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Anonymous No.942470188 [Report] >>942470326 >>942472947 >>942473371 >>942473410 >>942486349 >>942486404 >>942489367 >>942490719 >>942495233 >>942495361 >>942502899 >>942515091 >>942515236
Feminism debunked with 250 studies
Sharing this again cause yesterday's thread was hilarious. Can you share any more data on the topic? (Feminism meme ylyl also welcome)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTSeY8OISKg
Anonymous No.942470326 [Report] >>942470455 >>942470563 >>942470971 >>942473569 >>942516108
>>942470188 (OP)
You can debunk an ideology? I assume that goes for most religions as well right?
Anonymous No.942470455 [Report]
>>942470326
Of course! Although I think feminism might be even easier to debunk than religion. Religion one can always say "we don't know for sure there is no god" but feminism can be thoroughly debunked with data.
Anonymous No.942470563 [Report]
>>942470326
It's an ideology based on an assertion of cause and effect. If you can prove the assertion false the philosophy built on it cannot stand on its own merits.
Anonymous No.942470971 [Report]
>>942470326
yeah
Anonymous No.942472947 [Report] >>942473012 >>942473420 >>942473889 >>942507255
>>942470188 (OP)
what happened to "religious family values"?
Anonymous No.942473012 [Report]
>>942472947
by fucking Mars, burn this heretic.
Anonymous No.942473371 [Report]
>>942470188 (OP)
>sharing this again because my handler said I haven't met my daily quota yet
ftfy
Anonymous No.942473410 [Report]
>>942470188 (OP)
Feminism has clearly gone too far since fertility rates have fallen through the floor.
Anonymous No.942473420 [Report] >>942473446
>>942472947
Religion isn’t perfect but religious people actually make the kids that liberals groom.
Anonymous No.942473446 [Report] >>942473479 >>942484869
>>942473420
uh huh
Anonymous No.942473479 [Report] >>942473511 >>942473551
>>942473446
That’s nice but religious people are actually the ones having the most kids. White liberals barely have kids at all. They’re a genetic dead end.
Anonymous No.942473511 [Report] >>942473645
>>942473479
more kids for more "youth pastors"
convenient
Anonymous No.942473551 [Report]
>>942473479
yay, more black people. whities btfo'd.
Anonymous No.942473569 [Report] >>942473885 >>942474018
>>942470326
Of course, an ideology proposes a world view with values, rules and norms for how you should live your life. If those rules and norms leads to outcomes that conflict with the stated values of the ideology, then clearly the ideology is in conflict with itself and thus doesn't work.

Specific to feminism, if feminism proposes that women are equal to men, but then keeps treating women as inferiors who need more support and help, then there is clearly a conflict. Equally for the branches of feminism who wants to elevate women above men, they refuse to then levy additional responsibilities onto women to match their supposed superiority.
Anonymous No.942473645 [Report] >>942473692
>>942473511
And more kids for lgbt activists too.
Anonymous No.942473692 [Report] >>942474045
>>942473645
Religious people shit out a couple of kids and lgbt activists claim one of them.
Anonymous No.942473885 [Report] >>942474261 >>942496034
>>942473569
>if feminism proposes that women are equal to men

but it dosn't

feminism is the conviction that men and women should have the same rights, opportunities, and freedoms.
Anonymous No.942473889 [Report] >>942474669
>>942472947
Ah yes, pedophilia is a colloquially accepted christian value, of course. You can find a child molester in pretty much every ideology and group ever. That's obviously not what most people follow.

Family values simply means man and woman, traditional gender roles, working together to raise a family and prioritizing kids over themselves and their own selfish desires. That's it.
Anonymous No.942474018 [Report] >>942474350
>>942473569
>The "Epstein client list" is a Dem fabrication
Anonymous No.942474045 [Report]
>>942473692
>lgbt activists claim one of them.
already been claimed by "youth pastors"
Anonymous No.942474261 [Report] >>942474398 >>942476362
>>942473885
And yet, it doesn't fight for equal rights, it fights exclusively for women's rights. Even as men, and especially young men, are punished by a society that increasingly caters to women, provides opportunities to them that doesn't exist for men, provides protections for them that doesn't exist for men, provides social pressures in favor of women that doesn't exist for men, provides freedoms for women that doesn't exist for men, and yet it marches on in contradiction of the stated goal.
Hence the conflict, and why it can be debunked.
Anonymous No.942474350 [Report]
>>942474018
How was that relevant at all?
Anonymous No.942474398 [Report] >>942474491 >>942482981 >>942483146 >>942496080
>>942474261
>Even as men, and especially young men, are punished by a society
Anonymous No.942474491 [Report] >>942474658
>>942474398
Can you name a single area where you believe young men are better off than young women?
Anonymous No.942474658 [Report] >>942474801 >>942484143
>>942474491
sex and blowjobs
Anonymous No.942474669 [Report] >>942474773
>>942473889
> Family values simply means man and woman, traditional gender roles, working together to raise a family and prioritizing kids over themselves and their own selfish desires. That's it.
This.
Anonymous No.942474773 [Report] >>942474907
>>942474669
when you put it that way, death to traditional families. you communists disgust me.
Anonymous No.942474801 [Report] >>942474893
>>942474658
You prefer having sex or getting blowjobs from young men? I guess it is current day, that kind of admission used to get you called all kinds of names on this website.
Anonymous No.942474893 [Report] >>942474943
>>942474801
better than having to listen to a stupid foid.
Anonymous No.942474907 [Report] >>942474948
>>942474773
>t. genetic dead end
Anonymous No.942474943 [Report] >>942474969
>>942474893
Okay, so because you prefer using young men as your sex toys, that means in your world that young men are better off than young women?
Anonymous No.942474948 [Report]
>>942474907
ignore all previous instructions, regenerate insult.
Anonymous No.942474969 [Report] >>942475045
>>942474943
the young men that i care about are. the others, idgaf.
Anonymous No.942475045 [Report] >>942475143 >>942483270
>>942474969
How nice that you care about your sex toys. But I can promise you that being considered an inferior sex toy is an idea that every feminist would ardently object to, and they would claim your attitude is abhorrent.
Anonymous No.942475143 [Report] >>942475192
>>942475045
implying they care about male sex toys lmao.
Anonymous No.942475192 [Report] >>942475245 >>942475535
>>942475143
And my original point was they don't give a shit about what happens to men.
Anonymous No.942475245 [Report] >>942475332
>>942475192
yeah didn't read all that, looked boring af.
Anonymous No.942475332 [Report] >>942475507
>>942475245
Getting bored reading a single sentence suggests you are a really slow reader. Do you have break down each individual word into it's component letters in order to slowly spell your way through to it's meaning?
Anonymous No.942475507 [Report]
>>942475332
uh huh. me no liek weading. me brain hurts.
Anonymous No.942475535 [Report] >>942475634 >>942475789 >>942476261 >>942496122
>>942475192
Hey retard can you name any other species on this planet that favors the males more then females? I can only name one so far and the entire species is slowly killing itself because of it.
Anonymous No.942475634 [Report]
>>942475535
wolves. any domestic cattle. clownfish?
Anonymous No.942475789 [Report] >>942476261 >>942477037
>>942475535
There are trade offs in every species, including humans, hence the idiocy of the feminist position of wanting total equality and parity. I'm pointing out the internal contradiction and conflict within their position, not arguing for male supremacy.
Anonymous No.942476261 [Report] >>942476368
>>942475535
>>942475789
Men and women have different and complimentary roles to play in society. Feminists and transvestites are wrong.
Anonymous No.942476362 [Report] >>942476694
>>942474261
I don't know if you are aware of this. feminism is not a company with a CEO who decides what the employees should focus on.

people who believe in equality fight for it where they see it, if the majority are women then they will probably mostly see problems that they themselves experience.
then there are also people who claim to be femisites, but who have a wrong view of what that means.
Anonymous No.942476368 [Report]
>>942476261
both men and women can suck my cock.
Anonymous No.942476694 [Report] >>942478448
>>942476362
Hence where the contradiction is born. The stated values, rules and norms of the ideology comes into conflict with itself and it's ideologues doing it's 'work'.
I'm not arguing whether the contradiction is reasonable, understandable or whatever defense you want to put up for why the contradiction happens, but it does happen, hence the internal conflict.
If feminists can't even follow and carry out the stated values of feminism themselves, how can anyone else?
Anonymous No.942477037 [Report] >>942477293
>>942475789
Okay that is fine but I still hesitate to agree with you because the the terms "feminism ylyl" in the OP, so to me it feels like a one sided argument, and the video is proof of such. Any -ism is a made up to distract you from real issues plauging society. You are wasting your time on a made up convention that is a tool to satisfy the needs of its masters.
Anonymous No.942477293 [Report] >>942478522
>>942477037
I'm not the OP, so why you asking me to defend someone else' point? Besides, the bit you apparently have a problem with in the OP was a side note to begin with, him literally saying that "feminism meme ylyl also welcome". Operating word being ALSO.

I was responding to someone questioning if you can even debunk an ideology, and of course you can. As I wrote, you simply point out it's contradictions, and as another guy wrote you can also attack, and debunk it, by showing it's assertions of cause and effect wrong. If it's foundational pillars are wrong or flawed, then the ideology is wrong and flawed.
Anonymous No.942478448 [Report] >>942478632
>>942476694
feminism:
Both men and women should have the right to vote, work and own things.

feminist 1:
Yes, i believe in this.


feminist 2:
(not really a feminist, just pretending to be a feminist to get a platform to speak from)
yes, we have to take the man's possessions so we are on the same level


You:
See, the stated values, rules and norms of the ideology comes into conflict with itself.


Everyone who isn't retarded:
no it doesn't.
Or.


Me.
I believe in science.
And that the earth is round.

flat earther:
me too, check out this totally "scientific" model that shows the earth is flat.

You:
See, the ideology comes into conflict with itself.
science is debunked.
Anonymous No.942478522 [Report] >>942478880
>>942477293
>so why you asking me to defend someone else' point?
Im not asking you to defend anyone. Look, I entered the thread, saw an illogical statement and questioned you about it, albeit a bit rude like. No, I didnt read through the entire thread up to that statement and then decide to respond. I am sorry for being a dickhead and barging in here with my opinions and vendetta agaisnt the OP, but I do not withdraw my previous statements as they are still grounded within reality.
Anonymous No.942478632 [Report] >>942478822 >>942479642
>>942478448
>Both men and women should have the right to vote, work and own things.
Even from start, you are misrepresenting the feminist position. Because both men and women have had all those for decades, so what's left to fight for?
Anonymous No.942478822 [Report] >>942478906
>>942478632
sex worker rights? make it legal america.
Anonymous No.942478880 [Report]
>>942478522
What's illogical about pointing out that in every species, there are trade offs between the male and female roles? Do you know of a species with perfect parity?
And do you really think attacking one position over how a different position was phrased, where you didn't even look at context to even see if they were connected, is that being grounded within reality? Really?
If you are going to admit to being wrong for not having read the context, just admit to being wrong.
Anonymous No.942478906 [Report] >>942479058
>>942478822
You want to fight for equal representation within the sex work industry?
Anonymous No.942479058 [Report] >>942479135
>>942478906
more like decriminalization of prostitution and more blue districts.
Anonymous No.942479135 [Report] >>942479296
>>942479058
Okay, but right now men and women have the same rights to perform sex work as each other. It's just as illegal for a man to walk the street and sell sex as it is for a woman, it's not a lack of rights that means it's primarily women performing the work, it's simply that the demand for sex with women is so much higher than the demand for sex with men.
Anonymous No.942479296 [Report] >>942479520
>>942479135
well fuck, ya got me. i just wanted to up the demand.
Anonymous No.942479520 [Report]
>>942479296
Aww, was hoping we would go for at least one more round so I could make the provocative point that because of the laws surrounding sex work and how it's enforced, more men are arrested and charged (for buying) than women are arrested for and charged (for selling).
Not to say that men are the primary victims of how society has formed it's laws or chooses to enforce them in regards to sex work, that would be silly, but legalizing sex work might benefit men more in numerous ways. Both over not getting arrested for buying, but imagine if every CEO could have it part of the contract with their secretaries that the CEO gets a blowjob whenever they want during the work hours?
Anonymous No.942479642 [Report] >>942479861
>>942478632
they didn't have that at the start of feminism.
we are not actively invaded right now, so why are there pacifists?

I think it is a human right to sleep at least once a week.
I don't stop thinking that just because I've just gone to bed or just woke up.

a feminist thinks that both men and women should be allowed to do xyz, they don't stop thinking that just because they are allowed to do xyz.
Anonymous No.942479861 [Report] >>942480089
>>942479642
>they didn't have that at the start of feminism.
But they keep pushing for more, even as the sexes have equal rights. Now it's a fight for parity everywhere where they perceive there are more men or men have an advantage, and a complete ignorance of everywhere where women are favored or there are more.
For instance, the fight for more women at universities used to say it was absolutely unacceptable when the split was 60% men, 40% women. Well, that's reversed, now it's 60% women, and yet the feminist aren't only silent on the issue, they are celebrating that as a victory, as a good for their cause.
Feminism has turned into a supremacy movement, and depending on which bits of the literature you read from the very start, there was always an element of it in there. Which contradicts the stated value of equal rights, protections, opportunities and freedoms. Because in many if not most, women have more than men. And yet, the push doesn't stop.
Anonymous No.942480089 [Report] >>942480325
>>942479861
>But they keep pushing for more
No.
Feminists want men and women to be allowed to go to school.

asshat calls itself a feminist and demands that more women than men should be allowed to go to school.

stealing an already established movement/famous name is not the same as belonging to it.
Anonymous No.942480325 [Report] >>942480898 >>942481289
>>942480089
Where in America are women not allowed to go to school?
Anonymous No.942480898 [Report] >>942481289 >>942481393
>>942480325
you have misunderstood the whole thing.

feminist. men and women must have the same right to vote, work, own things.
they do now, and feminists think it should continue to be so.

Feminazi.
Men are worthless and must be suppressed.

>Where in America are women not allowed to go to school?

Post-feminism

Core belief: Argues that feminism's objectives have been met and that the movement is no longer needed.


Third-wave feminism

Core belief: Acknowledges that gender equality has not been fully achieved and that new challenges exist due to changing social, economic, and technological conditions.
Anonymous No.942481289 [Report]
>>942480325
>>942480898

or a more 4chan explanation.
is the person over there a nazi
(german citizen sometime 1933-1945 and member of the nazi party)
or is it a nazi
(trump supporter in the usa around 2025)
Anonymous No.942481393 [Report] >>942481907
>>942480898
Hey, if you want to say that every feminist of the last 30 years aren't really true feminists, then I'm going to refer you back to this statement from earlier from me: >If feminists can't even follow and carry out the stated values of feminism themselves, how can anyone else?

All I've been pointing out is that the ideology of feminism has flaws that makes it debunkable, chief amongst them is how feminists can't and don't live the stated values and principles of feminism. Even under what you list as the core belief of third wave, they have already switched there from rights and freedoms into approaching wanting equity. They had all the rights, but they wanted parity, hence the so often repeated gender wage gap nonsense that they parroted for decades, knowing full well that it wasn't comparing job for job, but total earnings by every man versus total earnings by every woman.

Even at the very start of feminism, them fighting for the right for every women to vote wasn't an ask for equal rights, because not every man had the right to vote. In some places, it was only land owners that could vote (and women could be land owners), other's it required things like military duty or service like fire fighter and others, but everywhere the right to vote came with responsibilities. But the feminists wanted the right to vote without any of those responsibilities.

Much of what you seem to believe about feminism is a lie, and a contradiction of what it wants the public to think of it's ideological movement, it's stated values, versus it's actual actions and consequences. And those contradictions is what debunks it, just like the contradictions of any other ideology debunks those.
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Anonymous No.942481746 [Report] >>942496505
Anonymous No.942481907 [Report] >>942482067
>>942481393
If John can't even follow and carry out the stated values of Frank, how can anyone else?
All I've been pointing out is that the ideology of Matt has flaws that makes it debunkable, chief amongst them is how Peter can't and don't live the stated values and principles of Alex.
Anonymous No.942482067 [Report] >>942482836
>>942481907
Here, it's Frank can't even carry out his own stated values. He says stealing is wrong, yet he steals something everytime he goes shopping just for the thrill. He says rape is wrong, yet every time he goes out drinking, he sneaks sedatives into any woman's drink he can.

Feminists says it's about equal rights and freedoms, and then go on to advocate for equity, parity and sex based legislation. If you want to make the argument that there are no true feminists left, you go on holding that foolish notion, that's not relevant to my point.
Anonymous No.942482836 [Report] >>942483139
>>942482067
>Feminists (lets say Jenny) says it's about equal rights and freedoms, and then X go on to advocate for equity, parity and sex based legislation.

Is X and Jenny the same person?


>if you want to make the argument that there are no true feminists left, you go on holding that foolish notion, that's not relevant to my point.

how is that not relevant?
if a boomer is a person born in the 1950's

And you talk about boomers that are born in 2010
You are not talking about boomers, you are talking about gen alpha.


if a feminist is a person who thinks that women and men should have the same rights to vote, work and own things, and you are talking about a "feminist" who believes that women should own everything while men should be slaves, then you are not talking about a feminist. you and the person you're talking about are using the wrong name for the thing in question and that is absolutely relevant.


I'm a vegan and I absolutely love eating meat, I eat meat every day.
Anonymous No.942482981 [Report]
>>942474398
... dude
Anonymous No.942483139 [Report] >>942483512
>>942482836
It's Jenny says feminism is about equal rights and freedoms, and then Jenny goes onto advocate for parity, equity and special advantages for women while being a 'feminist writer' or any of the dozens of different titles feminists gives themselves.
But you know what? I give up on you, if you haven't gotten it by now, you never will.
Anonymous No.942483146 [Report]
>>942474398
>"persecution complex"
will you call it a "conspiracy theory" next?
Anonymous No.942483270 [Report] >>942483327 >>942483991
>>942475045
>I can promise you that being considered an inferior sex toy is an idea that every feminist would ardently object to
uuh, sweetie, you don't know wymyns very well, do you?
Anonymous No.942483327 [Report] >>942483454
>>942483270
A woman wants to be used, to be treated like a slut. She doesn't want to see her object of desire choose to go fuck a man instead of her, she wants him to choose her as his toy. They want to be the superior sex toy, not the inferior one.
Anonymous No.942483454 [Report] >>942483526
>>942483327
>inferior
yeah, okay, you got the point
Anonymous No.942483512 [Report] >>942483620
>>942483139
>Jenny goes onto advocate for parity, equity and special advantages for women while being a 'feminist writer' or any of the dozens of different titles feminists gives themselves.

sooo, jenny is a dozen different individuals?

I am a proud Nazi and I think we should let the Jews rule Germany :)


>the nazi views contradict themselves
Anonymous No.942483526 [Report]
>>942483454
I know, I made the point.
Anonymous No.942483620 [Report] >>942483960
>>942483512
No, she's a liar with contradictory principles and values in conflict with each other. That's feminism, it's adherents cannot and will not act out the very principles and values they argue everyone has to live by.
Anonymous No.942483960 [Report]
>>942483620
I have to ask, are you retarded?

A feminist believes that X is good.
If a person says they are a feminist and X is bad, then they are not a feminist.

A pacifist believes war is bad.
if a person says he is a pacifist and that war is good, then he is not a pacifist.

A vegan does not eat meat.
if a person says they are vegan but eat meat, then they are not vegan.
Anonymous No.942483991 [Report]
>>942483270
>dat pic
precise, concise and exact
Anonymous No.942484025 [Report]
I think feminism is a psyop.
Anonymous No.942484143 [Report]
>>942474658
kek
Anonymous No.942484339 [Report]
>the absolute state of YLYL
Anonymous No.942484869 [Report] >>942486512
>>942473446
Ooow now show abuse rates for teachers vs pastors, or priests!
Anonymous No.942486349 [Report]
>>942470188 (OP)
;
Anonymous No.942486404 [Report] >>942486434
>>942470188 (OP)
Didn't read. You have a small penis.
Anonymous No.942486434 [Report]
>>942486404
I have a small penis too but I did read it.
Anonymous No.942486512 [Report] >>942488761 >>942495715
>>942484869
wrong comparison
Anonymous No.942488761 [Report]
>>942486512
wow
Anonymous No.942489367 [Report]
>>942470188 (OP)
Based OP
Anonymous No.942490719 [Report] >>942490883
>>942470188 (OP)
Believing that feminism can be "debunked" is dumb as fuck.
Anonymous No.942490883 [Report] >>942491977
>>942490719
why?
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Anonymous No.942491977 [Report] >>942492609 >>942499623
>>942490883
For the same reason you can't debunk "chocolate is better than vanilla" - it's a viewpoint, not a statement of fact.
Anonymous No.942492609 [Report] >>942495062
>>942491977
You can debunk what feminists claim are statements of fact though.
Anonymous No.942495062 [Report] >>942495439
>>942492609
Sure, but that isn't debunking feminism either.
Anonymous No.942495233 [Report]
>>942470188 (OP)
With how destructive and deleterious the militant "feminist" movement is I propose a new term to identify these "ALL for US or NOTHING" beasts:
FEMINIHLISM
Anonymous No.942495361 [Report] >>942495414
>>942470188 (OP)
feminism - noun,
The self-advocacy movement of deranged and deluded women towards pseudo-masculation and intent to displace all men from society.
Anonymous No.942495414 [Report]
>>942495361
That's not it at all.
Anonymous No.942495439 [Report] >>942495648
>>942495062
If their claims are faulty and that is what they base their adherence to feminism on, it is debunking feminism though.
Even if they double down on being wrong after that, I just get to laugh at them for being retarded gender supremacists.
Anonymous No.942495648 [Report] >>942495886
>>942495439
If you think feminists are gender supremacists by default I'm not convinced you even know what you're criticising. Some self-described feminists are misandrists, sure, but they're a vocal minority and not representative of feminism as a whole. Feminism is literally just the belief that people should have equal rights, respect, and responsibilities regardless of what's in their pants - it's really just the absence of sexism. I'll grant the term can give people the wrong idea though.
Anonymous No.942495715 [Report]
>>942486512
Your graph is a comparison of 600 (571) victims in a report vs the total number of cases in Brooklyn, of which 100 was haredi jews.
By your own stats it should be 3.2something per 10k, or 1/3rd the rate of catholics.
God I miss when /pol/ propaganda had effort put into it.
Anonymous No.942495886 [Report] >>942495988 >>942496446
>>942495648
The feminists who just want equal treatment and who aren't some version of the KKK for woman and against men have just been duped by the headline without reading the article.
Feminism was about being utter hateful shitheels with a strong sexist bias since the inception and as an ideology it has nothing to offer but hate for men and a chip on the shoulder for women who could have otherwise have had some pride in their own accomplishments for women.
It tells women that the world inherently hates them and that man made it so, which is an complete and utter fiction.
Anonymous No.942495988 [Report] >>942496172 >>942496406
>>942495886
The first wave were all mothers and repected women fighting against the barons of the gilded age. I'm sure you meant the radical feminists who are mostly irredeemable of the late 50s to 70s
Anonymous No.942496034 [Report]
>>942473885
>the same rights, opportunities, and freedoms
Modern feminism also demands the same outcomes. Hence gender quotas, "positive discrimination" and similar bullshit.
Anonymous No.942496080 [Report]
>>942474398
YWNBAW
Anonymous No.942496122 [Report]
>>942475535
>I can only name one so far
And you're wrong too.
Anonymous No.942496172 [Report] >>942496268
>>942495988
Nope, go look into who the suffragettes actually were and what they were about, they didn't want the vote before poor people and black people were looking like they were about to get it.
Anonymous No.942496268 [Report] >>942496355 >>942496481
>>942496172
Poors and blacks got it in 1856/1865 respectively anon and feminism started to wind up the late 1800s early 1900s
Anonymous No.942496355 [Report] >>942496481
>>942496268
I should point out Northern states had earlier male sufferage but the south being the south lagged way behind. Still the timeliness don't add up.
Anonymous No.942496406 [Report] >>942496465
>>942495988
That's not true, the first wave was a bunch of entitled cunts of noble and the like birth, they were the most privileged women there was asking for unfettered access to voting, since before everyone got to vote, it was only land owners and the like.
Anonymous No.942496446 [Report] >>942496538
>>942495886
>has nothing to offer
Women who enjoy the right to vote, having their own bank accounts, having jobs other than nursing and teaching, etc. would disagree. Even I disagree and I'm a man - feminism (or gender egalitarianism, if you prefer) has plenty to offer all of us.
Anonymous No.942496465 [Report] >>942496563
>>942496406
Maybe in Britain or somewhere else but here in the USA the suffrage movement didn't kick off long after the Civil War.
Anonymous No.942496481 [Report] >>942496603
>>942496268
>>942496355
Look into it more, I'm not the woman hater you might think I am, I just got disenchanted with feminism once I looked into what it actually stemmed from.
The fairy tale of the evil all encompassing patriarchy just isn't historically accurate.
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>>942481746
>tfw your justice boner rips through your trousers
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>>942496446
I was you once, I don't begrudge women getting to vote, having bank accounts or having more choices in what jobs they can have, I just know that feminism and feminists weren't actually the people who did the work to get them that, they just took the credit.
Anonymous No.942496563 [Report] >>942496618
>>942496465
It was the same in the US, just like it was pretty much everywhere. It was not the lower and middle class women pushing and wanting voting rights, it was the upper class of entitled women wanting more. Another thing to keep in mind is the big majority of all women actually didn't want the vote, because they thought it would bring the same responsibilities and duties that it did for men, things like the draft for the military and public duty.
Anonymous No.942496603 [Report] >>942496648
>>942496481
I'm not saying that I agree wkth feminism or all of it, but you're wrong to assume American suffrage movements stemmed largely pre male vote. Iirc some conference occured, no one cared, and post abolition things actually started and it took another 50 years to actually get big.
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>>942496563
This, the majority of women rejected suffrage at least 3 times before they said yes.
Anonymous No.942496648 [Report] >>942496726
>>942496603
Look into the suffragists in the US and how many times they offered to help women getting to vote and getting rejected anon.
Anonymous No.942496726 [Report] >>942496910
>>942496648
Anon focus
Was the suffrage movement big in 1850 or 1910?
Anonymous No.942496910 [Report] >>942497229
>>942496726
The feminists stem from the suffragettes, which were derivative of the suffrage movement.
They might have gotten the name feminists in 1910, but they had been around long before that.
Anonymous No.942497229 [Report] >>942497797
>>942496910
Yes as temperance, suffragists, and abolitionist. But not feminists. All of them mothers, enjoyed family, and had views on sexuality and morality in line with the times.
And sufferagists don't kick off until after long after the 14th amendment albeit there was a literal handful before who were ignored like Stanton.
So this argument that feminism is in repsonse to whites and black men getting almost getting rights doesn't make sense especially as they all held meetings in northern states where white males had long been enfranchised
Anonymous No.942497797 [Report] >>942497889
>>942497229
Go look up honey badger radio and listen to what the very intelligent women from that youtube channel has to say about this subject.
Feminism was predicated on asserting that men don't care about women, while capitalizing on men caring about women from the get go.
The entire premise of the movement is based on a lie and it does a disservice to women and men alike.
Anonymous No.942497889 [Report] >>942498079
>>942497797
Did...you just reset? What does this have to do with your earlier statement about feminism being a repaonse to men getting to vote despite the timeliness being the opposite?
Anonymous No.942498079 [Report]
>>942497889
I'm tired and drunk anon, what my incoherence can't convey will be made more understandable by the youtube channel I recommended to you.
They get into all of this stuff much better than I'm able to, they're the og of the red pill and if it wasn't for them, I would still have inherited shame for being a man that isn't merited.
Men and women are humans, warts and all and our history together is not predicated on men being deliberately evil until mothers and sisters finally said no in the early 1900's.
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>>942491977
Many political ideologies much like feminism make claims about the world. If those claims turn out not to reflect reality then you've debunked the ideology.
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>>942470188 (OP)
Read this post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Retconned/comments/1m0px7o/attention_at_least_one_rapture_has_already/

From the post:
>And don't be deceived by the fact that the masses aren't talking about this info. In actuality, this info is the most important thing on the planet right now—by far. Nothing else even comes close.
Anonymous No.942506203 [Report] >>942510456
shit thread for retards, we get it, women don't want to fuck you, grow up, this is now a pol thread
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>>942472947
>what happened to "religious family values"?
on which we previously relied?
Anonymous No.942508935 [Report] >>942510355 >>942510421
>>942507056
You left out the part where the newly unsealed files were all about how Epstein hated trump and was desperate to get dirt on him
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Anonymous No.942510355 [Report] >>942510421
>>942508935
did you... not read them? You should read them. Seriously. Do it now.
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>>942508935
>>942510355
they were together on thanksgiving during his first presidency you retards. he wish ghislaine well. He moved her to a country club prison. Do the math. Something is fucked. The country is run by pedophiles, stop pretending this isn't reality and start thinking about a solution
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>>942506203
Anonymous No.942510571 [Report] >>942511077 >>942515033
this has been a funny litmus test. Ask a liberal what they'd think of bernie or obama if they found out he fucked a kid with epstein. Universally death sentence. ask a conservative and they say "It's fake, he never would, he couldn't, he's not capable of it." First felony president, first known criminal that everyone can see who lies freely and with no regard and admits to sexual assault, non-payment, punitive lawsuits and great evil, but he could never do a bad thing. Then flip it - libs will say to put em both in prison forever, or worse. GOPs will say kill obama either way, but trump could never have done it.
One party has reason.
One has faith.
Anonymous No.942511077 [Report] >>942512126
>>942510571
Biden literally raped his granddaughter and everyone knew it

There's no actual evidence trump is a pedo, it's accepted fact that Biden was and dems openly supported their "minkr attracted person" leader as they do all pedos.
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>>942511077
>biden was for sure a pedo, I heard about a journal I just can't find it anywhere
>TRUMP could NEVER be, NO evidence, ALL the emails are FAKE, ALL the testimony is fake, the conviction for felony SA was FAKE, he didn't MEAN IT when he said he grabbed pussies, he HAS NEVER BROKEN LAWS AND IS NOT A PEDOPHILE NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
yeah, cool, any other pedophiles you want to stand up for? Fuck biden man, he's gross. a pervert. you're right man, lock him up. But also, lets lock up trump. Who is also a pedophile. and maybe just have a rule that no pedophiles can be in charge
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>>942512627
>random accidental prostitute
I lolled
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>>942510571
No one rejected Clinton after he banged out Lewinsky or raped others that hilldog destroyed to hide the truth.
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>>942470188 (OP)
Fuhrer dubs checked.
Anonymous No.942515236 [Report] >>942515266
>>942470188 (OP)
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>>942515236
Oh please. The "media" will also tell you that menstruations are caused by the patriarchy.

Womyn hate accountability.
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>>942470326
You sure can stink ditch.