well

>>936988427 (OP)
Ironic, given the current situation.

>>936988427 (OP)
>needs a Simpsons meme to get the point across
Yawn

The kind of people who think having an ar15 and some grenades will stand up to a government that routinely launches unmanned drones on its enemies. These hillbillies would get wiped out by a kid with an Xbox controller

>>936989302
Yay good post, brother Ivan.

>>936989125
nasff

>>936989302
live free or die
your whole argument is "hehe look at me foolish fellow slave, i may be oppressed without hope but at least I'm alive to serve such a regime"

>>936989671
>foolish fellow slave
Someone who studied at university who works as a doctor or scientist. You think is comparable to someone who is a cashier at walmart? That explains magatards ideology

>>936989302
Can drones do door to door checks?

>we need guns to fight against tyrants
>goverment run by traitors, russians and israeli, pedophiles, attacks it's own citizens, rigs elections
>*do nothing
Having a big gun doesn't hide what's inside. You're all giant fucking pussies who'll never do shit. Gunfags just sit around and fantasize about violence but when the comes, they find excuses to not do anything

>>936989302
No, no one could stand up to the USA with drones and superior firepower

>Vietnam has entered the chat
>The Middle East has entered the chat

You say this shit because you're retarded and you don't understand that the USA hasn't been good at taking and holding land in the past 100 years. Then you don't even consider that a vast portion of the military would defect because they don't want to hurt their countrymen/family and friends. THEN you don't even consider the logistical problems of EVERY FUCKING PERSON OWNING A GUN along with topography of the country. Good luck going from building to building, down to town, hunting a populace that is armed to the teeth.

>>936988427 (OP)
You bootlicking faggots wouldn't do anything even with guns Americans kick too much fed boot.

>>936992039
Balrog

>>936991928
Why would they need to? They'll just bomb you if you go outside.

>>936992039
Gay little fantasy. In reality the military would mow down their neighbors without a second thought.

>>936994896
Yes because a government managed by explosive ordinance always works.

>>936994945
Why would they want to manage you? What value to you add to their lives?

>>936994984
Do you think they have enough drones and tanks to suppress 340 million people 24/7?

>>936995005
Why would they need to? They could easily kill 90% of the population and then suppression 34 million people. What idiotic fantasy are you living out in your head? They don't care about you. The reality of this fantasy is that they would kill you and nobody would care. You aren't an anime protagonist.

>>936995074
You vastly overestimate the power of the government and army.

>>936995074
A literal teenager wrote this.

>>936995103
>>936995125
Lol ironic. You fags think you can single handedly fight the US military, but I'm the one that's delusional? Your lives must be so sad and empty.

>>936995005
No government needs that, most people have families and steady jobs and they won't risk it, they only have to care about a small percentage, idealists and lunatics.

>>936988427 (OP)
Common sense?
Common sense should tell you that criminals are criminals precisely because they don't follow the laws. The laws, therefore, only affect people who already aren't the problem.
Banning alcohol didn't stop criminals. Banning drugs didn't stop criminals. Banning guns won't stop criminals.

>>936995158
>nobody in the country would put up resistance because they just wouldn't ok?

>>936995214
Holy shit this is huge! That means that there should be no laws at all! Only law abiding citizens follow laws so how can you make criminals follow laws!?! This is big. Bigger than anything else. Did you tell the government?

>>936995222
>NOOO! I REALLY AM AN ANIME PROTAGONIST!

>>936995158
Okay, you're clearly a leftist that lacks common sense.
If everyone has guns, it's harder for the government to seize whatever they want.
Notice the blue states that are anti gun are more chaotic? Look at the riots. Look at the crime rates (Because criminals don't care if there is a law against guns)
Crime keeps itself in check in red states because more than likely that person will have to actually have to take the risk of being shot at.
You also have this weird fantasy idea that if (somehow) a leader goes "Okay guys, go take over anon's house" and sends literally every trooop, it's not humanly possible. There will be people who would prevent that sort of order in the first place. Then you have the chain of command. Then you have the individuals who may go AWOL because they will go against orders.
There's a lot of variables at play from your imagination scenerio.
>They could easily kill 90% of the population and then suppression 34 million people
Which is not realistic. That's not even a thing.

>>936995074
>They could easily kill 90% of the population
Then they wouldn't have an economy to rule over. Even when ancient empires conquered foreign lands they didn't just slaughter everyone. Better to keep them alive and keep their civilization running so you can tax them. Exterminating 90% of your own power base would be an extremely stupid move.

>>936995278
There's millions of anime protagonists in America right this very now second.

>>936995302
Holy shit, you have no idea how right you are. Look at these fags that think I'm going to sit here reading their treatises on how they would use their Naruto jutsus to defeat the government.
>>936995291
>>936995299

>>936995327
You sound like either a woman with BPD or a 15 year old that thinks the world deserves to burn because he can't get pussy.

>>936995327
It's not our fault you don't know how to read.
You're on a site that is text. This might shock you but yeah people expect you to read words.
I told you you were a kid, this confirms it.

>>936995350
You sound like a fag that thinks a pistol and a kbar make you rambo.

>>936995359
>You didn't read my fantasy
>That means you can't read
Is this the power that will defeat the government?!?!?!

>>936995361
>>936995372
So how many times have you gotten raped?

>>936995380
I hope this sounded cooler in your head.

>>936995399
It's a genuine question.

>>936995372
I wasn't making a fantasy, I was making points you decided to ignore because you have no actual rebuttal.

>>936995404
>>936995405
>Fantasizes
>Gets called out for fantasizing
>Spergs out
Yep. You boys are going to do great in Civil War 2. The government will never know what hit them.

>>936995429
How many times, what holes, and did you enjoy it?

>>936995429
Kid I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I was respondng to YOUR fantasy scenerio about how "They could easily kill 90% of the population and then suppression 34 million people"
That's a made up scenerio, you made that up.

>>936995440
I lost count, all of them, and I did until it was over and I was your mom in a red, quivering pile on the floor.

>>936995458
You aren't aware of the governments munitions? Killing 300 million people would be trivial. Literally just the push of a button. Does that offend your sense of fair play? Tough. It's a war. They aren't going to give you a fair chance.

>>936995504
Apparently I need to repeat myself.
You made up that scenerio. That's not a real thing. You made up a fantasy.

>>936995470
>and I was
Saw*
Weird thing for autocorrect to correct.

>>936995470
Explain Vietnam. Explain the middle east, both when we invaded and all the revolutions they've had there. Explain how governments in Africa keep getting overthrown.

Explain how Ukraine has been raping Russia's ass for the past three years.

>>936995521
Lol no. You're trying to pretend it's not real because even in your fantasies you can't figure out how to survive a drone strike. You just wouldn't. All your cool plans for how you'd take down the government and all the cool things you'd say while you were doing it would die with you in that first explosion.

>>936995534
Those places where all those civilians died? I just did. You're in the pile of burning bodies with the rest of your neighbors. Why don't you read up on those wars?

>>936995562
Now you're doubling down in your fantasy scenerio while telling everyone else they're in a fantasy just because they have weapons.

>>936995327
>it makes no sense for a government to exterminate 90% of its own populace
>HURRR NARUTO JUTSU

>>936995594
And what was the end result of those wars?

>>936988427 (OP)
You second amendment retards are stuck in an echo chamber, all of you are giant glue eating soy babies falling for jingling keys. If a bunch of actual rebels were manufacturing enriched uranium to nuke the capital you wouldn't give two shits if the government took them down and disarmed them. Your guns are bread and circuses for rebel LARPers and any you wouldn't dare support someone owning a weapon that was an actual threat to the state like a nuclear warhead.

>>936995607
>>936995624
>>936995625
Holy cope! You know what, champ? Try it out. You've convinced yourselves that you're secret supersoldiers that could easily take down the government. Go get Babbited and then we'll both be happy.

>>936995636
Based

>>936995636
>You second amendment retards are stuck in an echo chamber
How is upholding the second amendment make anyone retarded?
Why would you want to have no weapons? Do you want to be robbed?

>>936995676
Tell me what happened in those conflicts.

>>936995676
You made no rebuttal in everything I have said because you're a child. You have no actual argument.
There is no logical reason why a man would give up the right to defend himself or those around him.

>>936995702
Civilians died en masse. If that happened here you would be dead.

>>936995676
Friend, just because i think you're a delusional idiot doesn't mean i have any plans of trying to topple the greatest democracy on Earth.
i won't *need* to fight the government because what you're suggesting i would be fighting against will never happen. It's stupid. You're stupid.

>>936995720
And what else happened?

>>936995720
people die all the time in cities. i'm still alive.

>>936995717
Why do you think your comment deserved a rebuttal? Because you said it? You've got main character syndrome bad.

>>936995730
>>936995732
Lol. Cope!

>>936995735
Because you're clearly just shitposting saying retarded shit only a teenager says and then acts shocked when you're getting BTFO with facts.

>>936995722
>i won't *need* to fight the government because what you're suggesting i would be fighting against will never happen
>But if I did have to I would totally win
Sad and pathetic

>>936995749
Cope what? We already know you're just wanting attention. No real adult thinks like you do unless they're mentally ill or a leftist.

>>936995749
What cope? Why can't you tell us what else happened during those conflicts?
Do you think the government just killed a bunch of civilians for fun?

>>936995757
The irony of this post is staggering. How else would you defeat the US military, Mr not-a-teenager?

>>936995763
Why would you go into a fight hoping you'd lose?
What the fuck kind of logic is that?

guns are a necessary evil

>>936995771
>>936995773
If I'm just doing this for attention then you're getting trolled to hell and back while I rack up 3 (you)s per post which means I'm winning. Did you think admitting your loss would make make me feel bad or something?

>>936995780
Why would I need to defeat the military in the first place? You never stated the reason WHY they would be coming or why they would be ordered to in the first place.
Because your scenerio is retarded.

>>936995763
Successful troll is successful, i'll give you that.
But strawmanning is the weakest form of argument. Still, you have a constitutional right to be a dumbass.
Have fun trolling these other guys, imma go make a sandwich.

>>936995811
Tell me the result of those wars.

>>936995790
The logic of you and your faggy friends ITT. Do you read your own posts?

>>936995811
You know real men don't act like you are right?
Getting trolled doesn't mean anything besides you're a loser. That's not on me, that's you openly admitting you can't behave like a grown man. You're probably not very bright.

>>936995812
I don't care to speculate. You dags made up the fantasy.

>>936995826
Civilians died en masse. Guess what your fate would have been?

>>936995847
I replied to your fantasy you obnoxious shitposting retard.

>>936995856
Who the fuck cares if I would have died? Tell me what happened to those countries.

>>936995822
>>936995837
Cope harder.

>>936991816
you are a chuck,a mangina if you will

>>936995860
Lol that's not true. Here's the fantasy >>936988427 (OP)
>>936989671
>>936991928
>>936992039

>>936995876
Cope what? Why would we need to cope with the fact you're not as bright as you think you are?
You're just a loser shitposting on a Saturday morning.
Go outside, fucking hell.

>>936995873
It directly contradicts your fantasy where you kill the government. Reflect on that instead of committing to the super cool "I don't care if I die to save democracy" bit

>>936995904
How is that a fantasy? Do you even know what fantasy means?
You're a leftist so I doubt you do since you looney tune mother fuckers thinks a dude can be a chick.

>>936995921
Lol cope harder.

>>936995935
Not everyone is as spineless as you are.

>>936995942
Wow. You're further gone than I thought.

>>936995935
I don't have a fantasy where I kill the government. I wouldn't be fighting no matter what happens.
Tell me what happened to those countries in those conflicts.

>>936995968
I'm surprised you even think considering you can't handle debating with actual adults.

>>936995961
Uh huh. Sure, kid. I don't even care to condescend to you anymore.

>>936995986
Yet here you are.

>>936995972
>>936995983
>actual adults
Lol! Lmao even! Adults do not fantasize about how the government couldn't kill them if they tried. Adults don't need to pretend that they're Superman.

>>936996020
You're right, I'm not fantasizing about it because I wouldn't do it retard. Now explain what happened in Vietnam and tell me who won that war.

>>936996020
No one but you keeps mentioning that because you're a loser on a Saturday morning shitposting because daddy didn't give you enough attention.

>>936996041
The Viet Cong used their heat vision to destroy all the American tanks that were bulldozing the rainforest and then America ran out of tanks and money and everyone clapped.

>>936996074
And who won that war?

>>936996069
Is that why you're doing it? That makes this make perfect sense.

>>936996090
America. Our goal was to stop the spread of communism, which we accomplished at the cost of a few million drones.

>>936988427 (OP)
Sounds about right.
Remember, they won’t come outright and take your guns, they are going to convince you to turn them over.

>>936995636
brmposisoafshwadfcbsl

>>936996091
I'm not the attention starved manchild trying to shitpost and being obnoxious on purpose because he can't handle socializing like some social autist.

>>936996101
Wow, a leftist that thinks we won in Vietnam.

>>936996117
Are you sure?

>>936988427 (OP)
>>936996102

>>936996130
America won Vietnam. Americans lost Vietnam. It's insane that you don't understand the distinction.

>>936996131
You think rational sane men come on the internet on a Saturday morning and shitposts for no reason besides begging for attention?
We're grown past that point in life. You can't even handle a rational conversation because you're not mature.
You're a manchild.

>>936996146
It's amazing that you don't want to admit the most technologically advanced army at the time got their anuses turned into tube socks by a bunch of commie farmers with WW2 era weaponry.

>>936996174
That not true.

>>936996168
You don't own a mirror, do you?

>>936996216
I have done nothing but state facts and reply to a made up scenerio.
You are the one sitting here acting like a literal child who can't handle real adult conversation because it goes against your liberal programming. You're brainwashed.

>>936996202
Yes it is, the army is not invulnerable and can get folded by a bunch of malnourished chinks.
I don't know why thinking the government and army is some sort of immortal unbeatable machine is vital to your mental stability but it's going to be fun to see what happens when that thought gets its shit pushed in.

>>936996288
You are completely divorced from reality.

>>936996334
Explain how we "won" in Vietnam then.

>>936996269
I get it. You just lack the capacity for introspection.

>>936996334
NTA but he's right, there are times armies have went against direct orders. That's not some sort of mystery.

>>936996347
Based on what? I have said nothing to even give you that impression. You can't handle real conversation because you're not mature.

>>936988427 (OP)
But aren't Conservatives militarizing law enforcement and, right now, using it against their political opponents?

>>936996342
Because the goal was to prevent the Vietnamese government from becoming communist. That's it. That was the whole goal. We didn't care how many lives it cost to accomplish that goal and we accomplished that goal. We're Zap Brannegan fighting the killbots. Lives don't matter as long as the US accomplishes it's goals.

>>936988894
Illegal aliens do not have the right to be here.

>>936996427
How can we be militarizing law enforcement if the reason is leftist can't handle people are just doing their jobs and upholding the law from people who break it?

>>936996365
Based on your posts.

>>936996446
Ok cool so I guess the CPV isn't real then.

>>936996353
And there are times the US has deployed the military against it's own civilians and there were no complaints.

>>936996483
This is coming from the immature shitposter. You really think I would take what you say seriously?

>>936996502
Well yeah, because the military needs to be called when you have people preventing law enforcement from doing their duty.

>>936996484
This is probably the stupidest post ITT

>>936996533
Why? Do you think the Communist Party of Vietnam isn't real?

>>936996514
Holy shit, but a mirror.

>>936996530
Lick more boot, cuck

>>936989302
What's it like being a total fucking retard?

>>936996446
Vietnam is a one-party communist government to this day, idiot.

>>936996502
Timothy McVeigh's bombing was in direct response to the military's deployment against civilians.

>>936996334
Vietnam was a textbook example of the limits of military power. It doesn't matter if every aspect of your technology is superior or even if you win every single battle, if the entirety of a nation's people don't want you there and are willing to die to a man to kick you out you aren't staying there.
The past 120 years has displayed this theme on repeat, trying to argue against it goes beyond mere ignorance: it is supremely delusional and a waste of everyone's time. That it wastes our time is the only reason it would be brought up, so congrats you did it. You won't waste more of my time but I'm guessing plenty more anons will fall for this obvious bait thread.

>>936996597
Unlike your leftist traitors, I do believe society needs law and order.
Stopping people from removing criminals is unacceptable no matter how you look at it.

>>936996552
Do they control the government? Why post if you're just going to say stupid shit?

>>936996642
They are the government retard.

>>936996621
None of that is true

>>936996633
Conservatives are mindbroken

>>936996718
Oh I get it. Your hopes and dreams of a communist utopia in America were crushed and now you have to maintain a fatalistic and hopeless world view to cope, otherwise you'd do something stupid.

>>936996718
So you think it's okay to have people openly breaking the law and you don't see the consequences for that?

>>936988427 (OP)
the political opponents are school shooters?

I just wanted to say, the communist revolution is possible, you could be the one to lead it, and after it's done you'd still be equally as miserable and effectively nothing would have changed from the perspective of the average man other than everything getting marginally worse while also being forced to work at a job he hates even more than the one he had under capitalism.

You can not escape yourself.

>>936997039
Kek, sounds like a big No Thanks.

>>936996718
This commie faggot has been arguing in every /pol/ thread on /b/ for a couple days now, how many times do I have to see you get BTFO before you understand that communism is garbage?

>>936997103
Because leftist have been told that communism would "cure" the poor problem.