So what's your plan when you get drafted?

Stay woke?

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furiosuly masturbate

>>936139218 (OP)
let them draft me
I always wanted to die in war

>>936139218 (OP)
Do a 360 and walk away from the recruiter

>>936139945
If you do his in the draft office there still gonna take you. As its been done all ready same as shitting your self.. What you gotta do is shit your self then use your shit to masturbate.. That will get you kicked right the fuck out of there.. AND your welcome for this idea ;)

>>936140033
Ironically you’ll probably fail the psych eval

>>936139218 (OP)
ima filthy tranny


I am not wanted

c:}>

>>936140536
I’ve noticed tranners have created their own language of programming like symbols due to being chronically online

"Friendly" fire as many fucking kikes as I possibly can.

>>936140422
Holy shit i need to fucking proof read my shit when im dunk as fuck and posting lol .. sorry about that.. Think you get what i was trying to say, hopefully

have gay sex and do drugs

what does "drafted" mean, btw

>>936140680
It means having gay sex why doing hard core drugs why some guy in glass and a uniform watches you...

>>936139218 (OP)
The same thing as 90% of the population: refuse. A draft only works in a country where the people are blindly patriotic or highly servile. Our country is full of people flying the flag upside down and people who won't wear a face mask during a pandemic.

The only people willing to fight for the US government at this point are already in the military, and their recruitment numbers are cratering.

>>936140755
This guy rolled Dubs of truth, So he can't be lying.

>>936140492
I mean obviously I'm not gonna tell them that

>>936139218 (OP)
Cut off is 35. I'm not worried.

>>936142010
45 for not active duty. If the draft is brought back you can actually be call in to serve up till age 45 and over if you have skills like a being a doctor or dentist or lawyer of shit of that nature. Thankfully i did my 4 years active and 4 years reserve plus im medically out because of a fucked back . otherwise i fucking go back.. hate this civ life

>>936139218 (OP)
Drafted?? What are you smoking??
What draft??
There is no war between usa and Iran

What trump did was a simple punishment. Like when 2 children fight and won't stop. You step in and slap the aggressive kid. Tell him don't do it again.
Same thing.
No war.
Nobody is dumb enough to actually go to war with the USA. Any country would be annihilated by the NAVY ALONE!

>>936139218 (OP)
US military does not want or need a draft. Modern warfare requires small number of people with a higher level of skill to operate more complicated technology. Even if shit hits the fan, which is not certain, there will be no draft.

>>936142664
>Modern warfare requires small number of people with a higher level of skill to operate more complicated technology
Russia-Ukraine is the most technologically advanced war to date and it's required the mobilization of nearly a million people on each side to control an area the size of Pennsylvania. You still need soldiers to hold territory and even things like drones are being operated by individuals.

>>936139218 (OP)
they're using missiles chud
you can't hide from a nuke

>>936143227
All the more reason to stay home. Iranian missiles are shit; they aren't a threat to Americans who don't volunteer to put themselves in front of them.

>>936142841
They mobilize so many people because Russia's air power sucks much more than expected. They couldn't get air dominance against a country with almost no air force.

I didn't think I was eligible for re-enlistment. However I guess this is convenient, I suppose I'll see you in hell.

>>936143793
Both sides have mobilized nearly a million troops. And "air dominance" doesn't do as much as you think unless your country is willing to just carpet bomb the opposing population out of existence, which is probably going to lose you international support and, in a democracy like the US at least, domestic support. And even then you won't get all the soldiers in every field, forest, etc. That's why the US was unable to dislodge the Viet Cong or the Taliban despite massive bombing campaigns. If anything, the focus on small-scale guerilla tactics has increased the number of troops necessary to pacify a country because they're so spread out.

The United States needed approximately 1.5 million personal, not counting local allies, to bring about regime change in Iraq. Iran is three-and-a-half times the size and has twice the population of Iraq, so if any outside force actually tries to implement regime change it would be a mess.

>>936144056
Air dominance is very important for the sort of rapid combined operations where you overwhelm the enemy's information systems. Russia can't do that because its military sucks. Ukraine can't do that because it's not a superpower.

>>936144114
The US had air dominance in Iraq and Afghanistan and still required three million soldiers between them and lost one of the two wars. Israel obviously has air dominance over Gaza but they've called up over half a million people to pacify an area smaller and less populated than Connecticut. Air power, naval power, and technology all matter, obviously, but your initial claim that modern warfare requires small numbers of people is not factually supportable.

>>936144280
And they defeated the conventional forces in a few weeks and sustained losses of like 10 people per month for decades. That's what you can do with a good military.

>>936144331
But still required millions overall to stabilize the country and successfully bring about regime change, and even then only in one of two countries. If you are talking about an expanded war in Iran ie in terms of the regime change some people are suggesting then you are talking millions of soldiers and one of the largest conflicts since the Cold War. That is not "small", which is what we're talking about here. The debate is not about the successfulness of American or any other soldiers but about your claim that modern warfare doesn't require large numbers of personal which is demonstrably wrong.

>>936144465
US troops in Afghanistan reached a maximum of 100k, in later stages in went down to 5-10k. There was no draft in the US for its duration either.

I'd try to convince whatever unit I'm in to escape across the Suez to the horn.

>>936144492
Yes, but the war wasn't over in a month. It took twenty years, so the total number of soldiers was much higher. Iraq required a half a million American soldiers plus similar numbers of Iraqi forces at its height, and once again Iraq had a fraction of Iran's area, population, and both conventional and paramilitary forces.

I'm not debating the need for a draft because the American people won't accept the draft and it's a moot point. I'm just pointing out that the claim modern warfare is small scale is demonstrably false.

>>936144672
Just don't go. They can't throw millions of people in prison and if they do you won't spend long in there before Trump's head is in a basket.

>>936144716
You cycle those forces, so you only need 2-3 times as many if that. The US military has more than a million volunteers. The bottleneck is not people, it's trained people and equipment. That goes for both the US and Iran. It doesn't really matter how many donkeys you have against a tank.

>>936144853
And the cycling still required up to half a million soldiers at one time and 1.5 million soldiers total. Iran would require significantly more. It's not small.

>>936144953
Iran has a population of 92million people. Rule of thumb is that you need 20 soldiers per 1000 inhabitants to control an insurgency. That comes out to 1.8m people. The US military has 2.8 million personnel. It is capable of subduing Iran by itself. That wouldn't be desirable as there is bigger fish to fry, and there is no appetite for a full scale Iraq in Iran, but the US wouldn't go alone in any eventuality.

Find and marry a woman

>>936139218 (OP)
Go and inseminate a russian beauty while you're getting your head blown off on the Ukrainian frontline.

>>936139218 (OP)
go along with it, get trained and once deployed, sabotage every mission I can.

>>936145043
>the US wouldn't go alone in any eventuality
yeah, he forgot Poland

>>936145546
Kuwait, Bahrain, the UAE, and Saudi Arabia would be greatly affected by any closure of the Strait of Hormuz. The global economy in general will be affected to a lesser extent. China would be irritated for sure, not sure if enough to actually do anything kinetic though. Israel would go in for sure. Maybe France and Britain, they have significant force projection capabilities.

>>936145598
Oh an some internal resistance maybe too. The Iranian regime is very unpopular.

>>936145043
I don't know about your rule of thumb, I can only go by historical example:
>Iraq required roughly 500,000 people to invade and another million to pacify
>Afghanistan required roughly 25,000 people to invade and 800,000 American soldiers alone to attempt to pacify
>Iran currently has very roughly 3.5 times the population Iraq had at the beginning of the War on Terror and 4.5 times the population Afghanistan (and Iran also has a much larger geographic area)

Even conservatively, a full scale invasion of Iran would require at least a million personal and any resistance like the US saw in Afghanistan, Iraq, or even Vietnam would require two million more. The current US military has around 1.4 million active personnel and 800,000 reserves, but even if all reserves are called up we have to take into account that significant numbers of US forces, particularly in the Navy and Air Force which account for over 900,000 by themselves, would remain around the world serving other roles. Continued recruitment could contribute to long term forces, but given it takes time for future soldiers to reach enlistment age it is often hard to keep recruitment up with attrition. As for foreign nations, many even among our allies have condemned the violence (on all sides) and called for diplomacy so it is unlikely many would support an armed regime change just like most stayed out of the Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Is a war against Iran theoretically winnable? Of course, although Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Ukraine provide some concerning counterexamples. Can a war against Iran be waged without the draft? Once again, it's possible (and as I've already said it's a moot point anyway). But it would absolutely strain American capabilities, critically reduce our overall security, and disrupt millions of American lives. It would not be small. It would be a full-scale war.

>>936145598
>Kuwait, Bahrain, the UAE, and Saudi Arabia
i wonder about the combat effectiveness of a bunch of obese camel jockeys who have to stop everything to face Mecca and pray 5x/day

>>936145740
Not very effective. But then again, neither is Iran.

>>936144672
Don't go crossing waterfalls anon they'll actually ask someone to look for you.

>>936145734
> our allies have condemned the violence (on all sides)
Well, yeah, US would not invade Iran right now, that would be retarded. It would invade after several escalation cycles. Iran has already announced they will close down the Strait of Hormuz, depending how serious they are about that, that will piss off a lot of countries. Even in the worst case scenario of a full scale war, which is not guaranteed, there is basically no chance of a draft.

>>936145734
the U.S. hasn't won a war since 1945
no, Iraq I (where we fucked shit up for a few months then left) and Iraq II (where we left an unstable government and unprofessional native military in place who ceded 2/3 of the country to ISIS) don't count as victories
if we commit to a boondoggle in Iran, not only is victory not guaranteed, but China will take Taiwan and Russia will finish off the Ukes while we're busy

>>936145762
the Shi'a only pray 3x/day, though
more time for fighting

>>936145598
This assumes first off that Iran closes the Straight of Hormuz. It's a possibility, but not a guarantee. Saudi Arabia has historically been at odds with Iran but they've had a diplomatic thaw in recent years and the other countries aren't really military powers; also all the Gulf countries have already condemned the existing attacks on Iran.

France already refused to get involved in Iraq and likely they would refuse here too. Britain backed us in Iraq but might be sick of our shit. Most of America's and Israel's allies are already somewhat irritated with us do to the Gaza War, Trump's various actions, and the handling of Iran so far and it's hard to imagine many of them joining in a non-defensive war. And many of those countries also have growing anti-war and non-interventionist movements from both sides of the spectrum.

America can rely on Israel against Iran. Everything else is the wild west.

>>936145850
Disagree on the Gulf War. The goal was to liberate Kuwait from Iraq and, with other nations, the goal was achieved. The fact that we didn't engage in the folly of regime change isn't a negative; in fact the latter Iraq War proved it was the correct decision.

>>936145972
fair enough

>>936145937
The countries in the Gulf aside from Saudi Arabia entirely depend on trade through the Strait of Hormuz, and though Saudi Arabia does not depend on that completely it is still a large part of its economy. Whatever diplomatic thaw there's been it won't survive the closing of the Strait of Hormuz. Parliament has approved a measure to close it, but it seems Iran has not yet decided to actually do it. Whether the US goes in obviously will depend on how exactly Iran will react, if they do something symbolic to save face there will be no war, (and we will all be better off for it, of course). We'll see.

>>936146024
As most of the international community is somewhat on the outs with both Israel and the US I have said since Israel's first strikes that Iran's best bet is to appeal to the international community rather than fight an armed conflict in which they are at a disadvantage. If they could actually defend themselves that would be one thing, but without that ability they might as well roll the dice and play the victim. Given that much of the developing world has become so distrustful of the developed that they won't even stand up to Russia's clearly illegal war in Ukraine, there's a lot of room for sympathy when Iran actually does have some legal argument to make for their situation.

I'd pee on Iranian soil

>>936139218 (OP)
I won't be drafted. A draft threatens everybody, including rich kids and kikes.

>>936147208
I'd piss all over you while you did it, kike.

>>936139218 (OP)
stay woke ofc. let the maga faggots die for "israel"

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>>936139218 (OP)
Tbh bruh this whole subject makes me suspicious. Poll levels are such even pathetic old boomers who've been like propagandized to for 50 years about how great and how special Israel is are rejecting that same propaganda.
Guess they're not so useless after all, and if you're an Israel kike reading this please know I hope you're killed in the near future.

>>936147280
you're enlisting rn of course? "israel" needs you!

I'd shit on Iranian soil

>>936147280
And if that doesn't excuse you spineless chickenhawk cunts what will?

>>936139218 (OP)
but i'm not going to get drafted