Thread 33640483

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>>33640483 (OP)
First for slippery femanon that is on my mind now.

Everything reminds me of her

>>33640494
grippery>slippery

I’ve taken over anon’s soul…

Suboptimal /atoga/

>>33640498
I am the one who is destined to grip her so very, very tightly.

>>33640496
like what?
>>33640502
who's?
>>33640505
moaning and bitchin will not make it better, get to work

Atoga took my soul, I don’t believe I couldn’t see this

i love my bf!!!!

>>33640503
>>>/global/rules/6

>>33640507
you got that tight bussy

How crazy it is to go for a long distance moid?

>>33640505
suboptimal complainer

>>33640514
Rules that aren't enforced are meaningless.

>>33640517
Not very, but it’s also like, you’re trading tangible things (touching them) for that one person. It better be a good trade.

>>33640514
>The quality of posts is extremely important to this community
lol

>>33640511
what color was it?
>>33640517
better go for long pp moid

>>33640517
About three point five.

do i do it anons? imagine an atoga free of low effort blogposting and europa

>>33640524
>color
You tell me

So anons, a friend of mine just texted me saying she had an anxiety crisis, asked me if i wanted to come over saying she was feeling lonely. I told her I can't because I'm taking care of my father's birthday. What do I do now?

>>33640517
One of you two should have money and opportunity to visit the other.
You need clear goals and a plan when you want to move in together.
Can work, but needs dedication.

Scenario, you have no friends, no family near you and youve just broken up with your gf/bf, you live in a city and you work full time and live alone. What do?

What makes you passionate?

>>33640528
Do it.

>>33640528
no, you sound like the exactly wrong no fun allowed miserable cunt that will ruin atoga forever

>>33640528
Oh. Oh no. No no no. What if you... get rejected?

>>33640528
if you auto ban qt on sight that is all I care for

Women, why is it that I'm only feeling somewhat decent when I'm either on a boat or lost in a fucking forest

>>33640534
Hockey, music, MMA. Any competition where the humanity is stripped back and it becomes a battle of wills. Music because of all the emotions it evokes

>>33640533
time to slut it out

>>33640542
yeah but im a man though

>>33640541
Hockey and MMA are a battle of wills?

>>33640540
>asking this only the women
You are stupid and predictable.

>>33640528
You should be able to solo the slow board like /adv/

>>33640530
sunbright

>>33640538
i have zero fear of rejection

i have some fear of my email / identity being leaked, though

>>33640546
Did she stutter?

>>33640534
I hate wasted potential

Why are autistic people generally so self centered?

>>33640553
Use a throwaway email.

>>33640557
autism is just a "I'm actually a nice person" way of saying narcissism

>>33640547
Yeah, of course. It’s the truest illumination of a man’s soul, what he does in the crunch time when his entire dream is on the line. Does he shy away from the contact and lose the puck? Does he become someone else, a savage beast that will destroy anyone who threatens his team? I love it. It’s intense. Hockey especially evokes emotions in me that nothing else does. I’ve wept, cried, screamed, laughed, gotten angry as fuck.

>>33640553
You don't go all out right away, you start to build a rapport.

>>33640536
you sound like a blogposter. why do you cry about it in blog form in gioyc? oh wait, then you wouldn't have an audience or get the negative attention you live off of

>>33640555
let me rephrase this, I'm an incredibly mid autistic man, I can get sex but it takes a tonne of time and effort

>>33640549
I mean I'm supposed to ask the opposite gender

>>33640552
The light that holds all of your colour :3

>>33640566
SPREAD
LEGS

>>33640559
looks like i have to make a throwaway discord too, which might be just a little too much effort for me

>>33640557
Because they're autistic.

But frankly, neurotypicals are at least as self centred as autists.

>>33640553
>thinks he should be 4chan jannie
>doesn't even understand the concept of a throwaway
pls just kys

>>33640513
He cheats with me (I'm a man)

>>33640572
Nta
You dont need to move to discord right away

>>33640564
I don't blog post but blog posting and shitting on blog posters is an integral part of atoga culture.
>want an audience
>enjoy the negative attention
Yes, and? What's the issue with that?

>>33640575
i'm literally just lazy, chill and eat a candybar

I'm going to my bf now to collect sex. I will be back soon

I'm not going to do the thing I was going to do today today. Just the thought of it makes me exhausted.

>>33640578
the issue is it degrades the thread quality and belongs in /gioyc/ or /b/ or /r9k/

>>33640584
Nigga this is r9k lite

Why do some men choose to be incels even though they are in a committed, sexually healthy relationship with a woman? What drives their incel attitudes and behaviours?

>>33640584
>degrades thread quality
this is 4chan, give it a rest
if you want people trying to uphold a fake semblance of civility, maybe try reddit or facebook

>>33640587
see now you're just motivating me to make the throwaway discord to piss you off

are there any porn games that aren't just like sex simulation? i want to basically flirt with someone with no stakes. there's not many sexy games for women to begin with so i doubt it. i don't like ai chat bots, they're very boring.

>>33640578
>bla is an integral part of *something on 4chan* culture
nta
This will always be an incredibly weak argument.
Imagine if somebody keeps shitting up a place and you defend it by saying "it just is that way".

>>33640588
>choosing to be
>incel

>>33640593
yes, placeupshitters need a corner of the world too

>>33640590
I should’ve said NTA, cuz I don’t understand your post

>>33640594
it was not involuntary retard, he had a girlfriend. he still clung to the ideaology. nta.

>>33640589
i just want to ask questions and answer questions in the ask/answer questions thread instead of reading schizophrenic diaries and crashouts.

is that so much to ask

>>33640587
Which is exactly the issue it has come to this.

>>33640595
Go make your own.
Or stay on r9k.

>>33640594
If you choose to hate women or to be a male supremacist, then yes, that is a choice.

>>33640573
Yeh, but at least some of us can pretend not to be occasionally. Just get an autistic talking about the military or Dragon Ball or Transformers or something like that.

>>33640598
yes
>>33640599
>go make your own
you make your own good boy christian discord server where you jerk each other off for how well you follow the rules on a daily basis

>>33640592
>i don't like ai chat bots, they're very boring
I can't imagine any game being less so.
Have you tried any of the million japanese visual novel games?

>>33640597
Clinging to incel ideology is what makes someone an incel.

>>33640598
Assholes don't like it when people try to make a place better.
They hate you for putting any effort into not being a lazy shit.
They want everybody else to be a lazy asshole too.

>>33640588
I don't know, all I can say is that women do it too and more so

>>33640605
ok this guy is definitely a blogposter who feels threatened that he might have to post his diary somewhere that it's actually on-topic

>>33640594
>incel
>involuntary celibate
>celibate = voluntary sexual abstinence/voluntarily unmarried
>incel = involuntary celibate
>involuntary yet voluntary
It was always a retarded term from some dyke, tbf

>>33640609
...which is not involuntary.

>>33640610
there is enough places already where you can have a polite and sanitized conversation if thats your thing, don't come to the few places where people still like to have some fun

>>33640613
>It was always a retarded term
NTA
Doesn't matter, everybody knows it's become representative of an ideology.
Language changes, new terms get invented.

>>33640612
>you can only care if it personally affects you
stop projecting

>>33640613
That was the original term, but these days it refers to a constellation of fringe ideologies that are about male supremacism, male separatism, or extremist misogyny.

A person isn't an incel just because they've had sex never or rarely. An incel is more like someone who believes that the government should hire rapists to sexually assault women as punishment for turning down men who ask them out.

>>33640616
Funny how I can say the same thing about incels and their shitty attitude on atoga.

>>33640603
>Just get an autistic talking about the military or Dragon Ball or Transformers or something like that.
Yes, that is some of the characteristic behaviours of autism. And?
Your question amounts to
>Why do people with autism behave autistically

>>33640517
Wnna exchange mails?

Atoga is ass without blogposting and horny posting, where did these boring cunts come from

>>33640616
i'm not looking for "polite and sanitized" i just don't want to read your diary where you sperg out and add nothing meaningful or funny or interesting to the thread lol

>>33640613
>>celibate = voluntary sexual abstinence/voluntarily unmarried
I don't think voluntary was ever strictly part of that definition.

>>33640617
>>33640620
Those are called chuds, nowadays

>>33640626
Rule Follower

>>33640626
>Said no one, ever

also who said anything about curbing hornyposters? i'm just sick of europa.jpg style blogposts

>>33640626
>where did these boring cunts come from
Grad School.

>>33640633
How long have you been here? People talk about non gender related topics every thread, and those are usually the best discussions

>>33640636
i don't really care about conversations im talking about the anons who flood the thread will walls of text that no one reads or responds to, don't ask questions, and just sperg out over nothing all day

>>33640617
>Language changes, new terms get invented.
Too fast, and in non-sensical ways. I hate it.

>>33640528
Fuck yeah, make /atoga/ great again!

>>33640483 (OP)
good morning to the anon formerly known as my thread crush

>>33640588
I mean there's also women in committed relationships that would still say all men are pigs, men only care about sex etc.

It is an attitude that has to do with fear. You are afraid this is true so you can't stop reading about it. You read about it all the time so you see it everywhere around you. Once you realize this narrative exists, you don't really want it to be true but you most definitely don't want it to be true and for you to be the sorry sod who doesn't realize it.

>>33640639
Why do you care so much. If they aren't getting responses then everyone is ignoring them. Why can't you?

>>33640646
Is that the anon who keeps talking about mommy incest and gay prison rape?

Well of course I wouldve liked to have met my first boyfriend on the first try I got on a dating app and of course I wouldve wanted him to respect me and stay with m forever but we aren’t all so lucky are we bitch. Who do these people think they’re talking to don’t you understand that I’m ugly and that men hate me and want to torture me and ruin my life that’s just how it is and how it’s going to be. I’m going to die like this

>>33640613
lmao this post reminds me of all the jacobin leftist talking heads there all mystified at why conservatives were talking about critical race theory while they tried to gaslight everyone that this was just a hoax and they're fixating on some old obscure academic theory...despite the fact its ideas and languages were being actively (iirc) put in place by those in charge. i forget what time period this was but it was only a couple years ago.

anyway, quit being intellectually dishonest. words are merely symbols and nothing more.

>>33640653
shut the fuck up

>>33640576
I knew he was a homo

I need a girlfriend

>>33640650
no, i'm a certified man who is not gay and i'm pretty sure the anon formerly known as my thread crush isn't a guy, although they may certainly be idk

I need a husband

I need >her

>>33640653
if you die like that, it is 100% your choice to do so btw

>>33640646
>formerly
Did she fall for another moid?

>>33640669
kek

>>33640668
Yeah, for me

>>33640669
I can hear the tradcuck's blood vessel bursting without even knowing what he replied to.

>>33640668
nah, i just decided to move on

Femanons, how many hours a day would you want to be used for slap training?

One-off blogposts are fundamentally no different from blogpost replies to a post asking "state gender; what did you do today".

>>33640433
Then imagine how bad I must have been at it.

>>33640669
can this be the next atoga image

2bh I actually feel quite relieved gf is now ex gf, she really was quite the headache, not sure if bpd but definitely something, think ive used up all my sad energy over stress during the relationship. Have you ever exited a relationship and felt only peace? or does this pass and I'll be sad?

>>33640678
Clearly you didn't.

>>33640681
>blogposting about how he should continue to be able to post low-effort blogposts

>>33640685
>2bh I actually feel quite relieved gf is now ex gf, she really was quite the headache, not sure if bpd but definitely something, think ive used up all my sad energy over stress during the relationship. Have you ever exited a relationship and felt only peace? or does this pass and I'll be sad?
Maybe you had mental and emotional problems too? Go to your nearest ocean and walk around and take it in for more than 5 minutes, it'll help you. Afterwards go near your closest forest and walk around the greenest trees and for more than 5 minutes, youll feel better.

>>33640688
I am glad somebody else noticed the irony.

hope all flat girls are having a great day <3

I should fight the Four Kings on NG+
Suck my dick I am going to blogpost

>>33640688
Yes. Cry about it.

>>33640692
I found ng+ even easier than regular new game

>>33640685
>or does this pass and I'll be sad?
i am afraid to report that this is true. i think how true it is will depend on whether you or her ended things, but it'll happen regardless. what you're feeling right now is the release of having to deal with unfun stuff, but there was a reason you tolerated shit enough to build up to this point, something that made it worthwhile up to that point, and that's what you're going to miss. for me, this was right after HS (over a decade ago) and was a long distance thing, when i broke things off we stopped doing nightly video calls, and after a few weeks those became some of the loneliest nights of my life up to that point.

you may not reach that point but you may, best to be ready for it.

>>33640692
>>33640694
these are the posts that made me apply btw

Women, what does ovulation feel like compared to your norm?

>>33640692
Now do it SL1, the actual challenge, blogshitter.

>>33640695
I’m still at level 70, it’s pretty hard. I’ve been hunting down the guilty as penance for my former life (NG) as the dark lord. Once I’ve maxed the covenant I’m gonna move through NG+

>>33640688
I love blogposts thoughbeit

>>33640687
post proof, tits, or gtfo

>>33640699
What a boring bitch

>>33640702
I want to. I know I could. It would be hard as shit though, SL1 in particular limits your weapons a lot

>>33640701
literally nothing besides being a little moodier maybe

>>33640706
consider making your blogposts more interesting, perhaps you shall be spared

>>33640689
I dont believe I put things on her, she was openly admitting she knows shes ''insane'' but ''cant help it'' so it was just very tiring during the entire time as it would be constant eggshells, tried being supportive and was there for her but it didn't really work. There is a place I know where its the beach and some nice woodlands behind it, not too far away, I may go on saturday to touch grass.

>>33640701
I'm aroused sooner after already orgasming, and my standard for men goes down one standard deviation. The amount of patience I have for men when I'm ovulating is lowkey insane, because I don't have any for the other two weeks of the month.

>>33640707
What helped me was pyromancy, but 4nigz was by far the hardest part of SL1, because it is a pure dps race.

>>33640701
I've never noticed any particular difference.

>>33640701
last girl i was with got crazy horny whenever she ovulated. i think she may have had other hormone issues so idk how much those were a factor but she was straight feral when ovulating, very hot if i'm being to be t b h

Men,
How often should I tell you things like I miss you, love you... Yk, verbally express my love to you?
Pls don't give me theoretical answers where say "everyday", "always", "as often as you can"... like you'd never grow tired of it or feel burdened by it

Femcels, why don't you look for a bf who could stroke your hair?

>>33640713
My mind immediately went to pyromancy due to the lack of stat requirements. You run Power Within?

>>33640703
I remember when I did ng+ everything was dying in just a few hits, different build I guess, anyway hope you're having fun!

>>33640710
If you don't find the posts here interesting then maybe you should leave

>>33640711
How long ago did you break up? It's possible she's exaggerating and is just being a cunt anon. Why not go today?

I need to shower, do I bother shaving my face? I shaved it yesterday, there is *slight* stubble

>>33640721
i do, just not yours

>>33640718
I don't remember exactly anymore, it was over a decade ago. lol

>>33640711
careful in the future anon, you may have enabled her dysfunctions, or played into them in ways you did not realize. it is not fun to learn you were actively harming someone you love a lot and are trying to help, it is in fact quite awful

>>33640725
yes. shaving is good for your skin

>>33640722
well I gotta wage in the morning and its the evening now, id like to be able to take as long as I want strolling around. It was yesterday but ive been wanting things to end for a while now.

>>33640717
I don't like being touched

>>33640705
>post proof
This post >>33640646

>>33640719
I am. Staying at level 70 makes it hard as fuck. I use the Washing Pole +15 with darkmoon and sunlight blades, not the best DPS for PVE, but very good for larping. Cheers bro

>>33640731
UGH

Don't you want to fuck every woman you see just once?

>>33640737
good boy

>>33640728
Marone…

So anons, or femanons, a friend of mine asked me to go over to her home and I agreed, I think she needs some comfort after she said she collapsed after a panic attack. how do i avoid myself from fumbling?

>>33640732
Don't think that way anon. You'll be okay

>>33640741
Did you just call me a sweet chestnut?

>>33640742
>female friend has panic attack
>how can I put my disgusting moid penis in her
...

>>33640716
I'd say as often as you mean it and feel like saying it.
>like you'd never grow tired of it or feel burdened by it
Adjust as needed, depending on what your baseline turns out to be.

>>33640739
No, only the attractive ones.

>>33640725
No, shaving is bad for your skin.

>>33640746
;3

>>33640734
Well, that disqualifies you as a potential girlfriend.

>>33640716
if i am REALLY into you, like really really into you, i can talk to you endlessly and not be bothered at all, i wouldn't ever feel upset hearing from you.

if you constantly felt the need to express love to me though, that's a pretty clear red flag things aren't going very well in some dimension. either you are wanting validation or think i need validation, but if we're at the point in a relationship where we're saying that to each other, my mindset is
>this seems off, i wonder if everything is okay/how to fix it
when seeing a red flag rather than
>ew she's being clingy

moment-to-moment, i might feel annoyed if you always expect a response, and i'd feel guilty about not responding to something like "i love you". but i reckon that you're not talking about messaging me when i'm explicitly busy.

tl;dr i'd say occasionally is fine, but if it's to the point you're texting that to me while i try to work and like freaking out if i don't respond then that's where i'm gonna start getting annoyed. sorry for the long post.

>>33640735
damn it anon, i thought the third reply could have been the anon formerly known as my thread crush, but it was just you. you bastard.

...unless?

>>33640756
I will have you know you made this old man giggle...

>>33640762
Cheers kek, glad to help

>>33640716
"I miss you" has a max of once per day, I'd say. It's really nice to hear, but if you say it too much it makes me worried you're just feeling limerance or something and not real love/crush.
"I love you" doesn't have an upper limit so long as you're reasonable about it. Say it to me in the morning when I wake up, say it to me again as I head off to work, message it to me at work, say it to me when I come back, say it to me after dinner, say it to me as we go to sleep. It's important to reaffirm romantic bonds and make people feel loved. It's also important to let yourself feel like you're loving someone. No, this wouldn't become burdensome.

i want to conquer the world to present to my partner (queen the world now), but i want the sort of partner that wants to conquer the world to present to her partner (king of the world now). i want us to turn our cosmic purpose into trying to cartoonishly outdo each other in expressions of love.

that's the kind of relationship i want, and women don't have the capacity to provide it to me.

>>33640716
I think you don't need to be desperate in that regard if you see each other every day anyway e.g., but sending things like a pic of something you might have prepared for him is very cute.

>>33640716
as often as you want

>>33640771
What do you mean by that anon

>>33640771
>women don't have the capacity to provide it to me
do you?

>>33640779
women as a class of people do not seem capable of enough love or playfulness to match me

>>33640771
I could give that to you (we are both boys though...)

>>33640782
I have this with femanon

>>33640786
good for you

>>33640787
Thanks

>>33640771
>and women don't have the capacity to provide it to me.
How appropriate. You don't have the capacity to provide it for them either.

>>33640782
maybe, i've never been able to find a woman to match the sentiment. i certainly have the capacity and desire to try though, especially if i like the girl i'm dating a lot. i get a bit addicted to my girl's approval, if i'm being totally honest

>>33640782
Kinda cute, love and hate

>>33640795
nothing wrong with that
it's just hard to keep that level of enthusiasm up for longer than a few weeks

Sexual fantasies are so unaligned with reality sometimes

>>33640798
oh it definitely stays longer than that for me, i get too attached to people unfortunately and usually a gf will reset my entire purpose in life. it's probably written all over the OP, now that i reflect on it there's certainly something narcissistic about wanting someone to pay that much attention to me (or at least not see that immediately as a red flag). OTOH it's a genuine desire i have that's not really born from a desire for approval, although it pairs well with it, i really do just want to make my person happy idk

>>33640803
give example or be silent forever

>>33640803
my sexual fantasy is having cuddle sex, is that unrealistic?

I'm hungry

>>33640803
I’m attractive but have a humiliation kink

>>33640805
what you want is two narcs lovebombing each other, it's fun and intense but not very stable or sustainable

>>33640783
then date men. ??? who's stopping you

>>33640771
I think you underestimate that irl someone being very committed to you and obviously going to great lengths (maybe not in terms of changing the world but in terms of getting over themselves, changing perspective, showing dedication under tough circumstances etc) to make you feel loved and love you properly, already is incredibly intense and rewarding even when "on paper" you're not doing anything particularly outrageous.

In general though I would agree that relationships work best when both people manage to park their fears about their partner/the relationship and celebrate and love on each other to their best abilities. I think in modern dating there is too much emphasis on not wasting time on someone incompatible, while you cannot find out the true potential of your match until you have allowed yourself to plunge in and give it your all in the first place. If you keep judging and hypothizing and keeping one foot out the door, you also do not allow your partner to give it their all, consciously or subconsciously we want to more or less match the level of enthusiasm and surrender of the other person.

I was very addicted to my ex gf and she said she liked that about me I miss her

>>33640808
order a pizza

>>33640803
that's why you should watch porn. if two people can be paid to do it and film it, it's achievable and possible.

>>33640742
I do hope you don't mean you want to try to fuck her when asked to come over specifically to make her feel at ease after the panic attack...

If you mean more generally, how not to fuck up with your company while she's in a bad state, don't worry, being present and calmly listening well is like 90% also for calming her down.

>>33640805
nta, that's how both me and my boyfriend are. it's been about 5 months and we're still like this. i guess it is still early, and it can wane, but our mutual obsession doesnt really show any signs of slowing

>>33640812
maybe. i don't want to be a narc though, i try to be as considerate as i can. no, i think this idea came to me because i'm just trying to seek purpose through relationships, and this idea creates a fantasy that fulfills that need through an idealized relationship with an idealized personality. i don't trust any aspect of this desire to lead to anything good or meaningful for me or any person i love. thanks for talking reason into me anon, bless you. if you've ever heard economists talk about the "greater fool", i am him

>>33640803
That's why they're fantasies.

>>33640701
When I really feel it, it feels great, incredibly horny and a general zest for life, a lot of energy, I feel confident. But it doesn't happen every time, just like period cramps aren't equally bad every time or something, there are definitely months where I don't notice at all when I'm ovulating.

>>33640818
NTA but yeah, I enjoy talking to you freaks more than I enjoy dating modern women at this point.
The "one foot out the door", nonchalant, "i don't care" stuff, that's not romance, that's pathetic and awful. I get that everyone needs to protect themselves under 2300 layers of irony (japanese irony, folded 2300 times) but seriously, what the hell. I get more emotional engagement from anonymous autistic people than I do from female dates.

>>33640807
Are you having cuddle sex?

>>33640803
>>33640821
This and even if your fantasy is something not physically possible at all (like vore or giantess or whatever), it can still be really thrilling for someone to happily talk (dirty) about it to you.

>>33640831
Then date autistic female anons?

>>33640833
no :(

>>33640827
thats why you usually keep that level of delusional future faking to unhinged and short lived discord encounters

Men, do you think it's interesting that out of the ~200 republicans in congress only about 40, or 20% are women. About a 4:1 ratio of men to women
And of all of them, only 4 of them total want to further investigate the epstein files, and 75% of those are women. Almost 0.5% of male republicans want the epstein files to go away, while almost 10% of republican women want the investigation to continue.

Do you have any thoughts about that at all?

https://porncrush.com/articles/top-10-porn-scenes-from-august-2025/

Do you ever think about porn as an art form?

>>33640835
Autistic women are even worse though. They're either pretending to have emotions or pretending to not have any.

>>33640838
Exactly.

>>33640505
The femanon who made the OP is starting to become annoying asf

>>33640841
Yeah, porn analysis is interesting

>>33640823
i won't rain on your parade. i hope it is as good as you felt it is before reading this post, and continue to feel that way so long as it is good. but it is rare for things to be good at no cost, you know what i mean? do you think you've put in the cost for it?
could be you did. maybe you waited a long time to find the right person, maybe it's been high octane attachment AND instability, perhaps you both went through something deep and it bonded you. i really do hope your dreams come true anon!

>>33640840
I don't like the idea of drawing stats conclusions from politicians because of how weird they are with each ones circumstances and personality. For example, Nancy Mace is like the female politician with the most headlines. If you start taking her as representing Americans or women it's gonna look pretty bad. Although she did do this big fake cry thing about the Epstein testimony I think. She'd be a tripfag here for sure.

>>33640839
i'd rather keep a level head and keep taking my research chemicals if it's all the same to you

>>33640851
reasonable, commendable, mature, thumbs up

>>33640831
I empathize and can imagine. I personally never did online dating because I found the prospect too bleak, though that did make it harder to meet people obviously.

That said as a woman, despite making this point, I feel I am aware of it all the more because the whole "be verrry careful about who you become attached to" thing was very big for me too. There's an additional pressure because at least for me I always felt a lot of pressure to not get pregnant from a guy who would turn out to be an absent/bad father, but at the same time also pressure to not be too picky and not have less kids or kids at a more high risk age. And I guess in general people in theory being so free now to choose their own partner and having such easy access to a big pool of potential partners, means if you end up with the "wrong" one, you have nobody to blame but yourself so best be wise and be very cautious. But again I do think that is ultimately a wrong reasoning because that attitude itself will dramatically lower your chances of connecting with the person who brings out the best in you.

I hate women, they hate me, whatever. But why did they have to interject themselves into every single male dominated hobby? Why did we need women pushed into video games, pro wrestling, MMA, male clubs, etc?

anons, i'm applying to jobs.... any general interview tips? please state if neet before giving advice

>>33640840
First thought: I'm surprised they let their women out of the kitchen even.
Thought number two: What are the stats for the democrat party?
Thought the third: Too much politiccing. I'm exhausted.

>>33640857
you can prevent any rape by just saying yes

>>33640856
at no point in history were video games ever a male hobby. i'm sorry that you fell for toy marketing then gamergate outrage baiting.

>>33640841
Not really because I guess for art I want it to move me emotionally and then you would need actually good acting and a couple that has legitimate believable chemistry. But realististically it's not doable to find both skilled actors that want to become known for doing porn and find people that are not just willing to do it but are also actually skilled specifically at making porn (and not just acting). From what I understand, especially for men it is really difficult to remain hard long in those settings, come on cue etc.

>>33640847
I don't think it was a femanon.

>>33640841
it's called eroge

>no bro don't damage your skin by cutting yourself, just damage your liver by drinking instead bro

why are normies like this?

>>33640859
Bring a bottle of water with you or ask for a cup of water if they have any. Take a drink of water every time you don't have an answer for a question and you need to stall for time.

Also, drink lots of water every day of your life. Live water, love water, have water, be water.

>>33640865
No I'm pretty sure its the same quirk chungus who made all those chad shitposts last thread

>>33640867
Out of sight out of mind.

>>33640852
but i can future fake off of discord! imagine how awesome it'd be to have a gf obsessed with outdoing your displays of affection?

>>33640872
hypocrites, I don't even cut in visible areas

>>33640867
>no sis don't damage yourself by hurting yourself let me damage you instead because it makes my pp hard
why are men like this

>>33640874
you can try, ofc, but things usually are much more effortless and perfect in theory than if you actually try to do them irl

>>33640855
Hah, that reminds me of getting dating advice from my mom and grandma. They mean well, but they lived in a different world, it's like they lived in the garden of Eden or something. They warned me to be careful since girls might get attached. I might break their hearts, hurt them, etc, or they might end up pulling me into something unhealthy. Girls getting attached too much? That would have been a beautiful world to see.

And yeah obviously Hinge doesn't help. Dating girls with 3000 matches just means they're guaranteed to have to ghost 10 guys a week. I don't see how that could possibly encourage people to care seriously about their dates or their partner. It's like emotional numbness training.

>>33640863
Ah yes, no such thing as male hobbies, but female hobbies and spaces need to be protected from men. Kys

>>33640870
You are often sure about things that turn out to not be accurate.

>>33640875
>I don't even cut in visible areas
Then nobody has a reason to remark on it.

>>33640839
oh, was i not supposed to move in with him?

>>33640867
People want to save hot girls from their drunk sorority antics, too.
Nobody cares what ugly men do in their house alone, with knives or bottles.

>>33640876
I don't know why they're like this, hope your not implying I'm one of those

>>33640876
Men are, apparently, terribly afraid of being cucked.

>>33640882
there is no female hobby either, you are very stupid. gender is arbitrarily assigned to various things because it makes them easier to market to a demographic. you are genuinely so idiotic to think it's reality.

>>33640885
you do you, maybe you're the small percentage that can pull it off, definitely worth a try
why throw something away because it might not turn out how you want it to without giving it a chance to prove it actually can?

>>33640884
I was asking for advice and the topic came up

>>33640886
I'm in here every week begging QT to put down the bottle and choose sobriety.
>he's not ugly though
Eye of the beholder.

>>33640886
I'm an ugly man and people tell me I should stop hurting myself, they just don't do a good job at offering alternatives (because they don't really care I guess)

I lift for the idea of a Her

>>33640867
how about lets not damage any part of ourselves for poor reasons
>>33640876
idk why this isn't more addressed or well known about but men's sexuality are tied deeper to their amygdala (e.g. negative emotion, really any energetic negative emotions) than in women, and activating those regions can cause cross activation. you get men that are get angry and rape someone, men that get upset and aroused, and probably far weirder combinations as a result. obviously anger doesn't turn all guys into rapists, but this is why you see the correlation in behaviors on occasion (kinda happens with women too, not as much but a little bit, it's why angry sex is a conceptual thing)

>>33640896
i started cutting again to stop drinking so much, ironically

>>33640892
>gender is arbitrarily assigned to various things
You're really going to argue that men and women don't naturally gravitate towards certain different mediums and stories? We're just going to deny biological reality now?

>>33640827
Oh no, seeking purpose through relationships, that's terrible. Can't have that. It only worked for our ancestors for like, three million years.

>>33640850
So your stance is that the people who are supportive of the people claiming to be epstein victims are doing it for political/headline points?

>>33640860
dems will all sign the petition to force the vote on it, more or less, dems are about 40-50% women. I guess known official numbers right now are 130 dems, but it has broad support. I only know the republican numbers because so few support it that it's easy to see who does.

>>33640901
Draw instead

>>33640903
you are attributing something to "biological reality" that was incepted into your brain by a marketing team. lol, i cannot imagine being this braindead

>>33640904
this
whoever came up with the psyop that making relationships your purpose is bad needs to be punished

>>33640903
Women are BIOLOGICALLY made to knit, and men are BIOLOGICALLY made to paint warhammer. This is not a difficult concept.

>>33640867

Nobody says this.

>>33640906
you don't understand substance abuse / self harm and the reasons people do it if you think doing something like "drawing" replaces it.

it's a coping skill, not a hobby. and there are very few healthy coping mechanisms that work as well or as immediately. certainly not something as frustrating and skill-heavy as drawing.

>>33640840
3 of the 4 female republican representatives are what MTG, Bobert, and Mace? Do you think those women are the ones you want representing your gender?

>>33640905
Politicians aren't useful, everything they do is for headline points, especially the ones like reps that have to get re-elected every 2 years. But I want to say that most of them don't just pull media stunts for attention on a weekly basis like Mace. She's "special." And some of them may genuinely care or be outraged at the Epstein situation. They should be.

>>33640898
>how about lets not damage any part of ourselves for poor reasons
poor reasons? how else am I supposed to feel better when I'm upset?

>>33640895
>>33640896
I stand corrected. I was hoping QT would stop and get sober for that blonde girl he met a while back. I missed the ending of that after she came back from the hospital, but I'm guessing it didn't go well. I was hoping he'd use her for motivation.

>>33640909
Why are you even in an ask the opposite gender thread then, you disingenuous faggot?
>marketing team
Didn't know those existed for thousands of years to influence boys and girls into naturally gravitating towards certain stories. Here I thought our different brain structures and hormones played a part in what we like but nope, it was just marketing teams all along.

>>33640840
>only 4 of them total want to further investigate the epstein files

No, 4 of them are jointly leading the procedure to order further investigation into the Epstein files.

It's not like 4 of them want to do it and every single other Representative doesn't want to do it. If they can get it to a floor vote they will probably win a majority Yes.

>>33640912
>biology is when i like pink and you like blue

>>33640901
I don't even drink honestly, my drunk dad ruined that for me
>>33640906
oh yeah! I draw sometimes, it helps but not always sadly
>>33640913
not verbatim but they do tell me to drink instead

>>33640921
Apparently I want them, retarded as they are, representing me on this matter at least. I wonder why the rest are choosing not to represent the views of their constituents over it.

>>33640929
>video games and dr. pepper 10 have existed for thousands of years. i am the intelligent one here

>>33640922
>Politicians aren't useful
I don't know, I think some of them built the welfare society that I'm currently living in and lets me live in safety and comfort. Even if most of them have been busy dismantling it for the last couple of decades.
NTA btw. Also not american if that wasn't obvious.

>>33640930
it's just a coincidence that every single other representative doesn't want to vote on it? should be the easiest vote in the world.

>>33640925
>how else am I supposed to feel better when I'm upset?
Thigh kisses.

>>33640878
true, this is part of what makes me wonder if i'm even fit for relationships at all. i can't interface with women well, can't even get good expectations of what interfacing well with them looks like. i'm sure i could go through therapy and get more hinged, but then what? learn to swallow my desires and practice being satisfied with whatever therapists think good relationship are? sigh

>>33640892
nta but those things aren't gendered arbitrarily, they're ultimately informed by biology since marketing to a demographic necessarily implies interest in them (you are implying the reverse causality here, marketing as determine the gender of an activity). not to say there aren't like targeted corporate campaigns to genderize things, but you shouldn't pretend that it's all arbitrarily chosen. this is actually a pretty clear cut case of nature vs. nurture, as humans have been obsessed with gendering any kind of object since the dawn of time, and there ARE activities that women can engage in that men can't physically (and vice versa). idk. gendered activities are a pretty standard human universal

>>33640912
>This is not a difficult concept.
Except for the part were it's complete rubbish.

>>33640942

Yeah, it should be, but guess who's not letting it come to a floor vote? Speaker of the House Mike Johnson

>>33640944
they aren't but go off my idiot king

>>33640937
You're being disingenuous again. You are obviously aware that video games that simulate violent warfare are played almost entirely by teenage and young adult men, but let's just keep denying reality.

>>33640945
I was being sarcastic. I'm F and I like nerdy shit - although knitting is also cool.

>>33640949
Don't get her excited or she's gonna start a campaign to have their corporate owners start exclusively marketing them to girls.

>>33640933
Because this is only something low IQ people care about. If they had any evidence Trump fucked a kid the DOJ would have released it when the Democrats were in control

>>33640942

You don't understand how the Hose works. It's not like anybody can just shout out an idea and then everyone immediately votes for it. You have to put together your bill, by yourself or in a small team, it usually has to pass some smaller committee vote, and then its voted on if they even discuss or debate it, and THEN they finally vote Yes or No to make it happen.

>>33640951
>I was being sarcastic.
Oh. It's hard to tell on this board sometimes.

>>33640946
and the other representatives can make him - some of them are, and many are not.
Anyway I'm not trying to /pol/ post. I just want to know why you think it might be that women in the republican congress are like 20x more likely to hold a vote to further investigate the epstein files. The fact that mike johnson specifically doesn't want to himself is a different question.

Women, would you date a bi guy?

>>33640944
>learn to swallow my desires and practice being satisfied with whatever therapists think good relationship are?
Yeh unfortunately they call that "the modern world." Barely anyone else likes it either, but we have to wait like 20 more years until normies come to their senses.

boys
pls post your pics/webms/gifs of messy femcel rooms
anyone got that one of the asian girl cooking as cockroaches run around? or the girl eating pasta out of a bag?

>>33640943
I think kissing my own thighs or myself in general would only make me even sadder

>>33640904
you try being purposeless and try convincing some girl to date you, and tell me how it goes
>>33640925
you can try therapy to strengthen your emotional control, or to at least break the association of cutting with being upset
>>33640947
i mean, the alternative is accepting humans as being fully programmable which is precisely the idea that enabled the most horrific aspects of the 20th and 21st centuries to occur. are you really fine with that?

>>33640961
yeah idc

>>33640966
That's what boys are for.

>>33640964
I dont save pics of girls with messy rooms

>>33640483 (OP)
Where do I meet cingy gf

>>33640822
>>33640747
She told me she was feeling lonely and asked me to come over. But I have no expectations, just a bit a afraid that having no expectations in itself is a way of fumbling.

I didn't know that marketing teams existed for thousands of years across numerous different civiliations in different parts of the world operating independently from each other decided to brainwash boys and girls from birth into liking different things for quite literally no logical reason at all but just because they could. Now I finally see why men and women like different things.

>>33640973
shame on you and your family and your cows

>>33640964
I don't save those. I only save the ones with big tited foids in skimpy bikinis.
>anyone got that one of the asian girl cooking as cockroaches run around?
That one's been posted to death, hasn't it?

>>33640967
Yeah I know how it goes. Don't worry, I got my speech about my high-powered job (that conveniently makes a lot of money) and my goals of saving humanity and helping the poor and sick all lined up properly.
Catch is, I'm having a harder time convincing myself. Everyone loves my life goals except me.

>>33640976
glad you get it now

>>33640822
>If you mean more generally, how not to fuck up with your company while she's in a bad state, don't worry, being present and calmly listening well is like 90% also for calming her down.
also, thanks. this is what i was hoping for. so I just need to be around her and give her a hug while i listen to her?

>>33640978
lame lame lame booooo

>>33640967
>you can try therapy to strengthen your emotional control, or to at least break the association of cutting with being upset
yeah I've been avoiding therapy for years but I think I do actually need therapy
>>33640971
but I'm straight

>>33640977
Why would I save the pictures of disgusting femcels when there are plenty of pictures of big titted stacies available?

>>33640976
Pink being a girly colour is a modern invention barely a century old.

>>33640986
A social construct, even.

>>33640981
nta but i wouldn't necessarily give her a hug unless you're certain she'll take it okay, like the other anon said i think just presence is good. be present, be consistent (this is important, i mean consistent in being there, in supporting, in tone, etc), listen, try not to ask questions unless you know they'd be fine with it. if she's actively panicking, then you need to find a way to calm her down. get her distracted, deep breathing, obviously try to avoid anything with caffeine or nicotine. all i can think of.
>>33640984
you think? i would recommend trying to avoid it less, you'll have less problems that way

>>33640986
Shhh, if you tell them that Rome wasn't exactly like america in the 50's through the 80's they might have a mental break.

>>33640980
But sir, from a marketing standpoint wouldn't it make more sense if we tried to make everyone like the same exact things in order to appeal to a wider mass audience while not needing as much creative thinking or labor that would be typically needed to fill niche hobbies and interests?

>>33640976
Corporate bullshit is pretty recent, but people have been trying to build something they call "civilization" for 10,000 years now. After a lot of trial and error, civilizations settled on some of the same patterns and ideas because they all found that it made society easier to run. You could say that's an example of convergent evolution, but through culture instead of biology. Both biology and culture use trial and error to advance and get results, and both came up with some things to do with men and women. Oftentimes, they worked together.

Really, the thing that's completely new is culture deciding that biology sucks and has to be subjugated with force and propaganda. You could say that culture and biology are in an acrimonious divorce.

>>33640982
You get big tits in a ridiculously high cut bathing suit, just for that.

>>33640986
so what? this doesn't negate the fact that human beings are naturally inclined to 'gendering' stuff, even colors. many nations throughout many times associate particular colors with particular genders. so obviously girly colors aren't a modern invention, so what does it matter if the particular color in the 'West' is pink and that that's a 'modern' invention?

>>33640976
>no logical reason at all but just because they could

No, there's a very logical reason, they want their parents money.

One of the easiest ways to make a product more attractive is if you suggest that it's for YOUR group and not another. And boys vs. girls is one of the earliest things children tribalize over.

>>33640998
furios af
>>33640985
for fun

>>33640992
>the 50's through the 80's
this is unrelated but I think we're going to look back on that as the golden age of humanity. Life's not gonna get that easy again, or as fun.

>>33640903
>>33640892

Another case of people running too hard in either direction.. this is more nuanced. Yes males and females can have different inclinations (inclination is a very, very key word here...)
Yes, marketing can be arbitrarily pitched to one gender or another. If you were in Russia in the early 20th century, long range target shooting was a woman's hobby.

There's also the story of how video games nearly died, and when Nintendo came into the scene they needed to laser target a demographic and they chose male children to market hard towards. Before then it was a very unisex and ageless activity. But gaming became male territory due to marketing.
This is quickly changing as more and more women grow up gaming because their 80s and 90s gaming parents will raise children of either gender to be gamers...

There is a lot of room for nuance here.
Also to the guy who said pink and blue, if not a troll, that is 100% an arbitrary cultural thing ya mook.

Picrel. A child portrait of Franklin Roosevelt. A totally normal way to dress a male toddler at the time. Your concept of gendered things has deep roots in culture.

Question for lesbian or bi girls: have you ever commented the looks of other girls together with guys? Particularly raunchy comments.

Is 4chan a grooming and training ground for male rapists?

>>33641010
>80s and 90s gaming parents
This is unclear. 80s and 90s kids who were gamers that are now parents. Sorry.

>>33640961
Yes happily.

>>33640992
The roman republic was dope.

>>33640989
So, if she's venting out with me, I just let her go on instead of trying to offer her solutions?

>>33640989
>you think? i would recommend trying to avoid it less, you'll have less problems that way
I mean I've gone to therapy in the past but it just made me uncomfortable especially when we were working on making eye contact

>>33640992
High heels were originally associated with military cavalry and from the spread into fashion by men trying to look manly by exude an image of martial prowess.

>>33641013
No. Its just somewhere social retards come and feed off one another. Any kind of shitty male behaviour that comes of this is just a by product.

>>33640662
>i'm a certified man who is not gay
Not YET.

How attractive are the femanons of atoga?

>>33640528
Please do it anon. This place needs a bath.

>>33641004
Division and squabbling is BAD for making money, idiot. If you wanted to maximize profits you would push the idea that there are no such thing as gendered hobbies and that men and women can all enjoy the same things in order to appeal to as many people as possible (which is what (((they))) are doing right now), but of course this will never be the case in reality because men and women DO naturally like different things and neither want the "little bit of everything for everybody" approach to modern entertainment that we have now.

>>33641007
Attractive women are for fun.
Femcel type women should only ever be settled for.

>>33641018

Yeah, and who wears them now? Women, because it exaggerates feminine posture

>>33641002
>so obviously girly colors aren't a modern invention
Not obvious at all.
> so what does it matter if the particular color in the 'West' is pink and that that's a 'modern' invention?
It matters because it clearly demonstrates how gendered social constructs not defined by biology.

Did he scream in torment as the fat man with a thin face raped him up the butt?

>>33640582
Do not redeem the sex!

>>33640981
You're welcome. Only hug her if she asks for it specifically, it can be both soothing or triggering and you don't know which one until she informs you so take her lead there.

Yeah listening really is king. The thing is you won't have a solution for her issue (because a panic attack is about emotions of fear/powerlessness and not a practical issue in the first place) and she probably won't expect you to, either. But simply acknowledging her feelings and allowing those to be there and be heard, can make her feel that it's going to be okay because it is okay even when she doesn't feel okay. If you get what I mean. She needs to learn to become at peace with herself at her worst and then that will give her relief and reassurance that will keep it from even getting that bad (as often). Other people accepting us even when we are a mess, is hugely reaffirming to help you accept yourself as a mess and lovingly pick yourself up from that.

>>33641026
Women now wear baggy clothes that obscure their figure, thoughbeit

>>33640997
um, you seem to be missing the connection that what civilizations are most likely to survive are going to be the ones that agree the most with our biology. hence savagery lasted tens of thousands of years. kings and queens are still ongoing! it is true that nature and society are dual-modifying processes, although we have been animals/smart primitive humans for so much an insanely longer period of time than history has even been around that it is very unlikely the society has deeply modified our genes by this point. maybe the most modern medicine because it can keep people around that would have otherwise died in childhood, but probably our genes and nature are not drastically different from our oldest recognizeably-human ancestors

>>33641030
Reminder that physical compliments are tokens that you can redeem in exchange for sex.

>>33641025
What are you saying, that black women are for fun and white women are for marriage+babies?

>>33641017
Anon, women judge you on like 20,000 things and body language is just the start. Sorry to be harsh, but go back to therapy if you can spare the budget for it. Doing shit you hate is like, the start of the process, you will have to learn to do like 2000 more things that make you uncomfortable.
As an aside, I still, even after so many years on earth, still don't end up making any eye contact unless I consciously remember. This shit is hard, I know. You have to keep so many things in your head at all times, I don't think humans ever do anything as hard as a 10-second social interaction in terms of the number of behaviors that have to be performed at the same time.

>>33641024
See >>33641010 it is a true fact that video games survived due to targeting males.
Also I am someone in marketing.. selling an identity breeds more loyalty which breeds repeat customers and advocacy. You sell an identity by targeting more specific demographics.
Some things are better marketed to a broader audience. Some things do do better if you pick a niche group. So yes, there absolutely is benefit to marketing something as "for male children" or "for adult women" or "for black people" etc.

>>33640981
>>33641031
Also just a heads up, if you do this well and you do make her feel a lot better relatively fast, odds are very high that her relief and gratitude will turn sexual and she will suggest something. Then you should tell her you would love to but she is not in the right headspace and it does not feel right in that situation, you would love to talk about it after she calmed down even more.

I know this is asking for a lot of willpower depending on how much you would like to have sex with her. The problem is if her proposal really is motivated hugely by gratitude or the mixture of confusing feelings of the moment, chances are she will not feel good about it after she woke up and is in a different mindspace altogether. And if she talks about it to others, even if she stresses it was her idea, you will sound like an asshole for consoling her and then fucking her right after. So spare both yourselves that option and if she does not change her mind, you will have also scored a big green flag and she will only want you more.

>>33641032

Because fashion corporations told them this is in style so they'd buy new clothes

>>33641032
The fuck? Women now wear tight leggings that accentuates the buttcrack.

>>33641034
Hey bb, nice titties!
*gets arrested*

>>33641036
guess I'll go back to therapy once I can afford since now I have to use my money instead of my parents' money

>>33641028
okay but humans having gendered social constructs is pretty defined by biology, so what's the end game here? even if pink was 'picked', it's still the case that that's what we associate with femininity, no amount of saying "well yeah, but it's just a social construct!" will make it less valid that pink is a feminine lol. maybe it require some complicated path dependent process for pink to be chosen, and any other color could have done. we do not live in a society where the feminine color is "something other than pink", it is in fact the opposite. so?

>>33641043
Well obviously it doesn't work on women. You have to give them to men.

>>33641042
Gooner tunnel vision, all the college age girls are wearing baggy jeans now

>>33641034
Which compliments just got him laid?

>>33641011
Yeah for sure. There's definitely a line I wouldn't cross though, I'm not going to detail some explicit fantasy about someone just out of earshot, that feels hugely disrespectful. But with a movie scene or something yeah.

I am picky about who I will do this with though, as for some guys it can definitely read as that they can say whatever inane shit about women to you and you won't care. And if you correct that image he will be even more butthurt if he previously thought you were "cool".

>>33641035
No, attractive women(like the one in the webm) are for fun but also marriage and babies.
Ugly women are only for marraige and babies when you cant get an attractive women.

what is the single sexiest thing a person of the opposite gender can do in your opinion?

>>33641034
It's impossible to tell whether half the posts here are written by men or misandrists making fun of them

>>33641053
but that girl is black, your babies would be brown...

How can I tell if I'm licking her pussy properly?

>>33641060
And...?

>>33641056

M, kiss the tip of my cock

>>33641056
blogpost

if you don't eat the crust of a pizza it give me the ick

>>33641067
depends on the chain, some make their crusts smell like dog

>>33641038
Not to be too insulting, but,... okay, this is going to sound insulting. A lot of people in industries like marketing, media, etc are pretty morons who get their jobs by knowing the right people. They create 2000 marketing campaigns and 2 of them happen to work, by sheer luck and accident. Most of them just waste investors' money, most startups never make a profit, and most companies fail. Marketers are mostly morons who, in the past, lucked into successful campaigns by primitive brute force (men like breasts and cowboys) and these days, are not having any success at all (media and entertainment ndustries are all struggling to survive)

The fact that they happened to luck into "boys seem to like shooting games made by indie programmers, let's put together a budget, make some and sell them" is basically toddler tier work.
But you can bet they burned more stock money than Elon Musk will ever see, trying everything else and getting fired. Let's not even start thinking about how many billions have been spent trying to make girls like FPS games, and how many African countries that money could have lifted out of poverty.

Women, please masturbate today. Your self care is important.

why do cigarettes make me get all shaky sometimes?

>>33641070
i already did

>>33641068
oh yeah also if you don't support your local pizza place that also gives me the ick

>>33641047
>no amount of saying "well yeah, but it's just a social construct!" will make it less valid that pink is a feminine
If you think so then there is no having a discussion with you. Because to me it clearly demonstrates the opposite, that it does make pink being feminine a less valid argument, because it's arbitrarily defined and can therefore be arbitrarily changed and redefined. But mostly it is a counteraxample to anon's (your?) notion that things have always and everywhere been as they are and therefore it's biology.

>>33641075
based

>>33641073
Excellent

>>33641073
*licks your pussy cream*

>>33641073
What inspired you?

>>33641061
If you can't tell, you aren't.

>>33641016
>So, if she's venting out with me, I just let her go on instead of trying to offer her solutions?
yes, more or less. solutions aren't going to be helpful, her problems likely aren't going to be the kind that you can fix for her or that she can fix easily. you will not be offering her anything she probably hasn't thought about, if she's a properly traumatized. this is not due to negligence on her part, but what is in effect brain damage.

the other anon offers good advice, i want to offer an alternative viewpoint of panic attacks, neither are wrong. panic attacks (and trauma in general imo but i digress) should be viewed as physical conditions. during a panic attack, your brain is in trapped in a hormonal loop because your brain is as certain as you are awake that you are going to die if you do not do SOMETHING to keep yourself alive. it is not comfortable and a very hard state to stay rational in. it could be something directly caused it (maybe someone robbed her or something), could be something indirect caused it (retraumatization). this is why i was warning about stimulants: they can trigger panic attacks if you're already on edge enough. if you want to calm that part of her brain down, you have to get her distracted from potential threats while she's in a state of hyperawareness of potential threats (which is, of course, the challenge). just by being an object there for her to talk to and focus on, you are offering her tools to calm down.

Men, how often do you shave?

>>33641085
Whenever I go out with a girl

>>33641085
When I have to leave the house that day, so almost everyday.

Women, how often do you shave?

>>33641061
Because she responds to it. Even a partner who isn't vocal much at all will start breathing more deeply when they get aroused, for example, or you will notice her getting more wet or swollen while down there.

There is no right or wrong way to do it, bracketing stuff that hurts. It is just a matter of experimenting until you find what works for her. Some women love a combination of a finger dipping in and out with licking, others want no distraction from the oral. Some women want their clit sucked on and for others it's so sensitive they only want it circled. Some women love fast lapping and others only care for slow langurous licks. Just try a bunch of things and when you honestly can't tell, ask her to guide you and give more specific feedback in terms of what she likes most.

>>33641085
Every couple of years.

>>33641086
How long is your wizard beard?

>>33641088
basically never. i shave my armpits when they start to feel sweaty. i don't shave my legs. i trim my pussy hairs when it becomes too jungly

>>33641085
every 2 days because I can barely grow a beard so it just looks bad and also hate it when I touch my face and it's not smooth

>>33641085
every day I see my girlfriend so the hair spikes dont poke her

>>33641089
Thanks for effortposting

>>33641093
>when they start to feel sweaty
>when it becomes too jungly
How often is that?

>>33641088
literally at a random point in time whenever i feel acute embarassment. i'll be going about my day and then be like "oh, yuck! i'm gross!" and take a MegaShower to get everything clean and right and then i won't do it again for ages.

>>33641091
That's about as often as I have sex

>>33641092
Not that long, I thought we were talking about pubes and pits

>>33641100

>>33641099
>literally at a random point in time whenever i feel acute embarassment
Foid moment.

>>33641047
NTA but I don't see what you're even arguing about with that anon. I want to talk about this stuff but I need something to say, lol.
Here's a hint: cultures disagree a lot on pink and blue because they don't matter. But when it's something that matters, you find that cultures tend to agree a lot more. But then you have to argue about whether they agree because of biology encouraging them to take that path, or because of efficiency and success they found by taking that path.

Women, could you pick a >>>/gif/ thread for me to masturbate to?

>>33641102
this one is going to the anime armpits folder thanks anon

>come up with a first message relating to her profile pictures
>she likes the message
>she responds hahahahaha
>then nothing
nigga what the fuck am I supposed to do with this

>>33641104
nta video games don't matter

thanks to whoever picked up this argument for me, there's no way i could argue with idiots like this for that long

>>33641102
>I thought we were talking about pubes and pits
Because the thought of a man shaving his face is inconceivable to you? How long is your wizard beard!?

>>33641076
it's arbitrarily defined but it wasn't arbitrarily arrived at, i guess that's my point. there wasn't some executive board meeting where "pin the tail on the color wheel" was played when "girl" was chosen out of a hat, and pink was given a tail then. it is, by definition, not arbitrary. instead what happened is that some people needed a girl color, and they thought "what colors do girls like?" and thought they've seen girls with pink, or perhaps they picked objects that were favored by girls and picked colors from that. femininity is intimately connected to the choice of pink, even if it doesn't say "pink is the woman's color" in the bible. i mean, at what point do you think biology stops and tabula rasa starts?

>>33641069

Man, you have zero clue wtf youre talking about and this reads like aomeone who will enter any debate at all and just wing it pulling arguments off the top of their head as they go..

No, marketing isnt luck. Its actually extremely refined and we do know what works. Google amazon and Facebook have built their entire world ruling empires on big data and marketing.

And when I say I do it I don't mean its my career, its something I dabble in for my wife's business, and even at my low level, I know how it works. When I make an ad Im not just randomly throwing something out and hoping.

I know very specific statistical metrics. I know what demographic of person buys my wifes service, I know the best age group, I know the season they buy the most.

I know if I target this demographic with ads, exactly 5% will click (stellar in marketing. A known figure thats pretty standard) i know of those 5%, about 2% will book a service today.

These are consistent numbers. I know the cost of reaching 1000 people, I know how kuch money will be returned to us if I reach a thousand people.

Which means if I want to fill her schedule, I know exactly who I need to target and how much money I need to spend.

The closest thing to what youre talking about is Ill do what we call A|B marketing. This is where if I want to run a social media ad, I will have two different ads which will run and test which one is getting more response and then phase the other out.

And again, I am an amateur. And I can tap the science pretty well.

Just don't argue if you dont know what youre talking about. Youre not arguing in good faith. You have a view of the world you want to defend. No matter what anyone says you'll just make shit up to defend it.
"Marketing doesnt work how you think it does"
"Hurr durr well marketing, a field i know nothing about is all wrong and full of morons" come on man. Dont be this stupid.

>>33641099
I wish I could feel anxious or embarrassment or something, maybe I could be normal again then.

My friend told me she prayed once to meet someone and then she immediately met her boyfriend, who also was going to give up if it didn’t work out with her. And I told her I’ve been praying a lot for it and she said it’s just not my time yet. When is it going to be my time? Genuinely, how do I get God to love me again?

>>33641085
my head? every 2 days
my beard? I line it up every 2 days too

I'm gonna go take a shower, which a nice femanon could help me wash my back but oh well life is simply not fair

>>33641097
not very. armpits maybe every 2 weeks in the summer? never in the winter. bush gets trimmed like, quarterly

>>33641105
blacked

>>33641105
Mpreg

>>33641105
some rekt stuff

>>33641096
You're welcome, good luck! I forgot to add but while it's easier said than done, if you can manage to relax more and not rate your own performance but just get lost in getting to play with her pussy with your mouth, that's usually a great way for her to enjoy it more. For one thing if you are more relaxed and actively turned on by the act yourself, you will relax more in your movements too and those will become more instinctive and natural. And on the receiving end you can definitely tell the difference between a guy being in his mind about it (whether he doesn't like it that much or he's just worrying he's doing well) and one that is just enjoying you like ice cream. Enthusiasm and love/passion also have their own appeal and make technique matter less. It will also be easier for her to let go if she feels you have already done that.

>>33641110
>people needed a girl color
Which was light blue if you had asked my granny. Pink was for boys.

>>33641056
M. Be vulnerable so I can rescue her.
(emotionally, physically, changing lightbulbs and tires, whatever)

This thread suxks

>>33641125
You suck, Sarge.

Do women like to clean and care for stinky male pee pee's?

>>33641125
be the change you want to see in the thread, anon, instead of bitchposting

>>33641116
>armpits maybe every 2 weeks in the summer?
That's very often if you ask me.

>>33641109
Shaving your face is pretty normal anon... But I don't grow a good beard so whenever

Women, I have a full beard but no pubic hair. Is that an issue?

I’m kind of enbarassed by it so I plan to go to Istanbul and have my facial hair be transplanted into my groin. The only downisde is that I may never be able to regrow a full beard ever again.

I don’t understand how some people are just so lucky

>>33641085
every day if I'm going out every day

>>33641056
non-sexually?
probably wear the type of fashion I find sexy
sexually?
teasing in public settings. Love doing it, love being on the receiving end

>>33641108
I think video games are halfway into the realm of things that matter. They definitely fulfill a psychological need for boys/men, to feel like the work they do matters, to see results in exchange for input, to feel like someone cares about them, to exert satisfying violence and see results from it, etc.
They're not real, but they're interesting because they do psychologically fill needs as if they were real

>>33641133
Anal rape

>>33640964
>boys
I am not sure why you ask that specifically..

>>33641132
If you have no public hair, you are bald.

>>33641138
That anon is a philadelphile.

>>33641133
some people have decent enough parents that encourage them to get friends and develop social skills and they don't permanently fuck them psychologically and they actually prepare them for adult life

>>33641123
okay. well your grandma's preferences didn't turn into a zeitgeist. this doesn't make her preferences invalid, and neither does it invalidate the zeitgeist. the thing is that you CAN'T just arbitrarily redefine things. people with your mindset have been trying it with gender for YEARS, they've gotten as high as the presidency and corporate investors, and still it isn't working (outside of the terminally online types). implicit in the idea that
>pink isn't a girl's color, it's just a social construct
is that a "girl" thing cannot be chosen, despite the fact that many women pick such girly things everyday, and they feel feminine for doing it, which is exactly what a feminine thing does.

>>33641132
i prefer the opposite to what you have but getting a whole operation for that is insane (imo)

listening to pot-addled center left liberals attempt a discussion about anything with each other is true torture
foids?
moids?

>>33641118
>>33641119
>>33641120
This could be challenging

>>33641140
Like that cream?

Does anyone else get grilled about their dating life and then get humiliated when you have to admit that you got left/dumped/ghosted several times

>>33641145
It could be worse, they could be MAGA cultists.

>>33641145
Yeah, hate shitlibs.

As a leftist liberal I unironically like Hoover institute content

>>33641149
No, people just assume I'm not dating anyone, same as it has been the past ten years

Should a man approach a woman at any time ever?

>>33641152
They've published some decent books over the decades and they're not as outright insane as somewhere like The Heritage Foundation, so that's something at least.

>>33641152
>leftist liberal
>leftist
>liberal
I'm a stinky Noble gas

>>33641155
I don't think it counts as harassment if you know each other.

>>33641157
You have stinky gases coming from your bare feet.

Men I’m so fucking ugly lol I’m actually sorry I sincerely apologize to anyone who has ever had to touch me

>>33641160
Apology accepted

>>33641160
I want to touch your boobies.

>>33641160
*touches you willingly*

>>33641111
Okay, I shouldn't have just said all marketers are morons, obviously there's a big part of the industry that does normal work like you do (meaning, you actually try to sell a product for a financial profit and face consequences if you fail). I guess when we're talking about "radically rethinking gender relations" and things, it's easy to immediately jump to a different echelon, where pretty girls with gender studies degrees burn 8 billion dollars of some investor's DEI initiative on total garbage.

These are also 2 different things, really. When you do real work, you're saying "I know who buys knitting yarn, and I can sell them this knitting yarn."
But the other kind of person we're talking about here, who says "I can make people who have never bought knitting yarn buy it with my ads, in order to make our chauvinistic society more equal", those are way less serious people, and I did want to jump in to insult them, and even the idea that they could have success except by random luck.

Is it true that when you stop looking for lov, you find someone

I had a cyst on my boob a while ago, now it's left a nasty dark scar on my otherwise pristine pale boob

>>33641165
No, that phrase is what is called a thought-terminating cliche.

>>33641158
It definitely does lol

>>33641165
yes it is true, I found love after giving up, I was finally comfortable being alone then she came into my life out of nowhere and then 3 months later she left me and now I'm more depressed than ever why is god like this?

>>33641165
It's true if you're pretty, ugly people/mid have to try harder

>>33641150
I know what you mean. I'm on the right if you categorize my views but sometimes its just:
>"uh uh uh have you heard about gooning??"
>"Goons?"
>"no! yeah! gooning?"
>"What are you saying?"
>"Uh uh you know what edging is???"
>"Yes I know what edging is..."
>"Ok so it's like edging but you don't cum!"
>"And people do this?"
>"Oh yeah people love doing this."
>"And...?"
>:blank stare:
>"Ok so moving on"

Do you wear JNCO trousers, a bucket hat, and wraparound shades like you are in a '90s boy band? Do you also have frosted tips and a soul patch?

>>33641168
What’s that?
>>33641172
Same thing hapoened to me. He left and now I feel worse than when I was terminally alone
>>33641173
I’m pretty mid, I don’t know if it’s even worth trying anymore

>>33641164
nta but marketers are some of the most black pilled people in existence. that particular anon isnt guilty of this, but the kind of people doing the research and work that had led to that anon being as effective as he is with marketing is evil if it exists on earth, people that leverage your biology against you to try and extract value (e.g. your time) from you, which is why that anon can be as exact as he can with the numbers he has. it is heinous. (not that anon, but the people who developed and refine the tools and research he uses to be effective at marketing, but modern tools don't make it hard because human biology really is just THAT predictable)

>>33641133
unfortunately some people born in a rich family

>>33641174
sure, my boomer-y neighbors were shocked when their kids told them about anime porn back in the 2010s and they thought it was some kind of horrible new trend when anyone into anime at all knows hentai existed since the '70s.

I actually feel sick to my stomach about my face right now I am hideous no wonder no one wants me I look like a beast from a hell that was born to torture babies

>>33641172
>>33641176
hey wait a minute, this happened to me too. class action?

>>33641150
Those are just funny with their mental gymnastics especially when it comes to the involvement of their dear leader in Epsteins island

>>33641131
>Shaving your face is pretty normal anon...
Well yes, that's what I was trying to imply to you.

>>33641133
its not luck
Fortune unironically favors the bold.
God hates thinkers, he favors those who act

>>33641181
If you're skinny it's okay, just wear a dress and spin around, focus on the hem of the dress flying around. girls are not beasts even ugly ones

>>33641175
everything between the year 1901 and 2024 was cringe, especially the 90s and 2000s, and at least half the stuff from 2025 is cringe

>>33641143
>didn't turn into a zeitgeist
It WAS the zeitgeist, at the time and place she grew up.

>>33641176
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought-terminating_cliché

It's a phrase that someone uses because it sounds vaguely like advice or a profound statement, but actually doesn't lead to any actual conclusions. eg someone saying "these things happen for a reason" or "God works in mysterious ways".

You know you're facing a thought-terminating cliche when you ask someone to clarify what they mean and they get frustrated by your questioning them.

>>33641186
Face is everything fuck you

>>33641136
you are genuinely very unintelligent, please stop attempting to converse with me, there's only so much braindead made up nonsense i can tolerate

“It’s not my time” just admit that I’m ugly

When is it going to be my time? When my egg are all dried up? When I’m old? When I’m dying? When I’m irreversibly suicidal? When I’m perfect?

>>33641185
I tried to be bold quite a few times and just got humiliated, what’s that about?

>>33641191
Well, some guys are ass men.

>>33641194
Come on, you're probably not that old.

>>33641194
It may never be your time.

>>33641196
Fortune favors the persistent

>>33641196
If there wasn't a significant risk of setback it wouldn't be boldness.

>>33641194
>foid aiming for top .1% richchad gets rejected and now cries she's ugly so simps can shower her in attention
she's not ugly
it's so tiring

>>33641194
This is one of those phrases where you need to question anyone who uses it. Give them an "okay, so what do you REALLY mean by that?" Watch them struggle to expand on the statement.

FEMANONS, in general, do you think you can compete?

MALEANONS, you need not answer, I know you aren't even trying.

>>33641204
Tbf some of y'all are rich as fuck

>>33641205
I think what she meant was, it might happen soon and that I have to keep trying. But she got it in one

>>33641196
did you learn something from that? did you apply what you learned?
What you see as people getting lucky is most of the time them being persistent.
Success overshadows the previous failures. On average 12 businesses fail before you hit proper success

>>33641209
>MALEANONS, you need not answer, I know you aren't even trying.
Well, sure. I was told 20 years ago that if I just stopped looking the right one would come. I just stopped looking and the right one never came.

>>33641209
Sorry, forgot webm, see pic related

Who remembers aura farming and pov rizz cams?

State gender,
what would your reaction be if your partner wanted to track your location whenever you went out alone?

>>33641209
>FEMANONS, in general, do you think you can compete?
No, not anymore. I dont mind, I guess. I have my escapisms and get to ship characters and whatnot

>>33641214
M
this is so repulsive

>>33641201
How so? I’ve been persistent to the point of mental deterioration
>>33641202
How do you weigh the risks vs benefits

>>33641214
Jealous moid hands.

>>33641216
M, and sure. I know she'd get bored of looking at my tracker run errands after looking at it for like 10 minutes

>>33641189
anon i really truly don't get it, what is the difference to you (truly) between "this color is gendered objectively" vs. "this color is gendered spiritually"? do you not believe in the significance in individual or collective choice?
because even if you believe "pink isn't objectively feminine", it still fulfills all the roles of an objectively feminine thing, and it is imbued that by forces you cannot shape. so what's the big deal? why can't pink be feminine? i liked feminists better when they were like "i don't have to pick feminine things just because i'm a girl!" instead of trying to pretend like femininity doesn't exist. how do you even square that with things like transgenderism? or do you deny transgenered women their femininity?

>>33641214
YJK one them big back football niggas finna break off that fine lil white boy

>>33641204
I am ugly and I want a poor man
You think I’m not tired

>>33641216
M
Fuck that noise. I have no space in my life for someone who is that paranoid.

State gender
If you had to live in a slavic country, which one would you choose?

>>33641209
i compete in puyo puyo tetris

I don’t think anyone should be around me I’m cursed and bring pain to them all

>>33641216
F
Yea I want to know hes watching me

M or F

Would you agree it's a lesson you need to learn in life that it's better to be shameless?

>>33641231
LEMME WAIFU
I bought an arcade stick years ago and all I really ended up using it for was PPT. lmao

>>33641216
M
I would be ok with that

>>33641220
>How do you weigh the risks vs benefits
Mostly it's just a gut feeling.

>>33641216
m
depends on the vibe of why she's asking. if it's coming from a place of insecurity then my reaction is a firm no and a good faith effort to address the insecurity. if she's asking because she's legitimately concerned about my well being, or even just wants to laugh at how i stay in my house all day, that's fine too. i might even do the insecurity thing, too, if i felt confident it was being addressed and i didn't think giving her my location would contribute to it, but it'd be with a firm understanding that if she grills me on it, it's a one-strike-and-it's-gone situation.

>>33641230
F
Russia

>>33641209
compete at what?

>>33641212
They tried one time and got what I’ve been trying to get my entire life

>>33641234
F
No I think more people should feel ashamed. Trash on the streets is because of people who feel no shame. People mistreating each other is because of lack of shame.

>>33641243
You are lost if you have to ask.

>>33641232
Come on. Are you the ugly girl? At least you have to admit that's not true. I've met really sweet ugly girls who I'm happy to have had in my life.

>>33641216
M
No, only if I am on a hike and she wants to do that for safety reasons.
But I already share pics every hour or so with friends and family through my status anyway.

>>33641234
F
i think people should be more ashamed. It would avoid a lot of guys rubbing their dicks next to me on the subway.

>>33641243
Poker

Taking a break at work rn. I've decided working out, exercise, brushing my teeth, showering, saving money, and actually completing projects and daily tasks isn't that hard.

I'll report back in 5 years.

>>33641209
i don't compete, period

>>33641253
>>33641214
You are such a petty little bitch. lol

>>33641230
M
Slovakia, probably in Bratislava.

>>33641230
Poland or the Baltics/Finland. I'm okay with the cold, the women are insanely hot, and the economy isn't that bad.

>>33641234
oh not universally, i think the issue (like that other anon pointed out) isn't that we have too much shame, but that our shame is distributed in very weird places right now. we shame ourselves for like really basic things that all of humans have done for eternity, but then entertain things that are naturally degrading, like ugly architecture or disconnection from your surroundings (i.e. littering).

>>33641234
M. It's a lesson every man has to learn but it makes us worse people, not better people. Becoming a worse person than you wanted to be is unfortunately part of the process and pain of going down the path as a man.

>>33641182
yeah I want to sue life, I want to go back to being comfortably lonely

>>33641224
you are so fucking idiotic lmao

how do you bumble through your life like this

>>33641249
If you ever met an ugly girl who was evil that was me

>>33641235
same

How do I stop worrying about the money people owe me I just want to let it go

>>33641220
>I’ve been persistent to the point of mental deterioration
I know that feel bro.

>>33641270
stop lending money they're just taking advantage of you

>>33641267
if you're ugly the minimum u should do is be nice

>>33641216
f, with my current partner i'd be fine with it, i already gave him my iphone location. its a huge red flag for a man to ask for it though, because it's usually abusers

>>33641266
it helps when the people you talk to can't support their beliefs and you get to watch them try to act smug to save face. it is in fact one of the twelve secret herbs and spices of life (don't tell anyone)

>>33641230
M, Serbian
I choose Poland

>>33641259
Good choice unfortunately the nice parts of Bratislava are super expensive compared to the local salaries.
>>33641242
I dont think that'd go very well for you

>>33641274
I am nice but I’m still just horrible I have an evil dead soul

>>33641278
Why?

>>33641279
Im russian

>>33641224
>"this color is gendered objectively" vs. "this color is gendered spiritually"
It's the difference between this is how it must be vs. this is how you choose it to be.
>it still fulfills all the roles of an objectively feminine thing
It doesn't.
>why can't pink be feminine?
Because it imposes arbitrary and unnecessary limitations on people.

>how do you even square that with things like transgenderism?
Me personally? I don't. I won't speak for anyone else, but transgenderism doesn't make sense to me.

>>33641270
probably like this anon said, don't lend people money if it stresses you out. really though, a forgiving tit for tat makes it work. lend someone money, if they pay it back in a reasonable manner then do it again if they ask, if they don't pay it back then don't lend to them and (if it was a particularly egregious thing) then discourage others from doing so. and if they come and pay it off finally, then let bygones be bygones and lend them again if they need it. this is a simple system and you don't have to stress out about anything.

>>33641277
it's like supporting my belief that the sky is blue and the grass is green. why would i argue with someone who's insistent that because the nfl spray paints the astroturf white, grass is actually biologically white.

lmfao its like playing chess with someone who's scribbling xes and os on the board with crayons

>>33641234
F, depends, like the other anons said if with shameless you mean rubbing one out on the train because it's your only life and it's a thrill, then no.

But if it's about those things that are not in any meaningful way wrong but still make people self-conscious (liking a conventionally unpopular hobby/interest, being attracted to a type not conventionally considered hot or liking a style of clothing that is not seen as proper) then yes I do agree if you truly want it and it's ultimately harmless, it is worth dealing with some negativity if it also means you get to live the life you actually want, on your own terms.

I think people should be ashamed of things they did that are "beneath them", not in line with their morals or the kind of person they want to be. Then shame serves a function and can help you grow. But beating yourself up over seemingly being awkward or something is a total waste of energy.

>>33641230
F, Russia

>>33641266
Bumbling through life is the human condition.

>>33641272
What do I do

>>33641286
My condolences.

You guys are my only friends the only people who understand me or the only people who I understand at least. Everyone else I feel like is living on a different planet

>>33641301
Same here, brother. Love you too.

>>33641300
fuck you

>>33641270
>people ow me money
Don't lend money, and definitely don't lend money to people you don't trust. Since you clearly failed on both those points the only way to stop worrying about it now is to write it off as a loss, take it as a dearly paid life lesson and move on with your life.

>>33641301
relatable content

>>33641273
But they like. Ask me to pay for them even though I make sure I never owe anyone any money
>>33641289
I try not to but sometimes I’ll be in a situation where they say oh I don’t have cash oh I don’t want to use my card but I’ll pay you back and I’m just like ? With what? And I hate asking for like $20 back but it stresses me out when it starts adding up

>>33641286
I am so sorry to hear that, good luck!

>try my hardest
>anon youre not trying hard enough
What do I do

>>33641301
That's because you just project your interpretation of our words onto the screen.
Anons only understand each other at a very superficial level.

>>33641310
rest, try again, rest, try again

>>33641309
Russia is a good country, youre just too American

>>33641311
You guys are the only ones who talk to me

>>33641310
If that was supposed to be a question, clearly not trying hard enough.

>Just saw a video on Instagram
>First day of kindergarten and a bunch of babies are crying
>All the women in the comments making fun how only the boys are crying and the girls are sitting quietly
>They are insulting and seething over literal baby boys
>The girls are sooo superior and well behaved as opposed to the dramatic and fragile ego males
Women why do you hate males so much that you even hate male children?

>>33641301
What am I meant to understand exactly? And suppose I do, how does that change things for the better?

>>33641318
male babies statistically cry more and are more difficult

>>33641310
>What do I do
You fail.

>>33641320
Why?

>>33641318
poking fun =/= "seething"

>>33641318
Boys are missing their mommies.

Why can't men be good fathers

>>33641307
based

>>33641305
If you were pretty you'd be whoring yourself out in Dubai right now.

All lonely femanons and femcels could just join the military and get all the pipe they want

>>33640528
go back

>>33641288
>It's the difference between this is how it must be vs. this is how you choose it to be.
>Because it imposes arbitrary and unnecessary limitations on people.
what other feminine color are you going to pick?
>It doesn't.
for you. it doesn't for you, i guess (big doubt btw but i'll entertain the idea). it does for me: pink feels feminine to wear, looks feminine on the people around me, and i know for certain if i wear pink people will associate me not only with girls, but also assume reasonably that i voluntarily chose a thing i know signals femininity. you literally CANNOT have a more feminine thing that that, in all ways except your made up constraint that there must be some super authority to decide it unless it becomes official, it satisfies femininity in all respects. so how isn't pink feminine, again? be specific. "it isn't objective and is therefore invalid" isn't an argument against what i'm saying. i am making a wholly idealistic argument: if something causes enough experiences of femininity that it can be described as such, then clearly it is feminine.

>Me personally? I don't. I won't speak for anyone else, but transgenderism doesn't make sense to me.
it's crazy that it doesn't, because it's the arguments you're making that justifies transgenderism to gain a foothold within the zeitgeist to begin with, and all the foul shit that comes along with that. it all started with "gender is just a social construct, male and female are arbitrary labels". you literally cannot believe in the things you believe in and not believe in transgenderism (and also be consistent in your beliefs. which obviously you aren't because very few people that echoe the stuff that you're saying actually lives it, and lately they've been putting holes in catholic children)

>>33641327
I can barely take care of myself. I'm not going to subject a new innocent person to this world and potentially the things I went through or worse.

>>33641313
You are so boring and predictable.

>youre just too American
I'd get my ass out of there if I lived in that third world shithole.
Same with Russia. Even moreso in Russia.

>>33641313
Should we tell her?

>watched a boomer mom sneer behind her adult daughter's back when she says she's sad she doesn't have any kids
I can't even, anymore. How awful.

>>33641324
they have one x and one y chromosome, which makes them slightly more prone to genetic defects since xx has a whole backup to fall on if there's a bug in the code, this makes them slightly more frail and subsceptible to all kinds of things, which leads to a natural tendency to be more clingy to their caregivers since they are more dependent on being looked after 24/7, so being separated from their mother is a bigger issue than for female babies

>>33641308
>But they like. Ask me to pay for them even though I make sure I never owe anyone any money
I know it's hard but you have to learn to say no sometimes I had the same problem (I still kind of do)

>>33641325
this is why we teach them not to cry in front of women

>>33641327
blame the mothers for picking out the bad fathers

>>33641254
What kind of projects?

My friends love of her life is a balding Manlet who is on SSRIs and is addicted to vapes
Anything can happen

>>33641349
Your friend sounds like a wreck

>>33641349
people love how people make them feel, usually it's easier to make someone feel good about getting fucked by you if you're attractive and successful but you can also find sneaky ways to work around that

I don't like fat women but sometimes they make me go feral

>>33641349
woooow ok so I just have to be a massive failure of a man

>>33641310
Keep trying but remember that if this is romantic-related, it's insane to think 1 person can try hard enough to make a relationship occur or work well. 2 people are involved

>>33641352
>plapjack.jpg

atoga is changing and I don't like it

>>33641358
in what ways

>>33641358
how

The fact that women can get pregnant during ovulating blows my mind, that's so insidious. The one time men can easily get sex they can also knock her up

>>33641327
Men are way better fathers than in the past.
It's one of the only statistics that has actually improved in the modern world. Men are far better at everything now, from changing diapers to helping with chores, cooking, emotional support, spending time with the kids.

>>33641350
She’s pretty, smart, educated, talented, big boobs
>>33641351
Yea she said she liked him because he said she sounds empathetic
>>33641353
He’s unemployed and degreeless too
Hes just good at talking

>>33641362
not this shit again

>>33641366
>Yea she said she liked him because he said she sounds empathetic
yup, called it

>>33641360
>>33641361
new posters over the weekend I think. the vibes have changed.

>>33641332
my friend did that and id rather kms no lie

>>33641344
Bingo

>>33641370
gross

>>33641369
Why doesnt a man do that for me

>>33641370
that is a good thing, half of the retards here are very annoying

>>33641370
The vibes are better today. But it's still European hours, wait and see.

>>33641372
Why? The guys are fit

>>33641376
idk, try being more empathetic

>>33641370
>>33641374
Witch hunt when?

anons I'm very sleepy today, if I fall asleep please protect me from those rapey femanons

>>33641380
getting yelled at all day every day, doing grunt work like sweeping dirt, having less than no meaning, not for me

>>33641382
NOW

>>33641383
*reaps you*

>>33641286
I love russian women

sHE beLIEveD

>>33641291
hmm, that's not quite what's going on, this whole argument really just boils down to arguing about the definition of femininity, and whether femininity is idealistic or materialistic. feminists (arbitrarily btw but that doesn't matter now, does it?) decided that it's the latter and not the former. i respectfully disagree.

>>33641318
just remember the generation that went out of their way to unnecessarily mutilate baby boy penis for life almost certainly went out of their way to make the girls miserable too

>>33641216
M
tell her to stop being paranoid or go

>>33641388
control yourself please

>>33641384
It's not all grunt work, only the basic

femoid, can I take you ice skating and snowboarding this winter?

>>33641386
nooooo :(((

>was tired and stressed
>focused on all the negative aspects and traits of this girl I was seeing even though she never wronged me
>no longer as tired and stressed
>starting to remember all the good times and how much she poured her whole heart out for me and genuinely liked me for who I was, good and bad
>feeling incredibly remorseful and begin pondering how I'll ever meet another girl who genuinely loves and accepts me the way she does
Did I make a huge mistake breaking up with her?

>>33641377
>t. one of the new posters

Women, how can you stand to walk out in public?

>>33641336
>what other feminine color are you going to pick?
I have no need for a feminine colour. You say you do, but frankly I don't believe you.
>it does for me: pink feels feminine to wear, looks feminine on the people around me,
That's called subjectivity, not objectivity. That does not make it fulfil an objective roll.
>also assume reasonably that i voluntarily chose a thing i know signals femininity
>reasonably
I disagree. I reject to notion that it is reasonable assumption, and that's why I'm arguing against it.
>isn't an argument against what i'm saying
I'm not even sure what you're trying to say or what you're trying to get me to say. What you're saying has no connection to the post I originally replied to.

Transgenderism to me represents a greater focus on gender identities an social roles. That is the opposite of how I want to view the world. Basically what I'm trying to say is, you can like pink as a man, you don't have to get hormone treatments and surgery to feel that it's ok to like pink. Very simplified.

>>33641393
It won't happen

>>33641400
you can always create your own discord server and invite all your friend and be happy together

>>33641370
idk, i think that's dramatic, i think today has just been boring blogposters and incels while lacking other personalities

>>33641405
>discord
yep, you're definitely the new retard who's been trying to police the thread earlier

>>33641401
concealed carry license