Thread 33532100

I'm a soldier stationed overseas. I started a fling with a local woman, and now she's pregnant. The problem is, I already have a wife and a son back home. I feel like I've ruined my life, and I know I have no one to blame but myself. The child she's carrying is innocent in all of this, and I want to do right by him or her. But at the same time, I have a family waiting for me back home. I don't know what to do. I can get dishonorable discharge for this too. Im depressed and I dont know where to seek help. I cant to this with no one.

>>33532100 (OP)
I know this sounds cold, but you need to tell that girl to get an abortion and break off contact with her.

>>33532100 (OP)
boo hoo nigga, hopefully you have secret extra family money.

>>33532236
This is a demon. Do not listen to it

Firstly, don't do it again. Secondly, You're in for a world full of shit. Take the punishment and repercussions like a man. As for your punishment for adultery, thats command discretion. If you're a shitbag, and your leadership hates your guts, you're getting the fucking boot. If they like you, you'll get a field grade Article-15 and busted down to E-1 without a chapter packet. Either way, you're losing rank and you'll be on extra duty for the foreseeable future.

-Former Weapon Squad Leader.

>>33532243
>>33532100 (OP)
No, you need to be brutally realistic and honest about your situation, OP; how are you going to explain to your wife and family that had an affair with another woman and got her pregnant without utterly destroying your life in America? I know you think you're doing the right thing by keeping the child, but how are you going to raise another child overseas? Even less, how are you going to expect the family you already have to simply be ok with the fact that you had an illegitimate child out of wedlock with someone on the other side of the Earth? You really only have to options: 1. Break off contact with the girl you had an affair with, and leave her to raise your child on her lonesome, or 2. Pay for an abortion, break off contact with her, and return to your family in America. Providing for both families is not sustainable, and you know it, nor is it right to provide for the latter when you already have a family that you love Rather than bring an innocent child into the world that will only be born to suffer and lose, do the merciful thing and remove the possibility of it suffering altogether. Also, know this: the truth will get out somehow, one way, or another.

One more thing, you won't get a dishonorable discharge. You'll get a General Discharge-Other than Honorable. Not as bad as a Dishonorable, but employers will treat it as such, and you aren't eligible for GI Bill or VA benefits. Also, do not take the Non-Judicial Punishment to Court Martial. Admit your guilt to your CO and tell them how badly you fucked up, you'll change your ways, and you still want to serve your country. Taking it to Court Martial wikl waste everyone's time and the judge will give you a bad conduct discharge cuz he will find you guilty as fuck.

>>33532317
Your final sentence makes everything before it moot. The truth WILL get out, so killing the child ultimately has no gain. He will have to face the consequences of his selfish actions regardless. Don't rack up another sin in the process of trying to hide it in an exercise in futility.

>>33532433
I'm not religious, sin has no meaning to me. We both know bringing a child into the world under those circumstances is the most unethical thing under consideration here, and the possibility of that child leading a happy or fulfilled life is scant, if nonexistent. Ultimately, it's up to OP.

>>33532236
>>33532317
Murder is never the right answer
Even when eventually the Jews and billionaires and politicians of this era answer for their crimes, it will be righteous justice. An unborn child is guilty of literally nothing but Original Sin, and if he or she were born and baptized a minute after they would be a completely spotless victim.

>>33532460
>I'm not religious, sin has no meaning to me.
I see, you have brain damage
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/archaeology/news/brain-magnets-decrease-faith-in-god-religion-immigrants-a6695291.html

>>33532473
Religiosity is actually associated with *lower* intelligence, ironically.

>>33532468
Depending on whether the woman OP had an affair with is in the 1st trimester, there's nothing to be murdered.

>>33532485
No it isn’t. Atheism isn’t a sign of intelligence, its a sign of being depressed and neurotic.

>>33532500
Atheism *is* positively correlated with intelligence, though.

>>33532509
No it’s not.

>>33532512
Ok, faggot.
>https://hilo.hawaii.edu/campuscenter/hohonu/volumes/documents/TheRelationshipofReligiosityAtheismBeliefandIntelligenceKristyLungo.pdf
>https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8836311/
>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0160289608000238
>https://www.psypost.org/meta-analysis-of-83-studies-produces-very-strong-evidence-for-a-negative-relationship-between-intelligence-and-religiosity/

>>33532236
That's not cold, that's cowardice. I won’t do that.
>>33532240
I don't. But I guess its my fault and no one else. My wife doesn't deserve this.
>>33532281
I've seen enough guys try to weasel their way out and it always ends up worse for them. I just don't want my kids to pay for my mistakes.
>>33532317
I know there's no clean way out. If I go Article 15, I'll eat the rank drop and the smoke sessions that come with it. But I dont want to get discharged, I need the money.

>>33532570
How can you say it's cowardly to get an abortion, when it objectively takes more courage to choose the wife and child you already have and decide to act for them?

>>33532551
I’m not reading all of those, no thank you. You didn’t read them either so who cares.

>>33532100 (OP)
Are you a soldier or what?
It's fine to have two wives.
Gengis Kahn, Atila, owned hundreds of it.
Also when your original wife divorce-rape you, you have that backup plan.

>>33532632
It’s not courageous to kill a baby in the womb you demonically oppressed buffoon. That’s how infantile the secular mindset is; thinking that battling an unborn baby is an act of courage. No wonder atheists have a hard time pairbonding.

>>33532639
You're right, I didn't read all of them, but the point gets across accurately enough when the tagline for one of the studies reads, >meta-analysis-of-83-studies-produces-very-strong-evidence-for-a-negative-relationship-between-intelligence-and-religiosity/. I think you *do* care, otherwise you wouldn't have replied and done something else, like, I dunno, pray to God, or some other dumb shit.

>>33532100 (OP)
What a classic
Do you also have some kind of gaudy sports car
Please say its a mustang, one of the tasteless years like anytime in the last 25

>>33532673
>the tagline reads a sensationalist clickbait title, so it must be true

This is why we know you’re not that smart.

>>33532662
It's not courageous to fuck another woman you're not married to and impregnate her out of wedlock, then bemoan to an anonymous audience about how you can't afford to get discharged, yet here you are, OP.

>>33532686
I know you're retarded because you wouldn't understand the findings even if you *did* read it; you didn't read it because you probably can't read, to begin with.

>>33532704
I’m not OP. Also no one said fucking another woman is courageous. You were the one who brought courage into it, and you bring it up to justify killing a baby. And I don’t think you get to be the one to talk about courage. Your idea of an enemy is a tiny unborn baby in a womb. OP actually fights the enemy on the battlefield as a soldier. You stay at home.

>>33532243
op is also a demon lol. you fool

>>33532720
No thats you, its the reason why you didnt read them either. You just like to pretend you read them for posturing and to fool people that you’re smart. You’re not smart. You’re not stupid either, but you aren’t smart.

>>33532728
When did I ever imply that an unborn child is an enemy? Where the fuck did you come up with that?

>you can't into reading comprehension

>>33532758
By wanting to kill it. Killing is reserved only for enemies. And you don’t need to outright say it, you want to kill the unborn, it follows that it is because you have the capacity to see unborn infants as enemies.

>>33532748
>n-n-no, nuh-uh, it's you! ur the dummy

I'll take your concession; cry harder, faggot, etc.

this if your fault, if i were you i would tell your wife its her fault and kill yourself while blaming it on her

>>33532785
That would make sense if I said OP should get an abortion regardless of what trimester or stage of development the fetus is in, but I didn't, and it's illegal in most, if not all places, to abort an embryo that's beyond a specific stage of development (I'm not sure which one, however, I'll grant you that).

>>33532815
I know you’re not sure which one, because you’ve never been a father. That’s not me mocking you or belittling your manhood, that’s just a fact. Ignorance is okay so long as it isnt wilful ignorance.

First trimester is still very much life. Week 5 the infant has its first heartbeat. And the thing about that is, by the time a woman notices she’s pregnant, she’s already on week 4 or 5. As most pregnancy testers can only know from week 2 onwards.

Meaning no man can get to point to that embryo/zygote stage as an excuse to demand an abortion. By the time the man is bitching at the woman to abort, chances are the baby has a developing brain and already has a heartbeat. All of those happen within first trimester. Some fetuses even develop ears by the end of first trimester and can literally hear the father talk about killing it. Not that it would understand language anyway, but still fucked up.

>>33532632
Do you know the difference between bravery and recklessness? A brave man isn't brave because he isn't afraid, he's brave because he acts despite the fear. In contrast someone who rush unprepared straight into the battlefield without fear is not brave, just an idiot.

In the same way, deflecting responsibility isn't cold pragmatism, it's disguised cowardice, attempting to save face.

>>33532100 (OP)
> I can get dishonorable discharge for this too.
That is what should happen. As you surely know adultery is a violation of the uniform code of military justice. Your actions were dishonorable and contrary to good order and discipline. People like you have no place in my armed forces.

>>33532433
>killing the child ultimately has no gain.
other than the fact that its unwanted. I firmly believe that unwanted children should not be brought into the world.

>>33532473
did you even bother to actually read the article past its meme headline

>>33532662
demons are not real, that's just primitive superstition

>>33532100 (OP)
Oh I’ll lend you my advice for you OP.

You got two options. Risk a hard truth, or maintain a burdensome lie. Risk the truth = tell wife and son, plan a weird and messy arrangement from there. You allow visits from the other son/daughter, you father both. But you somehow keep marriage intact. You pay your dues to the other lady, giving her alimony for support.

Or maintain a burdensome lie. Dont tell wife and kid. Just keep sending money abroad each month and hope you are never found out. Visiting the kid every other month or every 6 months, pretending to wife its for work vacation.

Not the best idea for the new kid. Means new kid only speaks wkth father once or twice a year. Not fair on that new kid.

At least with telling the wife, you then open up a possibility where you can father both kids consistently. Whether that’s gonna have your wife in the picture or not, who knows. But thats the risk.

>>33533074
For your sake you better hope they are real. Because when humanity loses its demons to hate, they will search for new ones. And they will see other humans doing demonic shit. Like killing babies. Then you’ll have nowhere to hide to on the day of judgement.

>>33533112
more primitive superstitions. Do you not realize that you're part of a cult? This whole notion of a day of judgment, and promising a glorious afterlife only to those who are members of the church, while everyone else is doomed is literally cult tactics 101. Create an in-group and out-group that allows the in-group to feel smugly superior to all others.

>>33533128
You don't understand what I am telling you. I am neither supporting or denying religion in that statement. I am cautioning you about the collective psyche of humanity. I am saying in the absence of demons or judgement day, if the religion turns out to be untrue. What will humans do when they realise this?

They will manufacture it. They will make it real. And they will start by declaring themselves as God. And they will identify demons as humans, specific humans, ones who have no problem killing kids.

When that day happens you will beg for God to save you.

>>33533154
well that's nonsense. You don't need religion to have morality.

>>33533213
You demonstrate the contrary every time you advocate for killing human life in the womb. Anyway it's your life, I won't judge you. In just telling you that attacking the institution that reminds the masses to be merciful towards sinners probably isn't in your best interest. You loose them from that chain then don't be surprised when the Pitbull mauls you to death. If you really are as intelligent as you fancy yourself to be, you'd understand that.

>>33532863
My pregnant wife was considering abortion as a last resort only in case of the worst scenarios but with every milestone we’ve reached it was delightful to watch how protective she’s becoming towards the baby. Now she’s shitting herself because of the 20 week scan coming but the baby seems to be fine so we’re very hopeful.

Anyway yeah, it’s easy to talk about abortion when you’re not a parent.

>>33532100 (OP)
>whut do?
Shoot your officer and as many fellow soldiers as possible, when asked why, state that it was in response to the expectation that you'd be dishonourably discharged over something that has no relation to your military service.

>>33532100 (OP)
You're not the first army bro to get a overseas woman pregnant

>fling
>wife and son at home
You made your bed. An abortion is bad but I'm assuming it's still early enough to end it. Otherwise you're looking at a permanently ruined life because of one mistake if you're going to be honest and noble about it.

>>33532100 (OP)
Damn man, you fell for lust. Obviously you don't care much about your family so I'd give the local girl a chance depending where you are.

>>33532100 (OP)
What is it you want to do OP? Do you want to confess, or would you rather keep it a secret? Do you want to abort and cut ties, or do you feel obligated to have this baby with this other woman? Clarifying things would help get you the right advice given the direction you want to go.

>>33532460
>We both know bringing a child into the world under those circumstances is the most unethical thing under consideration here

What a load of utter garbage.
I was literally brought in under those exact circumstances, and my life is completely fine. Kys demon

well, maybe you can somehow take out a "loan" or get some monies unbeknownst to your "real" family and pay the fling a lump sum as an excuse that you skidaddle and never come back or maybe once every 5 to 10 years or someshit.
success chances are higher, if the overseas country does not have the dollar but some 3rd world cheap valuta.

lets say you pay her 5k$ and in their country thats like 50.000 dindus and 1k dindus is equal to a years pay, so you pay for like 5 years. if shes smart, she can pull it off and you get to maybe even see your meatmixtura in 5 years.
maybe shes a demonic bytch and kills your baby the moment your foot leaves the country
who knows

anyway, what you did is unexcusable and you deserve biblical accurate punishment.

>>33532100 (OP)
Rookie mistake telling the deployment wife your real name anon, next time you are John Smith from Texas or California with no ties to social media.

>>33532662
I get if you don't want to give the government that ability, like euthanasia or capital punishment. I even get if the basis of your belief is "well it's scary to me" or "it makes me uncomfortable," but using religion, especially Christianity, is such a cop out. God killed thousands of children in the bible but that's just okay since he's God lol.