Thread 33829639

>did well at school
>no girls ever attracted to me
>made fun of by women as a loser beta
>went to university
>no girls ever attracted to me
>girls didn't acknowledge my existence
>got part time jobs in summers
>no girls ever attracted to me
>got a full time job
>no women ever attracted to me
>moved to a big city
>no women ever attracted to me
>made online dating profiles
>no matches
>just went outside
>no women ever attracted to me
>regularly gone to gym for over 10 years and have squatted over 4 plate
>no women ever attracted to me
>now in my 30s
>no women ever attracted to me

Ok. Now what?

>>33829639 (OP)
>went to school
>didn't ask out any girls
>went to university
>didn't ask out any girls
>got a job
>didn't ask out any girls
>moved to another city
>didn't ask out any girls
>joined online dating
>didn't ask out any girls
>went to the gym
>didn't ask out any girls
>now in my 30s
>didn't ask out any girls
fuck... if only there was a solution to this problem...

>>33829639 (OP)
Besides never talking to any or asking any out, you also forgot to mention what you did to attract any women or even why they should be.
>but I have...LE JOB
That doesn't matter.

>>33829655
>>33829675
Nta but I’d like advice.
How do you move to ask someone out? I don’t know what’s the cool way to do it nowadays, ask for a coffee?

How do you even begin the conversation?

>>33829655
>>33829675
>Have you tried trying harder
There's the Just-World loonies. Anyway

Asking women out ceased to be viable after about 2015

>>33829776
>Asking women out ceased to be viable after about 2015
and yet everyone else but you was asking women out and going on dates

>>33829836
Not OP but I didn't know you could round 34% up to Everyone

>>33829709
Ideally you begin the conversation by a related interest or something (ex. you recognize their ringtone from a game you play and bring it up) and then end the conversation with asking for their number/ a date. Thats kinda hard to do naturally though without a coincidence like the example so you could always do the old reliable "I just noticed how pretty you are and wanted to ask for your number." This requires being significantly more attractive and charismatic though.

>>33829639 (OP)
Not your fault, you were just born with an unattractive face.

>>33829881
How attractive or charismatic? Is the whole point just to make them feel good and that you’re not a creep?

>>33829639 (OP)
I am a 40y old 3/10 neet chud with no job, no house, no money, no future, nothing. But I won't settle for anything less than a 7/10 with a banging body and pretty face who is half my age.
God owes me a beautiful loving white wife to make up for the cards I've been dealt in this life and for all the suffering I had to endure.

>>33829709
You could always ask for directions from a stranger you think is attractive, good conversation starter. Even if you don’t need the directions. You can also ask them to show you which gets you walking and talking. If she seems disinterested or annoyed in any way, cut your losses say thanks and walk off. Don’t touch her under any circumstances, save that for the date.

Your most powerful tool is walking away

>>33829881
>>33831315
This is some straight up India-tier advice like in Roosh V’s book
I remember reading Game for the first time thinking it was gonna be some revolutionary advice…but fucking no, it’s the most basic ass shit like “take care of your grooming, lift weights, try asking a girl about local coffee shops” NO SHIT NIGGER. And this advice comes off the same way, advice from horny Indians.
>>33829639 (OP)
Don’t listen to the hugbox faggots. Approach IRL is dead unless you’re in a social circle where people know you and a girl can get attached to you. It’s all on the phone these days.
When I was single last year, I tried just cold approaching. I did at least five approaches a week for have a year so at least 100 approaches. I only ever got one date.
Earlier this year I paid $50 for Hinge premium and was going on dates every week. I doubled my body count and even got a new gf for a little while.
Women do not need to hunt for dick anymore. It’s all on The Phone.
Granted my experiences are all from living in coastal US cities, maybe if you live in some irrelevant Slavic shithole or another third world country it’s still possible to benefit from cold approach. But not in the states anymore.

>>33831344
Meh. Never really got anything out of the apps but the cold approach has worked fine for me. Got a gf out of it first time. Maybe you’re just not that interesting/attractive, or are going for girls out of your league. But I’m also a decently handsome white man that goes after black girls, so ymmv. Were you going after girls that were smiling at you and making conversation or just autistically walking up to whoever and blurting out a pickup line? One date in 100 approaches sounds super low.

Also this reads like a dating app ad, you got le hinge premium and doubled your body count? Come on man the girls on those apps don’t even count if they’re that easy. Get some romance in your life.

>>33831394
>Maybe you’re just not that interesting/attractive
I'm interesting enough to be able to become the center of attention after a few minutes in a room with complete strangers. Not that it fucking means anything but I get compared to Elon Musk a lot by my professional colleagues (I'm an aerospace entrepreneur). I have stories about going to exotic locations and performing dangerous feats galore, I just never get the opportunity to talk about them.
>or are going for girls out of your league.
Maybe, but
>But I’m also a decently handsome white man that goes after black girls, so ymmv
Bro's bragging about dumpster diving LMAO
>One date in 100 approaches sounds super low.
Yeah, that's the nature of IRL. Most chicks, don't want to be bugged while going about their day. It's not a meme, you can't be "more confident" to fix it, they just don't want the attention unless you're legit 8+/10. They have enough men to deal with On The Phone.
>Also this reads like a dating app ad, you got le hinge premium and doubled your body count?
You can cope like the other incels but fact is you gotta pay to play. And just underscores my point about how it's all done via the Phone these days.
Don't like pay for play dating apps? Use instagram, that's basically a dating app anyway.

>>33831419
> I'm interesting enough to be able to become the center of attention after a few minutes in a room with complete strangers. Not that it fucking means anything but I get compared to Elon Musk a lot by my professional colleagues (I'm an aerospace entrepreneur).
You have to be trolling. No one is this full of themselves. Girls certainly like it when you suck up all the energy and make everything about yourself. I bet you don’t even realize you’re doing it when you do. You need mystery, and seduction, and to stop being so hateful, girls are wonderful no matter the race, so long as they are good people.

Your coworkers are mocking you. Elon musk is not someone you want to be compared to. They are calling you autistic.

When I envisioned the person behind the post, I immediately imaged a soulless tech bro who takes a robotic approach to life, and it seems I was completely correct. You are not interesting, you cannot “fake it till you make it,” or read “48 laws to power” and become a god, you just end up a paper, hollow man. If that’s what you want, more power to you, but life is not all numbers and “body counts,” you miss the forest for the trees.

Lots of people in this thread have conceited that "asking girls out ended in (insert year)"
You guys really can't see that it's just you huh?
You're so blind to the road every man has taken - man, gets up in the morning and starts working out. Starts eating healthy, starts talking care of his hair and his beard, starts cleaning his mouth and armpits and crotch, starts dressing well with nice shoes, and he starts going to events where people are present
Slowly the confidence builds up. And it builds, and it builds.
And the man truly starts to feel - worth it. He counts what things he does have, and he realizes that he's of value.
And then when you understand your value in this world and what you bring to the dating table in terms of looks and personality, you suddenly start to say, unironically - "hmm! I'm worth it!" And you decide to bestow your worth (that's right, you're doing the other person a good deed) on someone else, by coming up to her and saying - hey, you're really cool, do you want to hang out?

And if you ever felt - like it makes no sense to ask them out, look into yourself and realize that you see zero value in yourself. Or at least you don't see enough value for someone else to want to date you.
And that's a you problem
And it starts being solved at the gym, at social events, at hobby classes.
Conceiting that "dating IRL is dead" on 4chan is the easy route, and it'll get you nothing.

Heed my words and act swiftly
t. Person who's been following this for 7 months now

>>33831559
outdated retard take

no amount of self-improvement will fix genetics

rejection is a reinforcing loop. you need to be validated to get confidence.

for most men it's already over. trying is just a humiliation ritual

etc.

>>33829776
>Asking women out ceased to be viable after about 2015
says who

skill issue
get good or die alone
I'm older and bald, neither a supermodel nor a richfag and I get laid

however I live in one of the good cities in my country (parties / tourists / busy nightlife) and have built a rich social life over the years

>>33831622
You're right that genetics play a role, but nobody's perfect. At the end of the day there's a girl for everyone. And there are girls out there who will be attracted to you due to their personal preferences. But not trying means you won't find them

Also
>rejection is a reinforcing loop.
I've had a lot of soft rejections where the girl is busy or we make tentative plans and she cancels, because IRL girls don't dare to ghost, but I'm still going to my events and I'm always observing, if a girl is really nice to me - I ask her, it's a natural part of life. These rejections don't phase me anymore because all I'm doing is seeking connection with people who were nice to me, it's nothing deeper than that. I don't reflect and stress out for a week + anymore when I want to ask a girl out. I just do it. And it's such a trivial thing for me at this point that I can naturally decide to do it if during conversation with a girl who's nice to me, I realize that I want to see her again and keep in touch.
There's zero humiliation in this, zero. You're letting another person know that you enjoy their company and you ask them if they want to stay in touch and see each other again. It's like being human 101, and the fact that I went my whole life stressing about this and thinking that it's something weird to do is a crime.
It's no longer loaded in expectations for me, no longer sexually charged, no longer shameful to be seen asking a girl out, it's just me, my love for people who are nice to me, my love for life and being outside, and nothing is phasing me no more. And you too can do that if only you want to. Because back in March of this year I was a complete hermit with a bad loaded mindset about asking people out, just like you right now.
And my genetics in case you gonna say I won the lottery - I'm a 5'7 overweight Jew with a hairline that's receding on the sides, and still I have girl friends and I feel like a gf is right around the corner
Good luck man

>>33829639 (OP)
Stop being lame and boring. Fucking fake being interesting. The worst thing you can do is be a blob of nothing. Even a bad first impression is better than no impression.

>>33831622
you're some kind of doomer blackpilled retard and no amount of self-improvement will fix that, true.
it's cool though, more for me and the other anons who are actually trying

>>33831451
I'm not even gonna respond to this cope, seethe and spite except
>Your coworkers are mocking you
I don't have coworkers, I have cofounders. You slave.

>>33831559
TL;DR
No one cares about the fat negresses you're plowing, if I wanted Africoons I'd be swimming in it since I live in an East African immigrant neighborhood. You're eating scraps and bragging about being in a king's banquet. Fuck you, you creature.

>>33829776
>>Have you tried trying harder
It's better than never trying at all like you and OP, one would think.
>Asking women out ceased to be viable after about 2015
Lol, what is schizo stuff like this even based on?
Do you have any idea how many women I asked out (and successfully dated) since 2015? And why is that le magic year? Is this some weird election-tourist related runoff or something?

>>33831670
I live in the Netherlands, we don't have black people here, and I'm not that other guy you were going back and forth with, lots of projecting chud

>>33831344
>unless you’re in a social circle where people know you and a girl can get attached to you
This is what people mean by "go outside" or "touch grass", just like we used to say "get a life" when I was younger. You were meant to read between the lines a little when you were told to ask women out.
No one but the horniest/brownest/most desperate (all the same thing really) takes that as "go around spam-asking out strangers on sight".

>>33831664
lol alright Mr musk, have fun looking your “cofounders” in the eyes tomorrow as they call you that. Seemed to really strike a nerve since it’s the only thing worth acknowledging apparently. You didn’t deny that they were mocking you either, so are they? Do they smile when they say it? Smirk? Be honest.

>>33831685
>And why is that le magic year?
It's probably the year HE stopped trying and his room temp IQ skews him towards making sweeping generalizations about reality because he can't comprehend nuance and other's experiences

>>33831699
You say you're striking a nerve with me but you're the one getting in my face about this. Strange that.

>>33831691
>Netherlands
>No black people
LMAO I've been there and I beg to differ unless you're some boer re-emigre fuck out in the boonies

>>33831670
Kek this
They come here to shit on guys who are struggling because they're miserable fucking their fat gf or the ugly bitch no one wanted in the first place but hey, they can say that they got laid lmao
In reality, only 1% of men get to fuck girls who are +7/10 in 2025 and those guys are genetic Gods; tall, handsome etc

>>33831695
You need friends to make friends

If you weren't setup with several social circles by high school then you were fucked over

Also normies not telling the truth because it makes them look like a bunch of sociopaths who operate on a social value scale (which they are)

Pro-tip
If you find dating in 2025 easy
Or if you find dating in 2025 difficult
After all of humanity has been absolutely skullfucked by Techno-Pharisee algorithmic bullshit which has replaced thinking
THIS might be the problem right here. THIS may very well be the reason you have trouble relating to women, who significantly cluster around mean IQ of 100 much more than men

>>33831737
>In reality, only 1% of men get to fuck girls who are +7/10 in 2025 and those guys are genetic Gods; tall, handsome etc
So in other words, only good looking guys get to fuck good looking girls?
Seethe more, it's not my fault you're ugly/fat/manlet or some unholy combination of all three.

>>33831737
>those guys are genetic Gods; tall, handsome etc
No actually they're not
>>33831745
It's mostly delinquents, niggers, and guys too oblivious and stupid to realize they've become financier-slaves to a piece of mediocre pussy

>>33831722
Well you just seemed so proud of it. Why would you be offended at me somehow “getting up in your face with it” if it’s a label you love? Anyways, you seem to be avoiding my questions for some reason…

>>33831754
>Why are you avoiding rhetorical questions made in bad faith?
You seriously have no insight into my life and it's making me laugh
Here's a question for you: Elon has 8 kids, how many do you have?

>>33831758
My mistake, *fourteen and by four women
Fucking hell man, guys is busy

>>33831752
No, you fucking retard, the problem is that the average girl is still attractive to men while the average man isn't
And you're the only one seething because you're ad homineming every reply instead of enjoying fucking your totally hot gf, lmao
Why are you wasting time here and not enjoying your totally perfect life where you're driving Bugattis and fucking models? That's what you're implying here, fucking moron lol

>>33831642
Imagine being bald and unmarried kek. Unhairy ass nigga approaching women on their night out.

>>33831752
no they're fucking the good looking girls, the above average girls, the average girls, the fat girls, the ugly girls

>>33831741
>If you weren't setup with several social circles by high school then you were fucked over
So why is it then that some people are able to move and change schools, and still make new friends wherever they go? Why did you need to be "set up" and they didn't?
I'll be real with you, this whole "set up" thing is extremely brown-sounding. Do you wish your parents arranged a marriage for you too?

>>33831758
Oh anon, they are smirking, and laughing behind your back too. With friends like these mr musk, who needs enemies?

>>33831779
They can laugh as much as they want, I'm laughing with them to the bank
Now how many kids do you have?

>>33831769
>the problem is that the average girl is still attractive to men while the average man isn't
Then your criteria for "average" for both sexes is off.
>Why are you wasting time here and not enjoying your totally perfect life where you're driving Bugattis and fucking models?
Delicious seethe, but was I asking for advice or giving it? Therein lies the answer to your question.
The random Bugatti mention makes me think you're some Tatefag or in other words BROWN.

>>33831786
Oh so you admit they are mocking you. I feel sorry for you anon, I hope one day you can make some real friends with people who have souls

>>33831777
Let me tell you something anon, as an actual good looking guy I can promise you I don't waste my time fucking fat ugly girls like in your cuck fantasies. I'm not your competition anon so you can stop worrying. The girls YOU could actually get, I wouldn't even let my dog fuck, let alone take a crack at myself.

>>33831804
"Can" is not "do," are you an ESL brown person?
I don't care what they do, because as long as they keep inviting me to speaking engagements, signing checks for me, and connecting me to million-dollar deals, they can say whatever they want
And these are the hands that feed me and feed me well. So you can imagine ho wmuch I care about a random 4chan loser's (that's >You) opinion

>>33831808
larp

also since you're admitting you aren't average and don't have the average experience. all your advice is meaningless

>>33831828
If you really don’t care so much, why do you keep responding, and so fast too? The reason why girls don’t like the real you, you only sound good on paper, literally and figuratively. You truly have nothing to offer since you’re so far up your own ass, you can only imagine others having admiration of you. It’s why you walked back the fact that the elon musk nickname was a compliment, you actually thought it was at first, now you (hopefully) see the truth. Now you resort to the other “good” things in your life but what’s the point when you’re so lonely, and no one actually views you as anything but a robot? I actually hope you can get some real friends and finally see how much more to life there is.

>>33831859
So I'm above average but also a larp. Are you a retard?
That's the thing, I don't think there's anything inherently special about me. There's lots of guys like me. I don't think "not fucking fatties" is a high bar to clear.
That's all the more reason you should take the advice from me and guys like me, precisely to get to our level. Would you rather get tips from other incels?

>>33829639 (OP)
I won't read threads where some absolute retard expects women to magically drop into his lap and when that doesn't happen he wonders what is wrong. No advice is possible because it would be like spoon-feeding something with the IQ of pond slime.

>>33831727
"I've been there"
Just because you visited some touristy locations doesn't mean you know the Netherlands, stupid Amerimutt

>>33831737
honestly dude if you guys are out here really whining about how hard your life is and you can't get girls and keep spamming "oh all these chads come to 4chan to tell us how good they're having it!" when in fact if you read the fucking post I say I'm not a chad I'm just a dude who tries

you guys are beyond help, thank goodness that you stay in your dirty attic, enjoy crouching every time you have to get up your crusty old chair

>>33829655
fpbp
sad but true

OP, you'll have to realize at some point it's YOUR job to make a woman interested in you.

>>33831769
>gooner meltdown
okay coomer

Are you roleplaying as a pathetic loser so we can look at you like you're in a zoo? I don't tip you should know

>>33829776
>don't try bro
>it won't work trust me bro

>>33831419
>I get compared to Elon Musk a lot
"Look, this insufferable, autistic weirdo with his Nazi talking points."