Thread 22803690

Why did “God” need to have a traditional Jewish circumcision?

To easily identify Jews for the inevitable Jewish genocide by Christians (God's servants).

>>22803690 (OP)
You aren't a traditional Jew, so it doesn't apply to you anyway.
Why do you care what He does with them?
You should be more concerned with what He's going to do with you on Judgment Day.

>>22803691
So you believe Christ himself was marked for Jewish genocide? Huh?

>>22803690 (OP)
Roughly 18-20 years (at the very least 17 years, See Note 1) after the alleged death of jewsus, james and the elders still required jews (including paul) to obey the law of moshe and to practice circumcision.
Note 1:
Galatians 1:18
>Only after three years did I go up to Jerusalem to confer with Cephas
According to paul, he visited jerusalem three years after his encounter with jewsus.
Galatians 2:1
>Fourteen years later I went up again to Jerusalem
According to paul, fourteen years later the jerusalem council occured (Acts 15).

Explanation:
Acts 21:17-24
>17 When we arrived in Jerusalem, the brothers welcomed us joyfully.
>18 The next day Paul went in with us to see James, and all the elders were present.
In jerusalem, paul met with james and the elders.

>19 Paul greeted them and recounted one by one the things that God had done among the gentiles through his ministry.
>20 When they heard this, they glorified God. Then they said to Paul, “You see, brother, how many thousands of Jews have believed, and all of them are zealous for the law.
james and the elders informed paul that thousands of jews believed [in jewsus] and all of them were zealous for the law (torah-observant).

The "thousands of jews" were the laymen of the jerusalem church (some for 17+ years).
There were three thousand jews in the jerusalem church since Acts 2:41 and more jews continued to join in Acts 2:47.
Later in Acts 9:31, the church throughout in judea, galilee, and samaria grew in strength and numbers.

Were there other christjews that were also zealous for the law after the death of jewsus? Yes.
ananias is described as a christjew that had a vision with jewsus and as a devout observer of the law (torah-observant).
Acts 9:10
>In Damascus there was a disciple named Ananias. The Lord spoke to him in a vision, “Ananias!”
Acts 22:12
>There a man named Ananias, a devout observer of the law who was highly regarded by all the Jews living there
1/2

>>22803694
>21 But they are under the impression that you teach all the Jews who live among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, telling them not to circumcise their children or observe our customs.
Why were the christjews (Acts 21:20) under the impression that paul was the ONLY christjew with those teachings?
Did james, the elders, and the other apostles not have the same teachings?
james was a leader/pillar in the jerusalem church so the christjews (Acts 21:20) would have likely asked james if he approved of the teachings of paul before paul arrived to jerusalem (Acts 21:17).
Galatians 2
>2 But I spoke privately to those recognized as leaders
>9 And recognizing the grace that I had been given, James, Cephas, and John—those reputed to be pillars—gave me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship
How would have james answered the christjews?

>22 What then should we do? They will certainly hear that you have come.
>23 Therefore do what we advise you. There are four men with us who have taken a vow.
>24 Take these men, purify yourself along with them, and pay their expenses so they can have their heads shaved. Then everyone will know that there is no truth to these rumors about you, but that you also live in obedience to the law.

>What then should we do? They will certainly hear that you have come.
Why will they do for the christjews (Acts 21:20)?
james and the elders advised paul to purify himself by taking a vow and to pay the expenses of four vowed jews.
According to james and the elders, what would that accomplish?
Everyone would know that the rumors about the teachings of paul (Acts 21:21) weren't true.
>Then everyone will know that there is no truth to these rumors about you
Everyone would know that paul also lived in obedience to the law.
>that you also live in obedience to the law.

Obviously, james and the elders wanted to prove to the christjews (Acts 21:20) that paul was NOT an apostate teaching apostasy to the dispersion.
2/2

>>22803690 (OP)
It's a metaphor. You wouldn't get it.

>>22803690 (OP)
why does this Jesus look like Daniel Kahn from about 10 years ago?
oh wait, because they're both fucking jewish, that's why

>>22803692
>You aren't a traditional Jew, so it doesn't apply to you anyway.

Listen to the way these cucks talk. Total emotional investment in and validation of Jewish mythology

>You should be more concerned with what He's going to do with you on Judgment Day.
Oh so a “judgement day” is coming? And how did you, as a finite human, come to discover this information? I know you read it in a Jewish book, but that’s not what I’m asking. I’m asking how you know that what you read in the Jewish book is real. I’m asking you this question for the sole purpose of highlighting that you can’t answer it and are just an obedient slave to whatever Jews instruct

You think Jesus underwent metzitzah b’peh?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=KU2Sr1l4Ifw

>>22803696
No, this is blasphemous. Christ was circumcised on the 8th day in accordance with his traditional Jewish faith and you insult and desecrate Jesus Christ, King of the Jews, for trying to take that away from him

>>22803690 (OP)
it was a different time, he was competing with people who threw their kids into fires, he probably needed some type of cool ritual idk

click here to learn more about Christianity, circumcision hasnt been mandated by God for 2000 years btw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt4rWLVAW5g

>>22803690 (OP)
Because jewish women won't accept anything unless there's a discount.

>>22803694
>Can't type Jesus
Denounce the talmud

>>22803701
I feel so sorry for you. Nobody would ever even try to take one step in the direction of trying to justify and condone Jewish circumcision unless they were in a deep pit of despair and they truly believed that was the best option for them. Your miserable existence forcing yourself to roleplay and pretend you believe in Christ is the only possibility you can imagine for yourself. That is dark, that is bleak, and I am so very sorry you are going through that. I hope you make it out one day buddy. Nobody deserves to have to live like that

>>22803702
>denounce the Talmud

Denounce the Torah.

Because the story of Christ is incredibly powerful when you recognize that he was born with jewish privilege and rejected it. Instead, he told the jews that anyone can have salvation, which meant everybody is "chosen".
This made the jews so infuriated that they had Jesus tortured and murdered. The jews are so arrogant, entitled, and conceited, that they chose to murder their messiah over giving up their "chosen" status and jewish privilege to see everyone as equals.

>>22803703
I think you in particular would like the Book of Ecclesiastes it's just 30 minutes on youtube

check it out

if you dont you are scared

>>22803690 (OP)
They forced it on him, then as an adult he proclaimed that circumcision won't do anything for you. Christians that have it done to their sons DO NOT READ the Bible.

>>22803707
>then as an adult he proclaimed that circumcision won't do anything for you
Which verses?

>>22803702
I denounce the talmud and the torah. My ID changed btw

>>22803690 (OP)
>traditional Jewish circumcision
Immediately a false premise
Judah was one of the 12 tribes of Israel, for one
Abraham was not a jew, since he proceeded the 12 tribes - he could be called a Hebrew I suppose
Moses was of the Levites so technically couldn't be a jew
ANYWAY, circumcision was originally a way to distinguish God's people (Caucasians) from the vile heathens surrounding them (Cainites, Moabites, etc)
And today (while not necessary under Christ, and personally it doesn't matter to me) circumcision still distinguishes the White man from the vile pajeet and subhuman South American and (most) Africans

>>22803690 (OP)
idk but i think the parables are interesting and teaches you how to be decent person in society. i think jesus was a cool dude and did nothing wrong and was enlightened and wise.

>>22803693
these jew worshippers don't even know what they're supposed to think

>>22803690 (OP)
You know that after him circumcision was abolished. He just was born in a period of the law but when he ressurrected than love and freedom was the new law.

>>22803710
>picrel
So THAT is why there are so many incels now. Girls are disgusted by uncut dick, so these stats make it all make sense.

>>22803690 (OP)
The Catholic banned circumcision.

Christians are shabbos goys, total braindead cattle who believe things without evidence and who make up bullshit to justify their belief in Judaism.

>>22803690 (OP)
Is that really the sticking point for you?

>>22803716
I have evidence for myself. You are not me, and you are not at the top of society. There is plenty of things and plenty of power that are far above you.

>>22803690 (OP)
because individuals must dull their carnal desire in order to obtain higher levels of desire like a desire to be in connection to the Creator

>>22803702
>Denounce the talmud
Why does a book scare you?

>>22803690 (OP)
>one jew to rule them all
i'm starting to think LOTR was an allegory about christianity dismantling western civilization

>create man with foreskin
>tell him to just cut it off
it was just a prank, bro!

>>22803722
While still making man with foreskin lmao! Then later changes his mind and makes it a metaphor of the heart lol

>>22803720
>>22803723
Sup fat nigger

>>22803724
>fat
Doesn't look fat to me kek

>>22803725
You will always be a fat nigger you reddit faggot

>>22803690 (OP)
otherwise he'd die without ever having his dick sucked.

Why did God create us with a fault and is now punishing us for having said fault? How is that fair?

>>22803726
>You will always be a fat
>literally says I've lost 125lbs
It's cute you save my replies ;^)

>>22803728
god is a sadistic prick, that's why.

>>22803710
>Judah
Kike
>Israel
Kikes
>Abraham
Kike
>hebrew
Kikes
>moshe
Kike
>Levites
Kikes
>God's people (Caucasians)
Lmfao
>circumcision good
You commit aggravated sexual assault against infants.

>>22803729
Why can't you say the word "nigger"? You cuck faggot reddit nigger, kill yourself immediately after reading this post
Also by reading this post you acknowledge that you are a useless fat nigger faggot retard

>>22803728
>punishing us for having said fault
Which fault and punishment are you speaking of?

>>22803731
Wow based and ignoramus pilled, you must be proud of yourself
Stupid fuck

>>22803690 (OP)
To learn empathy for human suffering, that is why God came to earth.

It was time he understood our pain, and in that, swore to never cause anymore.

I LOVE JESUS

>>22803732
>Why can't you say the word "nigger"?
Huh? Search the phrase "vicarious redemption is nigger tier" in the archives and ye shall see my name :^)

Why did God create Adam in such a way that he freely chose wrong, but not in such a way that he would freely choose right? Was he made worse than he could have been on purpose? Why is he being punished for it then, it's not his fault? What kind of God accuses his creation of being responsible for being created with a fault, and how does he justify punishing it for it?

>>22803732
>>22803733
>>22803734
take your meds christcuck
only schizo people believe they can talk to dead 2000 year old jewish carpenters

>>22803734
You think the torah is historical non-fiction and wasn't written by jews, you need lobotomized with an icepick.

>>22803733
We are able to do wrong, and then we are made to suffer because of it.

>>22803690 (OP)
He's the Son of God the Father, both are elohim (as are angels), elohim is a plural word btw, look it up. He was fulfilling the Law so that we could have legal status as sons (and daughters) of God the Father, as Jesus is the first born. He brought in the Law of Christ (Gal 6:2) which is based on Love (Gal 5:22-23). Once he was resurrected he was "uncircumcised".

Why does God force us to feel pain but then makes us completely powerless against it, unable to defend ourselves from it? Why such hate?

>>22803690 (OP)
I want to know why Pork is considered dirty in the old law. It makes sense from a historical point of view as it was a way to legitimize a proto nationalist tradition of non pork eaters from foreigners who brought pork in during the sea peoples migration period but how do Christians view why their God does such a thing? Can animals made by God be spiritually unclean?

>>22803736
Namefaggots are the biggest niggers of /pol/ even worse than meme flag niggers
You're a nigger
>>22803738
Ye of little faith
>>22803739
You're a self aggrandizing faggot and have zero understanding of faith or anything that lies beyond your own nose
>>22803740
You'd complain even harder if you were made a robot with no free will
Understand the concept of free will and God and creation and redemption make perfect sense
>>22803742
Life is temporary and every bit of pain you felt eventually is forgotten, seeking truth of God and his love is the meaning of this life

>>22803744
Sounds like a personal problem my friend :^)

>>22803744
You're trooning out, torah humper.

>>22803744
>robot with no free will
>Understand the concept of free will and God and creation and redemption make perfect sense
How do you have free will when your omnipotent and omniscient God has a will that supercedes it?

Also, what is free about an ultimatum?

>>22803690 (OP)
Of all the things, THAT'S what you're hung up about?

It's simple. YHWH has always been obsessed with circumcision. He wanted to feel what it's like seeing as he makes everyone else do it. Also it's part of Torah Law, and Yeshua said he came "not to abolish the law, but fulfill it", so obviously circumcision was part of the itinerary on his vacation away from heaven.

>>22803690 (OP)
Believe it or not, but there is not a single verse in the entire Bible that specifically calls the Jews or the tribe of Judah God’s chosen people. This misconception comes from the fact that the Jews of today have declared themselves to be Israel and not the house of Judah, as the Scriptures rightfully call them.

youtube.com/watch?v=eT_RUdBTlp40hxmp

>>22803744
What has improved by us getting free will? Before the chances of making the wrong choice and suffer as a consequence were 0, not they are bigger than that. What have we gained that would justify all the suffering it has caused?

>>22803745
Yea anons who need attention like a faggot woman are my problem (You)
>>22803746
Bleach enema stat nigger
>>22803747
You are nowhere near as clever as you believe yourself to be, semantics are not truth
We are a part of God, and God is in us - there is not and never was any separation between us
You're playing word games instead of seeking truth, therefore I have no respect for you at this point
>>22803750
With no free will we could not live as the intelligent creators God made us to be ("he made Man in His image)
Life has pain but always look for the beauty and love and you will find more and more of it every time
Talk to God and listen, speak deep love and gratitude nonstop and you will start hearing and seeing Him everywhere

>>22803693
It's a death cult, bro. Stop killing the vibe.

>>22803752
Your prophets were jewish pedophiles :^)

>>22803744
>Life is temporary and every bit of pain you felt eventually is forgotten,
Life is all i get, and you want to ruin even that and make me suffer?
>seeking truth of God and his love is the meaning of this life
What is this love of his? Would you say that someone who could have prevented you from suffering but chose not to loves you? Is forcing you to suffer and feel pain called love? Is refusing to end the suffering called love? I don't understand, why does he want to hurt me and make me feel bad if he loves me?

>>22803752
>are my problem
Damn, sucks to be you

>>22803752
>You are nowhere near as clever as you believe yourself to be, semantics are not truth
>We are a part of God, and God is in us - there is not and never was any separation between us
>You're playing word games instead of seeking truth, therefore I have no respect for you at this point
OK but you didn't answer the questions

>>22803690 (OP)
Just imagine that all of these religions are right, each one is a different god, and each one set down their 'players' to try and take over the world.

Now destroy the other religions to win!

>>22803752
>With no free will we could not live as the intelligent creators
Why not give us free will to choose, but replace the bad options with good options? What's wrong with that? hy the need to run everything by introducing evil into the system?

>>22803752
>Talk to God and listen
How often do you talk with rabbi yeshua? Has he ever told you to do things? Is he currently in your room?
Do you also talk with his friends?

>>22803690 (OP)
Jews are not Judeans or Israelites.

>>22803705
>It's really a moral flex
Your God is cool with slavery and child rape. Jewish mythology is not a moral system

>>22803754
>:^)
What's with you discord faggots and this gay emoticon? Honest question
Also you're a dishonest hack, you faggot
>>22803755
Why are you suffering?
Do you assume because your current situation causes pain then everyone in the world feels the same?
I just went though the worst few years of my life with dire health issues and I still found a way to be thankful and pray all the time
>What is this love of his?
God is Love, study the person and message of Jesus to understand this
Stop being so self obsessed anon, that's all I'm getting from your posts - you feel bad for yourself all the time
God loves you anon, if you reject him it's like a tree who rejects water, eventually you will start dying from it

>>22803756
What's the question you disingenuous hack

>>22803762
>DISCORD
You're trooning out again, eunuch.

>>22803752
So what has improved to justify all the suffering? You haven't really answered my question.
>Life has pain but...
No but. Pain runs everything, and you can't avoid it. I am soon about to be in great pain and i have nod defense against it, i will be forced to experience it, and i will probably be forced to resort to taking drugs, since nobody, not even God can help me. Why force your creation to feel bad?

>>22803706
>here’s a homework assignment for you to do, go take half an hour to figure out why I’m right for me

No, the burden of proof is on you. Either explain the answer you’re alluding yourself or you admit you don’t have one and are just trying to stall to buy time.

>>22803758
Anon I don't have all the answers, why don't you talk to God about it?
Ask questions in earnest and be open to getting the response in a multitude of ways

>>22803762
It's funny how you can tell every last christian on this board is just a pissed off little incel manlet who's mad at the world because he found out how jewish his religion is from an anime board and can't cope with it.

>>22803764
>JIDF meme pack #682
Come back when you've had an original thought anon

>>22803763
Here I'll help you
>>22803747
>How do you have free will when your omnipotent and omniscient God has a will that supercedes it?

>Also, what is free about an ultimatum?

>>22803707
And why did they “force it on him”? Did they “force it on” gentile Nordic children too or only to their own Jewish children because they are Jewish?

>>22803769
>Have an original thought
>Like this Jewish mythology
Anon i

>>22803767
>be open to getting the response in a multitude of ways
This dude is schizo as fuck lmao
>>22803769
How many original thoughts do you have about your torah?

>>22803769
Bro your idea of God was borrowed from someone else whom they borrowed from someone else so forth and so on

>>22803690 (OP)
He didn’t look like that. That’s how the disgusting anti-Christian Jews look today. You have that much in common with them.

>>22803771
>then as an adult he proclaimed that circumcision won't do anything for you
That's not true at all.

>>22803768
Yeah they are söy as fuck.

>>22803765
As long as you continue to see yourself as wholly separate from God you will continue to frame your suffering in such a jaded, nihilistic way
I don't know what you want from this interaction anon, can you tell me?
Do you want me to change my mind?
Do you just want to vent?
Are you actually looking for answers and a mental and spiritual path to a fulfilling existence?

>>22803775
He was an unremarkable looking jew living in israel.

>>22803767
>Ask questions in earnest and be open to getting the response in a multitude of ways
Is he unable to talk normally?