Ave Christus Rex - /bant/ (#22828693) [Archived: 1065 hours ago]

Anonymous Germany
6/15/2025, 5:39:37 PM No.22828693
Luther baptize a jew
Luther baptize a jew
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To start this thread i want to point out that the only universal aspect about the Christian faith would be the offering of forgiveness and and salvation to all, as well as to whom the moral laws apply to (as opposed to jewd who claim you can lie to, steal from or kill a non jew as it all doesnt aplly to them, being deemed cattle).

People being up Paul saying
>There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither man nor woman, there is neither slave nor master, for you are all one in Christ Jesus
alleging that this is egalitarianism however is retarded. some other veses Paul
>5A woman must not wear men’s clothing, and a man must not wear women’s clothing, for whoever does these things is detestable to the LORD your God.
or
>34 Women are to be silent in the churches. They are not permitted to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says.
a clear difference is mentioned in how faitfull women and men should act, in line with previous established customs, showing that Galatians doesnt revoke those
another
>12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; she is to remain quiet. 13For Adam was formed first, and then Eve.
Or here, on class instead of gender
>5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear and sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.
So when class and gender are not abolished, though they are one in Christ, why then should we abolish race as a concept and ignore the other laws around that

As a result it clearly means all can be saved regardless of gender, ethnicity or class, and that Christ came for all, not that we are to abolish these concepts
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Anonymous Germany
6/15/2025, 5:40:27 PM No.22828694
Göbbels Christianity
Göbbels Christianity
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All I have on Christianity, the teachings, morals, philosophy, law, history, origin etc.
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/442494416

Some more specific parts
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/493495206/

Some older thread that includes some stuff i had to cut out due to space reasons
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/392101355
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Anonymous Germany
6/15/2025, 5:47:24 PM No.22828695
Rome Judaism
Rome Judaism
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New IP/ID

I want to adress the claim that rome collapsed because of Christianity.
Rome had a lot of issues going on but their biggest one was their expansionism beyond any reason. It made it impossible to effectively rule the empire, and much worse to defend its borders. Whenever some tribes thought they could reclaim their lost land all battles would be over before roman armies would get there, and in the meantime 2 different fronts opened up of people seeing their chance to reconquer their old land. this chipped away from the empire slowly.
To negate this they hired barbarian mercenaries, but they costed so much they had to engage in fiat money practices not much different than our monetary system today, and that of course invites catastrophe.
This paired with rampant hedonism and egoism resulted in neglection of their people and rampant degeneracy, and eventually it caused the collapse.
simultaniosuly this neglect for their people allowed Christians to convert people through their care and love
according to Rodney Stark
>he [Emperor Julian] complained in a letter to the high priest of Galatia in 362 that the pagans needed to equal the virtues of Christians, for recent Christian growth was caused by their ‘moral character, even if pretended,’ and by their ‘benevolence toward strangers and care for the graves of the dead.’ In a letter to another priest, Julian wrote, ‘I think that when the poor happened to be neglected and overlooked by the priests, the impious Galileans observed this and devoted themselves to benevolence.’ And he also wrote, ‘The impious Galileans support not only their poor but ours as well, everyone can see that our people lack aid from us.’”

Likewise it wasnt Christianity that let jews into rome, they lived free in rome long before, without any laws against them, which only were stript of their right by the Christians after.
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Anonymous Slovakia
6/15/2025, 5:55:59 PM No.22828696
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>>22828694
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Anonymous United States
6/15/2025, 5:57:25 PM No.22828697
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>>22828695
>shill has to bump its own thread
Kek
Anonymous Germany
6/15/2025, 5:58:40 PM No.22828698
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>>22828696
Reminder:
Almost all the anti christian standpoints of Hitler come from tabletalks or göbbels diary, both being fake in at least part
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/13507486.2018.1532983
https://web.archive.org/web/20200315030200/http://www.nobeliefs.com/HitlerSources.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20190827005529/http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com/2011/01/goebbels-diaries-are-fake.html

everything he said openly was pro christ, even if anti church, so the question is was Hitler honest or lying like a kike he hated so much?

>Without a doubt the chancellor lives in faith in God. He recognizes Christianity as the foundation of Western culture
-Cardinal Faulhaber

As for the Jews, I am just carrying on with the same policy which the Catholic Church has adopted for fifteen hundred years, when it has regarded the Jews as dangerous and pushed them into ghettos etc., because it knew what the Jews were like.
>I don't put race above religion,
but I do see the danger in the representatives of this race for Church and State, and perhaps I am doing Christianity a great service
-Hitler

Mein Kampf
>And the Founder of Christianity made no secret indeed of His estimation of the Jewish people. When He found it necessary He drove those enemies of the human race out of the Temple of God; because then, as always, they used religion as a means of advancing their commercial interests. But at that time Christ was nailed to the Cross for his attitude towards the Jews; whereas our modern Christians enter into party politics and when elections are being held they debase themselves to beg for Jewish votes. They even enter into political intrigues with the atheistic Jewish parties against the interests of their own Christian nation

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
>I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so.
Anonymous Germany
6/15/2025, 6:04:52 PM No.22828699
3a2
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Luther started out with "that christ was born a jew" where he argued we should remove restrictions on jews and let them live in our midsts freely, as they were not allowed in trade, or any authority position, not allowed to live in the cities, had to wear identifying clothes and more (as it was for most of the Christian rule), so that they may see the prospering christian ways and convert.
20 years later he wrote "on the jews and their lies" where he argues we should burn down the houses and synagogues of jews and kick them out from our lands to protect the general well being of the public

This seems to be a sort of microcosm as Christians sometimes forget the reason the restrictions were put on them and try to show mercy and help them from their wickedness, just as Luther did. Then they quickly realize the reasons for their persecution again and every bit of compassion is gone all of a sudden.
Anonymous Germany
6/15/2025, 6:13:00 PM No.22828700
Eve
Eve
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i want to put attention to some details in the Eden story.

The term for serpent itself has multiple layers. the word for "serpent" is "nachash"
https://biblehub.com/hebrew/5175.htm
which is the same word and thus probably a pun for "enchanter" or "wizard",
https://biblehub.com/hebrew/5172.htm
its also to money lender
https://biblehub.com/hebrew/5377.htm
or to deceive
https://biblehub.com/hebrew/5378.htm

Also there is a class of angel is called "Seraph"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seraph
>A seraph (/ˈsɛrəf/, "the burning one"/"serpent";
A class of angels being refered to as "serpent" so its not just a random snake there.

applying this we see how the early chapters of Genesis can be used as an allegorical warning of usury and money as a whole through the use of puns
Its a story of how making up our own morality away from God lead to evil and suffering womans proximity to earthly things leading to distress when left unchecked, something we find mirrored in the north american myths
Beyond that we see the story of 2 persons growing up, living in naive innocence, in paradise, but then wake up towards evil.
We find even some evolutionary lessons, like the snake losing its legs (being cursed to crawl on its belly) or the woman being cursed to give birth in pain which we dont see in other animals, caused by the babies big heads, needed for the big brain coming from the knowledge that cursed us
Not to mention the inherent narrative regarding sexuality
Anonymous Germany
6/15/2025, 6:21:23 PM No.22828701
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Now let us take a look at the jewish customs and the talnmud

https://www.vice.com/en/article/qbe8bp/the-child-rape-assembly-line-0000141-v20n11
Probably the only article worth reading from vice

Also
Ketubot 11b6:
>Rava said that this is what the mishna is saying: An adult man who engaged in intercourse with a minor girl less than three years old has done nothing, as intercourse with a girl less than three years old is tantamount to poking a finger into the eye. In the case of an eye, after a tear falls from it another tear forms to replace it. Similarly, the ruptured hymen of the girl younger than three is restored. And a young boy who engaged in intercourse with an adult woman renders her as one whose hymen was ruptured by wood. And with regard to the case of a woman whose hymen was ruptured by wood itself, there is a dispute between Rabbi Meir and the Rabbis. Rabbi Meir maintains that her marriage contract is two hundred dinars, and the Rabbis maintain that it is one hundred dinars.
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Anonymous Germany
6/15/2025, 6:22:43 PM No.22828702
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>>22828701
Avoda Zarah 26a
>The mishna teaches that a Jewish woman may not nurse the child of a gentile woman. The Sages taught: A Jewish woman may not nurse the child of a gentile woman because in doing so she is effectively raising a child who will engage in idol worship. And one may not allow a gentile woman to nurse the child of a Jewish woman because she is suspected of bloodshed; this is the statement of Rabbi Meir.
Jews are to neglect gentile children because they would become idolators either way

>Abaye said to him: It is prohibited to raise a gentile from a pit even in exchange for payment, because one can say an excuse to him, such as: My son is standing on the roof and I must go use this ladder to help him down from the roof. Alternatively, he can say to him: A time has been appointed for me to appear in the courthouse [bei davar] and I must attend to this matter. Since the Jew can provide a legitimate excuse for refusing to aid the gentile, there is no need to extract him from the pit.
Just leave the goyim to die and make an excuse why you cant help him

>The Gemara discusses the subject of assisting or receiving aid from a gentile in the context of circumcision. The Sages taught: A Jew may circumcise a gentile for the sake of making him a convert. This is to the exclusion of circumcising a gentile for the sake of removing a worm [murna], which is not permitted, as it is forbidden to heal a gentile. But one may not allow a gentile to circumcise a Jew in any situation, because gentiles are suspected of bloodshed. This is the statement of Rabbi Meir.
A jew must not give medical assistence to a goy
Additionally the whole religion is centered around celebrating the murder of an innocent man
Anonymous United States
6/15/2025, 6:24:13 PM No.22828703
Christian spam thread Jannies will let hit bump limit.
Anonymous Germany
6/15/2025, 6:33:30 PM No.22828704
Bible Jews
Bible Jews
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What is a Jew?
There are multiple, at times conflicting definitions around, and let us look at everyone of them

The ethnic modern jews:
According to this definition its simply the modern ethnic group of jews. To note here is that the best case to make is that they are of edomitic descent (pic related), excluding the Israelites from this definition

The followers of judaism:
This defines jews by their adherence to judaism. To understand here is that judaism descents from phariseeism which Christ denounced as hypocritical heresies. So at least as Christian one can not hold that the prophets, the forefathers or (most of) Israel or Christ were jews.

The descendents of Israel/Jacob
According to this everyone is a jew that descends from Israel, however here we need to understand that this again excludes the modern jews, descending from Jacobs twinbrother, Esau, who fornicated with the canaanites.

A descendent of Judah
This is basically the same as the previous, only that it excludes the other 11 tribes as well. But here again the modern jews for the same reason.

A citizen of the state of Judea/Judah
This is what the term "Ioudaios" or "Iudaeorum" commonly in the Bible translated as "jews". At the time of Jesus a multitude of people were inhabiting Judea due to the babylonian captivity, the conquering of edom, and rome conquering Judeah and thus be regarded is "Ioudaios", or Judean in modern term.
This is the only definition that includes Israel, Christ as well as those we call jews today alike.

in current discourse, and especially by shills its always assumed and claimed these are all interchangable
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Anonymous United States
6/15/2025, 6:36:15 PM No.22828705
>follow jewish sand nigger cults
>Worship Jews
Kek, nope. Eat shit, golem
Anonymous Germany
6/15/2025, 6:44:39 PM No.22828706
Jews killed Jesus
Jews killed Jesus
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>muh King of the Jews
It should be noted that Christ never called Himself such, and only others called him so.
I would also argue this is a heavy mistranslation. The original read
>>INRI
>Iesus Nazarenus, Rex Iudaeorum
>Jesus the Nazarene, King of the Judeans
Iudaeorum or the greek Ioudaios, that now get translated as "Jews" refers to the citizens of Judah >>22828704. Judah at this point was heavily multi racial after the babylonian conquest and captivity, the integration of the edomite (which are the root for those we call jews today) to the point that Herod the king at the time was an edomite, as well as the roman conquest of Judeah all caused that the actual Israelite descendents are but a fraction of the citizens. We have an assyrian tablet talking about how all of samaria was replaced with a foreign people. Yet fates, much like governance usually are tied to the location, the land and cities.
Christ came to Judeah, and was the rightful king of its people, of which "jews" are but a fraction.

In fact the the sign "INRI" states His crime, being to be the king over Judeah. Which is why the jews even demanded the sign to be changed as this sign legitimizes Christs authroity mocking the actual jews
>19Pilate also had a notice posted on the cross. It read:
>JESUS OF NAZARETH,
>THE KING OF THE JEWS.
>20Many of the Jews read this sign, because the place where Jesus was crucified was near the city, and it was written in Hebrew, Latin, and Greek. 21So the chief priests of the Jews said to Pilate, “Do not write, ‘The King of the Jews,’ but only that He said, ‘I am the King of the Jews.’”
>22Pilate answered, “What I have written, I have written.”
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Anonymous United States
6/15/2025, 6:47:47 PM No.22828707
>>22828706
Coping turkroach. Jesus admits the Pharisees are Jews just like Jesus and Abraham and Isaac and all the other sand niggers.
John 8:37
37 I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.

Is Jesus lying about them being abahams seed(Jews)?

Christ niggers btfo
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Anonymous United States
6/15/2025, 6:48:51 PM No.22828708
The Introoder
The Introoder
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>>22828693 (OP)
>>22828694
Roach spam distracting us from israeli war crimes.
Anonymous Germany
6/15/2025, 6:57:19 PM No.22828709
>>22828707
>Abraham only had 1 child
>Isaac only had 1 child
There are many non chosen among Abrahams seed
>6It is not as though God’s word has failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. 7Nor because they are Abraham’s descendants are they all his children. On the contrary, “Through Isaac your offspring will be reckoned.”b 8So it is not the children of the flesh who are God’s children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as offspring. 9For this is what the promise stated: “At the appointed time I will return, and Sarah will have a son.”c

>10Not only that, but Rebecca’s children were conceived by one man, our father Isaac. 11Yet before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad, in order that God’s plan of election might stand, 12not by works but by Him who calls, she was told, “The older will serve the younger.”d 13So it is written: “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”e
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Anonymous United States
6/15/2025, 7:02:41 PM No.22828710
>>22828693 (OP)
Slavery is immoral
Anonymous United States
6/15/2025, 7:03:35 PM No.22828711
Hiding behind the flag_thumb.jpg
Hiding behind the flag_thumb.jpg
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>>22828709
You haven't fooled anyone since 2021, roach.
Anonymous United States
6/15/2025, 7:05:20 PM No.22828712
>>22828709
So Jesus is a liar?
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Anonymous United States
6/15/2025, 7:11:28 PM No.22828713
EMJ baptized
EMJ baptized
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>>22828712
You gotta make exceptions, goy. Whenever a jew worships a crucified jew, they are no longer jewish.
Anonymous United States
6/15/2025, 7:11:33 PM No.22828714
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>>22828693 (OP)
>As a result it clearly means all can be saved regardless of gender, ethnicity or class, and that Christ came for all, not that we are to abolish these concepts

An excellent summary.
Anonymous United States
6/15/2025, 7:13:55 PM No.22828715
>>22828693 (OP)
where are all the good kangz dead?
Anonymous Germany
6/15/2025, 7:15:30 PM No.22828716
Bible Mythology
Bible Mythology
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How the Bible fits with the mythology around the world
Anonymous United States
6/15/2025, 7:18:54 PM No.22828717
The roach laughs as Whites burn
The roach laughs as Whites burn
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>>22828694
kys
Anonymous Germany
6/15/2025, 7:26:54 PM No.22828718
Christianity is anti jew 1
Christianity is anti jew 1
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>Another prophet hinted at this when he said: "Israel is as obstinate as a stubborn heifer". And still another called the Jews "an untamed calf".

>(6) Although such beasts are unfit for work, they are fit for killing. And this is what happened to the Jews: while they were making themselves unfit for work, they grew fit for slaughter. This is why Christ said: "But as for these my enemies, who did not want me to be king over them, bring them here and slay them". [Luke 19:27] You Jews should have fasted then, when drunkenness was doing those terrible things to you, when your gluttony was giving birth to your ungodliness—not now. Now your fasting is untimely and an abomination. Who said so? Isaiah himself when he called out in a loud voice: "I did not choose this fast, say the Lord". Why? "You quarrel and squabble when you fast and strike those subject to you with your fists". But if your fasting was an abomination when you were striking your fellow slaves, does it become acceptable now that you have slain your Master? How could that be right?
-John Chrysostom
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Anonymous Germany
6/15/2025, 7:28:24 PM No.22828719
Christianity is anti jew 2
Christianity is anti jew 2
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>>22828718
John Chrysostom
>(2) Since there are some who think of the synagogue as a holy place, I must say a few words to them. Why do you reverence that place? Must you not despise it, hold it in abomination, run away from it? They answer that the Law and the books of the prophets are kept there. What is this? Will any place where these books are be a holy place? By no means! This is the reason above all others why I hate the synagogue and abhor it. They have the prophets but not believe them; they read the sacred writings but reject their witness—and this is a mark of men guilty of the greatest outrage.

>(3) Tell me this. If you were to see a venerable man, illustrious and renowned, dragged off into a tavern or den of robbers; if you were to see him outraged, beaten, and subjected there to the worst violence, would you have held that tavern or den in high esteem because that great and esteemed man had been inside it while undergoing that violent treatment? I think not. Rather, for this very reason you would have hated and abhorred the place.
>(4) Let that be your judgment about the synagogue, too. For they brought the books of Moses and the prophets along with them into the synagogue, not to honor them but to outrage them with dishonor. When they say that Moses and the prophets knew not Christ and said nothing about his coming, what greater outrage could they do to those holy men than to accuse them of failing to recognize their Master, than to say that those saintly prophets are partners of their impiety? And so it is that we must hate both them and their synagogue all the more because of their offensive treatment of those holy men
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Anonymous United States
6/15/2025, 7:30:12 PM No.22828720
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>>22828718
>>22828719
We're not going to worship your dead rabbi, roach.
Anonymous Germany
6/15/2025, 7:35:23 PM No.22828721
Bible Israel
Bible Israel
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Anonymous Germany
6/15/2025, 7:43:45 PM No.22828722
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pic related, case for a creator with the qualities the Bible acredits to Him, based on scientific observations.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_of_evil_(cosmology)
radiation patterns show earth is in a special position with special alignment and seems to not at all be random. this implication of higher meaning opposing the nihilistic atheism is then dubbed "axis of evil"
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Anonymous United States
6/15/2025, 7:44:43 PM No.22828723
Galatians
Galatians
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>>22828721
>>22828722
Anonymous Italy
6/15/2025, 7:46:30 PM No.22828724
christanzees unironically, totally seriously think this spam helps their cause and doesn't have the opposite effect
unless they are 5d chess players intent on making the right wing more redpilled on christianzeeanity and thus hostile to it, in that case, carry on
Anonymous United States
6/15/2025, 7:47:12 PM No.22828725
Pick a side
Pick a side
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>>22828722
Tell us more about the scientific benefits of chopping up baby dicks as commanded by your god.
Anonymous Germany
6/15/2025, 7:49:39 PM No.22828726
circumcission is directly opposed to Christ
Circumcission is the sign of the old covenant specifically
>1You are to circumcise the flesh of your foreskin, and this will be a sign of the covenant between Me and you.
the one Christ fulfilled.
Jeremiah then prophecized a new covenant being made, subsequently replacing the old
>31Behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah.
>32It will not be like the covenant I made with their fathers when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt— a covenant they broke, though I was a husband to them,g” declares the LORD.
>33“But this is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the LORD. I will put My law in their minds and inscribe it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they will be My people.
>34No longer will each man teach his neighbor or his brother, saying, ‘Know the LORD,’ because they will all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest, declares the LORD. For I will forgive their iniquities and will remember their sins no more.”h

(note the notion of the forgiveness of sins)
and as Paul confirms Christ did just that (referring previously to Jeremiahs prophecy)
>13By speaking of a new covenant,c He has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.

And circumcission is thus clinging to the old covenant, declaring Christs work illegitimate
>1It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not be encumbered once more by a yoke of slavery. 2Take notice: I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all.

really only burger do that and thats supposedly because of that kellogs guy
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Anonymous Germany
6/15/2025, 7:50:29 PM No.22828727
>>22828726
Further:
The people were running to depraved practiced like scarring once body, tests like jumping down towers bound to a rope which when cut too soon will just make you hit the ground, and if cut too late break your back, culluminating in sacrificing the firstborn child.
Also the israelites really wanted to be like "the other" nations around them which is why they petitioned God to have a king set above them. As such God gave Israel one such coming of age ritual to keep them from the worse stuff, and commanded it in such a way it causes the least harm it seems
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/321462229_Haematological_Basis_of_8th_Day_Male_Child_Circumcision_in_The_Holy_Bible

Also modern circumcission is different than the biblocal one. Originally they didnt uncover the glans and only cut off the skin that is "too much". The sucking on the freshly cut baby dick is a yet even later invention.
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Anonymous Germany
6/15/2025, 7:51:05 PM No.22828728
>>22828726
>>22828727
Chrysostom on why taking circumcission is rejecting the gift
>(6) But someone might say: "Is there so much harm in circumcision that it makes Christ's whole plan of redemption useless? Yes, the harm of circumcision is as great as that, not because of its own but because of your obstinacy. There was a time when the law was useful and necessary, but now it has ceased and is fruitless. If you take it on yourself to be circumcised now, when the time is no longer right, it makes the gift of God useless. It is because you are not willing to come to him that Christ will be of no advantage to you. Suppose someone should be caught in the act of adultery and the foulest crimes, and then be thrown into prison. Suppose, next, that judgment was going to be passed against him and that he would be condemned. Suppose that just at that moment a letter should come from the Emperor, setting free from any accounting or examination all those detained in prison. If the prisoner should refuse to take advantage of the pardon, remain obstinate and choose to be brought to trial, to give an account, and to undergo punishment, he will not be able thereafter to avail himself of the Emperor's favor. For when he made himself accountable to the court, examination, and sentence, he chose of his own accord to deprive avail himself of the Emperor's favor. For when he made himself accountable to the court, examination, and sentence, he chose of his own accord to deprive himself of the imperial gift.

>(7) This is what happened in the case of the Jews. Look how it is. All human nature was taken in the foulest evils. "All have sinned," say Paul. They were locked, as it were, in a prison by the curse of their transgression of the Law. The sentence of the judge was going to be passed against them. A letter from the King came down from heaven. Rather, the King himself came. Without examination, without exacting an account, he set all men free from the claims of their sin
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Anonymous United States
6/15/2025, 7:57:30 PM No.22828729
Genesis 17
Genesis 17
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>>22828726
>circumcission is directly opposed to Christ

It was a commandment directly from your god for thousands of years. Cope harder, roach.

https://biblehub.com/genesis/17.htm
Anonymous Germany
6/15/2025, 7:59:33 PM No.22828730
>>22828726
>>22828727
>>22828728
John Chrysostom on sacrifices and subseqently circumcission
>(4) Then the Jews will ask: "How is it that he straightway did permit the Jews to sacrifice?" He was giving in to their weakness. Suppose a physician sees a man who is suffering from fever and finds him in a distressed and impatient mood. Suppose the sick man has his heart set on a drink of cold water and threatens, should he not get it, to find a noose and hang himself, or to hurl himself over a cliff. The physician grants his patient the lesser evil, because he wishes to prevent the greater and to lead the sick man away from a violent death.

>(5) This is what God did. He saw the Jews choking with their mad yearning for sacrifices. He saw that they were ready to go over to idols if they were deprived of sacrifices. I should say, he saw that they were not only ready to go over, but that they lad already done so. So he let them have their sacrifices the time when the permission was granted should make it clear that this is the reason. After they kept the festival in honor of the evil demons, God yielded and permitted sacrifices. What he all but said was this: "You are all eager and avid for sacrifices. If sacrifice you must, then sacrifice to me." But even if he permitted sacrifices, this permission was not to last forever: in the wisdom of his ways, lie took the sacrifices away from them again.
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Anonymous United States
6/15/2025, 8:05:58 PM No.22828731
Combat Bait
Combat Bait
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>>22828730
Anonymous Germany
6/15/2025, 8:10:01 PM No.22828732
Bible law
Bible law
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Anonymous United States
6/15/2025, 8:18:58 PM No.22828733
Roach Poisoning the Well of 4chan
Roach Poisoning the Well of 4chan
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>>22828732
Anonymous Germany
6/15/2025, 8:23:20 PM No.22828734
>[15] For such cruel wrath of God shows all too well that they must certainly [16] err And if you say something wrong, a child can well grasp it. Because you don't have to grow like that God believes that he should punish his own people for so long, so greatly, so mercilessly, [Bl. Aiij] And to remain silent in style, [19] not to console with words or works, nor time end votes.6 Who [20] wants to believe in, hope for, or love such a God? That's why you close this [21] angry work, which the Jews, certainly rejected by God, are no longer his [22] peopleare, He is no longer your God either. And go according to the saying [23] [Hosea 1, 9] Hosea .j.: 'Lo Ammj. You are not my people, so I am not your God. [24] Yes, unfortunately that's how it is for them, and too seer7 and terrible. They must interpret [25] however they want. That's how we see it eyes, that doesn't do us any good.

>[26] And wherever there was a spark of reason or understanding in them, they [27] must be with themselvesSo think: Ah, Lord God, things are not right with us [28], the misery is too great,too long, too hard, God has forgotten us, etc. [29] I'm not a Jew, but I think along with you I seriously dislike such cruel [30] wrath of God against this people, for it terrifies me,that it goes through [31] my body and life, What will happen with the eternal wrath in the light [32] about false Christians and all unbelievers?
-Martin Luther: On the jews and their lies
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Anonymous United States
6/15/2025, 8:28:15 PM No.22828735
Immigrants Welcome
Immigrants Welcome
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>>22828734
Anonymous Germany
6/15/2025, 8:34:23 PM No.22828736
>The Psalmist said: "Then Phinehas stood up and propitiated him and the slaughter stopped? He rescued a great many ungodly men from the wrath of God .by slaying a single lawbreaker. This should have happened all the more in your case, if indeed the man you crucified was a transgressor of the Law.

>(2) Phinehas, then, was held guiltless after he slew a lawbreaker; indeed, he was honored with the priesthood. But after you crucified an imposter, as you say, who made himself equal to God, you did not receive esteem nor were you held in honor. Instead you suffered a more grievous punishment than you did when you sacrificed your children to idols. Why is this so? Is it not clear even to the dullest minds? You committed outrage on him who saved and rules the world; now you are enduring this great punishment. Is this not the reason?
John Chrysostom
Anonymous United States
6/15/2025, 8:40:07 PM No.22828737
I had my uncircumcised son baptized this year. Circumcision is one of the great crimes of our civilization.
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Anonymous United States
6/15/2025, 8:42:57 PM No.22828738
SmartSelect_20250615_143805_Chrome
SmartSelect_20250615_143805_Chrome
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>>22828726
>circumcission is directly opposed to Christ
>Circumcission is the sign of the old covenant specifically
>1You are to circumcise the flesh of your foreskin, and this will be a sign of the covenant between Me and you.
the one Christ fulfilled.

>I came NOT TO ABOLISH THE LAW, but fulfill
>"Uhhh uhhh this means the law is abolished!"

Christ niggers are retarded kikes
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Anonymous United States
6/15/2025, 8:45:04 PM No.22828739
I’m convinced of Christianity from a philosophical standpoint and also in some sense of Biblical history but I still struggle to accept Christ as God in my heart so I love my life like an atheist or pagan sympathetic to Christianity rather than a true believer, which bothers me.
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Anonymous Germany
6/15/2025, 8:45:32 PM No.22828740
1659296419245643
1659296419245643
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>>22828738
>Confusing the moral law with the ritualistic and priestly practices
Oneis universalt, the other specificto the covenant which Christ brought a new one as prophecized
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Anonymous Netherlands
6/15/2025, 8:46:12 PM No.22828741
>>22828693 (OP)
>ave christus rex
nice latin retard
Anonymous United States
6/15/2025, 8:51:15 PM No.22828742
Acts 16-3
Acts 16-3
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>>22828737
Sucks that the christian god legitimized circumcision by commanding it for thousands of years, eh?
Anonymous Canada
6/15/2025, 8:51:29 PM No.22828743
1726420387736390
1726420387736390
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jesus is for niggers
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Anonymous United States
6/15/2025, 8:53:57 PM No.22828744
>>22828740
>Christ nigger can't stop calling his Jewish god a liar
Lmao!
Anonymous Germany
6/15/2025, 8:54:00 PM No.22828745
>>22828739
Here is my view: Christ is much more than the man. He is the truth, and thus if you seek truth you subsequently seek Christ.
Christ is the word, and so if you believe in His lessons and teachings you also have faith in Him.
Now that is of course different from believing that Christ is God who came in the flesh, died and ressurected for our sake, but nevertheless shows an effort towards finding God and a moral compass that is aligned with the truth, and i would doubt that this wouldnt be considered at the second resurrection/judgement day.

Also likewise i would argue you have a claim that people can know Christ without ever having heard of Him even, by knowing what is right and wrong
Anonymous Unknown
6/15/2025, 8:56:17 PM No.22828746
>>22828693 (OP)
Christianity was the I AM doctrine veiled for the piscean age, a judeo-masonic concoction, specifically Jupiter and the Sun in Pisces. Islam was Venus in Pisces. For the aquarian age the I AM doctrine will be veiled under the guise of AI and other technological creations.

Jesus = Je suis = Jeshua = Yah Weh = Jove = Jupiter = Zeus = Deus = I AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZftML6pAv7E
Anonymous Germany
6/15/2025, 8:58:22 PM No.22828747
thread of prophecy
thread of prophecy
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I want to propose that YHWH may not be the correct name.
a) Christs name would be Yahushua, meaning "Yah Saves/is salvation".
2.:Likewise its HalleluJ-AH, not Yahweh, or Yehova.
III: YHWH is יְהוָֹה God introduced Himself to Abraham as הָיָה
https://biblehub.com/hebrew/1961.htm
"Ha-Yah"
now the prefix "Ha" is a definitive article, like we here when God is called Ha-Elohim (THE Elohim) or how Satan is called Ha-Satan to distinguish from the many small satans. So here it would be "The Yah",
4th the greek script renders the tetragrammatron as "ιαω", or IAO", y, j, and i generally being the same phoenetically being Yao, or Yaho.

Now why does the Bible render YHWH as God? After Christs death the jews thought about how they can deny Christ as Messiah, and thus altered the script creating the Masoretic Text we know today. On effort the made follows that the Messiah is High Priest in the order of Melchizedek, to deny Jesus they then claimed that Melchizedek is Shem and that thus his priesthood is the levite priesthood of which Christ cant be part of, being of Judah and not Levi. But Abraham met Melchizedek and so they had to live in the same time period when Shem lived a thousand years (ca.) before, and so jews removed the lifespan of the descendents from Shem to Abraham by a 100 years each so that Shem and Abraham can live at the same time. In the greek Septuagint iE the original ages are still preserved.
Likewise the virgin that gives births as a sign for the Messiah is now turnd into simply a "young woman"

The theory goes that in the same time where they rewrote the scripture to deny Christ, that they also altered the name of God
Anonymous United States
6/15/2025, 8:58:49 PM No.22828748
Average IQ
Average IQ
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>>22828743
based
Anonymous Germany
6/15/2025, 9:06:53 PM No.22828749
John Chrysostom
>I said that the synagogue is no better than a theater and I bring forward a prophet as my witness. Surely the Jews are not more deserving of belief than their prophets. "You had a harlot's brow; you became shameless before all". Where a harlot has set herself up, that place is a brothel. But the synagogue is not only a brothel and a theater; it also is a den of robbers and a lodging for wild beasts. Jeremiah said: "Your house has become for me the den of a hyena". He does not simply say "of wild beast", but "of a filthy wild beast", and again: "I have abandoned my house, I have cast off my inheritance". But when God forsakes a people, what hope of salvation is left? When God forsakes a place, that place becomes the dwelling of demons.

>(2) But at any rate the Jews say that they, too, adore God. God forbid that I say that. No Jew adores God! Who say so? The Son of God say so. For he said: "If you were to know my Father, you would also know me. But you neither know me nor do you know my Father". Could I produce a witness more trustworthy than the Son of God?

>(3) If, then, the Jews fail to know the Father, if they crucified the Son, if they thrust off the help of the Spirit, who should not make bold to declare plainly that the synagogue is a dwelling of demons? God is not worshipped there. Heaven forbid! From now on it remains a place of idolatry. But still some people pay it honor as a holy place
Anonymous United States
6/15/2025, 9:08:00 PM No.22828750
Turk jew worshipper can't even meaningfully respond. He claims the abrahamic covenant is over even though his rabbi god directly says that's false
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Anonymous ID: CPHHdiIJGermany
6/15/2025, 9:16:41 PM No.22828886
>>22828750
>>507503729
You nigger just ignore everything either way when i explained already in detail>>507495516
But here from Paul
>6Now, however, Jesus has received a much more excellent ministry, just as the covenant He mediates is better and is founded on better promises. 7For if that first covenant had been without fault, no place would have been sought for a second. 8But God found fault with the people and said: “Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah.
>9It will not be like the covenant I made with their fathers when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, because they did not abide by My covenant, and I disregarded them, declares the Lord.
>10For this is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord. I will put My laws in their minds and inscribe them on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they will be My people.
>11No longer will each one teach his neighbor or his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ because they will all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest.
>12For I will forgive their iniquities and will remember their sins no more.”b
>13By speaking of a new covenant,c He has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.

If you cant reconcile the issue you are either a brainlet or intellectually dishonest.
Anonymous ID: ZP1tHRsTUnited States
6/15/2025, 10:33:32 PM No.22829184
>>22828750
>ignores Jesus establishing a new covenant at the last supper
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Anonymous ID: lEjkZ6lCUnited States
6/16/2025, 10:16:45 AM No.22831342
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Anonymous ID: lEjkZ6lCUnited States
6/16/2025, 1:55:37 PM No.22831594
>>22829184
its called jewish passover seder dummy, and his name isnt even jesus its yeshua
but i understand why you have to change the names of things like the name of your 'god', because its all incredibly jewish.