Being a mid guy is the ultimate blackpill in life. It's worse than being ugly. Know why? Because ugly guys get pity. Ugly guys also usually develop a personality that somewhat makes up for their ugly looks. They tend to know how to entertain people better than mid guys do. When you're a mid guy, you grow up being told you look good and being told you're ugly. It fucks with your confidence in life because you don't know how people perceive you in public. Ugly guys don't have to worry about that because most ugly guys tend to be self-aware of their ugliness. That's why ugly guys work on their personality and how people view their behavior than looks. Ever notice how ugly guys tend to have a better sense of humor in life? Mid guys are usually dull, try to force a stoic personality but it ends up making them look like cringe incels. As a mid guy, you're never going to be seen as attractive enough to get with an attractive girl or cute twink. At the same time, a mid girl might be more likely to choose an ugly guy with a personality over you. For two reasons, an ugly guy would be better at making a woman feel comfortable and entertain her. And the woman would feel better knowing her boyfriend is an ugly dude, so she wouldn't have to worry about him cheating on her.

>>937629773 (OP)
Ugly guys are only truly happy when they settle for mid guys.

>Truth Nuke

>>937629865
I don't want to get with an ugly guy. I want a cute twink.

>>937629773 (OP)
i've seen this but very rarely mind you, mid guys getting with very attractive women or femboys. the thing about the gay community is there's not a lot of attractive tops. like you really don't see 8/10 and up guys with a fit body and decent face be gay. if you're a mid guy but you're tall, you'll do pretty good in the gay community. bonus points if you're white. when it comes to mid guys with attractive women, there's a lot of mentally ill women out there no matter the look. this is why you see pretty white girls with ugly ass niggers.

>>937630414
and if you are just looking to bang someone, you can get it by reading females and manipulating them .... not the bs that these coaches teach you. Learn what people want to hear. Was able to fuck an lecturer using that.

Hey there! I'm a 21-year-old girl from the US, a bit on the playful side, and I absolutely love getting a little wild with my chats. One of my favorite things is teasing guys until they can't take it anymore – it's such a rush to see how far I can push them while I'm having a blast too. I'm super into late-night conversations and keeping the vibe hot. I do struggle with a bit of anxiety, so meeting people out and about is a no-go for me. That's why I'm all about those spicy chats instead! If you're interested in joining the fun, hit me up on that app where we can share all our naughty thoughts: l un-as t-i-v q (just make sure to remove the spaces and dashes!). Looking forward to some steamy convos with you!

>>937630583
story? what do you look like and what did the lecturer look like? thing is a lot of women nowadays are starting to "catch on" to manipulative guys. like they're calling guys "performative males" for dressing and acting a certain way. does that stop the women from still being attracted to them? no, because they're whores. but basically you have a lot more guys competing with each other in how they can manipulate women.

>>937630668
Kill yourself you worthless subhuman curry eating street shitting indian

>>937629773 (OP)
>>937629865
>>937630414
>>937630668
>>937630686
>>937630713

This couldn't be more true than that.

I'm cute and good looking according to them but when i approach them i get called ugly and weird.

This year school, there were those two chicks and they kept harrassing me and calling me cute. One day they approached me, they said they wanted to set me up with their girl friend, i checked and it was an ugly foid. i told them wasn't interested, they proceeded to call me gay and overall moral shaming me, i genuinly thought that because they kept harrassing me and calling me cute that they were be into me, so tried to come up with a cool response and said:

> "why are you showing me that thing when i have a fat ass right in front of me"

They got mega pissed off.

> You think you're the shit you ugly virgin fuck.

> You're fucking fagging ugly pervert how dare you saying that.

Keep in mind these were the same chicks stalking me and calling me cute.

I swear to god foids are very sadistic to average men, they know damn well you're ugly, but they keep gassing you up and giving and fake sense of hope, and when you think they're into you they give you the meanest sucker punch renig you've never had.

I had so many cases like this, i am 18, still a virgin loser and i can definetly confirm and that its over for me, i will never approach a woman ever again.

They naturally selected at 12, she knew it and she was just playing with her incel prey like leopards playing with an already screwed zebra.

>>937630983
*They naturally selected at me 12, they knew it and they kept playing with an already screwed incel to make SURE we shatter his hopes once and for all.

>>937630686
to me:
i have a hard time rating myself. If i look at myself in the mirror i think i am an ugly fucking piece of shit ... really female traits in my face, babyface, i would look like a pedo if i wouldnt have a beard. Some girls called me handsome on tinder. I guess it is based of brain damage that causes bad taste.
But the positive aspects are that you can clearly see that i work out 5 times a week and i am 6.4 so pretty tall.

the lecturer was an immigrant from iran, but a solid 6.5/10. If i wanted to bang someone i would go down to 3.5/10, but only the lower ones if it takes no effort. If you are blonde you will have an easier time hitting on non-native girls. In my country native girls try too look like a 2/10 cutting their hair short when hitting 30 and becoming fat after some time.

Yeah men are competing in terms of manipulating but a lot of have a moral compass which is totally stupid. I she wants to hear you are after something serious ? Tell Her that. If she wants an alpha male, pretend to be one (really will backlash after she sees you interacting with other guys, so make sure you bang her first).

>>937629773 (OP)
I have a solution for you.

And its name, is JJOOOOHHHHNNNNN CCCEEEEENNNNNAAAA.
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>>937630983
>18
>thinks it's over for being a virgin
Nigga the average guy loses their virginity in their mid 20s now. And besides, having that mindset is just putting pussy on a pedestal and giving women more power. There's gonna come a point in time when you realize beating off is better than wasting months on a bitch buying her shit all the time just to be rewarded with mediocre 5 minute sex.

>There's gonna come a point in time when you realize beating off is better than wasting months on a bitch buying her shit all the time just to be rewarded with mediocre 5 minute sex.

Oh i do don't worry about it, which is why i will NEVER interact with them ever again.

What they did to me was very psychopathic and vicious and i wouldn'tbe surprised if that stalking thing had a bigger rabbit than just renig, they actually wanted to shatter me after giving me a fake ascending rope.

I wouldn't be surprised if i'm a MK ultra test or something.

>>937631442
>>937631592

>>937630414
Can confirm this is true in the LGBT community. I'd be seen as a mid guy to attractive women, but to attractive twinks and femboys I'm above average. Most tops are middle aged pervert "daddy" types that can only get bussy by paying for it. A lot of cute twinks and femboys out there want a decent looking bf, but most of their picks are the middle aged perverts or fat ugly chris-chan phenotype dudes. As a mid guy in that community you're practically seen as a 8/10.
>i have a hard time rating myself. If i look at myself in the mirror i think i am an ugly fucking piece of shit
See I don't know what to believe about my attractiveness. I look in the mirror and actually think I'm a handsome guy, and when I get on dating apps I get likes and matches from people I think are attractive. It's when I look at myself in the phone camera with the selfie reversed is when I think I'm pretty ugly. I don't know if it's true or not. I hear a lot of people think the same way of themselves when they see themselves reversed, but I've also heard that a mirror is actually the more accurate way people would see you.

>>937631701
Meant to reply to >>937631075 at the start of the greentext

>>937629773 (OP)
who's OP pic? he's fucking beautiful

>>937631890
Cameron Hill on tiktok

>>937630983
Girls start sexually sorting themselves out at age 8. They already know who the queens are at that point

>>937631727
ah the mirror lies, but your selfie_cam also kindof lies because it catches you in a perspective noone will ever see you.

Getting likes on tinder is a pretty good sign of beeing attractive. If you are straight and getting likes from girls on a regular basis ... it is even better.

>>937630983
I've had a personality mindset that I developed fairly recently about women. It's when you see a case on the internet of a guy beating the shit out of a woman. Instead of think "wow that guy needs to be locked up" I think "what did she do to make him do that".

>>937631949

This man gets starts getting naturally ousted sexually and ages normies finds as taboo to even talk about it.

I was one them.

and that case also happened in middle school for me hell even in elementary i got mocked at and sucker punched for this.

>>937632047
I'm bisexual. It's a mixed bag with the likes I get from women. I can get likes from the alt girl type who has a good looking body and pretty face, but I'll never get likes from the preppy white girl with a fit body who was probably a cheerleader in school and she looks really wealthy. I feel like that has to more with the fact that even though I'm not ugly, by no means am I a Chad with a good income. When it comes to the gay side I can pretty consistently get likes from cute twinks and femboy that almost look as attractive as OP's pic.

>>937632100
THIS

fortunetly i'm not a bitch either and did man up so many times against chicks.

I remember some arab chick was harrrassing me and yelling at me in middleschool so i beat the shit out her.

Keep in mind the girls already saw me as a reject but instead of using a reason to shame me for existing they just soccially tried to fuck me over, so this fight i had with that chick was enough of an excuse to cast me out of their love/sex market.


Moral fagged in middle school by the same whores who gave head to freshmen sportballers in highschool and middle school scumbags keep in mind.

>>937629773 (OP)
>Ugly guys also usually develop a personality that somewhat makes up for their ugly looks
Incredibly false. Crying pissbaby is not a personality which makes up for being ugly.
I'm average and there is some truth in what you're saying but a lot of insecure asspulls too.

>>937632047
if you get a friend to stand next to you in front of a mirror and you ask them if you look the same to his face versus how they see you in the mirror, they'll most likely say yes. I generally think the way you see yourself in the mirror is how people will also see you.

In a society that caters to the weak and whatnot,hot girls settle for ugly guys and filthy niggers thinking hot guys will eventually get all the trickle down economics.


The problem
Is when every girl gets comfortable and thinks that way , then all the resources surprisingly will
Go to the girl’s lazy attitude . Cause UGLIES will always bow down and make her life easier. This catch ends up
Puttin the guys they truly want at a dissadvantge. Hot guys aren’t born to be forgotten because he is a hot girl’s number 1 pick. But that’s what happens when she opts out for the easy way out.


Tremendous consequences will ensue.

YOU DO NOT CHEAT LIFE of your Civic duties and get out of it sucker
Free.

So behtchez better create leverage and go for the men they want beyond the comfort of what mid suckers provide and the inferior latter.

>>937632177
>>937632100

CORRECTION*

This

men gets starts getting naturally ousted sexually at ages normies finds as taboo to even talk about it.

I was one them.

and that case also happened in middle school for me hell even in elementary i got mocked at and sucker punched for this.

Women will make stuff like this and wonder why more younger guys are turning gay. Women think you aren't allowed to develop your own personality, because if you do you're seen as "performative" or "manipulator". And when you develop a personality that isn't one of these, you're not popular and therefore a weirdo or outcast.
>>937632606
It boils down to power balance. Women HATE getting with men they can't control. An attractive guy who knows he's attractive has all the power in the world in the sexual market. Women always need to be with a guy that they convinced he's "lucky" to be with her.

>>937632854
read my last message.


this: >>937630983

BUMP

>>937629773 (OP)
I want to fuck his mouth

>>937632854
Hate how I can't like Deftones now because some chronically online foids think I'm a male manipulator for liking it

>>937630983
Th'fuck you talking about. When women get cunty just say "you're going to have to do better than that to see my fat dick" and laugh in their faces when they sperg out.