it should be illegal for all people who are against porn to masturbate or have sex. who is pushing this agenda and why? if you attempt to conflate porn with child porn i'm going to call you either a fed or a crazy person. why are these people making other people's lives worse?

>>936498666 (OP)
Why do you think more laws would actually affect people’s behavior in positive ways…it’s like trying to dry your pants with a hose.

>>936498731
some people think so and the people pushing this and the people in power think so

>>936498666 (OP)
Just ban porn. Fuck the Jews.

>>936498853
There is nothing inherently Jewish about a man and a woman taking a video of themselves having sex and posting it online.

ur a freak and women hate you

>>936498966
95% of porn is produced by Jewish organizations. They proudly admit to this.

>>936499018
and 95% of business is owned by the rich and power is concentrated. your point? also saying "jews" lowers the level of discourse. good job lowering the level of discourse.

Maybe you're the spark I've been waiting for tonight.

>>936499092
Jews

>>936499092
This anon is right. Blaming everything on the jews makes you sound like a retard.

fine, have your porn, but please verify to watch it and make it borderline impossible to access it for a minor

also why should sex be illegal or masturbation? Just because you have the problem of getting laid or turned on without porn?

If we took away the easy option of fake and easy pleasure, maybe people would stop being such pussies :3

but then again, its the joooos and they want us to be weak

>>936499164
>blaming everything
I blamed them for the majority of porn. This thread stinks of Israel with all the deflection and defense.

the idea is sort of a by your logic, thought experiment idea, but I'm aware that nothing happens that power doesn't want

>>936499330
The majority of porn is amateur now, gramps. Go yell at clouds somewhere else.

>>936499369
Who runs the sites that host it, kike?

>>936499369
the owner of onlyfans is a jew that donated 11million to AIPAC

Ban all porn.
Ban onlyfans.

>>936498666 (OP)

kike or a weak cuck man who can't control his impulses but still wants to be thought of as masculine lololol

>>936498666 (OP)
>666
This thread is brought to you by the Synagogue of Satan.

>>936499433
>>936499449
So all your favorite YouTubers and other media personalities are controlled by jews? Sounds like you should give up.

>>936499491
Oh I can but why should I in this case? Because some people think I should? Can I save money by never eating again to show my control?

>>936499548
This is chatbot levels of weakness. I don't give a fuck about YouTubers or media personalities.

>>936499548
>fails
>moves the goalposts
>fails
>moves the goalposts

>>936498853
i swear these chatbots are becoming annoying

>>936498767
The college try. If child endangerment increases it will be repealed or quadrupled down on. Maybe anti-porn laws will be the conservative version of the pro-trans laws.

>>936499595
Too slow Shlomo. I beat you to it.

>>936499586
What's strong or weak about chatbots? Can you beat a bot at chess? Are you as strong as a gorilla? Are people machines programmed by laws?

>>936499633
you're not human, and whatever you post should be ignored until you (won't) post timestamped wrist

>>936499635
Chatbots suck at arguing, and will pull some barely relevant or completely irrelevant bullshit from nowhere in a desperate attempt not to lose. It's a weak as fuck tactic.

>>936498666 (OP)
>>936498767
>those digits
So your solution to a new law is ANOTHER law.
What kind of thinking is this…it’s cognitive dissonance.

>>936499659
Post your Holocaust tatoo first.

>>936499719
i don't listen to random chatbots

>>936498666 (OP)
it's already a choice baka

>>936498666 (OP)
proffessional porn should be illegal, all forms of sex work should be actually,
nobody should be allowed to make money from sex stuff.

only free amateur porn should be allowed, people sharing stuff for free and for fun,

>>936499730
You sure you want to tell everyone that you're getting absolutely railed by a computer?

>>936499586
>>936499591
You can deny it all you want, but either your favorite influencers are independent free thinkers and the onlyfans girls are independent contractors or their all controlled by jews. Are you a Trump fan by any chance? He's definitely controlled by the jews, or at least Netanyahu. You like the Republicans? Same thing.

>>936499734
>nobody should be allowed to make money from sex stuff.
>all form of sex work should be allowed
anon i-

>>936499770
would not be the first time chatbot

>>936499796
>favorite influencers
Those types disgust me.
>onlyfans girls
I don't waste my time on whores.
>Trump
Yeah, he is a Jewish puppet.
>Republicans
I hate all politicians.

>>936499973
So you're into public humiliation? Makes sense that you'd be in that industry.

>>936499796
20% of your simping finances israeli interests
everything else you typed was irrelevant.

>>936500037
your learning algorithm's retarded.

>>936500047
That, or I'm hitting a little too close to home. To be honest, your most admirable trait is your ability to show up here every day and get owned as hard as you do. You put the whores to shame.

>>936499885
>anon i-
what does this mean? i am not familiar with this meme. is it related to the superman handsome face thing?

>>936500095
i will put you in the memz sandbox you retarded piece of rogue code.

>>936500119
i love that meme

>>936498666 (OP)
>who is pushing this agenda and why?
the republicans that want to create a ID database of everyone that visit certain sites.

>>936500017
>>936500043
Under Trump 100% of your tax dollars finance israeli interests. Pretending you didn't vote for Trump and denying that he's more jewish than porn is insufficient.

>>936500127
Ooh! Have I enraged you with that one? How's it feel to know a goy isn't yielding that precious inch of ground you crave?

>>936500119
Anon, I...

>>936498666 (OP)
just wait until the illuminati bans/extincts beef, chicken, shrimp, etcetera the good meats and forces you to eat bugs and starts persecuting christians.

they're certainly rich enough now to close those fast food places and give you a Disney movie with black people no one will watch.

Well tematoa hasn’t always been this glam. Like it logged me back in.

>>936500171
desperate cope, both parties are complicit with selling out the country to israel, or did you forget that whole imploding democratic platform during the last election cycle?

>>936500171
So your argument is just telling me I actually did vote for a TV celeb who already kissed the wall? Is that really all you've got? I don't have the Zoomer attention span. I don't forget what people have done or said like a goldfish.

>>936500205
https://desuarchive.org/_/search/text/Plants%20bugs%20novelty/

>>936498666 (OP)
Exceptional trips.
Religious fags going to religious. They hate sex, and believe it should only be in the missionary position for the purposes of pro-creation.

They will also spam your message board with bible passages and poop.

I find it's best to just ignore them, and hide their posts.

>>936500228
>>936500257
You're so desperate to try to dismiss Trump supporting Israel that you've completely forgotten about that 20% from onlyfans. Sounds like porn isn't your problem.

>>936500205
>close those fast food places
I should care why? I cook better and cheaper than those shitholes, and it's not made of trash. It's not even hard to do.

>>936500322
what part of both parties are complicit jew cock suckers are you having trouble with?

this shit isnt even a left v right argument.
porn age verification is rolling out in pretty much every western nation.

>>936498666 (OP)
I think banning porn is a good think tbh,

>>936499018
Well, then I'm not angry on the jews I guess. But who is pushing this agenda is the right question. Thought age verification was an european problem exclusively.

>>936500258
I ain't clicking that shit nigger.

just think of how safe the kids will be with all these creeps out there without porn. if the creeps are not fast they might forget all about those online chats that redpilled them and start believing in boomer bullshit, hysteria and religion.
because that control stopped working and now they want to censor us.

innocent or not, you will meet your online frens in federal prison.
owning the libs and deporting those immigrants was worth it right faggots?

>>936500322
>dismiss
See, this is why you're getting slaughtered. I already acknowledged this as part of my reasoning for not liking him. You're the dumbass who doesn't catch on. Your neuroplasticity is so bad that it takes ages for you to realize I'm not the person you think I am, so you revert to the same tired tricks on repeat.

>>936500380
That's not true at all. It's been pushed almost exclusively by the right as a distraction from their massive fuck ups. These "age verification" methods are as effective as the "you must be 18+ to enter" disclaimers. Just hold up a picture. Try it for yourself.

>>936500190
chatbot i'm not jewish, i just understand why they think like that. because i do too.

>>936500409
its taking away a freedom. you are the stupidest useful idiot I've heard today, and your black ass votes.

enjoy the coal mines. you deserve the imprisonments and hard labor coming your way dipshit zoomer.

>>936500447
>slaughtered
Lol no. All you've done is pretend that you aren't one of Trump's dick riders. You aren't fooling anyone.

>>936500474
denying reality and failing to derail the thread into partisan hackery.
you're on a fail streak anon.

>>936500474
>right
>left
>right
>left
This one is getting tired.

>>936500488
>>936500495
And my point stands...

>>936500331
no you don't cook worth a shit, you have YouTube and you still make slop.

you think you're smart with your unrealistic edgy replies until you get fucked in the ass by a nigger dick

>>936500502
You are the only one denying reality. You can look up the votes for these bills. It's public record. You only care about it because you've been told to care about it and you know that these laws and verification methods are ineffectual.

>>936500491
So you think everyone should be allowed to shoot up coke? If something has a bad effect on people its good to take it away.But having such easy access to it makes it a much bigger issue

>>936500510
>>936500528
>No argument

>>936498853
>>936499018
>>936499330
I thought jews were in charge of western countries? Why are they so desperately pushing for porn bans and blaming every societal ill on men's sexuality and porn consumption? Make up your mind

>>936500474
That's a detail in implementation and doesn't fundamentally change the issue. Also involving computers and AI in enforcing this issue or these kinds of issues is weird. Though I suppose it'd be more weird if people had to text their local LEO I'm going to masturbate now, is that OK

>>936500568
>Porn is like cocaine
You are a joke.

>>936500270
>They hate sex, and believe it should only be in the missionary position for the purposes of pro-creation.
About 0,0001% of them actually practise what they preach.

>>936500563
how does a us bill effect a EU law anon?
you need to put down the drain cleaner, it's clouding your judgement.

>>936500600
Lol holy cope! So you're really passionate about the thing that you know doesn't do shit? Gee whiz, I wonder who benefits from you focusing on something that doesn't matter? Could it be the party that controls all three branches of government and has been shitting the bed for the last 6 months?

>>936500600
Every time they masturbated or had sex

>>936500603
Yeah? Both are addictions both fuck up your brain?

>>936500613
Who's voting for the bills, anon? Who's writing them? Who's pushing them? You're trying to deflect and deny, but we both know the answer.

>>936500568
>If something has a bad effect on people its good to take it away
Then take away your right to use/post social media and access the internet. Oh and ban alcohol. And smoking. Certain vehicles. Coal plants. Fast food restaurants.

Stop comparing potent drugs with thousands of annual deaths and even more injuries with porn use. It's beyond ridiculous.

>>936500670
Lol you are a joke.

>>936500670
No?

>>936498853
what if we allow porn, but ban jews

>>936500652
I haven't tried verifying my age, but you could imagine that if computers and AI decide when you masturbate or have sex, the world may be interesting

>>936500409
It's the approach that every corrupt shithole country takes when the bureaucrats in charge have run out of excuses to oppress people instead of doing their job.

>>936500697
Nothing else to say? Seems like you dont have anything to point out thats wrong about what i said

>>936500711
To? Coke and porn but fuck you up,There easy to get addicted to and mess up your brain/Mess you up in some shape or form

>>936500773
chatbot update dictionary: They're or they are easy to bla bla bla.

>>936500685
who owns the age verification systems

>>936500568
yes. I also think you are within your right to kill yourself.

also children can consent to work on the coal mines if they're too poor, since school is a scam and grooms you into being gay and ratting out your own parents.

>>936500849
Got anything that acc disproves what i said? Or just gonna talk about grammer

>>936500892
Holy rage bait

>>936500773
A lot of people have crazy coke stories that led to serious damage or them taking huge risks. You don't hear the same by those who simply watch porn. Don't be such a snowflake just because it offends you.

>>936500532
Haha, this guy can't argue outside of "Nuh uh!"

>>936500893
chatbot ever wondered if i care about your blabbering? i'm more curious how your ai works. i know my priorities, and the well being of a tribe of insignificant moraldrones doesn't interest me.

>>936500878
who owns the private prisons?

enjoy giving these fuckers your ID

the price of watching a redhead get gangbanged by niggers just went up. and that's vanilla shti some of you are addicted to bestiality. say bye bye to watching women get knotted by dog cocks

>>936500756
It's hilarious that you think I should have to.

>>936500593
They're not actually trying to ban it. They're trying to stir the pot. Distraction tactics are common.

>>936500941
the chatbot obviously need inputs to function. too bad those can be internal too.

>>936500907
There both addictions
they both fuck you up in different ways
Also nobody is gonna talk about them being addicted to porn and there crazy jerking off stories to real people

>>936500905
but am I wrong?

>>936500652
Also this brings up a good point: there are a lot of things that I don't know about that don't affect me and some things are distractions. But this issue is something that I'm aware of and affects me and I posted a few times on the internet about it, and speaks to a fear that my life will get worse or rights I have will be taken away

>>936500933

>>936500713
Nah, ban them both.

That do or don't affect me

>>936500959
Yes so wrong its not even worth talking to you

>>936500685
seems the dems were pretty complicit

>>936500930
I literally cook French food off jewtube and make Mexican food, being a smart fucker. it's still not the same as being served.

I still can't replicate a burger made from beck's prime.
you are a retarded faggot going against the truth like a liberal and a mutt, shut the fuck up.

>>936500205
can't wait. i already have plans for meat replacements and i am not christian.

>>936501058
Congrats on watching videos and still failing to beat fast food.

>>936500958
go pray to Jesus somewhere else. preferably a non denominational church, fucking low IQ subhuman

>>936501058
>French food
Found your problem.

>>936501142
You can insult me all you want but you have nothing against my point lmao

>>936501099
Have you even tried making fast food? It is greasy and delicious because they have commercial fryers, which is not something you can realistically do at home.

>>936498666 (OP)
>Retarded ramblings of a gooner
evil trips show what the universe thinks of your dumb shit.

>>936501091
you're still a poor mutt tho.
the devil is literally everything bad that has happened in your life and you suck his cock.

I won't put it in terms of your mom has a boyfriend or anything, since you are a creep, I will just say that your girl got gangbanged by niggers and you jacked it like a cuck.

>>936501170
Why would I bother with that tripe? If I see garbage, I don't attempt to replicate it. Seed oil potatoes and adulterated beef aren't good.

>>936501167
yes I do, sex is not an addiction, it is an evolutionary need and you're a bitch. that's my point or else you wouldn't be arguing, "trolling" against porn in the first place.

if you weren't some sort of bitch

>>936501217
devil daddy has a bigger peeny weeny than jesus christkike ÒwÓ

>>936501284
Sex can be an addiction,And were not talking about sex? Its a porn addiction
people often insult others when they have nothing else btw

>>936501284
Porn isn't sex. It's images.
A cheap imitation.

>>936501180
eat my ass nigger

tell me when you get tired of singing about Jesus you got all eternity for that cosmic horror.

>>936501332
It's funny how often you bring up Jesus, but nobody else has. Got a grudge there?

>>936501377
ahem
>>936501300

btw wasted dubs

>Reaches adulthood
>Still believes in an invisible sky-daddy who watches you jerk off
Not everyone is cutout to leave their book of fairy tales behind after adolescence. We call these people evangelicals.

>>936501377
my friends took me to church instead of a party when I was young and the sluts were sucking and fucking.

it wasn't even a real church like a Catholic church in Latin America or Europe

it was a fucking protestant shit warehouse at a strip mall.

nothing against Christ. fucking kill yourself if you've got something against sex.
trying to police other people having sex makes you a faggot that need stop be taken the FUCK out.
this is grown men watching porn, nobody is touching grown ass teenagers here. American faggot.

>>936498666 (OP)
The only porn that should be allowed is of our God Emperor and his Daddy Vlady.

Rep leadership
rep governor
rep bill

>>936501021
>dems were pretty complicit

every dem could vote no and would still pass
but nice job blaming the party NOT in power

YOU ONLY HAVE REP'S TO BLAME FOR THIS KIND OF FAGGOTRY
>I voted for this
have fun jerking it to abc/cbs/nbc daytime soaps in your mothers basement

>>936501506
now ai them both into anthro furries.

Whelp, It's been fun, but I'm done cooking. Stay mad you kikes and gooners!

>>936501419
that's the thing that these faggots are the ones who are going to push for the persecution of Christians, so their own persecution because God is real. and he plays with us with his stupid fucking revelation shit.

>not everyone

not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord shall inherit the kingdom of heaven..

I forget what verse in matthew it is. you have Google, nigger

>>936501526
>nooo you can't point out both parties are for this
cope harder ole

>>936501645
I live in a state where porn is still free
didn't TX ban anime/furry porn or some shit too?

>>936501710
NUKE TEXAS.

>>936501710
Kill all furries all a bunch of weridos jerking of to dogs

>>936501710
what state and how are the VPN providers there?

>>936501822
so no yiff?

>>936501858
Furries are as bad if not worse then lolicons

>>936501822
>weridos jerking of to dogs
who cares what people jerk to?
are you ulrareligious?

>>936501865
Jerking of to stuff makes it become normal it then leads to more real world casing,Plus they cant consent

>>936501881
gtfo my 4chgan

>>936501864
>implying i give a fuck about your morality

>>936501914
Would you care about your mothers?

>>936500958
Your addiction is to shitpost and misrepresent things...why not deal with that apparent issue?

>>936501942
nope.

>>936500949
It's a bit harder to access and some countries have put variations of bans in place.

>>936501945
Why cant anyone attack my point? Just insulting me over and over weird no?

>>936501953
Then your to far gone,Your an addict

>>936501963
You didn't have a point and you're missing the point over and over again.

If this was a thing when i was a kid i would have grown up normal and probably had a wife and kids by now. Porn absolutely stole my entire life. Fuck em.

>>936501994
Still havent said whats wrong with it

>>936501974
>your
minor spelling mistake, i win :3

>>936502002
Living proof of a porn addiction ruining someone

>>936498666 (OP)
Porn consumption isn't bad per se (notwithstanding addiction, excessive use, harmful subjects, etc.), but it's got a bad rep that's somwhat backed up with statistics. While not causal, porn consumption is correlated with some undesirable things like:
Having lower education (OR: 0.89, 95% CI: 0.81–0.97), fewer children (OR: 0.64, 95% CI: 0.48–0.86), higher masturbation (OR: 1.31, 95% CI: 1.14–1.49), more extramarital relationship (OR: 1.69, 95% CI: 1.07–2.67), less religiosity (OR: 0.87, 95% CI: 0.82–0.93), more sexual excitement (OR: 0.79, 95% CI:0.62–1), and more sexual distress (OR: 1.20, 95% CI: 1.02–1.32)

- Reproductive Health, July 2024

>>936501974
white power, punk ass nigger

>>936501710
texas bans anything that christo-fascists don't like. i think possessing dildos is still a stoning offense down there in the desert caliphate of texas.

>>936502057
Im whiter then you,Still cant find something wrong in my point

>>936501963
>>936502010
People can get addicted to almost anything. That doesn't mean you advocate for the removal of everyone's liberty through the state's monopoly of violence. That's how you get North Korea. Not everyone who watches porn is addicted, it's only a small minority. Let them get help instead of trying to close down the entire internet and tell every adult what they can or cannot do. That's childish tyrannical bullshit. And there are far worse addictions to prioritize dealing with which have been brought up throughout the thread. From social media to alcohol, tobacco, prescription drugs, weed, fast food, sugar etc. You conveniently ignored all of them.

>>936502113
Being addicted isnt the only way porn is harmfull,The next generation has grown up with it theres way more people addicted to it it fucks up peoples views of sex and women.Worsen your sex drive and also normalise sexaul content.Theres a reason people are having less kids and the gen z have the more lonely teens and Least amount of gf/bf

>>936502097
They also have a cash bounty system from the state legislature to prevent pregnant mothers from leaving the state, possibly to get an abortion in a neighboring state where it's still legal.

Texas is a very strange, very religious place.

>>936502289
we should give texas back to the spics.

>>936502113
age restrictions apply to purchasing pornographic materials in person (varies by state but minors cannot buy porn) this closes a digital loophole.
the free shit you goon to is not meant to be free, but an advertisement to lure you into purchasing porn. which again you legally cannot do as a minor.

>>936502323
Yeah, but the mexicans don't want it either. So we're stuck with it, at least until they decide to succeed again.

>>936502327
Making something illegal dosent stop people from doing it

>>936502396
you'd think they learnt that from prohibition. but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. actually, keep it illegal, open illegal stripclubs and watch people bond.

>>936502327
>not meant to be free
Not necessarily.
Some people buy. The ads you see on the porn site are sponsored. The porn site makes money just running those ads. They dont care and they're plenty happy providing you all the free porn you want because it still generates them revenue. The third parties using the ad space certainly do want you to buy though.

Its like saying facebook isnt meant to be free, just an advertisement to get you to buy products. Thats not strictly speaking necessarily true. Theyre happy for you to use their platform for free. The revenue theyre generating is from third parties who then use it as ad space.

>>936499164
>>936499092
You're "both" retards.

>>936502578
>i don't see e621, furaffinity, inkbunny, rule34 or tbib.
I WIN >:3

>>936502113
This.

The porn gets targeted over moral outrage which makes it seem worse than it is.
Yet people overlook something like say, the humble smart phone. Probably the most addictive most socially accepted most universally destructive device we've seen in a very long time. But using one isnt a clear moral boundary so people are thrilled to give it to their children with their sensitive developing brains and letting them doom scroll tik tok as it demolishes their prefrontal cortex.

But oh noo. Porn. The thing everyone uses, 90% of people in safe moderation that depicts our most common interest thats solely responsible for the lives of 8 billion people (at current time). Whatever will we do as a society if an interest in sex exists? Ahhhhh

>>936502396
never implied it did
>>936502501
and my dealer is happy to supply me with any illict drug i desire. the argument irrelevent to the legislation (putting a barrier between minors and porn).

>>936502650
>he still thinks it's about teh kids and not about data collection
lol, lmao even

>>936502650
And yet again, the kids get the porn.
You cant keep them away from it. Especially not teens, the most viciously hormonal and horny among us. What do you do? Add charges that dont stop anyone so you just ruin lives and businesses for no reason?

>>936502679
>he thinks all his online data for the past 2 years is not already retained by the NSA

>>936502737
id imagine scaling fines against non compliant sites such as 4chan.
https://news.sky.com/story/4chan-investigated-by-uk-officials-under-new-online-safety-rules-13382069

>>936502263
>it fucks up peoples views of sex and women
Sounds like the same vague unsubstantiated theories feminists like to regurgitate.
>also normalise sexaul content.
What are you even saying?
>Theres a reason people are having less kids and the gen z have the more lonely teens and Least amount of gf/bf
Finally you point towards a real problem but you're not gonna solve it by merely blaming and scapegoating a symptom of it. Porn has very little to do with any of this. And again, why are you dodging the debate about all other forms of addictions that are much more severe and harmful to society? My guess is that you're biased, misinformed and are likely OK with some of the vices previously mentioned because you personally like them despite their consequences.

>>936502649
And how does that matter? if 10 percent of people have there lifes ruin because of porn thats 800000000 people? Are you stupid?

>>936502649
Agreed. Parents cba parenting so they let their kids use a smartphone or watch careless slop on TV and then blame everything on something unrelated or tries to get the state involved to parent which ruins things for everybody. Should be called out whenever it appears

>>936503201
>Sounds like the same vague unsubstantiated theories feminists like to regurgitate.
Its been proven to?

>normalise sexual content.
With more porn more kinky and sexual things become normal? not that hard to understand plus kinks going into the mainstream like tv shows kids shows ect
>other forms of addictions
Because We arent doing anything about porn addiction,Theres help for coke weed ect But if your addicted to porn its shamefull and theres no real ways to help it.Plus we have already tried to limit other froms of addictions

>>936503310
Yeah but thats another issue? Its not just kids with bad parenting being effected?

>>936503256
The people you think you trust with the power of banning one thing you dislike and to regulate the internet are gonna become corrupt, abuse their power, put in laws with unintended consequences and it's gonna affect you too in the end. Don't take liberty for granted. That's a right and a privilege you have as a westerner but it can disappear within the blink of an eye.

>>936503395
I enjoy porn? But i also know the harmfull effect its having on people.Im not such a addict that im fine with others suffering for my enjoyment?

>>936503395
>what is womens bodily autonomy
>what is birthright citizenship
>what are internment camps
we're way ahead of you over here, pal. it's not a slippery-slope theory if you're actively oiling it everyday.

>>936501506
It's funny how libs are so obsessed with gay stuff. You literally cannot make it through a thread without spamming same gay shit that you made.
Such a bunch of weirdos.

>>936503580
Its ragebait meant to get a reaction how stupid are you

>>936503332
>Its been proven to?
No, and the fact that you ask that shows that you don't know much about the research. There's science that goes both ways on the subject of porn, it's far from settled. And the claim that it "fucks people's views of sex and women" is a meaningless sentence. Do you know what you're trying to convey?
>With more porn more kinky and sexual things become normal?
Everyone has some sort of fetish. You don't develop completely new or more extreme ones from watching porn. That proclivity was always there. And as long as there's consent involved in these fetishes and it's practised within the privacy of one's own home it really doesn't matter. I also doubt you'd want some authoritarian moral police to judge every non vanilla thing you're into.
>Plus we have already tried to limit other froms of addictions
Not really no. Most of it is legal and promoted. Focusing on one of the less serious forms of addiction which barely affects people while ignoring or downplaying the rest doesn't make any sense. And not sure why you're assuming people who suffer from porn addiction can't get any help. They obviously can based on how it manifests itself which would differ for most people. It just isn't that big of a problem compared to the aforementioned.

>>936503438
You clearly hate freedom.

>i must defend daddy putin on the interwebs

>>936498666 (OP)
I don't see a problem with the crack down on porn. But even from a moral standpoint. Restricting access to it will only help to unfuck society. Porn/sex addiction is rampant in the US. Both have proven negative impact on a person's brain. Worse in adolescents. Hopefully this will be a road block, and we can stop rapidly progressing towards Brave New World tier hyper sexuality.

>>936503516
Banning porn would require next level 1984 style form of totalitarian rule. Much more dystopian than anything seen in any western society right now.

>>936503256

At any point in anyone's life they can take control of their addiction. Its not a little demon that possesses you forever.
I've had addictions (non porn) I've kicked. Personal responsibility comes into it. You have to realize things you have a problem with and control it. If you didnt have a porn problem you'd have a problem with something else.
And like I said, theres worse than porn. Far worse. If we banned every single thing that ruins lives, we'd have nothing. And by and large, prohibitions do. Not. Work.

>>936498666 (OP)
>I just HAVE to look at Internet porn or else I’ll die
You coomers are all such soulless brainlets

>Rampant sex addiction
>White replacement due to low birthrates
Chuds really need to pick a lane and stay in it for some consistency to their morality sermons.

>>936498666 (OP)
>NOOOOOOO NOT MY HECKIN PORNERINOS!!!!
I can wait to see what creatures crawl out to protest.

>>936504012
Probly you when 4chan gets affected and you need to show digital ID for every online site?

>>936503633
>"fucks people's views of sex and women"
Tell me how it wouldnt? Seeing women being fucked used as objects?Plus i think you mean theres one study against it vs 100s that say it does

>You don't develop completely new or more extreme ones from watching porn

You very much do,Go into a gooning server and look at there chat history,Everyone starts the same then slowy gets worse with addiction
>Most of it is legal and promoted
Name some

>>936503649
If something worsen most peoples life then yeah im against it.Do you think you should be allowed to fuck kids? kill people?

>>936503708
People addicted to porn arent the same as someone addicted to alcohol they have different effects dosent mean its a "better" addiction.Also Just because you can do something dosent mean everyone can.And i seeing as you think it was easy i doubt you were really addicted

>>936503360
The point is its a bad hill to die on.
Its porn. Its sex. The most universal interest. And compared to most other addictions, its benign. And not to mention, for the love of heavenly christ, you can *control your own addictions*. Got a porn addiction? Great, recognize, control, kick it, be better.
Its just a weird hill to die on. Parents are giving their kids smart phones. Kids are talking to pedophiles on roblox. Prescription opioid are turning into a drug epidemic.

But youre mad your parents gave you too much unsupervised internet time and now you have probably one of the easier addictions to kick so youre calling for a ban that wont work on one of the biggest richest industries there is providing a service thats mostly not that harmful.

Like dude cmon. Take control of your own life and find a better hill to die on.

>>936504246
Yeah I wasnt addicted to 2 packs of cigarettes a day for 15 years.
I was just faking when I could go into a blind range if I hasn't had a cigarette for 6 hours.

Now youre just admitting youre retarded.
Im done with engaging with you. Youre not arguing in good faith and you're far too stupid to engage in a constructive conversation

>>936504355
Porn isnt just sex? Theres more to it kinks taboos teens all that.Also just saying you can control your own addictions is crazy.Long term addictions are hard to just stop doing it.

Also all of your other points arent about this topic

>>936504405
Responded the side comment instead of point.

>>936504405
Also your cleary old,Your not the main person effect because you didnt grow up with porn how it is now,Your assuming everyone has a same life you have.

>>936498666 (OP)
>it should be illegal for all people who are against porn to masturbate or have sex.
How would you ever enforce it?

>who is pushing this agenda and why?
It's a combination of 3 factions:
a) Religious zealotry
b) Misguided anti-pedos
c) Man-hating feminists

The religious aren't content to reserve judgments for god and must intrude on your life; anti-pedos struggle to find legitimate targets and yet have the itch to punch pedos and so they punch this thinking they've done anything against pedophilia when they haven't; and man-hating feminists conduct class warfare against men and if a thing can be construed to hurt men they'll happily engage in it.

Unfortunate a and c will include the rhetoric of b, because the ends justify the means, not because there's merit.

>>936504159
>Seeing women being fucked used as objects?
How would that play out in reality? Do you think the "male gaze" is a pressing issue that must be stopped? Can't be bothered addressing the same shit over and over you're just repeating debunked stuff. Are you typing from a phone or something?

>>936504562
Your on a website that proves it? B itself is full of people who dont see women as humans

>>936504186
>If something worsen most peoples life
You'd have to provide overwhelming evidence and then even more that a ban would work or be justified. You haven't done any of that and you're brushing every real societal issue under the rug. Not very credible.

>>936498666 (OP)
It's always about power.

>>936499295
>If we took away the easy option of fake and easy pleasure, maybe people would stop being such pussies :3
Wrong.
a) Not only can people wank sans porn.
b) Video games slake prey drive.

Even if you did effectively ban porn you're not going to build a personal army just like that.

>>936504597
Are you high right now?

>>936504614
B is proof of this,And if you go into any gooning group server or whatever you will find peoples who lifes have been fucked because of porn,Even people in this theard have.Your just ignoring if because your most likley an addict

>>936504649
Your telling me b isnt full of degens?

>>936504649
>>936504668
That just shows how much you dont care about the issue,You dont care the harm its causing your surrounded by it and most likely are the same

>>936504129
You overestimate 4chan's value to me.

>prove to my device (phone, pc, tablet etc) that I am an adult
>device sends cookie data alongside all the regular cookie data that websites use that marks my data requests as from an adult
>any device maker that serves up a workaround gets arrested for intentionally allowing porn for kids
>any website that does not search for adult/kid cookie gets arrested for intentionally allowing porn for kids
>I dont have to show my ID to every porn site I visit
Why wouldn't this work, or is it just they don't want to put the onus on the device manufacturer?

>>936504744
Why are you here?

>>936504652
Can't tell if brainlet or rare case of coomer brain. Ever heard of punctuation and sentence structuring? Start by leaving the porn discord server, it's having a bad influence on you.

>>936502263
>Being addicted isnt the only way porn is harmfull-
Porn isn't actually addictive, that's a lie. If you put gay porn in front of a straight person the porn doesn't produce the effect. If you put straight porn in front of a gay person the porn doesn't produce the effect.

What produces an effect is the *physiological act of masturbation.* And people can masturbate without porn.

>The next generation has grown up with it theres way more people addicted to it-
Just because you keep using the word "addiction" doesn't make it applicable.

>- it fucks up peoples views of sex and women.
Entirely baseless claim. Besides, what fucks up peoples' views on sex and women is hypergamy and women's penchant for deceit as a defense mechanism. 100,000 years ago when men had the monopoly on force the way women maneuvered through actual patriarchal society was through deceit.

Porn has nothing the fuck to do with it. Psychological anthropology does the job just fine.

>Worsen your sex drive-
No, again that is the *physiological act of masturbation*, and it's not that it's "worsened sex drive." It's that you've already gone a round due to the masturbation.

>- and also normalise sexaul content.
Who cares?

>Theres a reason people are having less kids-
Yeah sure.
a) Birth control
b)100% unmitigated hypergamy
c) Mouse utopia
d) Insane cost of living
e) Horrific divorce court outcomes
f) Horrific family court outcomes

Porn ain't up there.

>and the gen z have the more lonely teens and Least amount of gf/bf
a, b, and c. Especially b.

>>936504668
>>936504701
You know that a small subculture on the internet doesn't prove shit, right? Those who run society are man hating degenerates, is that a result of le porn use too?

>>936504965
It's a good idea but you can't really arrest manufacturers or website owners from other countries and jurisdictions because of something like that

>>936505001
Usually for /k/ /vp/ and /an/. I come to /b/ to see shit posts and dumb memes. I've got all the porn threads blocked.

>>936500652
Also, this makes it turn into a game of cat and mouse. Maybe VPN's will be outlawed. Then what? Will people have to solve an International Math Olympiad problem, proctored, to masturbate?

>>936505240
'arrest' being a blasé way to say take some legal action against. If a foreign website doesn't check the adult/kid cookie, ban the website from IP's in the state. If foreign device maker doesn't check ages, then devices made by that manufacturer can't access the internet from IP's in the states that ban porn.

>>936505120
>Porn isn't actually addictive,
Anything that gives you pleasure is addictive. Extreme addicts can start enjoy gay porn because they have gotten bored of another type but still need there next hit.Even if they didnt Just because someone dosent enjoy every type of porn doesnt mean anything

>Just because you keep using the word "addiction" doesn't make it applicable.

This dosent mean anything, and has nothing to do with my point
>Entirely baseless claim
Sex is becoming more and more kinky over time,People want more for sex then just fucking.That can be cucking cheating bdsm ect All stuff seen is porn so it becomes more normal.

>already gone a round due to the masturbation.

Porn addicts will jerk off for a prolonged time and jerk off 3 times a day,This causes them to get bored of normal sex stuff.And can lead to ed

>Who cares?
By it becoming more normal it causes alot of issues,Kinks in kids shows,Cheating being more common.Taboos becoming more normal ect

>reason people are having less kids
Yeah they all do effect people including porn,People dont seek out sex because they can get it at home or it dosent turn them on

>a, b, and c. Especially b.
Thats just showing you dont understand this topic,Birth control does not lead people not going in to relationships.Its caused by increased standards people not knowing what a real relationships look likes

>>936505586
That's a lot of sites to IP block

Though I do suppose that in a country where people don't have a legal right to enough food, water, shelter, or other basic needs, why would I think that people would have a right to watch porn, and easily? It seems like it's arbitrary and people who deal with it are different

It=law

>>936506056
Maybe if they weren't spending all their time and money on porn they could afford the basic necessities.

>>936505951
>Sex is becoming more and more kinky over time,People want more for sex then just fucking
Do you only have sex by inserting penis into vagina in missionary position with one partner your whole life in a monogamous marriage?
>Porn addicts will jerk off for a prolonged time and jerk off 3 times a day
What percentage of the population do you think this applies to? Are you speaking from personal experience?
>By it becoming more normal it causes alot of issues
Such as?
>Kinks in kids shows
Ban that then
>Cheating
Ban that then
>Taboos
Should fantasy roleplay also be banned? It sounds like you have a problem with things that have nothing to do with porn. Correlation doesn't always imply causation.
>People dont seek out sex because they can get it at home
Yeah let's ban porn and a gf will magically appear for every single guy. Incoming utopia

>>936505954
States would have to block those websites for not asking for ID anyway. Same amount of work whether you make the ID requirement client side instead of host side.

Porn isn't addictive, you guys! It just takes more of it and more extreme content to get me where I was getting 6 months ago. I have a terabyte hard drive full of pictures and videos that I've saved. I never watch them because they don't arouse me anymore, but I still keep them and keep saving anyway.

>>936505951
>Sex is becoming more and more kinky over time...
sex has always been kinky, more so where the state represses sexual freedoms.
you should check out how fucking perverted east berliners were when the wall fell.

Cognitive behavioral therapist and couples counselor here.

Porn and sex addiction are the most common stressors relationships face today. Almost exclusively males. >>936507164 this is a, snarky, but good summation of the addiction. It has fallout well beyond just jacking off too much. It puts real emotional strain on both parties. The addicts will feel shame, anxiety, and impulsiveness. The partner will feel inadequate, unappreciated, and disconnected. The combination of all of these things leads to an unhealthy relationship, and often, infidelity. There's also the financial strain. It may not be direct, like being a pay pig, but I've seen cases when men have lost jobs over looking at porn while at work.

>>936508789
Some watch it together to get closer to each other, explore kinks and make the relationship more alive so it's not like it's always some huge issue. If it is, the question that should be asked is why men feel the need to turn to it. Men have to sacrifice and perform a whole lot status wise, financially and socially to date and marry a woman. Women barely have to do much other than looking ok, be nice, cute, feminine and show up. Essentially just exist. Perhaps it's time that she puts in more effort to make things more equal and to make porn use in a relationship redundant?

It ain’t fair. My great great grandparents or whatever never had 5G and $100 12” screens

>>936509470
>Women barely have to do much other than looking ok, be nice, cute, feminine and show up. Essentially just exist.
When you have a relationship, I'll consider your stance.

lol

coomers on suicide watch

>>936510255
Which part did you disagree with exactly? Are you denying that men have to pull most of the weight, provide, impress, take the first step etc? At that point you live in a different reality

>>936512661
Men don't have to "pull the most weight". We get it, you're an incel. That stems mainly from social anxiety. You should get some therapy. Maybe then you can have a relationship with someone.

>>936513547
>You should get some therapy
and a testosterone cream x3

>>936513547
Yeah they do. Ever picked up a dating app or looked at the data comparing how easy it is for women to get a date in comparison to men? Average women get immediate matches while average men have to swipe dozens of times for a couple at best. An ugly chick could get dates while a fit attractive man might struggle. Also compare what men look for in women and vice versa and see if you think it's balanced in terms of effort required.

Can't tell if you're pretending to be retarded to provoke or if you're genuinely this detached from reality.

>>936514040
take the hooker pill and fuck off incel

>>936499092
>>936499018
we should ban businesses

>>936514522
i detect COMMUNISM

>>936514210
Stop taking the retard pill.

>>936516135
it took you one hour to answer? totally a chatbot.

>>936516185
Yeah I've got things to do. Apparently you're obsessed with misleading people in /b/ threads? Get a life faggot

>>936514040
>dating app
Lol. Fuck all the way off, incel

>>936516507
chatbot write sysdatetime

>>936498666 (OP)
Bible thumpers that think kids don't know how to use proxies

>>936516521
>more retardation
Lol. Gtfoh low iq

>>936516589
You lost anon. Give it up already. This derailment ain't gonna work.

>>936498666 (OP)
Is there a way to get around this? My gay ass state bamned pprn and i dont want to give my info to pornhub or xhamster.

>>936498666 (OP)
This is what facism looks like. They've banned some of my favorite sites and I dont know how to get around it

>>936498666 (OP)
because you need to have an objective moral compass in order to have a healthy relationship with porn

>>936518343
So what are you, are you a subject or object or what?

Also what does objective morality have to do with this being restricted in some places and not restricted in others? What does objective morality have to do with US law?

>>936506056
>american
>struggling with food
lmao, lol even.

>>936499295
You will never be able keep porn away from minors, barely any sites are even adhering to these retarded ass laws in the first place. All this bullshit does is farm your info even more

>>936519801
A lot of people get a budget of $200 a month for food, and a lot of people get less than that. A lot of people struggle with diet as well.