Thread 283635890

>>283635890 (OP)
well-written =/= good
And
>protagonist
While Madoka is the viewpoint character, in many ways the protagonist of the show is really Homura. Madoka is the prize that everyone is fighting over, so the show is about her, but Homura is the one taking action and moving the plot along.

>>283635890 (OP)
>You can regret being tricked, but never regret doing the right thing

>>283635983
pseuds are mentally ill

>Show is literally named after Madok
>Noooo, my waifu is thetrue mc, you just don't get it :(

>>283635983
If by "taking action and moving the plot forward" you mean fucking up at every turn, yes.

Madoka is the one who uncovers the depth of the meguca dilemma and finds a solution to the problem of suffering, in as much as one is possible.

>>283635983
FPWP

>Petty and self-centred.
>No lengths he won't stoop down to in order to get the last word.
>Leaves no sin (against him) unpunished.
>Never improves, never compromises.
>Still somehow comes off as likeable due to being surrounded by far worse people and putting them in their place/occasionally getting put in his place.
Perfect comedy protag.

>>283636054
None of that would happen without Homura constantly pushing, scheming, and putting herself on the line. She’s the one making the story happen; Madoka just provides the final solution.
>>283636024
Is Akame the protagonist of Akame ga Kill then?

Madoka is the MC of the series
Homura is the MC of Rebellion
Imo
But then again, who fucking cares? What does it matter who the MC is?

>>283636024
Zeldabros we won

>>283635983
>the viewpoint character
This and her being the titular character + the one who ultimately saves everyone at the end makes her the protagonist, no matter how much more consistent agency and initiative that Homura had throughout the narrative. Now Homura was the protagonist of Rebellion, so you get to call her that for at least one of the Madoka installments.

>>283635890 (OP)
Wait, wasn't her movie supposed to come out this year? The fuck happened again? The fuck is even Shaft doing?

>>283636401
They are still thinking how to continue the history without making the traitor demon a villain

>>283636401
It was delayed to feburary 2026.
And considering the news drought it's likely getting delayed again.

>>283636401
I will only believe this movie exists when I'm sitting down and watching it.

Sayaka was more of main character in the tv series than Homura

>>283635983
Homura is as important as Mami, Sayaka, and Kyouko. All 4 are important because what they’ve all went through help Madoka find an answer. Homura was never a special exception until the movie.

>>283637509
I’m not denying the others matter, but Homura isn’t just another magical girl -- she’s the one who loops time, fights to protect Madoka, and shapes every major event. Without her, the story doesn’t happen the way it does. That’s what makes her special, even before the movie.

>>283635890 (OP)
Read through the original Superior Spider-Man run recently and it reminded me of Madoka Magica, at least just the show. That comic run ends with a more cynical Spider-Man realizing the only one who could save the day was someone who was a true hero and that the “Superior Spider-Man” was Peter Parker all along, the entire run being a love letter to Spider-Man. Madoka ended with the day being saved because the main character genuinely loved everyone and used that love as a power, basically a love letter to the magical girl genre.

>>283635983
You can't have more than one protagonist?

>>283636887
Based

But who will be the MC in Kaiten

>>283635983
True
Both Sayaka and Homura were closer to the role of a protagonist in the original series then Madoka was
Homura was obviously the protagonist of Rebellion, and will probably be the protagonist of Kaiten too

>>283636243
Madoka is the main character but she isn't the protagonist

>>283635983
No. Madoka is the story of a powerless girl being forced to watch as horrible things happen around her. The emotional core of the story is Madoka's mounting hopelessness over not being able to do anything as these events play out around her. Even Homura's big dramatic flashback is there to explain WHY Madoka is powerless, to set up her decision in the climax.

Seriously, did you actually walk away from the fucking show going "oh wow, the story was actually about Homura!" just because of how prominent she was in the last three episodes?

>>283636211
Idk I think Inuyasha is the better main because his bussy hole is tighter, he struggles more with his heritage, and isn't intent on committing sudoku because of how sad his life is.

>>283637586
Homura is the last piece of the puzzle for Madoka. Because of Homura, Madoka realizes that there is someone out there fighting for her but also that someone genuinely values her life. People say Madoka made the wish because she believed she was worthless, but she was only able to make that selfless wish BECAUSE she knew her worth by the end. Out of all the characters Madoka feels the most like a protagonist because she's the one who grows the most. All the magical girls in the show inspire and teach Madoka in some way which is why I think all of them are equally important, their role in the story is all to make Madoka a more confident person. Which is proven by OP's quote.

>>283638431
Can you be more than one person at once?

>>283636024
I truly enjoyed the opportunity to see Akiras adventures on a big cinema screen a few years ago

>>283635983
Madoka is a bland protagonist while Homura is a deuteragonist. Madoka does eventually take action in the end, and I get that she's supposed to be the representation of purity so she can't do anything too extreme, but I still think even despite all that that she did shockingly little and could have been more proactive. She actively tries to STOP things from happening, like when she broke up Sayaka and Homura's fight and threw away Sayaka's soul gem (which aside from the end is literally her biggest contribution to the story which says a lot)

The true main character is Kyouko since she’s my wife

>>283647148
Based

>>283644179
That's very dumb.

Kyouko is a dyke.

Lolcow above me

Kyouko franchise

Official meguca stats according to the PSP game.

>>283635983
>He doesn't know the quick madodown
Uihihi, I guess it's time to not hold back
>first born of a high class family
>final heir of a legendary magical potential
>secret lover of the mysterious big bad meguca who's actually good
>such a chad that she adds every magical girl to her ever-expanding afterlife harem
>Comes back to life solely to cuck her little brother
>Chosen to pilot an ancient super mecha
>Her and Harem members master and can fully control their *psh nothin personal kid" witch powers
>wields light arrows and can omnipresences behind you
>beats one of the most powerful city destroying witches solo that gets hyped up every timeline
>grows up to become a teacher, can romance her underage students
>just saying "uihihi" makes everybody drop their pants for her
>uses the power of intelligence to defeat the true antagonist, interdimensional aliens that appeared before humanity was born
>is the main character of the entire franchise, doesn't have to lift a finger for most of the show
>breaks up budding romances between other characters that were developing over the course of millennia by adding magical girls to her afterlife
>even the previous badasses hype up how good she is at magic
>kills herself in a noble self sacrifice with her yuribait girlfriend to break curses but not really because the even bigger bigger villains rewrite the timeline to get the true ending
>Becomes one of the strongest characters in the universe
>has the option to cuck Homura away from マドカ, Kyouko away from Sayaka, Sayaka away from kyousuke, etc.
>a version of herself from an alternate timeline is trying to replace her because she's too chad
>tops the 2013 saimoe poll the year homura's movie came out
>made it so that the majority of the franchise's side media are about her
>Is the fanbases favorite character, they go on to call the subsequent edgy magical girl anime and sequels embarrassing

Feels good knowing all megucas are canonically straight

>>283649953
Kino

>>283648681
Yes

>>283640695
Meduka nigga get me out of this wack ass crystal prison.
>>283636211
Jerkass with a heart of gold-kun and chan

>>283649981
This is true but you should stop baiting retards.

>>283647148
Wife of Mami

>>283650036
Baiting retards is funny though. I want him to reply to himself more for his master

>>283635890 (OP)
Extremely reddit post

>>283636264
he's literally called zelda

>>283635890 (OP)
Homura the lesbian simp should've been the protagonist.

Yuricuck melty. Total Tabb victory.

>>283650817
But she is the protagonist

>>283650875
Homura is the antagonist who believes she's helping Madoka but actually harms her at every step of the way.

>>283652874
This but its the other way around

>>283645534
>She actively tries to STOP things from happening, like when she broke up Sayaka and Homura's fight and threw away Sayaka's soul gem
That's the thing people miss about Madoka as a character. She spends the whole fucking show TRYING to help, but Homura orchestrated things to ensure she'll never actually accomplish anything. She's constantly trying to reach out to the other meguca emotionally and jumping in to help when she thinks its feasible (like the suicide zombies), but in the end she just ends up watching things go to shit around her.

Madoka isn't a weak, passive creature. We see that in other timelines. Homura basically just ripped the agency out of her hands. But she still tries.

>>283654426
Exactly. Just compare the happy, vibrant Madoka that Homura meets and falls in love with in the first timeline to the one we see for most of the series, after Homura keeps robbing her of her agency. Madoka's ultimate sacrifice happens more in spite of Homura than because of her. And then of course Rebellion happens and Homura undoes even that. The movie simply makes plain the fact that Homura was Madoka's antagonist all along.

Tbh I'm not surprised Shaft is taking forever to make a final movie. I loved Rebellion but I have no idea how to make a satisfying conclusion.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2011-08-09/madoka-magica-gets-psp-game-with-gen-urobuchi
>the anime's head writer Gen Urobuchi (Fate/Zero) is collaborating on the project's planning and supervising the scenario
I wonder what this implies for how reliable the PSP game is, if only for stuff like the timeline of when events happen

>>283655262
>I loved Rebellion but I have no idea how to make a satisfying conclusion.
The best ending would be something that lets Madoka keep her agency without sacrifice or any form of self destruction, and allows Homura to grow past her self-destructive obsession with Madoka. Honestly I think an ending where both Madoka and Homura no longer have any connection to the LoC is the only one where that could happen. Having Madoka join with the LoC again would just make Homura freak the fuck out again sooner or later while having both be the LoC wouldn't resolve either characters arc, or make either of them happy.
I really wish they will both be happy by the end of Kaiten

>>283636674
It's not going to get delayed again

bump

I know that Homura is obsessed with Madoka and she’s chill with Kyouko. But I’m pretty sure she hates Mami and Sayaka. That adds up, but at the same time I don’t know which one she hates more,

>>283656756
I hope you’re right but I doubt it.

>>283658169
Probably Sayaka considering she goes out of her way to cuck her every time there’s an occasion to do so

>>283658235
Unless she just enjoys teasing her, but likes absolutely nothing about Mami.

>>283658169
I doubt she hates either of them but the one she dislikes the most is clearly Sayaka. Mami was there for her in the first, and most of the second, timelines before she freaked the fuck out. Meanwhile it took until Rebellion for Sayaka to not give her shit for existing, and by the end that gets undone with Homura larping as the devil

Tabb is a lolcow

>>283658510
You can use the other thread or start your own if you want to shitpost about thread drama. This isn't even a Madoka thread technically

>>283658572
Tabb, the lolcow, started it

>>283658768
I don't care. If you want to argue about him you can go to his xitter or some shit. Stop being an obsessed retard

>>283635890 (OP)
That's a rarity and my personal favorite is Andy from UU.
"Don't get it twisted. That's only the amount of growth I can accomplish on my own, which is why I depend on a certain someone. My growing days are over, and so are hers. We've done all we can do. (...)If it ain't sinkin' in yet, then have a taste for yourself... a taste of human potential, that is."

Homura will kiss Sayaka

>>283658768
So you replied and got baited?

>>283659154
True

>>283659154
Trvke.

>>283635890 (OP)
>not a chosen one, not talented, no asspull power-ups
>collected most of the zodiac keys
>caster of Urano Metria
>caster of Gottfried
>caster of Fairy Sphere
>summoner of the Celestial Spirit King
>rewrites Zeref's book of E.N.D.
>the one who trapped Acnologia with Fairy Sphere
>most diverse skill pool compared to any shounen MC
>fun personality
>sexy body
>great character development

>>283635890 (OP)
not her

megucas should suffer

>>283635983
>well-written =/= good

>>283659154
Homura will ki** Sayaka