I'm not a Jewish member of Mossad'd disinformation squad, I'm just a red-blooded American who loves Sarah Silverman and I am here to tell you that the Palestinians are fucking welfare-babies, they produce nothing useful or good, they whine and suck off the teat of the west, no other Arabs like them or care about them, and a free state of Palestine would instantly be the worst country in the world. So all of you brainwashed faggots sperging out about Free Palestine are missing the point. There never was going to be a Free Palestine. Since 1948 it's only been a matter of time. No western nation actually wants a Palestinian state. If Trump plays a part in pushing Palestinians out of Gaza it will be the one good thing he does as president.

>>937583641 (OP)
Here's my take on it: Palestinians have had multiple chances to have their own state via peace treaties, but they refuse since they will not ever acknowledge Israel's right to exist. So no real sympathy from me.

>>937583750
It's an accurate take, I think.

>>937583641 (OP)
The Jews suck out more of our tax dollars than the Palestinians ever would. So fuck the Jews and free Palestine.

>>937583830
The US commitment to Israel is $3.3 Billion with an additional $8B since the war started. In contrast the US has given $175B to Ukraine in the last three years, so your spergy statistic is sperg.

>>937583750
Does Israel have a right to exist? I say it doesn't. Should any country accept it when a bigger country kicks you out of your country to replace you with a bunch of immigrants? Of course not. So would should the Palestinians accept it? We have to start from a common ground: do unto others what you want done to you.
So if you wouldn't like to be replaced, you shouldn't force it on others.

>>937583994
>moving the goalpost
>whataboutism
I'm pro-Russia so that argument is moot. Both Israel and Ukraine should not get our tax dollars.

>>937584003
That's a great freshman year analysis of "fairness" in global diplomacy, but the Israelis were not a "bigger country" they were a bunch of fucking refugees. The US and Britain wanted them to go away. The entire Arab world mounted three wars to drive them out and they got their asses handed to them three times.

>>937584120
>That's a great freshman year analysis of "fairness" in global diplomacy,
"Do unto others as you want done to you" is a foundational Christian tenet, but is also found in Confucianism and Buddhism. The West is ethically and culturally Christian. Don't like it? Gtfo.
>The US and Britain wanted them to go away.
That was the bigger country I was talking about. And you're moving the goalpost again. You're a Jew. It's all over the way you argue. I don't care about other people. I'm talking about MY values. I am against anything that goes against my Christian values and forcefully displacing people goes against my Christian values. Judaism is not compatible with Western values. That is a hard fact of life. The Palestinians, as a people, are more similar to us. They represent the Irish struggle against Brittish colonialism which is why many Irish are pro-Palestine.

>>937584311
Many Palestinians are also Christians and the Muslims at least believe in Jesus while the Jews rejected him and make fun of him in the Talmud.

>>937583750
why should they do that lol

>>937584120
they weren't just a bunch of refugees it was an intentional settler colony set up and armed by western europe, and the arab states lost because they couldn't compete with that kind of military assistance

>>937584003
>any country
Palestine isn't a country and wasn't one in 1947.

>>937583994
$3.3B is the annual contribution to Israel each year, not including the "emergency aid" they've sent in the past 2 years and the money spent on military intervention.

Ukraine is at war with Russia, the largest country in the world, with a GDP of $2Trillion and nuclear armaments. Russia is 28x the size of Ukraine, with millions of military forces available.

Israel is 60x bigger than the Gaza strip, with 4x the population, and they are one of the most powerful militaries in the world with nuclear armaments. The Gaza strip has no air force, navy, heavy armor, inaccurate rockets, and no formal command hierarchy. Also, half of Gaza's population is under 18.

So if you want to compare dollar for dollar, sure, Ukraine is getting more. But one country is fighting a war, the other one is killing kids.

>>937584645
Look at the lives they have today.
They would have been infinitely better off taking the deals that were offered to them.

>>937583641 (OP)
>why don't those concentration camp prisoners get a job
You'll be gased first kike

>>937585012
Give me your house or you'll suffer & it'll be your own fault for not simply giving me your house. Simple as

>>937585068
But what if it never really was my house in the first place?
What then?

>>937583641 (OP)
Okay Shlomo

>>937584945
The land was called Palestine for centuries, and is labeled such on every map before 1948. They had their own airport, and currency and there was an established Palestinian national identity. Now over 140 countries recognize Palestine diplomatically.

>>937585102
It was mine because I wrote a book that said so & the US gave me nukes. Give it up or face the consequences

>>937584945
You're splitting hairs, because you're desperate. I can replace "country" with "peoples or "region" and the argument would remain equally valid. So stop the tap dancing.

>>937585102
I'm coming with bulldozers. If you get run over you were asking for it. Also, if you leave so you don't get run over you've voluntarily given it to me

>>937585012
>>937585012
Are you implying that the Zionist regime wouldn't have expanded their settlements had a peace deal succeeded? How brainwashed are you?

>>937585102
Now you're being retarded. The idea that all Palestinians are Arabs is false. A lot are Jews who converted to Christianity and later Islam. They have more right to the land, because they didn't flee to Europe and the Americans. They stayed and tended to their land for thousands of year while these Zionists left.

>>937585232
>I can replace "country" with "peoples or "region" and the argument would remain equally valid.
I assume you mean the same claim the Jews had to the area thousands of years ago?

>>937583641 (OP)
I hate everyone involved in the conflict and wish the worst outcome for all parties involved.

>>937585614
You're comparing apples with oranges. The "Jews" got conquered and left Israel. Whatever claim they had ended there. Of those who stayed some followed Roman rule and converted to Christianity and some stayed Jewish. They lived together in peace for thousands of years, but then the European Jews, who gave up their claim to the land, wanted to come back and decided to forcefully expel the original inhabitants of the land.
So, no. If your argument hinges on an historical claim, then you've already lost. And I don't know if you've noticed it, but Zionists and Orthodox Jews can drink eachother's blood. Zionism is blasphemous to those who follow real Judaism, because creating a Jewish state before the arrival of the Messiah is a violation of Jewish law. But you wouldn't know that, because you don't care about history. You only care about the talking points. Jews, the real Jews, are not on your side.

>>937584945
israel wasn't a country in 1946. So you must consider them both illegitimate

>The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine Paperback - September 1, 2007 / by Ilan Pappe
https://files.catbox.moe/7b1yhx.pdf
No excuses for you faggots to be this ignorant unless you're a zio.

>>937588271
I just downloaded that to check it out. Will my centrifuges spin too fast now?

>>937583641 (OP)
this is the most jewish post i've ever seen