Thread 22864234

Why does /pol/ keep pretending steroids are good for you?

>>22864234 (OP)
If you want to be big, you need big organs.

>kike israetel
His parents had a sick sense of humor, and God had an eve sicker sense making him 5'4

>>22864234 (OP)
They are, if you're not abusing them. Going way beyond normal human levels is obviously going to yield major health issues, though. If you're exceeding 1200, regularly, you're not doing your body any favors in the long term.

I have never seen anyone argue that. Messing with your endocrine system is not a good idea, including abusing artificial human hormones like testosterone and estrogen which can lead to drug addiction and dependency. Steroids have a very specific use in medicine for specific ailments under careful medical supervision.

>>22864238
The use of artificial human hormones like estrogen and testosterone can permanently damage your endocrine system and also lead to debilitating addiction.

>>22864234 (OP)
Why does op and other shills like him keep pretending /pol/ is one guy?
I don't condone steroid use, but it is the individuals choice whether or not they decide to use them.
Slide? yeah slide.

>>22864239
but men over 30 need more testesterone - sometimes even boys need more testosterone as a medical condition, so they will grow their body parts properly

>>22864234 (OP)
I legit look like this.
Big arms, chest, thick trunk, I have the hip grooves, but a pot belly like picrel bloated and huge.
It's freakish to me. I have trained myself to keep it sucked in.
Have never taken steroids.

>>22864241
Yeah, testosterone is basically a super vitamin for men. By the time you're in your 30s you're starting to suffer from lower test, and it's reflected in several detrimental effects:
>poor sleep
>poor libido
>poor erections
>poor mood
>more fat retention
>muscle loss/wastage
Testosterone literally fixes all those things. I've seen guys go from sad-sack skinny-fat fucks to basically being 19 again - great moods, better at work, better in bed, better muscles. Just way happier in general.
I'm not suggesting you should go on blast, but maintenance doses of 300 test once a week does wonders for most men in their 30s and beyond.

>>22864243
300?? In what unit of measurement are you talking about?

>>22864243
how do i fix it without taking steroids? what food or supplements to eat?

>>22864234 (OP)
I don’t care what other people do with their bodies

>>22864244
>In what unit of measurement are you talking about?
mg
A fairly standard dose of TRT would be like, 10mg to 200mg, pending on your location/doctor/standards. I think that's too low still, since ideally you want to be fairly north of 300ng/dl, cruising into 600-800. 1000ng/dl would be ideal but not for everyone.
Bodybuilders would be on something like 500mg twice a week, or more, which would usually put them at superhuman levels of test, 1500 to 3000ng/dl.

>>22864245
>how do i fix it without taking steroids?
Depends. If you're not chronically ill you can probably get your numbers up with relatively simple lifestyle changes. Simple, not easy.
>lots of regular sleep (8+ hours per night).
>lots of regular sun (1+ hours full torso exposure per day).
>lots of high quality natural whole foods such as; beef, lamb, liver, oysters, fruits, honey, dates.
>eliminate or reduce bad foods such as; unnecessary highly processed carbs (cereals, breads, pastas), useless vegetables (cruciferous greens), seed oils and other industrial fats, alcohol.
>lift weights at least 2-4 times per week, preferably compound movements such as the barbell squat, barbell rack pull, barbell clean, barbell military press, barbell row, pull up, etc
>stop jerking off so much

Anyone have any experience with this or other related peptides. I’m 36 and about to start my first cycle.

>>22864242
Sounds like you got some serious bloating. Your diet might be shit.
Go full elimination diet. Cut out everything except water, beef, and salt.
It's gonna suck for like 4-6 weeks as you go through ketosis, but after that you should have a fairly good idea of what's going on.
If you bloating goes away, you can introduce foods one a time to see what sets you off. It might be you have a really bad intolerance of the lectins (proteins) in oats, and that just fucks you up.

>>22864249
Just take BPC-157. It's safe.

You deflate within 2 months after you inevitably come off due to health complications.

>>22864245
You eat raw bull testicles. Not even joking.

>>22864251

This is not safe?

>>22864245
You can't. T levels drop because your body is aging.

>>22864234 (OP)
Didn’t this guy come out and say he’s dating ChatGPT? What a loser

>>22864234 (OP)
They aren't good for you. I'm on 250 test, 70mg MENT a week and my lipids, blood pressure is fucked and I feel impulsively sexual often

If you're old/weak do something like 200mg of testosterone a week only.

>>22864238
>>22864239
Testosterone isn't addictive. What it does is crush your SHBG, LH and FSH so that you feel like shit when you stop taking it because your body isn't signalling to actually make it. Its why bodybuilders take nolvadex and similar SERMs when they come off roids, so their body is signalled to produce estrogen - to make estrogen it needs testosterone and the aromatase enzyme.

The only steroids which seriously fuck with your brain are any steroid in the 19nor-testosterone category and halotestin. None of those drugs are beginner drugs and they should not be considered by an amateur.

>>22864248
>stop jerking off so much
maaaaan another one of those guys thinking jerking off affects your body long term lmao

>>22864234 (OP)
what is in his gut? just tons of visceral fat? misshapen muscle? organs that expanded? what gives?

>>22864245
Exercise
Foods like oyster and cruciferous veggies

>>22864259
He's sticking his belly out and he has visceral fat. He doesn't look like that unless he's playing it up

>>22864248
thx bro

>>22864259
Fat and bloat plus he had surgery done on his love handles because he can't diet properly so the emphasizes his stomach even more.

t. fitfag that once took Mike's advice until I saw the videos of Lyle (annoying faggot but a correct one), Jonni Shreve, and Nelson shitting all over him and his bullshit.

If you're a gym newfag do not listen to Mike, I have been burned by his advice.

>>22864234 (OP)
Never take advice from a midget jew about fitness.
If you are a normal size human you already have more muscle than him just from existing.

>>22864259
He had surgery to remove his love handles and this photo was taken right after so he's all bloated and swollen. The guy is a fucking nutcase(he's Jewish).

>>22864264
Nah Mike does have muscle, it can't be denied he is "stacked" in that sense but he looks horrible, cause he cannot diet beyond already having shit genetics and his advice is filtered through the lense of a guy that has blastered roids and has extremely autistic and retarded definitions of what training to failure is.

>>22864243
>>22864247
Will my body keep producing it naturally if I up and just suddenly quit at these low doses.

>>22864265
>bigger, strong, and smarter than Mike Mentzer
>nobody has more willpower than him, if he takes a year to autistically focus on a given field he will become an authority in it and mog anybody in a year
>no coach has a higher IQ than him
Anything else?

>>22864266
He would have an impressive amount of muscle for a 13 year old boy.
He is almost a foot shorter than an ethnically European adult male though.

>>22864247
Im om 400mg a week and have 3500 ng. Feels good im aiming to be 140kg by xmas

>>22864268
He recently went the fedora tipper route and said there's no evidence that God exists. Only science matters.

>>22864257
>Testosterone isn't addictive
Steroids themselves are not addicting but guys get addicted to becoming "huge" and the feeling when blasting huge amounts of testosterone. When I tried TRT, my doctor gave me a mini-dosage cycle in the beginning that felt great but when my testosterone levels came back high (and my dosage was lowered) I felt like I did prior to TRT aka like shit, low energy.

>Its why bodybuilders take nolvadex and similar SERMs when they come off roids, so their body is signalled to produce estrogen - to make estrogen it needs testosterone and the aromatase enzyme.

When I quit TRT it was about 2-3 months of pure suck but I am happy I did it. I was using HCG during the entire time I was on TRT (thank God), and then dropped TRT while cycling down HCG for a month before dropping that as well; I did have an AI on hand which I took a few times while taking HCG. I tried SERMS after my final HCG injections but fuck those things as they can really fuck up your vision and make you literally go crazy.

>>22864252
His name was Robert Paulson.

>>22864269
Most real Euros or Americans/Aussies aren't 6'3 lol. Him being a short, ugly, roid-gutted mutant Jew is basically all window dressing for the fact he's a massive fraud that gives shitty advice, says insane bullshit regularly, and cannot obtain a IFBB pro card.

>>22864235
Fpbp

>>22864235
this. my severe alcoholism has given me a gut like his and I can tell the guys are mirin'

>>22864234 (OP)
if you do steroids you will only get a trailer trash gf or a british girl as your girlfriend. young women today want a slim boyfriend who looks like their favorite korean idols

>>22864238
>>22864239
You can't get addicted to roids kek maybe develop a weird sex addiction though. Roid monkey's are homos who have freak offs

>>22864277
Twunk/ottermode I would say if you do not have million in the back/security that makes up for being a total waif. Go all fucking in if bodybuilding and powerlifting is your passion but if it's purely to attract the women, you're fine to clearly bench/row 2.25-2.5 pl8s for bench/rows for reps and 3pl8 squat with a 12-15% bodyfat, and if you're unlucky after that that's due your own face/height/autism/life being a mess.

>>22864245
>how do i fix it without taking steroids?

SERMS aka Enclomiphene can help you with that (oral) and give you TRT tier results without shutting down your natural testosterone production IF you can handle SERMS:
>https://youtu.be/7gHHl3YGLb8
>https://youtu.be/bgo4xRARWfk?si=TIvUGIsvumzyc8zf

Plus as an American it is easier than ever as your fucky healthcare actually benefits you in this case:
>go get a $100 blood work test online to see if you actually have low test (and if you do so, investigate if it is because of lifestyle problems first)
>go buy SERMS online (no prescription required and not illegal, see the video posted for a source or check reddit)
>follow a proper protocol and then do some blood work again in a month to see if your test levels have improved

>>22864238
drug addiction aahahahahaha you have no idea what you're talking about
you see the word 'drug' and think hormones are like recreational drugs
same type of person who says "dude!! ritalin is meth dude!!! it has the word meth in methylphenidate so it's le meth!!"
end your life, moron

>>22864245
tongkat ali and fadogia agrestis on top of all the other advice you just got. lifestyle is more important than supplements

>>22864276
based

steroids and vaping and shaving your Pubic hair
>faggots

>>22864234 (OP)
roids are for subhumans, cutting your life short because you want immediate results is gay and retarded.
Work your legs for test boost

>>22864277
all this talk of hormones this hormones that what are you blasting bro. dont they know being fat, even at like 18% bodyfat is estrogenic as fuck? fat cells assist in converting test into estrogen. the best thing you can do for “higher T, brah” is to get thin. 12% bodyfat or bust.
>b-b-but muh lift numbers
gay

>>22864234 (OP)
It doesn't you just made a vastly exaggerated claim so that people reply to your shit thread.

>>22864243

im 33 and none of those problems come even close to applying to me. you're just a fat alcoholic chump.

>>22864267
Depends on how androgenic you are. There's a lot of personal factors involved here. Small doses the answer is you'll probably be fine, but in truth why would you stop taking such a small dose? Just be on like 150-200mg for life and you'll always feel like you're 10 years younger than you are.

I have a thin dainty gracile skull that looks like it would crumple if a strong enough breeze knocked it on its side would HGH help me develop a giant monster skull that can headbutt through cement?

>>22864288
You just sound like a) and asshole, and b) more androgenic than most. Lucky you.

>>22864291

my wife always says i look and act mean. still with me though.

>>22864258
No one said to never jerk it. You shouldn't be gooning every day though. That shit legit lowers your testosterone among other things. Fuck real women. Not your hand.

>>22864270
Getting 3500 off 400 is nuts. You must be super receptive. That's the numbers Vitor Belfort was pushing when he had a fucking tear at the UFC in like 2012

all the buff gym guys you see online - are they all using ? How big do normal gym bros get naturally?
for example, they say chris hemsworth must be using with his physique which isnt even that crazy

>>22864292
Got kids? That shit will lower your T fast. Poor sleep and diet for 2-4 years is a killer.

>>22864295
Yes. They all are. Even if it's small doses of just testosterone and not other anabolic steroids.

>>22864296

no kids and im fully aware itll ruin my T. no plans for it. anything that interferes with my sleep gets dealt with. probably why i dont feel like shit, i get 7-9 hours and go to the gym 6 days a week. get enough direct sun exposure and nofap.

>>22864234 (OP)
>his name was Robert Paulson.

>>22864234 (OP)
There will be drugs to increase muscle mass with similar effect of steroids without all the negative side effects within the next 5 years. They are already in trial. You should be keeping lean and skinny while you wait for that to avoid lose skin. Soon I will no longer be a skinny lanklet, soon.

>>22864293
? so I can nut in a woman everyday like in highschool with no side effects, but I can't nut on my hand everyday because my testerone is gonna drop? Your body can't tell the difference where you bust a nut. Come on mate, nothing is going to change whether you fap or not. Talking from experience, didn't jerk off for 2 years nothing changed. Not because of the nofap thing, but I just couldn't bring myself to jerk off. Stop listening to youtube alpha/sigma guys, it's pathetic.

>>22864236
He just changed his name and surname as all jews do. They have no pride in their ancestry. Their name is just somthibg to capitalize on.

>>22864243
You don't. Test levels just drop slightly in early 20 and that's it. It doesn't depend on age. It's just that a lot of people get fat and sedentary with age. But active healthy 80yo will have the same testosterone level as active and healthy 20yo.

>>22864252
But dat nigga INflated

>>22864301
>Your body can't tell the difference where you bust a nut.
That's where you're wrong.

That's a man?

>>22864248
The time for such naive beliefs that cticking all these boxes is sure to place you in 500-1000 ng/dl range has passed 20 years ago. Many men 30-50 will have 190 ng/dl total test despite ticking all of your boxes, and the reason is environmental pollution of many different kinds, all at once, ever since birth. When fetuses and newborns are affected by this environmental pollution, their endocrine systems get permanently damaged and will not develop as well as previous generations', and then this effect compounds by each generation. It is simply brutally naive to trust that ticking some lifestyle boxes will put us back into 500-100 ng/dl range like our forefathers used to enjoy. For that reason, if things do not change, soon doctors will HAVE to prescribe exogenous test to individuals older than 30 to allow them to lead actual male lives. But they won't, because such positive treatment is only available to trannies and women.

Also:
>lots of regular sun

Enjoy aging quickly and being avoided by women early.

I take 160mg test C twice a week split into 80mg.

Going to lower my dose because it’s too high.

I wouldn’t recommended TRT at high doses, you’re going to feel like shit and feel need an aromatase inhibitor and blood donations.

If you’re going to do TRT start low and try to stay closer to normal range, otherwise you will have side effects that will make you feel same as pre TRT.

>>22864295
Jeff Nippard
He does a low dose and him talking about steriods is basically what the government does with soft disclosures. Even taking DHEA/DIM over the counter in the US counts as a low dose steriod cycle since it still gives you a testosterone boost from down stream conversion.

I did a test a while back, the values are a different unitt it seems. Is this ok for male in late 30s?

Would one cycle benefit my body in the long turn?

>>22864311
Do you eat any saturated fat in your diet? That is abysmal. You need Zinc, Vitamin D3, B12 and saturated fat to make test. Looks like your diet is likely raw veggies and soda.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Testosterone_levels_in_males_and_females

>>22864312
Retard Amerifat, you're not looking at it properly. He's near the top of the normal range.

>>22864312
I eat lots of chicken and rice. Also beef hamburgers sometimes.
Greek yoghurt with chia seeds. Is it that bad? It shows its within range on the paper but the units on interwebs are different from this one. I dont understand the difference in unit

>>22864313
God dam american measurements

>>22864314
Your fine then. Just hit the gym take Vitamin D3 if you don't get any sunlight and your golden. Most low test results(not yours) are due to low fat diets.

>>22864249
You are interfering with the Growth Hormone system when using ipamorelin.

To minimise side effects, I would recommend smaller, frequent doses rather than larger. (1-3 times daily).

For something closer to a natural response, I would recommend Sermorelin instead.

>>22864316
They say too much vitamine d3 gives you calcium buildup in vains. Is this true?

>>22864234 (OP)
Bodybuilders are the nicest people, they have the biggest hearts.

>>22864313
Normal range includes estrogenized plastic blood numales

Blasting gear is like trooning.
Your natural testosterone flatlines and you need to take it until you die or you will morph into a bulldyke.
A friend of mine legit looks like a biker lesbian now.

>>22864316
My vit d actually was too low during this measurement, it was right after winter season when i took the test

gym lifting is overrated as fuck. mike isratel wobbles around like a giant toddler and can't even touch his own shoulder. if you want to be strong and healthy after 40 you need to train your fascia system to stay flexy and mobile. getting stiff is what wrecks you.

>>22864312
>>22864311
>>22864313
>>22864315
>>22864320

Mine was 17.0 nmol/L 8 years ago when I was 22. At this point It's probably even lower. I eat quite clean and eat a lot of saturated fat, and lift weights 3-5 times a week.

I can have good sex once every 3-5 days provided that I abstain from porn. I never once had the ability of having sex more than once a day. I wonder if it is related.

This is the case for many males today due to absolutely exorbitant levels of environmental pollution in many ways all at once. For many newborn males, the situation will be much worse, and no matter what they do, no matter how perfect their lifestyle, they will have much lower average T compared to their forefathers due to the fact those types of pollution permanently damage adolescent sexual development 15 years before it starts. I.e., fetuses and newborns are permanently stunted in terms of growth that is only ever to be observed 15 years later, during puberty, which means that nobody gives a fuck because it's hard to track, diagnose, prove, prevent or treat.

Treat -> would be tantamount to hopping on exogenous testosterone for the rest of one's life, but doctors will not prescribe it because "you are in the normal range which is between 0 and 1 gorillion ng/dl". All the while trannies can get whatever hormone cocktail they dream up that morning.

>>22864309
High hematocrit isn't necessarily a bad thing.

This is the same board that advocates for orange zionism and thinks a republic can't also be a democracy.
This board is full of useful idiots for the jew

>>22864318
It could if you take high doses of vitamin D3 without taking vitamine K2. You need to take both but can be pretty expensive, since you're from Europe take a look at hsnstore. They have it liquid form (D3+K2) and is much cheaper than I've seen it at other places.

>>22864234 (OP)
>Why does /pol/ keep pretending steroids are good for you?

Because they technical are?

>>22864234 (OP)
>Why does /pol/ keep pretending steroids are good for you?
The widespread use of steroids is due to living in an internet driven feminist society in which man have to work tirelessly to avoid mediocrity, to hopefully secure reproduction from an attractive woman, an attractive woman that, due to recent widespread obesity, has become increasingly scarce.

>>22864276
>alcoholism
Is good. It saves you from prolonged life of pointless work and.misery.

>>22864327
Good tip. Will check it out

>>22864323
How does one train a fascia system?

>>22864324
Yea we definitly have more shit thats lowering our test and other hormones.

Who is to say wifi and phone radiation isnt fucking up our systems as well

Hypogonadal male asking doctor for TRT: "Your vile misogynistic hateful sexist toxic masculinity nazi call to violence has been reported to the interpol, please remain seated until the law enforcement arrives along with BBC to document this blatant surge of
white rage."

Tranny asking for TRT: "Of course xir! Right this way zim/zer. Would you like 500 ng/dl or 5000 ng/dl? I'm throwing in one mastectomy, it's on the house. If you bring in two more clients we will throw in a free clitoris augmentation, and two olympic games qualifications in the she/her category, mr xir/xem/xey. Did we mention take home junior TRT dosages for your xon/xauther free of charge?"

>>22864332
literally just be limber, move regularly, carry things to places

>>22864334
"Don't forget to throw this year's worth of birth control pills in the water supply when you get home! It's the sacred ritual for shedding your deadname and your past sexual identity."

>>22864234 (OP)
how the fuck do you end up with this

is this water?fat?

>>22864335
So basically go to the gym?

i you want testosterone, go suck horse dick

>>22864324
Maybe measure it again? Could be better

>>22864234 (OP)
I like to watch kike chosen influencers get a meltdown.

>>22864340
Will do thanks hope so

>>22864234 (OP)
Idk many people who say that at all. But every man should do some kind of physical activity whether that's for a job or recreational, and we should support each other for doing so.

>>22864234 (OP)
Cause prostate cancer is the best

>>22864234 (OP)
Why post a kike manlet with shit genetics and shit proportions?

>>22864248
>here's a dumb tip for prostate cancer.

>>22864234 (OP)
9 months pregnant to look that basic, ouuf who tf is this dude?

>>22864242
>Big arms

>>22864280
Messing up with estrogen is not a good idea.

>>22864234 (OP)
Wtf the fuck fuck is that, fat, pregnancy

>>22864259
It's called roid bloat, basically anabolics force every part of your body to grow, even though it's bad for you.
Your heart
Your liver
Your intestine
Your tounge.
It just makes everything grow, kinda like cancer in many ways

>>22864300
>With negative side effects
Like ozempig right?

>>22864337
It's forced his guts to grow

>>22864234 (OP)
That's the face of the Fell God forming.

>>22864248
>lots of regular sun (1+ hours full torso exposure per day)
Don't forget to spread your ass cheeks directly towards the sun kek

>>22864343
Totally agree. I workout every day at home and tell people to do the same. They ask me if i go to gym but i like to do at home with some weights

High T men tend to be conservative
Low T men when on TRT tend to be conservative
RFK Jr should mandate periodic T checks for men since childhood before they turn into trannies and mandate hormone therapy to keep T levels high through their entire life
In a couple of decades, America will rule the world a maybe a few planets

>>22864288
Everyone is different. You will feel at least very minor effects once you get into your 40s even if it's just slightly less energy day to day. It's not like you hit 30 and lose all your test in a big crash, it's just an average generalized slow decline as you age.

>>22864351
The distended gut and organ growth is from HGH + insulin abuse, not anything anabolic.

Tons of larpers in this thread. Based on the replies, very few have actually done a proper cycle

>>22864356
,It is cheaper that way

>>22864234 (OP)
HE

>>22864359
Would one cycle fuck up your test for life? Or will the levels go back to normal after you stop the cycle?

>>22864360
And i just dont like the gym. Ive tried it. It just feels weird pumping with other dudes and than wait for weights to be free again. I dont like the culture

>>22864307
Eternally based Big Poppa Pump

>>22864234 (OP)
there's no gym for your face

>>22864345
As much as I think Dorian Yates is an amazing freak of nature this kind of physique really damaged bodybuilding as a sport both in practice and the perception of the general public. It's always been a freak show to some extent but when this line was crossed the pursuit of classical aesthetics was lost and now dumb clueless people have been afraid to pick up a dumbbell because "they don't want to get bulky like those bodybuilders" like it's something that can just happen on accident.

>>22864362
Depends on what you used and how much anon.

>>22864366
True but still no excuse to not do anything.
You actually get stronger doing atleast something, and it feels good after

>>22864362
you would not believe how many fake natties are out there. yes you can totally just do one cycle and unless you keep using for months on end your nuts will be fine. some dudes dont even do a PCT but that’s very very bad advice. you wont turn into 21yo arnold swartznegger but you’ll make progress A LOT faster and if you aren’t a hulking mass freak it’s easier to say “haha no roids, i just like gym a lot” A LOT of people do this

>>22864366
the guy second from top right literally has a stacy GF last i saw

>>22864362
if you do a test only cycle and stay below 750mg a week, you will be 100% fine. PCT properly and your levels will return to normal

>>22864234 (OP)
Combo of videogame min max fags, shit work ethic, cheat code mentality, troon acceptance inoculation and of course life long customers for pharma and people who require infrastructure and distribution to maintain their health/mental well being
I love retards who roid for performance for the great white rebellion without considering what happens on their 4th day without refrigeration and access to their farm animal doses of tren and dbol

>>22864372
no they won't

>>22864367
I love Dorian but he kinda ruined the sport by being such a freak. Ronnie finished it off, he also killed posing. Dorian Yates is however absurdly based and redpilled and I would love to bullshit with him about the JQ. Imagine being interviewed about bodybuilding and you just start denying the Holocaust to your Jewish interviewer. He knew it would make Dave Palumbo's head explode.

Btw that guy is a total tard, I know a guy in his late 50s who was paying for coaching from Palumbo and he just sent him a copy+paste program he uses for everybody and told the guy (with heart and organ problems from 25 years of steroids abuse) to just triple his dosages and that heart failure isn't real.

>>22864373
gear isn't refrigerated you retard, its an oil based suspension. that would make it harder to inject

for the record i do not advise fucking with external hormones at all.

>>22864374
poast physique

>>22864278
yes you can

>>22864281
Ok then come off them then, permanent blast cruise chuddy

>>22864366
kek
need to be 5.10 and full hair at least

>>22864241
Not in Finland they don't, the doctors know better. :^)

>>22864378
don't be gay

>>22864376
Roll around with your 12 compound protocol in a backpack in direct sunlight for a week in Texas and get back to me
Also not everything is in oil suspension

>>22864281
but methylphenidate is literally an amphetemine

>>22864383
youve never done a single cycle, prove me wrong

>>22864372
I have to look into it i guess, you hear so many different stories.

Im gonna do another testosterone checkup and see if something has changed. If they are acceptable i dont think i want to risk it with a cycle.

I totally understand if your test is way too low that you would do cycles

>>22864370
Yea probably true. I dont really understand why you would lie about doing roids of some sort.

Why lie?

>>22864384
>consider what happens on their 4th day without refrigeration
>but the direct sunlight for a week in Texas

can you stick to a point here? no need to swing back and forth irrelevantly like a woman

>>22864387

do your homework, read people's reports and learn as much as you can about the pharmacology and you'll be fine

>>22864370 said it well. for every one horror story you hear of a guy running insane rich piano levels of gear, there are probably 100s of guys running basic cycles with no health concerns that you dont really even notice because they have shit genetics and hormone profiles to begin with

>>22864389
What point would you like me to stick to? The point that getting on gear makes you reliant on medical infrastructure and distribution or that your physical and mental capabilities become fragile if you have to quit cold turkey from your wankoff civil war fantasies?
Getting in gear is top goy tier faggotry

>>22864391
This is a fear for sure. That the supplies stop coming, and the chance that your test or other hormones never go back to before levels.

>>22864332
you can find lots of stuff on the tube. but there stuff like repeatedly grabbing a towel on the ground with your toes. or leaning against the wall with your arms against a wall, making them stiff and bouncing on the balls of your hands without letting root of your palm touch the wall. or standing on an elevated board or such so your heels aren't touching the floor and doing calve raises. it sounds dumb but shit like that will make you feel more bouncy.

>>22864393
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwYMq71l_2M

that's a jew

>>22864394
Interdasting. If i try that with my feet i get cramp right away. Which i dont get because i eat alot of extra magnesium

>>22864371
He has the best genetics from all of them

>>22864235
>If you want to be big, you need big organs.
Wrong. Space marines already solved this. If you want to be big, you want additional organs.

>>22864332
I bet you do not know what a fascia is.
It is not a system and you can not train it.
By doing exercises the body tries to addapt to the new stress you put it onto according to its genetics.
Some adapt great,other bad.

>>22864396
happens to me as well when I overdo it but much less so recently. obviously I'm no expert on fascia but so far it seems beneficial. they argue that kind of connective tissue is like 8%(?) of your bodyweight. essentially one long sheet lining all of your muscles and so on. so I guess healthy/smooth fascia means more effcient movement compared to being stiff with isolated muscles with less range of motion.

>>22864394
>>22864400
ching chong trash

>>22864399
I dont know thats why i asked

>>22864399
you probably meant me instead of the anon. yeah I'm not an expert on it obviously but afaik even if you can't -train- it as such you can mold your fascia to a certain degree, basically just by using it more. like using all planes of motion rather than just front heavy lfiting. again, what do I know, but I assume it's a bit like getting rusty in terms of whatever you aren't doing. so if you're sitting in front of your computer all day in the same pose the fascia will build up that way and plaster you into that position.

>>22864403
It sounds a bit like chi and invisible things? Or is it really a physical muscle all the way like your picture?

>>22864367
Bodybuilding wasn't meant for normies, it was meant for those who want to leave humanity behind.

>>22864404
don't think of it as chi as in some supernatual woo force bullshit but more in the sense of anatomy trains. in boxing for instance the movement might start in the foot pushing against the ground and travels up the leg twists the hip then the shoulder and generates the momentum that throws the punch. or you can use that to further accelerate the punch rather than doing arm punches or whatever. even if you're just twisting your hips it should make a difference. prolly why fighters skip rope among other things to feel more bouncy.

>>22864406
Hmmm sounds logical

>>22864404
fascia seems to be a very real thing although I guess it's significance depends on who you ask? significance in terms of you actively minding it I guess.

picture doesn't upload, fuck it!

>>22864408
Make a screenshot of it and than upload

>>22864407
I mean when you look the skeleton picture you can see the fascia man connecting all mentioned regions. so I guess if you pull on the muscle given the nature of the fascia as some sort of connective tissue you also pull upon other muscles and the muscles bridging the gaps or what you wanna call it. prolly not as simple as that because rather than this or it's a unity of everything at once kinda, but still. I think if the fascia lining is smooth and your mucles a flexy those anatomy trains or what they call it can transfer energy much more easily.

it amuses me how people take steroids to be hypermasculine but steroids are actually literally emasculating. they essentially castrate you while you're on them, give you mood swings, can give you titties/literally make you lactate, etc. etc.

steroids are a great case study in how gender is not as simple as people think it is.

t. currently on cycle.

>>22864409
wasn't that important just meat to illustrate what fascia looks like

>>22864411
Why are you still on them?

>>22864410
Is that why yoga seems to be so good? Will posture

>>22864414
> they say posture improves when doing yoga

>>22864413
personality defects + homosexuality.

>>22864414
hell, might be. but a healthy amount of stretching doesn't seem like a bad idea at all. there's this retard former pro-athlete who talks about refusing to stretch and guy claims he blew a quad while swinging a baseball bat. seems much more likely to injure yourself if you're tight as fuck

>>22864414
oh, there's this stay flexy guy on youtube. think about the man what you will but he said posture is kind of overrated, or something along those lines. he argued that the issue isn't having bad posture as much but rigid posture. so you probably don't have to walk around with a stick in your ass necessarily but generate that kind of wiggle room you can free associate depending on the context.

>>22864367
>now dumb clueless people have been afraid to pick up a dumbbell because "they don't want to get bulky like those bodybuilders" like it's something that can just happen on accident

i dont think anyone is this fucking stupid

>>22864238

i started taking estradiol but then i got addicted and couldn’t stop anon and now im a girl (male)

>>22864420
Thats a man

>>22864416
Cant argue honesty

>>22864418
My posture turns more relaxed after weed or 2 beers. I noticed this in the city last time

>>22864423
is prolly bullshit but you always hear those stories about drunk guys falling and not hurting themselves.

>>22864234 (OP)
Steroids are good for you.

>>22864424
Yep ive heard the same stories

>>22864243
or maybe you have shit habits, shit diet, shit life, shit work and so on

Because they are chinese commies attempting to weaken the herd.

Also because they are stupid and have no refferences to the real world and have spent less than 200 hours at the gym.