Did you know that if you are mailing a letter to a friend and take a red sharpie and write, "FUCK THE US POSTAL SERVICE" on the envelope the white roastie with a nose ring at the counter at the post office pretending to work won't take the envelope? They will refuse. I think she started going into convulsions when I was leaving. It was really funny. I guess ya just had to be there.

>>936434977 (OP)
it should be privatized

>>936434977 (OP)
Sounds like you've been skipping your meds, op.

and then everybody clapped

>>936435015
Ah yes, let's take a functional community service that funds itself and doesn't leech tax payer money and hand it over to some sales bros who will quintuple the price and lower the quality.

>>936435101
>doesn't leech taxpayer money
False.
The post office receives hundreds of millions of dollars in taxpayer money in a laundered fashion.
All those court notices, social security checks, school notices, IRS mailings - all taxpayer paid postage.

>>936435015
you can use any of a dozen private delivery services already if you want to. g damn moron.

>>936435101
Our founding fathers were small government libertarians who only wanted the government to provide for the common defense and would be disappointed with how bloated it has become, they never envisioned the government having it's own delivery service

>>936435242
Exquisite bait, I tip my hat to you. Very clever.

>>936435152
You got me, let's privatize it, use taxpayer money to send that govt mail at an inflated price, and hand out multi million dollar bonuses to all the executives instead. Surely that would be more efficient.

the US post service looses money but I think its because the government fucks them over

The real solution is to let them act more independently, but still retain public ownership

Why do you want Wall Street to own it? Let them act as a for-profit company, but keep the winnings for taxpayers. State capitalism.

>>936435242
stupid mother fucker
>Article I, Section 8, Clause 7 of the United States Constitution, known as the Postal Clause or the Postal Power, empowers Congress "To establish Post Offices and post Roads." The Post Office has the constitutional authority to designate mail routes. The Post Office is also empowered to construct or designate post offices with the implied authority to carry, deliver, and regulate the mail of the United States as a whole. The Postal Power also includes the power to designate certain materials as non-mailable, and to pass statutes criminalizing abuses of the postal system (such as mail fraud and armed robbery of post offices).

>>936435288
Did I say anything about privatizing? I just wanted the truth about "muh non-taxpayer funded" posted.
I hate that line.

>>936435385
Far less than most "private" businesses the govt routinely bails out.
Imagine trying to run a business, but you need the govt to approve every little rate hike. Imagine being in a position, decades ago, to buy a fleet of your own planes to make mail delivery more efficient, but not being allowed to because that would be 'unfair' to the likes of FedEx and ups. Or having to pre fund benefits decades in advance because some govt faggots want a bigger pot to try and steal from.
The post office gets shit on, but it's one of the only examples of the US actually having a functional, somewhat sanely managed, public service.
Frankly I'm amazed it still exists and hasn't been gobbled up and pimped out yet.
Source: used to work there, but anything that big starts to feel like living in a Kafka novel.

>>936434977 (OP)
Hey dumb dumb
>swap the return address with the destination
>swap the destination with the return
>put in mail drop box with no postage
>???
>profits

>>936435728
postage due

>>936435321
these people go on about the constitution but don't even know whats in it

>>936435616
The postal service is the reason companies like Amazon, UPS, and FedEx can offer cheap shipping since they hook into USPS's existing logistics network. If anything, USPS should be prioritizing re-negotiating rates with their corporate contractors as a way to re-balance their budget since the average normal person doesn't really send things in the mail nearly as often as the companies do.

>>936435915
Word. I'm all for that. Fleece those fuckers getting filthy rich off of our public infrastructure.
Unfortunately those choices the USPS isn't allowed to make for itself, they have to be run past some big govt panels for approval, and it's likely most people making those decisions are bought and paid for.

>>936435288
>Let's privatize it
>Use taxpayer money
Pick one, you absolute retard.

>>936436204
If the USPS is privatized, the govt will still need to send mail... and they will have to pay.
Put on your big boy thinking cap and see if you can figure out where that money comes from.

>>936435321
The clause grants Congress power to "establish" postal facilities, not necessarily to operate, maintain, or monopolize mail delivery. The founding-era understanding of "establish" could mean simply creating the legal framework and infrastructure, potentially allowing private entities to operate within that system.

In 1787, postal services were far more limited in scope. The framers likely envisioned a basic system for official government correspondence and essential communications between states, not the comprehensive package delivery, advertising mail, and commercial services that dominate today's operations.

>>936436267
>Paying for stamps costs about the same as usps worker salaries, equipment purchase and maintenance costs, material supplies, etc
But for real tho, kys

>>936434977 (OP)
They were actually kinda cool back in the day.

>>936436136
I remember all those cut rates were negotiated years or decades ago so they have to keep them for legal reasons. They have been creeping up lately, but it's not enough. Then there's the increasing incidence of postal thefts, to the point where even cheapo services like ground have to tack on insurance.