whole family got killed
He did nothing wrong.

Based motive and goal but how the fuck is he actually going to do this?

>>283033061
Nah, we still get 6 chapters a year, instead of one chapter every 6 years.

Himmelfags orgasming rn

>>283033070
>>283033090
yeah, that's the big question right? How can he rewrite the laws of the world. Solitar even said that's something only the goddess of all creation can do.

>>283033090
this scene reminds me of season 1's intro where flamme points to the point of light in the sky which is actually aureole. i wonder if its the same object. does magic come from aureole?

>>283033128
We'll never ever stop winning.

>>283032693
Punished Hero
A man denied his idealism

>>283033147
Apparently his strategy is Total Elf Death

>>283033147
Goddess split her mana among the elves or whatever and they need to kill them and decipher a secret spell in the scriptures to undo the shit the goddess did to change the world

>>283032917
Given how old these dudes are in the present, wouldn't Himmel still be alive at this time? Also Frieren would've been wandering down south around this period. Was she really just out fucking around in the woods while people were dropping magic nukes on each other?

>Lowe only experienced magic as a tool of death and destruction
>Is a big Himmelfag
Oh I wonder where this is leading

>>283033015
>>283033022
>>283033055
Thanks for the info. Well that sucks, but I wish them well. I expect it's something beyond the usual mangaka lifestyle issues, since we just came from a large indefinite break. I hope they can recover and it won't be another Welcome to the Ball Room situation.

>>283033147
Goddess created magic by opening the portal to heaven, demons are a side product of that, the manga will end with Frieren closing the portal forever so she can't see Himmel ever again, las line of the manga will be
>In the end, I was the sousou no Frieren all along

>>283032917
thanks for dumping, see ya in 8 months

>>283033225
one day we'll get to see what frieren did in those years she was wandering the world. watch her have been defeating world ending apocalyptic threats.

>>283033295
she'll join himmel and be plapped for eternity

>>283033225
Would be funny if those disasters from Loewe's past were actually collateral damage from Frieren's battles.

>>283033374
it was me lowe, i killed your parents. meeeeeee!

>>283033070
>>283033147
Are we absolutely sure that the Goddess isn't an ancient memory of Serie who looks almost identical to her?

>>283033404
REMEMBER ME, LOWE?
WHEN I KILLED YOUR BROTHER?
I TALKED JUST LIKE THIIIIS!

>>283033331
Don't be silly, elves can't go to heaven

>>283032617 (OP)
what killed the hype ?

before today
>demons are magical creatures that evolved with humanity
>also magic was folk spells

today
>magic is a recent phenomenon
>it suddenly appeared out of the fucking aether for no reason at all one day

whats with the retcon?

>>283033022
The second season production killed them, uh?

>>283033330
after 50 hiatus, maybe.

>>283033443
Anon, if Serie was the goddess she wouldn't be so weak and useless.

>>283033048
He has no interest in killing all the elves. He somehow intends to rewrite reality by killing Serie, causing magic to stop functioning entirely.

>>283033494
He said that magic was introduced during the Age of Myth, which was presumably around the time the Goddess was active.

>>283033494
>magic is a recent phenomenon
Recent in this case is several thousand years

>>283033456
the knife ear goddess literally made heaven

>>283032734
I like we can finally confirm this "town-destroying" level of combat magic does in fact exist. Fans have long thought Serie is capable of this, but we'd never seen anything like it actually used. Even Frieren's fight against her clone would only destroy like a few houses at a time.

>>283033330
>one day we'll get to see what frieren did in those years she was wandering the world
Breeding with Mimics

>>283033590
age of myth was 1500+ years ago. it doesnt say how long it lasted.

Himmel?
our HERO

Look at those dumb fucking ears
Cute dress though

>>283033077
>Just wants to get rid of the elve warmongers after his whole family got killed

He doesn't care about elves, he wants to get rid of all magic as he believes it is the main cause of wars, or makes wars worse.

>>283033600
>the knife ear
i like this one, he can stay

>>283033662
Humanity's best saw this and never ever recovered.

>>283033225
>Also Frieren would've been wandering down south around this period.

Frieren's wanderings were limited to the Central Lands at this time. I'd wager she stays out of human conflicts. She usually fights monsters, only fights humans when she has to.

>>283033639
We don't know how the scriptures were bestowed or if it happened during the age of mythology. The scriptures themselves contain stories about the age of mythology, so if nothing else we know the age was before this.

>>283033760
The scriptures are just one of those books Serie creates to give people her spells

>>283033494
>demons are magical creatures that evolved with humanity

They evolved after humanity, since they adapted to feed on humans specifically.

>also magic was folk spells

Folk magic is simply magic that was developed by small communities and individuals rather than a united discipline. It was what magic was during the time when openly studying it was forbidden by human countries, but that doesn't mean it is how magic originated.

>pls don't kill magic
>How else we gonna make flower fields
There, I spoiled the arc ending.

if there's no magic, you will just have insane powerful warriors rampaging the world ?

>>283033225
Frieren didn't go down south as far as we know, but yeah, she was just dicking around ignoring shit.
>>283033639
No, anon. Not sure where the wiki got that idea. 1500 years ago is when the goddess returned to the world to give people the scriptures. The scriptures themselves are encoded in the forms of stories from the age of myths. They aren't a history book given to people who had just lived through that era. By the time she gave people the scriptures, the age of myths was already in the distant past.

>>283033775
Goddess magic is distinct from any magic she has been shown to be able to use. She even implies she cannot use the curse breaking magic that priests use (namely when Macht questions how it was possible for her to reverse his curse).

>>283033821
Yes. Total Demon Death, Total Elve Pussy Death.

>>283033821
Warriors also use mana, so presumably they will become weaker.

Note Lowe claims his plan will cause mana to leave everything, not just mages.

>>283033494
>>283033794
Keep in mind that "humanity" in this case doesn't necessarily mean humans specifically. Like when Serie talks about humanity's ancient magic and she's talking about a spell that takes a century to learn, she's talking about elves. On the other hand when she talks about seeing the birth of human civilization, she's definitely talking about humans.

>>283033883
Certainly, but its unclear if elves existed before the rest of humanity (i.e. humans and dwarves). Even a thousand years ago Serie stated humans had already been around for a very long time.

Regardless, that it is so matter-of-factly stated that demons developed from monsters that mimicked human voices, makes me think there must be some historical documentation of it and it didn't happen in some distant age where humanity consisted of only elves.

>>283033879
okay, good luck with dragons and other creatures, but that might part of the magics, maybe

>>283032624
>muh plan
he's gonna die?

>>283033839
>Not sure where the wiki got that idea.

>>283033855
>Goddess magic is distinct from any magic she has been shown to be able to use.
Of course it is, Serie foegets how tobuse the spells she's given away, that's why she had to use the shitty precog dream magic instead of full future sight

>>283032624
I thought lands specialty was clones, why is he throwing lightning now?

why is ubel struggling with routine so much? it should be a cakewalk for her.

>>283032693
How would he react if we told him how humanity ends up without magic?

>>283034116
There Heiter only talks about how 1500 years ago humanity received the scriptures. He doesn't say anything about this also being the age of mythology.

>>283034156
in theory all mages should block physically attacks easily as long as they have prana. in theory any tag team of 2 mages can kill a warrior by having 1 put up a shield while the other blast them with whatever magicks

>>283034125
That's when she transfers the use of a spell to enable people to use it immediately. Goddess magic is encoded in the scriptures, and people have to still learn to decode and use it. Even then, only certain people can do more than basic goddess magic, no matter how skilled they are with other magic.

>>283034139
He needs offensive magic as well, and the shadow warriors wear Zoltraak-resistant gear.

Did you forget how he paralyzed that mage in the exams with a touch? The anime made it clearer that he used an electric spell.

>>283034278
That just means she gave away the spell that let her create multiple use books and has to use the spell for single use books instead

>Frieren at the Hiatus
The manga ends here. These japanese cold ridden middle aged men really took a year long break, dropped three chapters, and succumbed to the itis. You will not see another chapter.

>>283034156
She explained the multiple reasons why, did you not read the chapter where they were fighting?

>>283034267
They can't tag team here though, and the warriors they are fighting smash through defensive magic with ease.

>>283034116
yes, anon, the chapter never says what they are claiming there. So again, not sure where the wiki got that idea.

>>283034336
>These japanese cold ridden middle aged men really took a year long break, dropped three chapters, and succumbed to the itis.

The artist is female, the writer male. Also we got 7 chapters, not 3.

Further, assuming they are telling the truth, they are still working on the manga and this hiatus is about creating a new schedule going forward that works with their current health issues.

>>283034336
>>283034445
Also the break was like six months, not a year. Honestly, how did you get every detail wrong? Was this copied from a post about some other manga?

>Löwe is called "Held", translation: Hero
>his teacher is called "Lehrer", translation: Teacher

>>283034519
Absolut Kino

>>283034519
I like it

>>283034519
yeah, that's how the series works. Occasionally you get a slightly odd name like Sein (to be) or one that might have a different meaning than you might think at first like Ubel or Solitar. But generally it's all very on the nose name-wise.

>>283034586
>one that might have a different meaning than you might think at first like Ubel
what do you mean
Übel is übel

le frieren face

>>283034608
Ubel can mean evil, but it can mean sick, like sick in the head. As we've seen more of her, her name is probably meant to be the latter.

>>283034519
How do you say "hiatus" in krautspeak?

>>283034683
dauerwerbesendung

>>283034683
Donaudampfschiffahrtselektrizitätenhauptbetriebswerkbauunterbeamtengesellschaft

Lemme tell you about atomic bombs, buddy

>>283032905
Himmel wank. We know how awesome he is already.

>>283032734
this spell looks similar to the one used by Frieren when she "fought" Zart
no I'm not saying these scenes are the same battle (wouldn't even be possible time-wise since this flashback takes place after the journey)
but it is a spell Frieren knows

Instead of Serie, the Goddess's identity is most likely to be Frieren (through time travel).

>>283034267
>prana
Go back, Fate-fag.

>>283035028
Her identity is actually far more likely to be what it says on the box, the goddess who created their world, rather than an upjumped mortal.

>>283035028
Sounds based, Frieren deserves to be a heckin goddess.

At this point I think we may know who made all those damned statues...

>>283035103
She created the world in the sense that by introducing magic she made the old world into something new

>>283035028
That male elf knew the goddess and he didn't recognized Frieren as her

>>283035145
>That male elf knew the goddess
No he didn't.

>>283035128
Not the goddess of magic, not the goddess of recreation, the goddess of all creation.

The goddess was actually the demon king. Frieren and co killed her.

It's the boat all over again...

>>283032693
>magic became a thing because the laws of the world literally changed
wut

>>283032801
>>283032917
>himmel inspired two men into eventually trying to kill his waifu
The hero Himmel didn't die for that.

>>283033225
>ningens dropping magic nukes on each other
Not Frieren's problem.

>>283032693
When Frieren has the blood of her disciples on her hands, it will be kino when it's revealed Held was always right.

>>283034023
Dragons and other monsters are all made out of mana.

>>283033022
I know Japanese people, especially mangakas, are always about being private and all that, but they could at least reveal us what are the health problems the writter and the illustrator are going through.
If it's something really serious of if it's something that's not, but requires care.

>>283035718
They turn into mana when they die. All monsters do, even demons. But while they live, they grow and have internal organs and biological processes.

>>283032624
>I know, its all going according to plan
Speedreader here, does Lowe have precognition, mana detection or is he just being an ominous villain here?

>>283035975
I'm not really reading the manga, but I remember some spoiler about some guy from the South having premonition skills (a feat developed by southern people), and it's him.
He's playing games with Serie, who also possess such skill.

>>283035975
The implication of Serie's discussion with the Emperor is that her enemy, Lowe, either had precognitive magic himself, or is at minimum, taking cues from someone who does. Both he and Lehrer are notably from the South. Though again, both are also warriors.

If it was Serie who orbitally nuked Lowe’s countryside, would you root for him?

>>283036509
Lies. Serie couldn't do it because she never does anything.

>>283036509
No, because Serie misusing magic would not equal "magic should not exist."

>>283035885
They're prioritizing the anime and searching for a somewhat believable bullshit excuse to spare Serie in this arc.

>>283036509
I'm already rooting for him
TOTAL DEMON DEATH
TOTAL DAGGER EARS DEATH
LONG LIVE HUMANITY!

>>283036904
Again, he doesn't seem to have anything against elves. He wants to get rid of magic.

Frieren will talk no jutsu down Lowe by showing him memories of Himmel loving the flower casting spell.
That's obvious.

>>283036509
no way, the right to bear magic shall not be infringed
hope a demon pops out of the shadows and ganks him

>>283036948
>Again, he doesn't seem to have anything against elves
>killed that great elf mage
>wants to kill Serie
>Frieren was on that extermination list
Ehhhh, I digress.

>hiatus
2 were not enough

>>283034683
Hunter X Hunter

Frieren will chimp out after they stain on Himme's name

the hiatus is obviously so they can work on the goddess monument movie

>>283032917
What a pretty weak chapter. This hiatus is going to be hell.

>Dude lost his family due to them being killed via massive magic attacks back when he was a kid.
>he believes that killing Serie will rewrite the world and eradicate magic, both for humans and demons.

ok... so the dude, while he was a man from the southern region, he didnt had the divine premonition powers of the Hero of the South. he doesnt want to kill magic because LOL MAGIC WILL KILL THE WORLD IN XXXX YEARS. he wants to avenge his parents... what. a. faget.

but i guess this confirms Serie is not gonna die. if Serie's really that linked to the magical forces in the world that killing her would eradicate magic as lowe believes, then that means Serie wont die, because without magic, there wouldnt be a manga.

>>283037225
dont you mean 'Cripple X Cripple'?

why do people still like that shit as to justify wasting the 8ing Capcom Vs team and Arcsys for a fightan? theres not a MC anymore!

>>283037483
Incel motivation. I hope Ubel has her way with him to teach him.

>>283036509
No. Fuck them kids. Also this
>>283036767

>>283036992
Both Lowe and Serie will admit they were wrong about magic at the end of this arc.

>>283037483
>he wants to avenge his parents..

I didn't get that vibe at all. He's convinced magic is the root of conflict, plus his whole town got destroyed despite apparently not even being what the spellcaster was targeting.

>>283032693
>the world we be more peaceful if we get rid of magic, it is a weapon of mass destruction
>uses the basic principles of mundane reality to manufacture weapons of mass destruction again LIKE A BOSS
what a retard. what an absolute fucking retard

ok give us ACTUAL PLAUSIBLE ways that lowe could remove magic from all humans and demons

>>283034183
Would probably kill himself
Yid world is boring

>>283037749
Besides starting a pogrom and murdering every person with any magical talent whatsoever, it's impossible and beyond a fool's errand. It'd be like saying he wants to purge the world of air. Magic exists everywhere and removing it would doom us all.

>>283037749
there aren't any, he's delusional. an omnipotent being decided that there would be magic, all he can do is seethe.

>>283032917
>Wants to rid the world of magic due to personal trauma
Bet he doesn't give a flying fuck if people or demons all just find new innovative ways to brutally murder each other.

>>283037749
Cause a disaster on a level that forces the Goddess to appear, then kill her

>>283037842
isnt that naruto's plot

>>283037914
Sort of? The plot for the third ninja war is really out of left field, but it's gather the super magical beast nukes, which fails, then turns into starting a world war to gather all the ninja-wizards in one place to feed them to a magic statue-plant-monster thing to cause the rebirth of a magical alien and let her harvest of the life force and magic on the planet. It never made a lot of sense, got weird fast, and didn't really link up with the earlier stuff very well

>>283037842
the expectation:
>we're gonna kill this god! we are well prepared!!!
when the god shows up:

>>283033147
>>283033090
the goddess of creation seems to be an elf or was originally an elf, maybe they are going to ascend/elevate another elf to that status to rewrite the laws/rules of the world.

>>283033148
yeah of aureole is actually heaven, the lore seems to suggest magic came from the gates of heaven being opened by the goddess of creation, and also mana/magic and demons seem to have been a byproduct of that action.

>>283037983
They find the elf version of Rincewind from Discworld and somehow ascend him to godhood to kill magic. Fund it

>>283033148
yeah if aureole is actually heaven, the lore seems to suggest magic came from the gates of heaven being opened by the goddess of creation, and also mana/magic and demons seem to have been a byproduct of that action.

>>283037983
>>283038017
Elevating people to godhood to solve problems seems a pretty bad idea. Seems like it would be very likely to just cause more problems.

>>283038060
yeah you think these zealot fanatics think beyond their stupid ideas?

>>283037749
My hypothesis is that he has some unseen ally who is set to cast a spell that requires the sacrifice of a mage as powerful as Serie. This spell will revert reality back to before it was rewritten in mythical times.

Basically they will use magic to destroy magic.

Course, I find it just as likely he is being used and the whole idea that magic can be gotten rid of is just a lie he's been convinced of.

>>283037961
Madara and Obito's plan wasn't to get rid of magic/chakra but rather to put everyone into a eternal dream world so they could no longer harm each other with magic/chakra. Course then it turned out that they had been manipulated all along to be the pawn of a greater force.

>>283037749
It probably doesn't matter too much. He's obviously going to fail even if it IS possible because without magic most of the premise of the entire series is gone.

>>283038225
yeah he's going to fail but finding out how he plans on removing magic will unlock major lore for us

since lowe's original name is Held (Hero), then im guessing he's a hero class. that would already make him much stronger than a typical warrior since heroes are on another level.

>>283038313
>since heroes are on another level.

I don't think they've ever established that, or even what defines the "hero class" at all, since the ones we've seen just seem to be warriors with perhaps some magical ability.

>kills Serie
>removes all magic
>eradicates all the demons/beasts
LOWE IS MY HERO

>>283034902
it's also a spell that Frienen isn't supposed to know in the flashback,
so she probably got involved with Minus after the defeat of the demon king
or developed something similar independently.

>>283033724
>Frieren's wanderings were limited to the Central Lands
Was this at all confirmed? I know this was what she told her comrades as they split up
but even the best-laid schemes of mice and men often go awry.

>>283034156
She just kind of got unlucky that Routine found that huge shield
which both prevents Ubel from meeting the activation conditions for her BDSM magic
and blocks the cutting magic.

I FUCKING HATE villains whose motives are "Thing made my life bad" "Destroy thing forever"


I wish I could tell every person like that to just grow up

>>283034267
barriers consume too much mana to keep up indefinitely and warriors are much faster than mages
and they have faster reaction times.

>>283035145
>>283035181
It's not definite how old Kraft is or whether he met the godess in person, but he handled the conversation more
like a modern priest than someone who is trying to bait a conversation on the good old days or whatever.

>>283035885
>I know Japanese people, especially mangakas, are always about being private and all that
It's pretty funny to demand someone else give up their privacy to strangers for no real reason
while you yourself are making no such attempt.

>>283036509
the flashback implies it's Minus, but Serie is the type for person to casually give away
a spell of mass destruction without much care for the consequences.

>>283036999
he hates mages because of their freedums!

>>283037591
Serie is always correct, that's simply her role in her story. As an asside just because Serie flashed a grin when Wirbel told her he considers: "magic [...] a tool for killing". doesn't nessesitate that she shares that view.

>>283038656
yeah his motivation is shit tier babby's first villain, where the author is just finding a reason to shoehorn in a warped perspective of "thats what himmel the hero would do"

>>283038664
>while you yourself are making no such attempt.
My life is irrelevant. If I die tomorrow, only my mum, my grandmother and my gf will be sad. And my gf will eventually find another man and heal herself.
Those 2, however, have the expectations of millions of people.
Such is the price of success.

>>283038851
>Such is the price of success.
*doesn't pay it*
nothing personnel kiddo

>>283037983
>the goddess of creation seems to be an elf or was originally an elf,
There's no indication of this at all. If the goddess had rounded ears would you suggest she was a human or originally a human, or would you just accept that she's a goddess?

>>283034683
Depends what you want to say.
"Pause" - Break, rather short time of interruption.
"Unterbrechung" - Same as Pause, but a longer word.
"Auszeit" - longer break, could mean a few days to never ever.

Well, while Lowe won't be able to wipe out magic because this manga isn't the story of Frieren, the short and powerless elf, it's still worth noting that if he had any chance of success at this whatsoever, Schlacht would have foreseen it and put pieces into play to make sure it would never happen. Magic is too important to demonkind.

>make flower field
>"oh my god magic doesn't have to be used for killing..."
>curtain drops
>thank you for watching Frieren at the Funeral Season 4
bravo..

>>283039026
what if he does wipe it out but it can be restored, and the fourth season is all about frieren and friends having to restore it?

>>283037749
we don't know all that much about the metamagical foundations of the world though they might not be super plausible here are some ideas.
>maybe Serie is somehow a lynchpin anchoring magic to the world itself?
>the godess monument stable timeloop implies some form of predestination and potentially divine favor directed at either Frieren in particular or (select) elven mages in general. so maybe the godess will expose herself when angered?
>Lowe's predestination could potentially see thousands of years in the future and all he might be aiming for is a point in time that far exceeds the scope of the story?
>the godess scripture might contain a spell that turns the logic of the world upside down or even just modified version of the spell that Lore tried to use on Fern in their battle?
>maybe Lowe made a deal with a greater power (a powerfull demon or elven mage) who has promised to grant his wish in recompense for the contract killing?

>>283033022
>hiatus
>3 chapters
>hiatus
Frieren x Frieren

>>283034683
it's a latin loanword, so it's exactly the same in german. der hiatus.

>>283039031
>the flower petals turn into little blades
>they piece the baddie and kill him
>his corpse fertilizes the flowers
>years later more flowers grow more vigorously

>>283037749
Using series massive mana pool to cast a reality warping spell?

>>283032693
>Lowe grabs the hilt
>>283032917
>Lehrer grabs the hilt
Kino.

>>283039240
>>Lowe's predestination could potentially see thousands of years in the future
Pretty unlikely. We basically just had it spelled out that among all humanity, the hero of the south's precognitive magic was the best but there's in indication it was superior to Schlacht and his ability to see all possible futures up to a thousand years in the future.

>>283038957
she's very distinctly elvish in appearance, and there are more than a few imagery contrasts with elves shown so far that compare and contrast interestingly with the goddess imagery.

>>283039031
And people are going to clap and call this the pinnacle of anime.

>>283039277
It was 7 chapters. Just felt like less since not a lot of time passed in the story thanks to all the flashbacks and exposition.

>>283038740
Himmel is becoming less of a character and more like a plot device to make people do things.

>>283032693
oh he says they will lose their mana, not that they will delete magic from the world. so magic wont go away, just the ability to use it will go away. are those anti-magic crystals going to come into play?

>>283037983
Serie is the goddess, it was all but outright stated with some of the paneling a while back

>>283033236
It's leading to him getting distracted by a flower field and zoltraked in the back by Fern.

>>283034519
>Lamp repairman is called "Lichter", translation: Lights.
Yeah the names are getting a bit silly at this point.

>>283032624
when did this happen? did he lose an arm?

>>283033090
He'll have Chainsaw Man eat Serie, who is so magically powerful she now counts as the concept of magic itself

>>283039565
nah if serie was so great why cant she use goddess monuments like frieren? check. mate.

>>283039676
You must have missed a chapter, speedreader-kun.

>>283039676
Anon...

>>283039519
That's what happens when you've been dead a long time. Not even joking. See real life. You can be some really famous person who accomplished great things, but over time everything about you as an individual will cease to exist and you'll just become an idea that pushes people or is used by people.

>>283039807
>you'll just become an idea that pushes people or is used by people.
it's so much smaller than that. people don't become ideas they are vessels for ideas, and once we pass the idea will have long spread to others in which the same idea grows further and thrives. Much like for Fern, magic didn't have to be her occupation, heroism and compassion and joy and all the great qualities that Himmel exemplified didn't need Himmel, it could have been anyone ... it could be you.

within the confines of the Frienen story the hero Himmel still feels alive to me, because Frieren is still in some ways getting to know him. And she'll see him and talk to him one more time when the story reaches Ende.

>>283039012
Unterbrechung is the most fitting one. You can even turn it into Dauerunterbrechung to make it fancy. I love composites.
Auszeit is mostly used for sports.

>>283039676
he's a ... shadow dancer.

>>283033090
imma gonna guess it was demonlord's endgame to obtain pisspiss with humans.

a magic nuke to end all magic.

>>283038664
>have faster reaction times.
Fern is superfast. so is Ubel. Land is suppose to have super fast thought processing.

>>283033483
You did anon. You did with your shitty thread comment

>>283037982
>god shows up

>reference to nuclear weapon level destruction
>morally grey character inspired by protagonist
seen it already

Does the goddess blessing count as 'magic'?
If magic is eliminated, would the blessings remain, or would they also be wiped out?

>>283040251
They use mana, so yes.

>>283040251
church/holy scripture magic is basically lostech magic written by the elf goddess.

I really hope Sein does some badass deus ex machina shit and solves everything.

>>283040342
>badass deus ex machina shit
his dream magic was already a deus ex machina and sort of breaking 4th wall.

Can I be honest? This arc just feels like forced drama.
I get that Yamada wants to turn Serie into the Rengoku of this arc and make it Frieren’s version of Mugen Train, but the assassin group is just a bunch of random, nonsensical retconned characters.
And the whole “assassinate Serie” event came out of nowhere, zero buildup, zero context, zero emotion.
I never wanted Frieren to turn into some shonenshit drama.
Why can’t we just go back to the usual formula, Frieren, Fern, and Stark taking on requests, fighting monsters, and getting rewarded with some dumb little magic spell?
In most series that’d be boring, but for Frieren, that’s exactly what makes it special.

What is she smiling about?

>>283040378
>“assassinate Serie” event came out of nowhere, zero buildup,

the part where Frieren gang met the old man Shadow Warrior was the buildup.

>>283032617 (OP)
Everyone looks really expressive in this cover

>>283039676
It certainly looks like he did.

>>283040378
I feel exactly the same way.
It feels like they’re forcing unnecessary tension and drama into the story, and I can sense a kind of desperation from the author.

Illustrator

>>283040378
Yeah... this arc kind of fucking sucks. The assassins are not interesting and the conflict is too overblown. It would have been interesting if we had simply encountered Serie and her entourage in the midst of some political maneuvering WITHOUT the threat of assassination hovering over everyone's head for no fucking reason whatsoever. I would unironically be more interested in watching fictional politics than these stinky battles.

>>283040378
>I get that Yamada wants to turn Serie into the Rengoku of this arc and make it Frieren’s version of Mugen Train
>Why can’t we just go back to the usual formula, Frieren, Fern, and Stark taking on requests, fighting monsters, and getting rewarded with some dumb little magic spell?
Most retarded post in the thread by a long shot.

himmel wouldn't have put his series on hiatus

>>283040378
Macht arc felt like an important event the party happened to encounter naturally along their journey, the flow of the story was organic.
But this assassination arc feels awkward and contrived in every way.

Deux ex field of flowers is happening
Frieren always wins

>>283040378
The arc was badly executed but I'm sure it's a buildup to something really important down the line. Considering the hiatuses, I bet the author didn't want to do 15 chapters of some introductory exposition.

>>283032734
>Lowe grow up in magical Detroit
Fucking wizard nigga doing drive by casting

>>283039644
He's called Richter you imbecile, which means judge.

>>283040378
I liked this chapter and Lowe's motives but however it will tie into killing Serie(or if that was just a distraction) looks like it'll be quite a stretch
Introducing human enemies will always be a mistake as long as the protagonists are continuously contrived out of killing them

>>283033494
Magic advancements after the demon king died seem massive, flying wasn't a thing for non-demons and zoltrak was unblockable back then. Give it another century and humans will be casting nukes.

>>283041405
Imagine the magical mishaps then

This entire arc could have been avoided if he was alive

>>283032617 (OP)
>all volumes end at the chapter xx7
>hiatus after 147
So they really just forced the authors to clench their buttcheeks enough to release a volume for Season 2 debut? I really hoped we'd run until the end of the arc, but we're not just in the middle of an arc, but also in the middle of three fights and in the middle of a flashback.

I miss Macht...

>>283041483
Duh

>>283040678
>>283041445
same guy?

What the fuck is Gorilla's problem, why did he betray his adventure boyfriend?

>>283041488
Lernen and Denken wil resurrect him to protect Serie, trust the plan.

>>283041488
Solitar will come back and reveal she learned how to use Di Agolze, becoming Macht 2.0. Trust the plan.

>>283032617 (OP)
Another fucking hiatus? Just cancel the series at this point. This writer is pissing me off.

>>283040488
>>283040150
>>283039754
>>283039705
i just realised mangadex stopped providing updates for frieren lol must be why all the others mangas that i follow doesnt have updates as well

>>283041946
Mangadex is dead. You need to move to a different site.

>>283041886
>Just cancel the series at this point.
And nothing of value would be lost

I miss Frieren...

>>283033061
no
yamada's actually good

>>283041946
>if the topic isn't mangadex, I must find an excuse to make it about mangadex

minus is my new waifu, she's replaced ubel for me

>>283041992
No that is not true. I want to see frieren marry himmel and solve the demon crisis that plagues humanity. But that can't happen if they spend all this time on characters like serie.

Also, I reject the idea that if you kill serie, you remove magic. They would have to burn all the books and kill all the users of magic. It just doesn't make sense. There is no payoff for killing serie. The motivations for the actions of the shadow assassination group make no sense.

>>283033022
ITS OVER

OWARI DA

C'EST FINI

SE ACABO

>>283042382
>Also, I reject the idea that if you kill serie, you remove magic. They would have to burn all the books and kill all the users of magic. It just doesn't make sense. There is no payoff for killing serie. The motivations for the actions of the shadow assassination group make no sense.
You can't reject anything retard, we're nowhere near the climax of the arc and are still learning about their motivations and plan.

>>283042380
whats that behind her?

>>283042446
A throne.

>>283032801
What did he eat

>hiatus
God fucking damn it, this is why I always try to keep some manga that actually stays consistently published, and more importantly gets a consistent translation

>>283032617 (OP)
>Last before hiatus
Perfect timing, I'm on vacation for three weeks so hopefully it'll be back by the time I get back.

>>283042459
reminds me of that post on reddit earlier where the guy was wondering if minus was the leader of the shadow warriors, like some inverse variant of the continental magic association. serie has her throne as does minus.

>>283042472
>I'm on vacation for three weeks so hopefully it'll be back by the time I get back.
Get a load of this guy

>>283042472
Lol. Lmao

>>283032617 (OP)
This current arc is basically the author reacting to the positive reception of the anime
>let's bring back Sein
>people love Ubel x Land? let's bait the shipperfags
>people also loved Fern and Stark's dance? let's show it with more than 1 panel this time
>Serie needs more attention, make her the target of some bullshit assassination

>>283042567
lots of other characters had their turns before ubel and land though

>>283042423
Fuck off tranny we are 20 chapters plus into this arc and know nothing about the shadow warriors other than they want to remove magic and by killing serie they will accomplish their goal.

>>283042567
The main issue is that that after whatever they do with season 2, they are tapped out of material because of neglecting the manga for so long and going on hiatuses for the past 3 years. Instead of a 2 year wait for another season, it's going to be like 5 for season 3 unless they make it one cour or go anime original which would kill the quality of the anime. Stuck between a rock and a hard place.

>>283037749
Set off a massive explosion around a huge cluster of anti-magic crystals. The fallout will cover the world in anti-magic dust.

>>283042649
>Fuck off tranny we are 20 chapters plus into this arc and know nothing about the shadow warriors other than they want to remove magic and by killing serie they will accomplish their goal.
Well yeah, their plan is supposed to mysterious and we've gotten some important lore drops anyways. You're not going to get a good picture of what the plan is until Frieren's group actually confronts Lowe.

>>283032898
Whats he gonna do against a town annihilating particle beam, deflect it?

>Serie's students that have learned prophecy magic are all dead
>Serie's assassination attempt are likely masterminded by someone who can use some kind of prophecy magic
>Serie dies by getting her neck cut, not being able to see what cuts her
>Ubel's thing is invisible slashes
>Ubel's thing is also being able to copy magic with some shenanigans required

Is it a bit too much of a red herring to think that Ubel had killed Serie's disciples, got their prophecy magic, and is now trying to kill her?

>>283043022
Serie already said she detected no mana, so no its not Ubel.

>>283043118
maybe its lehrer. we only now found out that he was a great warrior too.

>>283041108
yeah, this is correct. On the other hand, his name was a clearly intentional reference to the Richter scale, so it's one of those funny ones that isn't quite literal, even if he is a judgy guy.
>>283041405
They are. Humans made three massive advancements in magic after the war. Reverse engineering zoltraak, inventing a defensive spell to stop zoltraak which is also a "good enough" defensive spell for many things, and somehow making a half-assed spell that copies demon flight, even if they don't understand it.
Having said that, it's worth remembering that the greatest human magic civilization is on the decline, and the number of mages in other lands is dwindling.

>>283042567
Sein was always going to come back, anon.
>>283042728
>the crystals glow super bright after they've absorbed mana
I can't believe they plan to get right of night time and fucking blind everyone.

Solitaire could have invent guns for demons.

>>283043591
>I present you the greatest weapon of all: the MA4 Individual Combat Weapon System.

>Frieren stops Lowe by showing him the beauty of magic and so saves Serie's life using the 'foolish' spell she tied to mock Frieren for
The ultimate mogging is upon us

>>283040413
she has the biggest cock in the Series

>>283040413
She could nuke the world twice and also make a damn good laundry spell

>>283043832
Deep down Serie knows her limitations which is why she brought a bunch of chaotic retards to help instead of solving it her own way

>>283033022
I would rather see writers put their series on hold instead of rushing a bad story out like we usually see and have already seen in this manga. Whether the health problems are real or just a way to soothe crazed otaku

>>283032693
How does killing serie eliminate mana

>>283032713
Aura was a good girl, providing humans with a common enemy to unite against.

>>283044462
there's something that we dont know about the mythical era. something that ties together serie and the world being rewritten.

>>283033070
if that's the case then aura's mom is the goddess

>>283038060
oh yeah??

Has this series gotten anywhere after the anime? Or is it just filler arcs with characters appearing and leaving, ie the author milking the success while the actual plot is not getting anywhere.
It shouldn't take 10 fucking years to reach the Demon lands.

>>283044848
there is no filler in frieren

>>283044848
what you really meant to ask was are they still on namek

>>283035885
>but they could at least reveal us what are the health problems
Sometimes its better not knowing

>>283032734
>>283032757
*accidentally nukes your city*
oops!

>>283032777
What was Minus' problem?

>>283045224
Probably got pranked by Milliarde.

>>283044913
how cheap is it to hire a full-time waifu to take care of a mangaka's needs, health, and urges?

Is frieren just a petite elf or she just hasnt hit elf puberty yet?

>Character named MINUS is secretly behind the plan to subtract magic from the world
I clapped

>>283036135
Hope its the latter. Because it is already bad that he wants to avenge his parents, but if he is indeed using magic of his own for this plan would make him a HUGE FA-KING HIPPO GRIT!

>>283032624
Plan means KEIKAKU

>>283033048
>this elf
Unknown, actually. The story says that she was defeated, but leaves her status in ambiguity. I don't believe that it is ever said explicitly that she is dead, just that she disappeared. This could just be because nobody aside from the perpetrator witnessed the slaying, but that seems dubious. You wouldn't hint at a character like that and say that they disappeared unless you intend to introduce them at some point.

>>283037749
Since other anons have been mentioning making a deal with someone powerful, there is one demon who could have a role to play. Tot and her curse which is suppossed to affect the entire world in a century or so.

>>283047983
The pursuit of magic is integral to demon life. I don't think a demon would agree to damage magic in such a way unless the deal stipulated that only humans were affected... and I don't think that a human, even one who hates magic, would accept a deal where humanity loses all magic and the demons keep theirs. Unless he's being completely played for a fool, I guess.

>>283048030
Yeah, him being played for a fool is what I was getting at. And whether he's allied with a demon or not, someone is playing him like a pawn.

>>283042567
If that's the case I hope they find some way to include Aura in the story going forward. Maybe via some long lost sister who looks and acts the exact same way. Who can then be added to the party as some kind of dullahan mascot.

>>283046191
>elf gets introduced post mortem
you could say that's minus one elf.

>Remove all mana from the world
>No more mages nor demons
How is this a bad thing?

>/a/ hated this chapter
what the FUCK happened?

> kid character loses his parents
> acts completely unfazed, not a single tear in his eyes

This is getting silly at this point.

>>283048641
In paper, its not a bad outcome, you are right.

The problem here is that Lowe is doing it from a place of vengeance, and he would rather screw the world over, as well as millions of innocent people who have been using magic for good, than try a better option than 'murder the most powerful magic user in history and remove an essential resource to everyone living in the planet in one fell swoop'.

Tldr: Lowe is being an asshole, and a really whiny one at that.

>>283048641
>Life actually requires mana
>Everyone dies

>>283032693
FF16 ending?

>>283048676
In isolation it's not a bad chapter but having a 7month hiatus to then come back and just give 6 chapters of exposition flashback to then sign off with 'see ya, don't know when it's going to be back but make sure to buy the new volume and all the merch!' kinda rubbed some people the wrong way

>>283049189
FF6

>>283048641
Yeah fuck everyone who relies on mana for healing and making a living.

'ate magic
love Himmel

Simple as

>>283049936
wait until this chud learns that Himmel was in love with a magic user and a powerful elf the likes of which he probably holds no love for at that.

>>283049936
>kills the manga

>>283050184
I think I might be about to abosutely mindfuck you so putting this under spoiler tags but Hitler liked dogs, was kind to people who worked for him before everything went south and helped popularize mother's day.

>>283033443
Considering the Demon King and the higher demons think the army exists to fight the goddess and the demon king is implied relative to Serie I doubt they are anywhere close.

Chances are people just think the goddess looks like an elf because the elves glazed themselves by claiming such and no one else remembers

To be honest if Mages were smart they should have just implicitly held the world hostage like old edition DnD wizards.


Yeah good luck killing me fag my giant floating city tied to my lifeforce will kill millions when I die you genocidal monster.

Well at least we found out who the real big bad boss is.

>if he wins magic stops to exist
well good to know he will fail

>>283050695
Dear god...

>>283047983
Unlikely. Despite how they were introduced, most demons are anti-social retards. They couldn't manipulate a human out of a garbage can.

No time for the manga, the artists is too busy being made to draw art for card games and keyrings

>>283051015
>ボードゲーム
huh

>>283048641
He didn't say demons would be gone, just that they'd have no magic. Now granted, without their magic, even though they're physically superior to humans, they'd eventually get wiped out just by getting ganged up on by vastly superior numbers.

>>283050360
that's a complete non-sequitur and also not news to me. i was using the term chud ironically because it's funny, i'm not part of whatever political faction you think i am. go be annoying somewhere else

why's everyone so obsessed with Aura?

>>283051015
Aura made this series popular. Her ghost will forever be around.

>>283051950
sexual attraction

>>283051950
Evil woman sex! SEX!!!

>Obedient woman
>Evil
Pick one.

>>283037749
Serie is the goddess and killing her removes all magic from the world

could frieren just cast el dorado on whole city and deal with it later since she understand the spell ?

>>283052481
Frieren cannot cast Di Agolze.

>>283052577
counterspell is so boring

>>283040551
So, it's actually the illustrator who's sick?

>>283043832
That's exactly what is gonna happen. And it'll cure Serie's Tsundereness too.

>>283050860
Lugner pulled it off for a while.

>>283052481
who's to say? even if she can't she might be able to petrify it as she did with Qual.

>>283052577
that was Soltair's assumption

>>283053003
Yeah but he's a born liar

Demons = "Mazoku" (evil group). Magic = "mahou" (evil law, ie, the law opposed to natural law). Specifically "ma" comes from evil spirits. So it’s not just evil as a concept but evil as embodied by a negative entity.

Imagine demons were translated as "witches" and magic as "witchcraft". Then you can get a clear idea of the concept at work. Would you think the goal or eradicating witchcraft from the world is a fundamental good one? That’s the moral challenge the manga is making to the audience.

>>283053078
kek yes his name gives him away but they all are, hence that little demon girl crying for her mom that doesn't exist

>>283053070
That was the author laying it out for people who still didn't get it, but Frieren cannot cast Auserlese or Di Agolze. And the justification is straight up neurological differences. Frieren would need a different brain to be able to do it.

>>283053469
nta but it's strange that they are inconsistent on this because humanity seemed perfectly able to reverse engineer and utilize zoltraak. obviously it's a much simpler spell, but doesn't that indicate that demons and humans aren't operating THAT differently? the demons are psychotic and violent by nature, but outside of that are not really that different from humanity... if they were completely alien, we wouldn't even understand why they do what they do.

>>283051015
AURA SEX

>>283033494
what are you smoking? because i want of that too...

>>283033055
"Funeral of Freiren"

it's over the series is dead

>>283033307
8 months?
8 years

>>283037749
he is gonna go NUUUCLEEEEAAAR
hr is the man who sold the world

>>283036509
magic is a tool, but he probably has some kind of secret oh-my-science/magic ace in his sleeve

>>283053817
Correct. If demons were truly alien then humanity wouldn't have been able to copy their flight spell. Logically speaking with enough work all demon spells should be usable by mankind.

>>283048641
Imagine if I as a renaissance era soldier decided that I hated guns so much that I believed combustion should no longer exist since they killed my friends and actually went through with it. Firstly I would have destroyed the sun, secondly I would have prevented the development of cars or any form of oil or coal power and thirdly I would have killed all humans as the reactions within our cells are mostly forms of combustion. This would of course be an unspeakably retarded decision from even the persepective of someone at the time, but that's what he's trying to do.

>>283049805
automation comes for all jobs

THEY ARENT REMOVING MAGIC
THEY ARE REMOVING MANA

>>283048528
goddess gives her a chance to live as a human and she makes a cameo

>>283054565
Same difference

>>283044462
She's the wellspring of magic learning and culture.
If she died then the system would be totally gutted.

>>283054565
>they aren't removing the car
>they're just removing the motor to it

>>283054533
automation must be easily turned on if it be like that

>>283055013
Removing mana would also kill all monsters (including demons), since they are made of it.

magic is the great equalizer. of course those who are naturally stronger and taller than others want to remove magic since it creates a level playing field.

>>283054565
The exact nuance is "魔力" (maryoku lit. magic strength) vis a vis "魔法" (mahou lit. magic law). Löwe isn't highlighting a technicality that hints to the nature of his plan. He's just emphasizing that people and demons will lose their magical ability and the world itself will (consequently) lose its magic.

>lose its magic
oh no, what will the little witch academia do

>>283055241
why are you using unofficial translations? you argument is immediately dismissed.

>>283055241
How could demons lose their magical power without just dying? They're made of mana like all other monsters, aren't they? Is mana itself not magical in nature?

>>283055241
>Posting scanlations
It explicitly says mana

>>283033443
We see Frieren pray to the Goddess, she wouldn't do that if she had a clue it was Serie.

>>283055241
魔 is “evil”. Mahou = “evil law”, or the law that opposes natural law. I actually got that line from Slayers (the Lina Inverse novels).

>>283055418
My read is that Löwe/Held doesn't know all that much about the "hows" of magic so to speak. He's just a strong and fast guy with a sword who sees how it's used against his fellow man and wants no more of it. Or so I say but he is the first character to bring up that the workings of the world were re-written during the age of myth.

I cannot comment on the translation choices of the scanlator. She/they are credited as Misa Japnese Ammo so maybe you can contact them on X/twitter or maybe via (electronic)mail if the publisher recieves fanmail or something.

>>283055418
I thought that was strange too — but the SWs are probably being gaslit. They don’t understand that they’re sold on literal genocide. In the positive outlook of Frieren as a story, that’s straight-up bad. No human character would accept genocide no matter the reason.

>>283040055
> Himmel is the ultimate self-insert

No one people wank him as HIMmel.

>>283043832
stupid sexy elves

>frieren
>fern
>serie
>ubel
>and the rest!
How did they create the greatest waifu lineup ever?

>>283055758
>pic
strong "we want the FMAB audience" vibes

>>283053817
I mean, in literally thousands of years, they've reverse engineered one demon spell. And in the end Solitar still only said that it was specifically the magics of the seven sages that were incompatible with human brains, not any others.

MAGIC SHOULDN'T EXIST!
WE MUST GET RID OF IT!

Who'll die first: Serie or the author?

Why was Minus so evil?

>>283056239
>>283045252

How many hiatuses have we hit since season 1 ended?

>>283041108
I wonder if the Japanese did the R/L thing

>>283056262
not my chart, so I don't have 2025 stats
also there probably wasn't a week 53 to skip

>>283056071
I wonder upon what basis she could even claim this since demons self-reportedly have a very poor understanding of the human mind. Not very scientific for someone with scientific aspirations.

>>283055096
Frieren would agree with this

>>283056071
And yet Freiren was able to replicate part of a demon sage spell (the reversal) even better than Macht himself. All evidence shows that replicating demon magic is entirely doable given enough effort.

>>283055778
Anon, this series views demons as objectively evil. Everyone would welcome their genocide.

>>283056763
The entire speech was Solitar explaining why Macht should in fact be prepared to deal with Frieren being able to reverse Di Agolze. So no, that doesn't counter what she says at all.

How will you be filling the erefu void during the hiatus this time, bros?

>>283056831
Stress eating and being a grump towards my Stark.

>>283042252
Who are you quoting retard-kun?

Honestly I feel to see the problem with the disappearance of mana. Humans can obviously develop without it and monsters and demons wouldnt be a thing

>>283055778
Demon genocide is just about the best thing that could happen in the world of Frieren

So the title for the new vol's SE short story is Statue for Sein. That's the third one after Fanfare for Frieren and Sparkle for Frieren.
I'm still curious what the other two stories in the new collection are going to be though.

>>283032777
>Blame magic for the loss of your shitty backwater town
Hope this retard gets isekai'd to WW2 japan and gets a glimpse of nukes.

>>283032757
>grizzly remains
>grizzly

>finally a good native isekai
>author dies
We can't have nice things after all...

>>283058357
>slop

>>283058158
>town got nuked because bears were hiding in it

>>283035885
Are you really that naive...? It is codename for they want to take a break. You cant seriously exist...

Hey, /a/. I'm actually a demon.

>>283032624
>a blob sneaking up behind frieren!

>>283032693
Star butterfly would be proud

>>283058158
>the kid's dad

>>283032617 (OP)
>Last before hiatus
WTF AGAIN

need more stark chapters elfs are boring and overpowered

>>283032624
wait frieren and the other mages can use magic or summon their staves, but stark...what's he going to do without his axe?

>>283059699
Same thing Denken did when he had no mana.

>>283059699
Considering that he can swing an axe with enough force to cleave an entire cliff face in twain, you can be relatively certain that his fists are lethal weapons when it comes to human sized targets.

need to see stark using all his might to slug fern right in her fat yapper

>>283059699
Grab a weapon from the suits of armour like Ubel did

>>283060694
If you're saying for him to punch her in the mouth, her head will go flying like a baseball.

Frieren's author is a talentess hack that got carried hard by the animation team that elevated his native Isekai slop into art
Dungeon Meshi still remains king of fantasy manga and it will retain that crown during our lifetime

>>283062059
Frieren sold 10million volumes before the anime even started airing

>>283062113
>Native Isekai slop sells
No shit, japs are morons

Manga sales just exceeded 32 million

>>283062719
that means it has\s now outsold chainsaw man and is closing in on one punch man
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_manga

>>283062937
it has now*

>>283062937
>sold more than CSM over the same period that had new volumes released and a new movie out
lmao

>>283062719
>sales
*circulation
i.e. it includes volumes printed but not sold

>>283060694
She won't feel a thing, the fat will absorb all the impact.

>>283034267
Magic-canceling stones embedded in a weapon. There.

>>283064592
lowe is a hero, so he uses magic too

>>283040087
>Unterbrechung is the most fitting one
Yeah, but Auszeit sounds cool as fuck

>>283037749
A) Goddess made a spell and placed it on Earth, so all living being suck mana naturally found in the air, it's then calcified in a body somehow. Some people suck better. Destroy the spell, and living beings will stop absorbing it.
B) Make a spell that continuously drains mana from everything, but just enough, so you won't die.
C) Kill the God.

I think demons shouldn't be exterminated. A triumphant human civilization should put them in zoos.

>>283040942
https://youtu.be/j-2ZxldMO-M

>>283065112
>A) Goddess made a spell and placed it on Earth, so all living being suck mana naturally found in the air, it's then calcified in a body somehow. Some people suck better. Destroy the spell, and living beings will stop absorbing it.
maybe the the closer you get to ende the more powerful your magic potential is because the source of magic is located near there. its why magic is more common in the north, and more powerful magic users are found there.

>>283065567
since lowe is governor of the northernmost province that borders demon territory then maybe its how he could be aware of such a thing

Serie has experience with human men.

>>283032693
>Serie will lose the ability to cast magic
There was an anon that called it a month ago.
Said that it's a quite popular plot device lately.

>>283032713
And now we turn from demons to the evil humans.
I don't buy the health issues. The creators just got the call, it'll become woke globoslop from now on.

>>283066237
>The creators just got the call

>>283033262
>I hope they can recover and it won't be another Welcome to the Ball Room situation.
Let's hope. For both...

>>283066237
Evil humans has been a thing for a while. That's why Glück found Macht's company preferrable to the vipers' nest that was Weise upper circles.

>>283056239
Her theatrics in the South were purposely excessive in order to turn people against magic and create useful idiots like Lowe who could be easily radicalized.

>>283067107
false flag

>>283032624
Ubel bros, I thought our girl was WILDLY unpredictable. Do we just want to fuck her at the end?

>>283066237
The whole gimmick of the series is that it's post-demon lord, having demons still be the main antagonists would be odd. It's already bad enough that Frieren's dusted 3 elder demons on what was supposed to be a chill adventure.

>indefinite hiatus just as an arc enters the final phase
why do mangaka do this
at least wait until the lull between arcs

>>283069325
Might be delaying it so they can have the exciting climax stuff happening at the same time as the anime

>Held is German for Hero
>He's from the South

Imagine dicking around so much you burn yourself out

>>283069518
The climax where Frieren conjures a field of flowers (with a neutral facial expression) and then Lowe says he didn't know magic could do that before killing himself (with a neutral facial expression) is going to take awhile to write, storyboard and draw please understand

>>283069500
Hitler was from Austria which is south of Germany.

>>283069500
>>283070265
I don't think anon was thinking about that hero, but rather picrel. Although they're obviously not the same people, if Lowe was at some point be considered an hero on the south...

Thoughts on Kouya Toufu?

>>283032917
>bad guy is fan of Himmell too
Finally something in this manga besides
>demon evil
>being old sucks

>>283071448
Some of the art is nice, some of it is gross.

>indefinite hiatus because both the artist AND the writer are dying
MAOU WON
KNEEL HUMANCELS

>>283071598
what, you don't like dogs?

>>283072104
I didn't see anything with dogs, and no.

>>283071401
Yes this is what i meant. Obviously not fucking hitler. Lowe/held is the second coming of the HOTS, and just so happens to have high level future seeing, like the original HOTS

>>283033022
STOP IT WITH THE HIATUSES ALREADY

>>283074351
Frieren the Mage
Fern the Whale
Stark the Architect

>>283074351
The hiatuses will stop when Fern gives up sweets.

>>283032617 (OP)
I don't like where the story is currently going and even the author doesn't know where the current story is going

i wonder how mad the author is that aura is probably a major reason why many watched the show and only care about her

>>283075533
He's very confused from what I hear

>>283033022
FRIEREN-SAMA, DON'T LEAVE ME!! DON'T GO!!!

>>283075533
People have their opinion on how pros think formed by interaction with fanartists and stuff like webcomics. But most mangakas who publush in magazines have a way more professional outlook on stuff like that. It's probably something along the lines of "that's weird, but whatever, as long as it sells".

>>283072104
No one does. It's done purely out of being a troll, like all forms of bestiality are.

>>283075533
Im not sure the author is even aware of this stuff and if he is he certainly doesn't care.
He rarely ever references Aura and didn't include her in the time travel arc, but brought Solitar back

>>283032617 (OP)
I'm beggining to see the "always bored" complains.
This cover reeks of fake melancholy.

>>283033022
This is such a bad scene. Indefinite hiatus could mean 2 weeks, 2 months, 2 years or never again. It's a shame he feels he has to do this, if I were him I'd take a year off and leave the story in the hands of my assistants so I still get paid.

>>283077857
Let's hope he lives to finish the story.

>>283032617 (OP)
>Last before hiatus
Nyo...

Can the fucking people writing and drawing Frieren try this thing called vitamin C and sleeping 7-8 hours on average?

>>283035885
>but they could at least reveal us what are the health problems
Fuck you, no they dont. Most faggot think sitting hunch over a fucking desk isn't actual backbreaking work. None of you faggots deserve to know shit. Consume what they make, and deal with it. Kill yourself faggo.

>>283075533
No one gave a fuck about Aura. You're in a waifu bubble. Touch grass.

>>283032693
>if we get rid of guns there will be peace
retards, every time

>>283075533
Ubel Uber Allen

>>283033022
You all know the author is going to die before finishing this like Miura right?

>>283075462
then I think about witch hat girls in festival namek and realize that things could be worse

>>283056974
you, retard. explain what mental illness made you think "omg, I need to bring up this site outta nowhere RIGHT NOW" and think you're in position to say anything.

>>283032693
So everyone will just butcher each other with swords and spears?

>>283056974
Don't you realize it's annoying and you sound like a tourist?

>>283080230
>Touch grass.
why you talkin about the back yo head when you get in a dance with me bruh

>>283083320
>>283082776
I see the redditdex defence force is at full power today. I hope you waste of oxygen are at least being paid to defend that trash

>>283041980
Yeah I just realised thanks for the warning,. Impressive how awful that garbage site is now

>>283083666
>redditdex defence force
Yes, you. Everyone else has completely forgotten about it like a sane individual. We don't feel the need to even think about it. Meanwhile you...
>enter Frieren thread, find comfy Frieren discussion
>hey have you heard about the dex?
>enter a cool storytime
>hey have you heard the latest news about the dex?
>enter yet another thread
>may I speak word about our lord and saviour the dex?
It's clear you're a paid shill desperately trying to keep the place alive and you can't so you are constantly bringing it up as some kind of desperate tactic to keep it in the memory of people who all already forget that shit, you don't want anyone to forget about that shit.
Let's assume you aren't. The topic of the thread is Frieren. You decide to talk about my poop. Hello? You're shitting up the thread.

So that's it. We can't even have a discussion about Frieren. You need to derail the conversation to ask to be spoonfed that you don't have to use a dead site-over and over again. You think it's "adorable" that you're spoonfed because you're tourist and can't imagine anyone calling you out on being this desperate for spoonfeeding because that's the state of nu-/a/.
>Yeah I just realised thanks for the warning
You better be thankful someone deigned themselves to spoonfeed someone who's this much of a faggot.

>>283084141
what "discussion"
this website is just people insulting each other back and forth
there ain't no "discussion" get over yourself

Lmao the redditdex defence force fully melting down after getting called out

>>283075533
>The author never predicted horny virgin men would like the sexy female demon, ha

>>283056287
They did it with both him and Ubel/Uber.

>>283034608
The Japanese can also reference Uber, which fits as she's obviously being built up as a significant later villain or significant member of the plot otherwise when we see her gaining more power with every appearance.

>>283085142
either that or because she's always giving someone a ride for benefits

>>283062059
>Dungeon Meshi
Mogged by Helck.

>>283085170
That's true.

>>283032693
Is this guy stupid?

>>283042694
We're gonna get the GRRM treatment and get a million character spin offs and prequals rather than finishing the main story

And I'll tell you all about it when I see you again...

>>283088256
About mangadex being trash and dead?

Decisive culture war victory