So let me get this right. Israel attacked Iran to destroy their nuclear weapons making capability, knowing that they didn't have the ordinance to actually destroy it, and now the US has to help them?

The US doesn't HAVE to do jack shit, but we all know Donald is Bibi's go-to goy.

>>935933616
but why? Do they really have the goods on him?

>>935933855
No, just Trump's weird obsessions, just like everything else he does.

>>935933616
U.S has been cucked by Jews since the civil war. Trump is following his master's orders just like every burger who's mutilated their babies genitals.

>>935933189 (OP)
Trying to reason with people on this board is just shouting into the wind, but here's the short story.

>Iran hates the US and Israel. Calls the US "Big Satan" and Israel "Little Satan."

>Iran publicly calls for the destruction of the USA

>Iran is the largest state-sponsor of terrorism across the globe

>Iran tries to assassinate Donald Trump

>Iran launches drone strikes on Israel

>Iran has 4 decades of fighting proxy wars with Israel

>USA actively fights against Iran's nuclear program for years

Fast forward to October 7th.

>Largest spilling of Jewish blood since the holocaust

>Isreal is fucking pissed and isn't being nice / pushed around anymore

>Hit back really hard

>Iran fucks around and sends drone strike to Israel

>Israel blows drones out of the sky

>Iran is like "Wait that's not now the game works!! We were just doing a show of force!"

>Israel doesn't care because they're fucking pissed off

>Iran starts enriching uranium

>Israel says "fuck no" and Operation Rising Lion happens (killing scientists, nuclear facilities, and top military brass).

>Trump supports Israel because it makes sense for American to let goat fuckers in the middle east fight with Israel rather than come over here and start shite with us.

4chan retards, on queue:

>HOLOHOAX LOL
>Jewish hands typed this11!!11!
>Happymerchant.jpg
>Insert Conspiracy Theory here

The world isn't controlled by Jews. Israel is surrounded by Muslims who do honor killings, female circumcisions, and legally marry literal 8 year old children.You need to be involved so these religious extremist assholes don't go nuclear, and our best bet is to use Israel as our spearhead.

You're not going to negotiate with Hamas or other terrorist organizations that take hostages and machine gun apartment complexes.

Again, 4chan is retarded/ all bots so this will go nowhere. But as far as solutions to inform US foreign policy, posting happy merchant memes isn't going to cut it.

>>935935396
>>Iran hates the US and Israel.
It couldn't have anything to do with them trying to overthrow the Iranian government to put their puppets in, could it? It couldn't have anything to do with Israel striking Iran and then hiding behind the US to protect it, could it?
>>Iran is the largest state-sponsor of terrorism across the globe
according to whom?
>Iran starts enriching uranium
since 1995, right?
>Operation Rising Lion happens (killing scientists, nuclear facilities, and top military brass).
This is my point anon. Israel started this knowing they couldn't take out the facilities and is now playing a victim to get the US, who could take out the facilities to do this for them.

>>935935529
>It couldn't have anything to do with them trying to overthrow the Iranian government to put their puppets in, could it? It couldn't have anything to do with Israel striking Iran and then hiding behind the US to protect it, could it?

Don't be stupid. Iran (like most of Islam) was spread by violence in the first place. They're a Muslim theocracy Even so, Iran and the USA had very close relations until the Iranian Revolution in 1979. They replaced a constituitional monarchy with an Islamic theocracy led by a senior cleric with unquestionable powers over all branches of government, military, and media.

>according to whom?

International law. Sorry, but beheadings, suicide bombings, shooting rockets at embassies, attacking Jewish centers, and murdering protesters are terrorist activities. None of those are military targets.

>Israel is now playing a victim to get the US,

I know this is 4chan but don't be stupid dude. If Israel wanted to wipe out Palestine or Iran they just would. Israel played by the rules for years. Goatfucking Muslims didn't. Now israel is pissed and probably isn't going to to it anymore so Muslim dirt countries are trying to cry about it and nobody who is at all informed cares.

>>935935396
Why do we have to protect the Jews?
What makes them so special?

>>935935981
>Even so, Iran and the USA had very close relations until the Iranian Revolution in 1979
Yeah, because they had their puppet in there.
>They replaced a constituitional monarchy with an Islamic theocracy
Let me guess, we need to be "spreading the seeds of democracy", again?
>International law.
That's not a who(m).
>Israel played by the rules for years.
Not according to international law

>>935936091
>until the Iranian Revolution in 1979; Yeah, because they had their puppet in there.
can you go back, seems building codes were better.

>>935936232
>you
did you mean they?

>>935935981
>Trump will try to send Kush to Tel Aviv to negotiate a peace deal. Kush will tell Trump to go F*** himself. Ivanka will dump Kush, and Kush will release the Epstein report. Tiffany will pose for Penthouse. Melania will do Bang Bus.
This is verifiable.

>>935936072
>>935936091

Like i said, this is pointless. Most of this is already asked and answered but I'll do this one more time.

>>935936072
Nobody cares that they're Jewish. We care that they're the only democracy in the middle east that doesn't hate america.

>>935936091
>Yeah, because they had their puppet in there.
No, because Iranians are fundamentalist Muslims who want to be ruled under supreme authority religious clerics that control everything (including their media).

Also, The CIA and MI16 didn't just fucking walk into Iran and destabilize it. You guys were already having a destabilized fucked up government with guerrillas doing bombing campaigns already. These organizations exerted influence in a way that was profitable because your government failed. All governments do this, not just the USA and the English.

>Let me guess, we need to be "spreading the seeds of democracy", again?

No, again, nobody cares about that. What we care about is making sure your theocratic crazy unreasonable government doesn't have nuclear weapons because you can't keep your shit together responsibly.

>That's not a who(m).
Okay autismo. Reread my answer to your stupid question and realize that attacking non-military targets like embassies and places of worship is terrorism.

>>935936254
We can only hope.

>>935936322
>No
Yes, up until the revolution, the US/UK/IL were heavily involved in keeping their puppet in power. The Iranian clergy and people got tired of it and overthrew that bullshit.
>You guys were already having a destabilized fucked up government with guerrillas doing bombing campaigns already.
If you're talking Iran, most of those campaigns came around after the shah and prime ministers cracked down on opposition parties on behalf of their masters.
>All governments do this, not just the USA and the English
I mean yes to an extent and no. I'm tired of all this interventionism. We supported Osama in Afghanistan, for "freedom". Look where that got us. We supported Sadam trying to overthrow the Iranian government, for "freedom". Look where that got us.
>No, again, nobody cares about that.
Well then why do you keep trying to mention that they're not a democracy?
> Reread my answer
Okay, maybe you should re-read the question and see how that is not an actual response.

>>935933189 (OP)
Listen fuckheads, screw Iran. I have a line which if crossed by any nation I don't consider that nation to have a legitimate government. First line is freedom of thought. I have a right to my own opinions no matter what they are. If they are bad, as long as I don't commit a crime to encourage others to do so they are none of the governments god damn business.
That goes for any government. Religious freedom is an extention of freedom of thought. It's none of your god damn business what my opinion is on what happens to my consciousness after death. So that disqualifies all communist and Islamic nations right there.
Iran takes it a step further with horrific punishments for such differences. The way they treat women alone is an atrocity. Cover your face at all times? Walk ten steps behind your husband? You are your husbands "property"? Stoning females to death if they cheat?

How about we stone them to death and see how they like it?

They pay terrorist groups to go kill people. Mostly Jews. But I don't see the left calling them Nazi's. Why? Where are your protests against them assholes?

Now I've got some issues with Israel too, don't get me wrong, but it's about time the nut job religious fanatic murderers who run Iran with an iron fist fell from the power they have to right to hold in the first place.

They ain't really working on nukes? Who cares? they did drone strikes on Israel a month ago, so how does that mean Israel started it?
Uuuuunt.. I don know.... reatredsd. Fuck Iran. We should lend our bomber to Israel and sell them the bomb they need to take out that one facility so we weren't the ones doing it. But by all means support Israel in this. Whatever you think of what they did in Gaza, Iran is a different story.
Free Iran! Living under the iron boot of assholes since 1979. It's about time.

>>935937904
>they did drone strikes on Israel a month ago
As a response to Israel's strike on it's consulate.

>>935937995
its **

>>935937995
Regardless, they've been funding Hezbollah and other groups who attack Israel for years.

>>935938063
And Israel hasn't been funding groups to attack Iran?

>>935938084
They don't need to they have Mossad. No religious fascist state has my support. I stand with the people of Iran who are being oppressed by the nut jobs in power there. They've had enough. It's time for the Mullahs and religious fanatic psychopaths to be swept out of power by any means. They have no legitimate authority over those people.
FREE IRAN

>>935938201
>No religious fascist state has my support
You may want to rethink that assertion

>>935937904
fuck em both, not my battle.
no new wars.

>>935938414
Why would I want to re-think that? In the United States where I live, you have the right to believe anything regarding any supposed afterlife. If think there is none, you have that right. If you agree with Krishna, Buddah, Christ, or Moses, or any other religion- you have that right. If you perscribe to new ideas like the "Mother goddess" or some quntum immortality thing., You have that right. It's not the government's place to dictate that to you or to anyone.

>>935938689
Why is your government selling arms to saudi arabia?

>>935938728
Changing the topic does not make you the winner of the previous topic.

Saudi Arabia is a consortium of a handful of families. One of those was involved in 911, which pisses me off. For political reasons we have kept that under the rug, however rumor has it that the one responsible dies in a freak helicopter crash a few years ago, so justice may have been served but kept on the down low.

By comparison, they are not anywhere near the threat that Iran is. Not even in the same ballpark.

>>935938845
Supplying Arms to Saudi Arabia is supporting a religious monarchy.

>>935938845
By the way, the crash was in the News, so we know who he was.

>>935936565
Argument is: Anti-White. Nothing more.

>>935938895
True and I hate that, but they are not funding terrorism, with the single exception I mentioned which is in the past.

>>935938925
>but they are not funding terrorism
ISIL would like a word

>>935938845
yeahhh about that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOZToel_368

>>935938201
>They don't need to they have Mossad.
What are the "Popular Forces" and why do they have ties to the "Islamic State"?

>>935933855
yes

>>935938987
ISIS was being funded by the left wing intel agencies of the western powers to do their dirty work without it looking like it was them. Trump attacked them in his first term which pissed off the people funding them. It is my view that everyone funding them needs to go to prison no matter where they are in the world or what intel op they are using them for. I am 100% against using terrorist organizations as a proxy army.
If that means half the US politicians and intel higher ups have to go to jail then so be it. So you'll get no complaint from me on that issue friend. But that doesn't mean it's okay for Iran to do it. Quite the opposite.

>>935939227
>ISIS was being funded by the left wing intel agencies of the western powers to do their dirty work
that's an odd way to spell Israel and Saudi Arabia, who are very well known for their fair leftist governments.

>>935939198
Classic Trump gambit. Being "in the files" means nothing. Epstein tried to get as many powerful people under his control as he could. Everyone knew him. He'd often lend his jet to people who needed to get somewhere but their jet was tied up with the wife or something. So yeah, Donald is "in the files". Elon did this to get the left wing rabid anti Trumpers to feverously dig through the files when they come out looking for dirt on Trump. What they'll find is all of their "heroes" doing stuff they shouldn't have.
why was this necessary? Because the MSM will not report on those findings when the files come out. Hell, they probably won;t even tell their audience that the files came out at all.

Also this is off topic. Changing the topic does not mean you won the argument on the previous topic.

>>935939256
I was talking about the Untied States fool.

>>935939444
You were talking about the Saudis not funding terrorism, and they are, for proxy fighting purposes.

>>935939466
Well fuck them too then. How does that get Iran off the hook? It DOESN'T.

>>935939589
I mean it doesn't get them off the hook, but I don't think Israel should get to do the same shit they accuse Iran of, and try to play the victim. Any excuse for attacking Iran, could easily be used against either Israel or Saudi Arabia. I seem to remember a time where we absolutely in no way could let North Korea get a nuke, or it would be over for America, and yet here we still are, with the norks having a nuke.

>>935939694
We may regret that in the near future when Tokyo goes bye bye.

In any case, Iran pays groups to do terror attacks on Israel. When Israel hits Iran they do with their military out in the open. When terror attacks happen against Israel, they are done against civilians unannounced. When Israel hits Iran they hit military targets and Iran knows ahead of time it's coming so they can clear their civilians out of the way.

In any case, I will not miss the religious fanatics who oppress their people in Iran. Not for one minute.

>>935939846
>In any case, Iran pays groups to do terror attacks on Israel.
the reverse is true
>When Israel hits Iran they do with their military out in the open
huh? you mean in stealth aircraft?
>warnings
Yeah at 3 in the morning? After they struck communication networks?
I won't miss religious fanatics that shill for Israel because "they're god's chosen people". If they want to die for Israel, they should go there.

>>935933189 (OP)
They don't like it when you point it out

>>935940067

>>935939846
Fuck you, fuck the muzzies, and fuck the kikes.

>>935933189 (OP)
No.

>>935940139
What do I have wrong?

>>935940067
he should have been removed from his post for this. He sounds like a Neo Nazi right wing extremist.

>>935940089
I don't know what a "mussie" is, but you sound like an antisemite.

>>935939988
Ok but Iran does fund terrorist attacks on Israel. Whatever Israel does it is also true that Iran does do that. If a state funded a terrorist attack on the US and we knew it, would we not respond? Of course we would.

The aircraft is trying not to get shot down during the mission. But they announce beforehand that the strike is coming. It's always in the god damn news. They don't hide it.

Communications networks. These are used by the military. They don't hit apartment buildings like Iranian sponsored terrorist groups do UNLESS there's a terrorist/military facility underneath it to try to prevent a strike out of fear of hitting civilians.

>>935933616
I want to be a good-goy too.

>>935940501
>But they announce beforehand that the strike is coming
Not always, and also like I said, late at night, after taking out any way of the people finding out.
>They don't hit apartment buildings
They literally did, and then claimed "oh well it was a high ranking general in one of those 15 blown up apartments. While Iran shoots at interceptor launchers that are hidden in Tel Aviv, and somehow that's just targeting civilian centers.

>>935940607
So if I knew I was a major target of an enemy during a war, would I go hang out around a bunch of civilians? If I was a pilot and my plane was crashing, would I ram it into a playground? Or try to steer it into a field? That General was a piece of shit for putting those civilians in danger and getting them killed. He will not be missed.

Late night strikes are strategic. Not a big deal. If they were against military targets it means nothing as per our conversation.

>>935940749
>during a war, would I go hang out around a bunch of civilians?
This was the first strikes Israel did.
> If they were against military targets it means nothing as per our conversation.
Okay, so then why is Israel trying to block any footage of rockets coming down near launchers, and trying to claim there was no military targets in the area, only civilian targets?

>>935940842
First as in when? First before the drone attacks on Israel a month ago? Oh, so you think the war just started.
They been fighting for years.

I don't know, maybe don't put your rocket launchers next to civilian areas next time.

>>935940947
>First as in when?
As in there wasn't much going on.
> First before the drone attacks on Israel a month ago?
No, I mean even after that flare up that started after Israel bombed the Iranian consulate.

>>935940996
So a lull in battle means the war is over? I don't think so. If you're a target, stay away from civilians.

>>935941112
Is that why bibi fled to greece?

>>935941112
The most moral country in the middle east btw

>>935940947
>I don't know, maybe don't put your rocket launchers next to civilian areas next time.
It's a stupid thing anyways, because they're trying to say Iran is launching missiles into the country indiscriminately, but then also say that filming it will help Iran aim better.

>>935941304
Good idea. It only takes one Palestinian with a bomb shoved up his ass to kill everyone in the shelter.

>>935941570
Iran is launching indiscriminately.

>>935941749
If they're launching indiscriminately, how would footage help them "aim" better? Also, why did bibi flee to europe?

>>935933189 (OP)
Have you no shame sir?

>>935941777
Simple. They fire indiscriminately due to lack of targeting intel. Feature in the footage give them greater info on where things are. This isn't rocket science - er I guess it is in a way.

>>935941917
No, all along they were claiming that Iran was firing indiscriminately, with and without the footage of strikes being shown. Now why did bibi flee to europe?

Jews know better than anyone that genocide is a horrible thing. Yet Netanyahu is trying to bomb Gaza out of existence, and now he is working on Iran as well. That mother fucker has to go.

>>935941959
He probably has a meeting with someone. yes greater intel on the ground does assist in targeting. What aren't you getting about this? You fire indiscriminately because of a lack of intel about where things are. More intel on that means you can find valuable targets better.

>>935942057
>What aren't you getting about this?
okay, I'm done trying to argue that with you, let's just say you're correct, so then Israel blocking info from going out is leading to more indiscriminate targeting?

>>935941971
Hamas has to go and so does Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, and the Iranian religious fanatics who run Iran with an iron fist. Fuck the caliphate you god damn murderers.

>>935942115
Yes. Shooting blind instead of taking out missile launchers, planes, ships, radar stations and so on. Better they fire blind than blind Israel.
The reality of war.

>>935942182
So in essence, the civilians being killed before military targets in the end game for Israel?

>>935942205
if a cop is trying to defend you from someone who is shooting at you. Do you want him to have a gun to shoot at the guy who is shooting at you or not? So if the killer is able to destroy the cops gun then how is he going to protect you? This I gotta hear genius.

>>935942294
>I'd rather cop try to mace a gunman so the suspect shoot innocent people rather than the cops
oh wow

>>935942132
Netanyahu has already killed 60,000 Palestinians. Hamas only has 20,000 members. He's a fucking murderer.

>>935942410
Maybe so but that doesn't excuse the Iranian religious fanatics from oppressing their people which they are.

>>935942294
You can't sit there any cry that they're hitting civilians in israel, while also saying that it's better that they hit civilians instead of military targets.

>>935942342
Your comment makes no sense. the cop should be using a gun because then he has a greater chance of killing or at least stopping the gunman from killing anyone- cop or citizen.

Don't know what mace has to do with it.

>>935942601
In this instance the cop doesn't have a gun, only pepper spray

>>935942575
I'm not crying over that nor am I saying it's better. War sucks. Israel is in it to win. They are using military tactics that work to achieve a victory even if those have a downside. What good is protecting your citizens at the expense of military advantage of in the end it causes you to lose and your citizens are faced with slaughter by the enemy anyway?

>>935942667
Huh? This is an metaphor for the war. Israel has a gun so does Iran.

>>935942709
>They are using military tactics
oh the ones that they claim everyone is doing and hiding behind civilians?

>>935942742
No this discussion is about indiscriminate targeting by Iran, remember? Changing the topic does not equal a win for the previous argument.

>>935942821
It's about you claiming Israel strikes military targets and any civilian collateral damage is on Iran. And that Iran is striking civilian targets.

>>935942905
It's real simple friend. Iran is going to loose and there's nothing you can do about it. whatever targeting they use and all of the rest doesn't matter. They are done. The nut job clerics time is over. A new government will rise there which will not seek WMD's, not fund terrorist orgs, and not sell Oil to bad actors. Most importantly, the people will have religious freedom, free speech, equality before the law (even women) and due process of law.

FREE IRAN!!!


I'm done posting about this and am leaving the thread. It's been fun. Good day.

>>935943174
I hope you got at least a couple shekkels for the shillz