>>935711317 (OP)
WHY WOULDN'T WE DEFEND ISRAEL? WE HAVE ALWAYS DEFENDED ISRAEL? WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON? IS IT BECAUSE JEWS LIVE THERE? I DONT GIVE A FUCK. ITS THE HOLY LAND ISNT IT? IF YOU DONT BELIEVE THEN STFU?

>>935711317 (OP)
I’m shocked!
Totally unrelated, but Israeli‑American billionaires like Miriam Adelson, Isaac Perlmutter, Paul Singer, Jeff Yass, and Steve Witkoff just happened to donate over $300 million to Trump’s super PACs in 2024.

Makes perfect sense why he’d defend the hand that feeds.

>>935711317 (OP)
>trump is weak
Never would've guessed.

>>935711317 (OP)
G-d bless President Trump and Netanyahu

>>935711363
It was taken from Palestinians, though — you know that, right?
The land was given to Jewish settlers after WWII.
The people already living there were either forced out, displaced, or killed.
Calling it “holy” doesn’t erase what happened.

Guess we’re going to war with Iran now.
Glad I’m over 30.
This is what happens when money runs politics.

>>935711523
Palestinians were created by Yasser Arafat to create the PLO in 1967

>>935711523
I didn't know that. I will admit I am extremely ignorant about the history of everything about politics and wars because it seems........... irresponsible to just take anyone's word for it, when so much of important history has been altered to fit agendas. So I haven't done any of my own research because it would take a life time, I feel like.
But let me ask you this, this goes to everyone on 4chan if they wish to answer, if Israel WASN'T taken from them and inhabited by the Jews, as you put it, then would 4chan and everyone be on Israel's side?
Another question. Is what happened, as you said, why people hate ISRAEL THE COUNTRY? OR THE PEOPLE INSIDE IT? AKA THE INHABITORS.

Literally a communist puppet

>>935711620
That’s not true at all. The British, Ottomans, and even early Zionists referred to “Palestinians” decades before the PLO existed.

In fact, there are Christian Bibles from the 1830s that label the Holy Land as Palestine.

>>935711620
you can see at the top of teh map provided its dated as 1830

Why are you defending Palestinians when Islam is the biggest threat to the West?

>>935711576
>This is what happens when the people giving money have an endless supply because they formed a Central Banking Cartel over 100 years ago.

>>935711734
>>935711717
Nope
It's AI generated

>>935711637
Honestly, I give you props for admitting that, more people should have the balls to say it.

But to answer:
No, people wouldn’t “be on Israel’s side” even if it wasn’t taken by force. The issue isn’t just how it was created it’s what it’s done since. Decades of occupation, displacement, and human rights violations.

That’s why people criticize Israel the state, not Jews as a people.
Yeah, some react with tribalism, “an attack on Israel is an attack on me as a Jew” but many understand the difference.

The anger isn’t at random civilians or religious Jews. It’s at the government and its policies: bombing Gaza, illegal settlements, apartheid laws, and systemic abuse.

It’s not about religion or race. It’s about power, land, and corruption.

>>935711317 (OP)
Nuke isralel and paleswine already
GGNYA

>>935711317 (OP)
Israel is a wholesome country that deserves US protection, they do charities around the world, are secular in a sea of terrorism, and every Christmas, they deliver gifts for kids around the world.

>>935711741
>Islam is the biggest threat to the West
keep on truckin' solly

>>935711862
Have fun living under Sharia law!

>>935711754
I could show you more, but once someone’s ego is tied to being right, facts don’t matter.

>>935711819
It sounds to me like the problem is the people controlling Israel. Idk if it's the States or the "President" of Israel, but it sounds to me like an easy to solve problem.
>Go in
>And take out the bad leaders
>Osama Bin Laden all over again
Pardon my ignorance but is this viable at all? Even as ignorant as I am, I can't believe that isn't a viable option, if it came down to it.

>>935711922
Yeah it's you

>>935711317 (OP)
good. israel is a close ally of the free world. fuck you

>>935711943
It would be nice if it were that simple, but Israel isn’t run by a single person. It’s a democratically elected government, backed by massive military and financial support, especially from the U.S.

This isn’t like Bin Laden where everyone agreed he was a terrorist leader hiding out. Israel’s actions are state policy, backed by laws, elections, and decades of alliances.

So yeah, “go in and take out the bad leaders” might sound good, but in reality you’d be declaring war on a nuclear-armed country with U.S. protection. It’s a geopolitical nightmare.

Still, your instinct isn’t wrong, the leadership is the problem. But it’s been decades of leadership like this, not just one person.

>>935712055
But if the US did it? What would they do? Since the US is basically the only reasons Israel still has buildings around? Correct?
Again pardon my ignorance.

>>935712083
Or are you saying, the United States is behind what Israel has been doing all this time? Or what? Because I don't think it's fair for the US to take blame if we just took over, after they did all this stupid shit? Sorry for sounding so STUPID BUT I AM.

>>935711981
Define close ally…
Israel provides nothing of value but makes a perpetual enemy of half the worlds population. Its only remaining “ally” after this genocide is the US, and Israel is a leech sucking off billions of dollars of socialized aid from our taxpayers every year, and as for the thanks we get, your fucking country has devised operation Samson, pointing nukes at our cities in case we fail to fight your endless wars against all your neighbors for you. Some fucking ‘ally’. Get fucked Israel, bomb Iran so Iran and Russia burn your genocidal asses down to the sand. And take Iran with you. You are all shit. Love, a fellow Jew. Yes really.

>>935711980
You're the one calling museum images "AI" and still believing that lie about Palestinians being invented in 1967 by the PLO.

That bullshit started with Golda Meir, the Prime Minister of Israel in 1969 who oversaw policies that displaced thousands more. In an interview with The Sunday Times on June 15, 1969, she said:

“There was no such thing as Palestinians.”

It was a deliberate move to erase Palestinian identity and justify their upcoming land grabs. If you convince the world that Palestinians never existed, then Israel doesn’t look like a colonizer — it looks like a “returning people.”

Zionist politicians and pro-Israel groups kept pushing that narrative for decades. It was propaganda, not history. And you're still repeating it like it's fact.

But hey if you’ve got actual evidence that Palestine didn’t exist before 1830, unlike the Bibles and maps I’ve already shown, by all means... enlighten us.

>>935711896
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b4/Sting.ogg

>>935712083
You're not wrong. The U.S. is the reason Israel still functions on this scale especially militarily.

We could absolutely cut funding. We helped fund their Iron Dome, which is their missile defense system that intercepts rockets before they hit cities like Tel Aviv and Jerusalem.

The U.S. gives over $3.8 billion a year in military aid to Israel, and over $2.6 billion has gone directly to the Iron Dome since 2011.

Without U.S. money, a lot of that military infrastructure - including the shield protecting their major cities - wouldn’t exist.

So yeah, if the U.S. pulled out, it would unravel.

But that’s exactly why Israel invests so heavily in lobbyists and American politicians. They know where their lifeline is.

>>935712290
Palestine is not and has never been a country. 'Palestinian' is not a nationality.

>>935712399
Shhiiieeeet. So what should we do then? If it were up to you specifically? Because you've been nice to me. I give you the power to solve this crisis.

>>935711317 (OP)
Fuck Israel. Rebuild the Temple of Solomon.

REMINDER THAT ISRAEL NO LONGER REPRESENTS JEWISH PEOPLE

>>935712437
Man, I appreciate you. Honestly, this has been a more honest and grounded conversation than anything coming out of Washington.

And If it were up to me? First thing cut that $3.8 billion subscription. No more free weapons and defense systems with no accountability.

Make every dollar conditional. Human rights, international law, actual diplomacy, or no deal.

And we seriously need to stop treating any criticism of Israel as antisemitism. That shuts down real discussion and lets a government hide behind a religion.

It’s not a perfect fix, but it’s a start and way better than doing nothing while people keep dying.

Doesn't Iran have the right to obliterate Tel Aviv in defence of their citizens? I mean, according to Israel, bombing civilians is ok if you "feel threatened" or someone says mean things about you.

>>935711896
oh,you

>>935712424
That’s just repeating propaganda, and history doesn’t back it, anon.

Palestine was absolutely a recognized geographic and political region under the Ottomans, the British Mandate, and even earlier.

The term “Palestinian” was used long before 1948 by the British, by Zionists, and even by Jewish newspapers, to describe the people living there, Arab and Jewish alike.

Nationality isn’t defined only by having a state. You don’t erase a people just because they don’t have a flag at the UN.

There are other examples of this too: Tibet, Kurdistan, Western Sahara, and even Kosovo until recently. Palestinians are no different.

>>935712563
>First thing cut that $3.8 billion subscription. No more free weapons and defense systems with no accountability.
Wouldn't they react horribly? Like I feel like that would cause a physical irrational response from them. There's no way they let that happen. Even though, it definitely shouldn't be up to them.
Let me ask you this, since I have your attention. How bad is what's going on TRULY? In your eyes? Because right now, obviously everyone's focused on this, but would fixing this, somehow, solve everything? Or cause more problems?
I want to know the ULTIMATE, SERIOUS, NO BULL SHIT, SOLUTION, TO EVERYTHING GOING WRONG IN THE WORLD WHICH APPARENTLY HAS TO DO WITH ISRAEL, IRAN AND RUSSIA AND JUST, COUNTRIES!!!!! LOL.

>>935711741
>Islam is the biggest threat to the West
This hasn't been true for over four hundred years.

is this really a surprise? America hasnt been free since the 1930s

>>935711317 (OP)
the enemy of my enemy is my frienemey. so what?

>>935712666
devils trips. dont believe

i don't get why everybody is so keen on defending israel tbh
even Muslim countries aren't supporting Palestine, or Iran

>>935711317 (OP)
MIGA!!!

>>935711317 (OP)
Trump promised to rape Iran to death. Now he's raping Iran to death and russ-posters are pretending he didn't campaign on that platform

>>935712723
You've never worked a 70 hour week in your life

>>935711981
>ally of the free world
>regularly commits genocide against civilians who are not jews
Really? I have no beef with the jews, but the Israeli leadership has time and time again proven to be corrupt as fuck, and spends US tax dollars to kill innocent people.
Civilian targets are a violation of the Geneva Convention. They violate this every day.

>>935712625
>seriously deviates from appropriate behavioral norms and values
So they only encourage the rape non-Israeli children? Or what's the deal? A few months ago their politicians were literally telling people to go rape en masse.