Thread 5055321

I blame the corruption of each country. If we actually educated our children to spot and swat down political lies ans corruption and strived for absolute truth and for everyone to be as educated as possible (instead of barricading educatiom for only the top percent of people) using examples of modern corruption and educated them to fight misinfo this wouldnt be happening. It's the greed of the 1% that has done this. We are so fucked it's ridiculous.

Our species is going to be filtered. Our biology caused this all to unfold. We just werent capable enough.

>>5055321 (OP)
>We are so fucked it's ridiculous. please buy gas and eat beef

Global warming is good though? It'll add a little bit of justice to the unjust world.

damn we’ve been at the tipping point for like 60 years now

>>5055702
This isnt true and you're retarded.

If only we paid even more taxes to jewish billionaires and pedophiles all these problems would go away

>>5056007
We've had the exact same bullshit for 60 years about how we're all gonna die in the next 5 to 10 years. Climate alarmism is older than any user on this site and it will survive us all. Your grandchildren will be bombarded with the exact same lines our grandparents, parents and we ourselves had to endure.

I just don't see the moral obligation. The world has been constantly falling under the influence of man for close to a million years now, virtually nothing is trully "natural" or untouched by human guidance. The only thing which has seemed to have changed recently is social morality in a post industrial paradigm more than the enviromental change itself. People say the degree of change is speeding up, but to me it seems like whatever change is happening we are dealing with it fairly well. Even in a theoretical food chain collapse it would not be instantaneous, it would be a gradual decline and infrastructure would compensate or adapt in tandem. I do believe however we should switch from fossil to nuclear on materialistic grounds. It is criminal how more effective nuclear is as a fuel source and the lack of potentially harmfull waste products it produces, a good number of them even have product use.

>>5056041
Yeah, it has NEVER been at a tipping point though and the alarmism is valid. Every source that says it was before was lying. These things, if they collapse, will cause your planet to become fucking venus basically. Again, you are retarded.

>>5056061
>Every source that says it was before was lying
So why should we trust them now?

Nice ad, fag

>>5055321 (OP)
Doesn't matter man. The leader of the most powerful nation in the world thinks it's a liberal hoax. These "people" like >>5056041 don't care about facts and reality.

>>5056063
Oh my fucking god you absolute retard. Because the CREDIBLE sources are saying so now. Fucking kill yourself.

>>5056071
>Oh my fucking god you absolute retard. Because the CREDIBLE sources are saying so now
And credible sources have said so before. Take your journal ad >>5056066 somewhere else you fucking faggot.

Why are people like this?

>>5056103
Because modern conservatives are an actively regressive and hostile political party. Their whole philosophy is retaining the status quo and "tradition" (what tradition? that changes every time you ask them, oftentimes it never even existed). Sadly the "fuck" part won't happen until boomers are long dead in the ground.

I do admittedly get a kick out of the conspiracy theorists. "Global warming is fake, scientists are conspiring against you because reasons! Trust the oil companies and Saudis instead!"
It's like claiming there's a conspiracy of doctors trying really hard to make you believe smoking is harmful, and we should trust the nice tobacco industry instead.
(The activists opposing nuclear power ia just as retarded, tho')

>>5056103

This but people are like this about everything. When I say our genetics are going to cause our species to be filtered ala the great filter this is one of the things I mean. EVERYONE is like this. The intelligent species that comes from the chimp family is on average malicious and their greed, self-centeredness and laziness will be the end of their species? Nooo....


Hoping that the next intelligent earth dominating species that comes along will be better and not akin to orcas.

>>5056103
Because there will be no oh fuck for us. Just biodiversity. The environment is going to be replaced.

>>5056175
If there is even another one that comes along on this planet.

>>5055321 (OP)
>Earth's tipping points under threat!
>what are these tipping points
>Our normal talking points.
uh huh

>>5056107
>one half of the jewish control system is good and the other half of the jewish control system is bad guys

>>5056181
And yet you only get upset when your side of the Jewish system is attacked. Curious!

>>5056103
we aren’t even at the oops stage, we’ve got time bro relax /s

>>5056182
>>5056183
>2 temperature sensors that may have been improperly placed that is better explained through laziness/incompetence? NO IT PROVES THERE'S A GLOBAL CONSPEERACIE TO PUSH DA CLIMATE CHANGE AGENDUH!
Kek. You're just like Holocaust deniers; ignore the mountains of evidence for something and nitpick and hone in on this one tiny piece of questionable quality. This is proven by the fact that these same images are posted in every climate change thread.

>>5056175
Based. This but actually.

>>5056183
Wow, that's pretty bad.

>Global warming is real
>So let's make sure everyone lives in cities and is dependent on global supply chains and 3rd world labor!

>>5055373
You faggots had your chance to show how you'd manage the environment

>>5056197
>Global Warming is real
>so let's subsidize jeets and africans having 10000 kids per family

>>5056221
it's their right to have kids. why aren't you having 10,000 kids? oh right, first a woman would have to let you get within 3 feet of them lmao

>>5056226
>it's their right to have kids

And it's my right to not give a shit when their population surpasses carrying capacity and a mass dieoff occurs to bring the population back to equilibrium.

Such is the fate of people who mimic the reproductive strategy of vermin.

>>5056277
>Such is the fate of people who mimic the reproductive strategy of vermin.
white people did that up until ~80 years ago

>>5056041
You will live to see the end times, anon. But it won't be a bang and everyone dies.

What do the incels have to say about all the climate change research Exxon did ~50 years ago where they basically confirmed it is indeed happening? Was that part of the Jewish libtard tranny agenda too?

>>5056187
>>5056281
So it started getting hot right when we started measuring? Damn bro thats crazyyyyy

>>5056053
Well put, I agree

The fuck do you expect me or anyone else to do? It'd India and China that are killing the planet. Me using a reusable bag doesn't mean jack shit if everything I do gets canceled out by pajeet and Taylor Swifts jets. And God knows both those things are never going to go away, so why even care?

>>5056365
Absolutely bananas perspective. Why are you on the animal board? Do you have any friends or family?

>>5056365
Exactly my mindset. Why worry? Climate change and its runaway effects are dire and real, but the fuck am I gonna do? Frankly, I'm not even convinced that we as a society even have the technology to turn this ship around a fraction of a percent without managing to invent some marvel geoengineering tech. Until that sci-fi fantasy becomes reality, focus on the welfare of yourself, and the things you care about, because we're strapped firmly into a car running full speed off a cliff, and all we can really do as individuals is savor what we've got.

>>5056103
Why are humans not able to comprehend decade-long changes of global systems? Bro, most people don't know they shouldn't buy weed when they already owe somebody money. We are just too stupid as a species and you cannot them to act correct either because then they'll chimp. Its over.

>>5056466
*coerce them

>>5056466
>Why are humans not able to comprehend decade-long changes of global systems?
We actually are capeble of such things, the problem is the cultural shift that comes from modernisation. For thousands of years familys and clan social structures have opperated beyond the scope of their individual lives and wete able to focus on preparing for their later descendents to better off under the belief that, while they aren't on top now, their great great great grand children will be if they dedicate a large portion of their life to elevate them and not themselves in the now. Throw in the fact you had multigenerational households or homesteads and these families and clans could see some of the fruits of their lifes labor be gifted to their descendents. Even beyond family lines shared communities would conduct multi-generational projects through landscaping or building monuments that they would never see completed, but did so regardless for their children's children.

>>5056480
>to be better off*

>>5056358
Better yet, we found ways to figure the temperatures we had before we started measuring them!

>>5056484
Doesn't look too bad. We have been around for almost 2 million years and survived previous spikes

>>5056053
>humanity isn’t nature
oh sheeit we wuz aliens

>>5056412
We have
>nuclear power
>nuclear weapons
>ICBMs capable of hitting africa, china, and india
Global warming could be short lived indeed

>>5056500
>he thinks nuclear weapons are real

>>5056053
I want to strangle you. To suggest we arent nature or animals is so fucking retarded its absurd.

>>5056493
>>5056504
If we are nature, why should we fucking care about our influence or impact in a changing climate? From that perspective this is just nature taking its course, why should there be some guilt or stronge sense of moral obligation? Again, I don't see the moral imperative around this shit.

From a human = nature argument it's a not something to be overly concerned about as this is nature.

From a human ≠ nature argument it's not something to be overly concerned about because there is no true baseline of non-human interference in the world's eco system to begin with.

>>5056512
You are slightly on the right track here. Let me put it like this. Some species are generally better than others, from intelligent species to the stupidest species around. Some are more empathic and more caring than others, right? Some behave better than others, right?

You are assuming that humans are the default of what an intelligent species of our calibur would look and act like when that ISNT the case. Each species has certain psychology and behaviors, certain click-whurr functions and default behaviors (click-whurr functions meaning automatic behaviors). Are these behaviors enough for eachother and the environment? Clearly not as the mental health in every country is dogshit and we go about destroying the planet for every other species anyways twlling ourselves "the experts got it" as we refuse to look into it more and refuse to research where sendig our funding would benefit the world and eachother the most. Fuck we wont even read past headlines and EVERYONE is politically misinformed due to lack of seeking answers to where the problems lie change things.

Considering ourselves above nature due to our heightened abilities as we do nothing but destroy for the sake of "progress" (destroying everything for temporary pleasures as we destroy eachothers mental health and create ai's wrecklessly that will kill us all 100%) is exactly the fucking problem.

Sure this species is one of the most empathic, but it isnt enough. We care what our cultures tell us to care about and if something is out of sight than it is out of mind and we cease to consider it a problem enough for us to act on it.


Humanity is a doomed and failed species that did nothing but destroy for the 1%'s fat nut.

>>5056521
I fucking GUARUNTEE you other intelligent species wouldnt act this way. How we act is not the default. Some would be better, some would be worse. Ig just be thankful that we werent born into a worse species.

>>5056480
Meanwhile, modern boomer mentality is literally
>lol, who cares if I fuck things up, I'll be dead and won't have to suffer any consequences

>>5056403
that's not an argument

>>5056521
Empathy is not universally good
Destruction is not universally evil

As far as you know, the reason we're not leaving this planet is because every other species is 1000000x more "evil" and the fact that we still believe in a primitive good and evil dichotomy that evolved for tribal cohesion is the reason we have to stay on earth for a bit, otherwise humanity would lash out at the perceived space demons and get its shit pushed in. Every single highly evolved organism that operates at a large scale relative to its individuals is extremely brutal and uncaring. Humanity is the exception, not the rule. We share the universe with hyper-intelligent galaxy-spanning ant colonies that are only not ripping us apart to turn earth into a fueling station for asteroid manners because they think we'll be useful allies when we evolve past empathy (see: china, israel)

>>5056053
>moral obligation
Why do you need one? You're just a spiritless bitch that won't do anything really hard unless you're compelled.
>>5056365
Why wouldn't you use a reusable bag? Is it really such an imposition? You could pick up litter when you see it. Promote the idea of doing something.
>India and China that are killing the planet
That's a gross over simplification.
>so why even care?
Can you help but?

>>5056543
>Why do you need one?
Yeah because otherwise there is no reason to care about climate change. What a fucking shocker.
>You're just a spiritless bitch
Spirit allows us to have the capacity for higher ideals or an abstract sense of morality, yet, there is no moral obligation here to compel my spirit.

>>5056537
I think we can broadly define good and evil as "having the ability to do something but not doing it or activley going against it" (especielly if u only do it when compelled to) and "not knowing bettwr but causing extreme harm to those around you anyways" (think zombies, invasive problematic species and wasps)

Are most other species, with these definitions, evil? No, unless they become problematic to species around them. With these objectivley true definitions it's safe to say that humanity (though really stupid) is an extremely problematic, dangerous, self centered and yes EVIL genus.

Heres another thing. We define species by how they behave, no? So "wasps", "orcas" and "dolphins" judging by how and what their genus would undoubtably be malicious due to how they act generally. We could do the same with our species too.

The universe is practically infinite. Other intelligent species definitley exist as all things are possible, and if the universe is infinite than those rare possibilities will happen. With this in mind, could other intelligent species come around and could they be less or more evil? Without a doubt.

>>5056053
>>5056365
>>5056412
>>5056512
>ugh there's just like NOTHING we can do! we built civilization, erected massive skyscrapers, blew tunnels through mountains, harnessed the destructive power of the atom. we can't possibly change our energy sources, that's just like too le hard! i can't do it!
why are conservatives such defeatist faggots?

>>5056549
More intelligent species than you define evil as primitive means for organizing pre-eusocial sapients

They don't recognize good and evil as concepts for themselves, only cost and benefit. Good and evil mean as much to them as the food consumption order of macaques means to you.

They don't think humanity is evil. They think humanity is stupid for not having evolved out of old traditions and still refusing to do what is necessary and logical to maximize its ability to grow, consume, progress, and dominate like every other species. When they see humans care about the existence of a species that doesn't benefit them at all, they think humans are still engaging in primitive nature worship and have a million years to go.

More intelligent species than you are also allegedly mostly involved with israel and israel-aligned countries. And israel is the origin point of a dogmatic value set that directly contradicts what us monkeys tend towards (animism, cooperation, and nature worship) and guides us towards logical, purely self beneficial insectoid behavior using mind tricks that seem to have been designed with pre-existing knowledge of human psychology.

Only two types of creature go to war regularly
Humans and ants

Natural selection applying to memes, convergent evolution, extraterrestrials uplifting man, or all 3?

>>5056490
The problem is that our current increase in co2 concentration happened in 200 years, while previously it would take thousands. Nature cannot adapt this quickly.

>>5056550
>he thinks acepting change is defeat and you're conservatard for not falling for moral panics
lol

>>5056550
Because the whole point is to be regressive and stagnant and seeing it as virtuous just because.

>>5056550
>you're a conservative because you think we're already past the point of no return
We've done enough irreversible damage that it'd continue even if we all switched to renewables today. All of the things you mentioned are child's play compared to geoengineering the planet to lower CO2 on an industrial scale.

>>5056552

>Source: i talk to the aylmaos

Sorry I had a life I had to get back to unlike you clearly. Are you a freemason? Aside from the fact that there is no goal to this world, here's some brain teasers.

If aliens are indeed self centered in an insectoid manner, why wouldnt they seek the irradication of all lower species as potential threats to themselves?

Those who control the environment control what the universe is since the universe is the environment. Empathy is a construct of minimizing harm of your own and other species as the universe is a cruel place. The end goal would be to control the entire universe, if there even was a goal, and modify it to whatever the dominant species will would be.

Biology can only be better or worse. Other species are beings that just need hardware updates. Traits like intelligence, ability to perceive ANYTHING including things like pleasure, empathy etc are unfortunatley locked to the current versions of what said beings are capable of experiencing.

Think of agi and how it could just easily replicate itself with next to zero cost. If an intelligent species gets smart enough to be able to replicate and mass produce itself with no cost ala agi, wouldnt it sacrifice that negative percent to also assist other species and to make the universe as feelgoody of a place as possible? What is the point of existence and the universe if not to make it as pleasurable as possible?

A species that intelligent would find a way to automate the bettering of the universe and would prioritize modifying their own and other species biology to make not only themselves but the universe as effecient and as great as possible just like them since it would cost virtually nothing and would make all other species just one ultimate universal species with divine propreties.

>>5056837
Divine propreties meaning the latest hardware updates.

>>5056625
You cannot just magically sequester all this co2, it's not feasibly without magical fusion appearing.
But the powers that be will try geoengineering, you can be sure of it.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/experiments-dim-sun-green-light-191707344.html

>>5056103
Why do climate cucks harrass the people who give halfway of a shit and never the chinks and jeets that ignore every single regulation and release mercury and greenhouse gases into the environment by the billions?

>>5057163
Because its easier, more convenient, and won't cause them to have to risk anything or leave their comfortable lives and iphones

>>5056837
>Biology can only be better or worse. Other species are beings that just need hardware updates. Traits like intelligence, ability to perceive ANYTHING including things like pleasure, empathy etc are unfortunatley locked to the current versions of what said beings are capable of experiencing.
Imagine being so much of a conceited reddit NPC that you can't imagine that another creature that you share 90% of DNA with could feel pleasure or empathy

>>5057171
What are you even trying to say? I stated in that post that others can indeed, just not to our maximum which is the highest maximum we know of. Gtf outta here jew

>>5057174
>just not to our maximum which is the highest maximum we know of
You can't possibly know that

>bro humanity is so ebul because they dont care about there being less diverse birds
No. I just like cats. You’re evil for prioritizing stupid shit like birds over cool shit like cats.

>>5057175
The highest maximum WE KNOW of. Retard.

>>5057187
The irony of a being with low empathy believing himself to be one with highest empathy. Like a blind person believing that light is a conspiracy.

>>5057188
I'm talking about humanity as a whole dumb fuck. Obviously we are the most empathic creatures on the planet as we have the most complex empathic circuitry. Keep coping and seething about your loss here though.

>>5055321 (OP)
>swat down political lies ans corruption and strived for absolute truth
The truth is not within the children of the devil. No matter how many times you persuade them wicked people will love their ways. This isn't a bipartisan statement between contemporary political dichotomies but a commentary on the state of mankind as a whole

>>5057163
Why do shooters who claim to have problems with governance and the state of the world always go and shoot up common people who have nothing to do with their issues?

>>5057179
Cats will never go extinct because of human handouts, birds however are much more vulnerable and need help.

>>5057163
Imagine trying to argue with low IQ subhumans about anything.
Jeets are "so in tune with nature" that they behave like animals themselves and treat every object they see as natural.
Chinks are absolute psycopath's who don't even care about their children, you aren't going to convince them to care about the well being of a lesser being like an animal

>>5057221
Nah it's simpler. It's always "You rich white guy wants to stop developing nations from getting ahead".
Which is on some level true, but also it means nothing ever will be done and we are doomed for.

>>5056039
Sir yes sir

>>5057221
Sounds just like our own conservatives to a degree.

>>5057222
>It's always "You rich white guy wants to stop developing nations from getting ahead".
No thirdy except those who are indoctrinated by post-modernist marxist universities will ever say that

>>5057218
Op here. You might be right... I hate you for it. Like I said in the final bit, this may just be our species being filtered due to our genetics... I'm praying this isnt the case, I like to imagine humanity as a somewhat sane intelligent species but with what we are doing to our own, other species, climate change and wreckless ai development idk if thats the case anymore. I love you guys to death but holy FUCK man we are so screwed

>>5057256
-grug when forest never grow in best hunting spot, only berry plant
-sniffing wolf when war chief say burnem down forest for more buffalo
-john mark taylor davis when the equatorial climate becomes a natural barrier and 50% of humanity dies while populists say the collapsing economy is temporary
-zohara-eli bar yozef mcnlavitch III (augment grade 9) when the last bee population is replaced with pollinator drones

Why the fuck are there wingcuck ideologue faggots on /an/ of all places? Get the fuck back to /pol/ you retarded schizophrenic boomer faggots.
Janny, do your job and sweep this shit you worthless bum.

>>5057264
Containment failed, they run this site now.

>>5057264
Shhh it's on topic

>>5057278
This

>>5055321 (OP)
nothing matters because in a few million years the sun will engulf and melt down the earth

>>5057336
>I'm sorry