If god exists why is 99.99999% of the universe inaccessible to us because of the unsurvivable temperatures and the fact we can't breathe in space die immediately?

For the same reason an engine can cause something to move but if you put your hand inside the gears itll be crushed and cause horrible pain.

Only the output of a machine is the part you can interact with, the parts that make the output possible should not be interfered with.

A lesson we will soon learn as we continue to stick our hands in the machine.

>>936861096
how the hell would stepping into empty space interfere with anything? empty space doesn't do anything for the most part. why would it be okay to live on earth but floating in empty space or temporarily inhabiting any of the innumerable exoplanets be an issue?

>>936860846 (OP)
Earth is made for HUMANS

space is not made for humans.

Next question

>>936861258
theres no proof of this at all, no proof or evidence that either is made for us

>>936860846 (OP)
THINK OF GOD AS LIKE WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE THE BIG BANG!!!!!

>>936861377
nothing?

>>936860846 (OP)
This argument can be inverted: "If the probability of life existing in the Universe is so astronomically low then does it not make sense that a creator could be involved?" "If the process of making life is so common place then why is life seemingly only concentrated on Earth?". (Atheist BTW).

>>936860846 (OP)
"if" is doing an awful lot of heavy lifting in that sentence.

>>936861215
Jist because youre too simple to understand how it works, doesnt mean that its existence is without meaning.

Our atmosphere exists in the capacity that it does, allowing us to thrive, thanks to the motions of the heavens around us.

Storms, volcanic activity, the motions of night and day - all aided by celestial movements of bodies held in place by a vacuum that we cannot exist in.

Think of it as ball bearings that aid movement that spin on a small cushion of air - would you question the existence of that cushion of air and ask why interfering with it causes things to not work right?

>>936861460
>motions of the heavens
Why are new age Christians so retarded? Just double down on the bullshit you're larping as and say it was made that way

>>936861408
HOW CAN NOTHING EXIST IF ITS NOTHING?

>>936861548
so whatever became the big bang was already there existing, unless god is/became the big bang?

>>936861096
>Only the output of a machine is the part you can interact with, the parts that make the output possible should not be interfered with.
Not with regards to humans (who build these cars) who modify their cars with the requisite expertise; You do take your car(s) (or other vehicles) for yearly-checkups, right?
>>936861460
>Jist because youre too simple to understand how it works, doesnt mean that its existence is without meaning.
He never said "The Universe is without meaning", though.
>Our atmosphere exists in the capacity that it does, allowing us to thrive, thanks to the motions of the heavens around us.
The atmosphere is perfectly content with only the Sun; The atmosphere doesn't require other planets.
>Storms, volcanic activity, the motions of night and day - all aided by celestial movements of bodies held in place by a vacuum that we cannot exist in.
I thought the storm/volcano-God "Yahweh" was responsible for these phenomena. The planets (and other celestial bodies) aren't held in place by a vacuum (a lack of matter).
>Think of it as ball bearings that aid movement that spin on a small cushion of air
I'm not sure what you mean, could you explain?

>>936861377
>THINK OF GOD AS LIKE WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE THE BIG BANG!!!!!
"BEFORE" is a concept that exists within the universe, it is consequential to the existence of "time"; There is no basis for asserting that "Time existed 'before' the Big Bang".
>>936861548
>HOW CAN NOTHING EXIST IF ITS NOTHING?
That depends on what you mean by "NOTHING"'; There doesn't seem to be an "amount" of "nothing" contained within the universe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing#Science

God created the circle of the earth and divided it from the waters in the heavens.
>no, the earth is a sphere of rock, and there is no water in the heavens. no god there.
Water falls from the sky. It must be because of God
>no, water evaporates from heating of the sea, which rises, condenses, and then falls. No god there.
The sun tracks across the sky. The Sun moves around the earth. It must be because of God
>No, the earth rotates around its axis, and orbits the sun. no god there.
People get sick due to a miasma, It must be because of God
>no. germs exist. No god there
The earth was created 6000 years ago!
>no. we have dating by radioactive decay that shows the earth to be 4.5 billion years old.
God created the earth for man and put stars in the heavens, there are no other planets
>no, those "wandering stars" are in fact planets too.
but God made this solar system for us, there are no others
>no, we now have 5000+ expolanets around more than a thousand stars in the local area around sol. no god there.
but you cant explain how the stars appeared
>no, we have the Cosmic Microwave Background radiation showing the energy expansion of the universe from a singularity.
But you cant explain how the universe appeared, so it MUST BE GOD!
But there's no life on other planets, so God made it here!
<------ you are here
>Life on other planets confirmed - not quite there, but strong evidence of organic compounds seen in exoplanetary atmospheres. Yes, we've seen alien farts.
>Intelligent life discovered.
>A full model of the universe' origin to the point of singularity is completed

Those might take some time.

meanwhile: >>936861460:
>Jist [sic] because youre too simple to understand how it works,

Right buddy. we're the "simple" ones. not the people who've said "it must be god" to every question for millennia, only to be proven wrong, every time

>>936862152
>God created the circle of the earth and divided it from the waters in the heavens.
Evidence???
>Water falls from the sky. It must be because of God
Ah, you're trolling.
>People get sick due to a miasma, It must be because of God
Do you know that RFK Jr. actually believes in miasma/terrain "theory"? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_F._Kennedy_Jr.#HIV/AIDS_denialism

>>936862330
you're not very good at this reading comprehension thing, or are you colour-blind to green?

Dumb statements made by religious people since the bronze age
>Response of the reality we've observed and discovered
Dumb statements made by religious people
>response of the reality we've observed and discovered.

and so on.
Go back and read that post again slowly. Out loud if it helps.

>>936861928
"Scientists say empty space isn’t really empty. It’s got tiny bits of energy that wiggle and make little particles pop in and out really fast.Space is still doing stuff, even if we can’t see it." So this is the extent of how the Big Bang happened? I thought it want really figured out yet. In that case maybe god is beyond the Big Bang.

>>936862474
WTF are you talking about, retard? I immediately realized you were trolling; maybe you should have read my post a little further.

>>936862581
>So this is the extent of how the Big Bang happened? I thought it want really figured out yet. In that case maybe god is beyond the Big Bang.
It has nothing to do with the big bang; I was responding to "HOW CAN NOTHING EXIST IF ITS NOTHING?" from: >>936861548

>>936862586
you REALLY aren't very good at reading comprehension are you.

Let me guess. American? one of the 53% who read at the level of a 12-year old or less.

>retard
>"Trolling"

If you're too fucking dumb to comprehend what a post is, maybe you should stop calling people "retards" and go back to school and learn to process sentences more complex than "The Cat. Sat on. The Mat"

>>936861096
>>936861548
The word "Nothing" is an english term to define the absence of "anything". "Anything" is an english term to define the presence of everything. "Everything" is an english term that defines the idea of all possiblities that can exist, do exist"

Nothing exists in this context has a definition, which still creates the idea that "NOTHING" AS AN IDEA, is something, but its the absence of Everything.

You can't SEE an atom on a microcosmic level but you know its there. and if you don't you can still OBSERVE an object, and its made up of particles infinitely smaller than your eye can percieve.

You are not meant to know how the engine was created. You barley know how a car works. But it works and you drive. or you see others drive. and you know its because of the engine amongst other parts.

You know you're alive, you're not meant to fully understand how, but you know you live and die.

Go enjoy life before you die on 4chan asking stupid questions.

>>936862658
But isnt that just to the mystery of how light can travel through nothing? I meant absolute nothingness, where both light and darkness and all existentence entirely do not exist.

>>936862738
>you REALLY aren't very good at reading comprehension are you.
Why are you so over the top when I basically just said "Oh, I was actually just responding to this"? Are you compensating for your moron status? XD
So, you want me to believe that you weren't trolling??? XDDDD

>>936862841
>moron
>Trolling

you have no clue what the fuck you're saying, and instead are just raging because you like the sound of your own voice, arent you.

Tell me, what do you think >>936862152 that post is saying?

>>936862793
>But isnt that just to the mystery of how light can travel through nothing?
Yeah, but "nothingness" or "absolute nothingness" doesn't seem to exist within our universe.
>where both light and darkness and all existentence entirely do not exist.
I'm not personally sure if that's even possible (maybe it is), but maybe some physicists might have better answers.
>>936862900
Shoot some more meth up, retard.

>>936862955
>Shoot some more meth up, retard.

>I cant understand basic sentences, so I'm just going to call you a retard
Thanks for confirming that.

>>936862955
>maybe it is
That mystery is what I mean what god is.

>>936863025
You're just repeating the same mumbo jumo, retard.
>>936863047
>That mystery is what I mean what god is.
This seems like "the God of the gaps" logical fallacy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_of_the_gaps#General_usage https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Anthropomorphism

>>936863208

>>936863208
>https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Anthropomorphism
Well, I am open to call anyone creating something out of absolute nothingness a God.

>>936861420
Why create an almost infinite cosmos if this world was created just for us? It can neither benefit nor improve the lives of everything on this wretched planet. A light source and ample water is all the "creator" had to furnish but no, he had to create a big ass universe that we will never fully utilize. Was the "creator" just showing off?

>>936863363
Retard.
>>936863419
>Well, I am open to call anyone creating something out of absolute nothingness a God.
Don't you realize that when you say "anyone", you are attributing consciousness to a "thing" (or process?), and you're in essence anthropomorphising that "thing" (god of the gaps).
>>936863663
>Why create an almost infinite cosmos if this world was created just for us? It can neither benefit nor improve the lives of everything on this wretched planet.
There is an argument from beauty for the justified existence of the greater universe (in the context of a God that cares about humans that's existing): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_beauty

>>936863663
We are like amoebas or fungi, so why would a "creator" want to show off to a mere byproduct that isn't even a fraction of its creation's existence?

>>936863795
>Don't you realize
I do understand that, but it’s beyond my comprehension as of now to try and convey this conversation in a meaningful way without doing so.

>>936861258

>>936860846 (OP)
I immediately recognized this as Houston, Austin, Waco, Dallas-Ft.Worth, and New Orleans from just the thumbnail. I'd rather be able to see the stars, galaxies, and heavenly wonders at night, but all we get is shitty city lights.
God doesn't prevent us from going into space. Humans do. Nobody's letting an astronaut farmer spend his own resources to take his chances with solar flares just to grow potatoes on Mars. We used to let explorers die by the thousands to find safe passage to new unchartered lands. But I guess you can't let the slaves run away from the planetation these days.

>>936861096
This. We're sprinting towards an extinction level event, and the ones in charge right now are bending over backwards to see that our end arrives as soon as possible. I can only hope we go extinct before we are able to migrate to a new planet to rape to death

>>936864915
Literally nothing is happening and humans have nowhere near the ability to destroy a planet.

>>936860846 (OP)
Is this real?

>>936866737
The pic looks like it's from the ISS.
No, you can't breathe in space.

>>936864044
>it’s beyond my comprehension as of now to try and convey this conversation in a meaningful way without doing so.
So, are you saying you're unsure of how to model reality without a God?
>>936866778
>No, you can't breathe in space.
That depends on what you mean by "space"; Are you "in space" while in an EVA suit?

>>936860846 (OP)
I think it is called containment. much like the Sahara and Africa

>>936867295
did you mean the gobi and slant eyes?
did you mean serbia and popsicle noses

>>936867228
>That depends on what you mean by "space"
>BuT yOu CaN bReAtHe WaTeR wItH a ScUbA tAnK
No, you or some other anon asked "is this real". This has nothing to so with suits or whatever. Lay off the weed.

>>936867385
>some other anon asked "is this real".
Why did you even Write "No, you can't breathe in space."?
>This has nothing to so with suits or whatever. Lay off the weed.
I was literally asking if you are "in space" when you are on earth (you ostensibly aren't in space while on Earth), in the ISS or in an EVA suit as all situations describe someone not experiencing a vacuum.

>>936867768
Completely off topic again, logfag.

If someone is in space while in an EVA suit, why aren't they in space when in the ISS when in both situations you have an artificial atmosphere and aren't exposed to the natural conditions of space; I was literally just asking what you meant by "in space", it's really that simple...
>>936867854
>Completely off topic again, logfag.
Eustace much? actual rent-free obsession.

>>936860846 (OP)
>If god exists why the unsurvivable temperatures and the fact we can't breathe in space die immediately?

conversely, ask yourself how/why despite all events, earth is maintained in the relatively MINISCULE temperature range needed for life?

>>936860846 (OP)
Why not, are you suggesting that god is not powerful enough to create an interesting backdrop?

>>936868844
>needed for life
Just this life. There could be hotter or colder ranges for other types of life. Your point is valid though and begs the question, "Is life a fluke?'.

>>936869029
>Your point is valid though and begs the question
You don't know what "begs the question" means. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question#Definition
... and no, it doesn't have "varied meanings" or whatever.

>>936860846 (OP)
We haven't unlocked that region yet. We're 2 levels away.

>>936866702
What evidence do you have to back that up?

>>936866702
guess we all have our own opinion,
but i think we have maybe 200 years left before
we go extinct due to us shitting up the earth.

>>936860846 (OP)
God doesn't exist. It's made up stupid superstitious bullshit.

>>936861289
>theres no proof of this at all
At least one rapture has already occurred. This planet is, in fact, the place that some people from Earth (such as myself) were raptured to. We weren't "taken to Heaven." We were brought here instead. We're now on a real, physical, 3D planet that is definitely NOT Earth.

Bottom line: This planet is Bozrah, not Earth. Furthermore, the event in which Jesus destroys this planet is called "the day of vengeance." There will be no 7-year Tribulation or Antichrist here—because this isn't Earth. Earth is roughly 75,000 light years from here (and is currently going through the Tribulation). This is just an impostor planet.

Make sure to read my pinned X thread (all four posts). And regarding my X bio, I'm exactly who I say I am. Bozrah natives must break free from the spell they've been under. This entire situation has gotten so ridiculous. At this point, I'm just waiting for the day of vengeance.

Pinned X thread:

https://x.com/elitefeat/status/1742924942151438589
or
https://bozrah.info

You all seriously need to wake up. Open your eyes. You're not on Earth.

>>936873546
>200 years left before
>we go extinct due to us shitting up the earth.
If that. The current administration, and oil companies are thick as thieves. They're gonna wipe their asses with environmental protections, and butt fuck the planet into oblivion. It'll be good for the universe for us not to make it to another planet, and destroy it too tho. Good riddance

>>936860846 (OP)
Much more than that of the universe is accessible to us, because nothing can travel faster than light and the universe is also expanding faster than light. Thus, more and more of the universe becomes forever inaccessible each moment.

>>936876613
Take your meds

>>936869029
Whats a fluke? A one off event or something very unlikely to happen?
Either way, probly not/unable to know either way currently

>>936867228
>you're unsure of how
I don't think I can fully model reality with or without a God, it's just that the mystery of what happened before the Big Bang feels spiritually godlike.

>>936860846 (OP)
who's to say the majority of the universe was supposed to be habitable by us in the first place?