It's not enough to tax the rich, that's pussy shit, we must expropriate the rich and seize everything they have. And then put them to work in labor camps.

ugh, what are you, Belarus?

>>22870614
No I'm just a schizo American Marxist-Leninist.

>>22870616
So was he

Ugh I don’t understand why so many people on this board have to be extremists. They must be total neckbands and judging by a lot of the threads posted terminally alone incels

>>22870624
what isyo ur life like?

>>22870628
That’s a difficult question to answer

>>22870624
Centrism is failing. The status quo is crumbling. Life is dying out and civilization is threatened so people are looking for alternatives: either far-left ones like anarchism, communism, or socialism; or far-right ones like fascism, libertarianism, or monarchism. The people who still identify with moderate politics are either those who believe that everything is fine and nothing needs to change, usually because they benefit from the status quo, or those who believe that things can be changed gradually through participation in the electoral system.

>>22870633
yeah sorry
idk what i mean really
people who talk the way you do, i just imagine you as like wealthy productive socialite people, and i wonder what your fascination is with this site

>>22870636
That’s not really true…

>>22870640
It is. We are in the midst of the sixth mass extinction event, the Anthropocene extinction. The current global order is unsustainable and is slowly rendering the Earth uninhabitable through its insistence on growth for growth's sake. The capitalist-imperialist system is predicated on the profit motive, the pursuit of short-term unsustainable growth without regard for the future. This present world system impoverishes, oppresses, and exploits the bottom 90% of humanity to the benefit of the top 10%. The only thing that matters to these elites is the next quarter, that's as far as they can see. The only option humanity has to continue to exist is to find another alternative and forcibly replace the present order of things.
"In capitalist society, spare time is acquired for one class by converting the whole life-time of the masses into labor time" to quote Marx.
If this parasitic system that enriches the few at the expense of the many, which is inherently short-sighted and unsustainable, is not overthrown then global human civilization will inevitably collapse due to the ongoing and worsening ecological crisis. As far as we've advanced, we still rely on nature and if it goes then we go down with it. Feedback loops which have already started will gradually make the Earth unsuitable for life long after civilization has collapsed. The small remnants and pockets of humanity left after collapse will find it more difficult to survive with every passing generation until we go extinct. Then after the extinction of humanity, most other complex lifeforms will follow over the course of several centuries.

>>22870653
>The current global order is unsustainable and is slowly rendering the Earth uninhabitable through its insistence on growth for growth's sake. The capitalist-imperialist system is predicated on the profit motive, the pursuit of short-term unsustainable growth without regard for the future. This present world system impoverishes, oppresses, and exploits the bottom 90% of humanity to the benefit of the top 10%. The only thing that matters to these elites is the next quarter, that's as far as they can see. The only option humanity has to continue to exist is to find another alternative and forcibly replace the present order of things.
you & every ideology brained economist and political theorist fucks this up
it's not an EXTINCTION
nature is an interdependent self-balancing system
what will happen is the population will drop to lower than its original (before fossil fuels and industry) capacity was, then stabilize again.
the population capacity might become permanently reduced, but that's teh worst that will happen.

if you could explain the "sixth mass extinction" or "anthropocene extinction", i'd be interested, though.
also, after reading the 2nd paragraph of your post, i don't understand what relevance "a parasitic system which enriches the few at the expense of the many", nor a revolution, would do to change the apocalypse scenario you describe.
how does overthrowing a parasitic system change any of these feedback loops which will make pockets of humanity struggle to survive?

>>22870662
Humanity absolutely has the power to destroy life on Earth, all but micro-organisms anyway. We're changing the climate and polluting the Earth faster than life can adapt to it. We still don't know the full extent of what microplastics will do, or how heated up the Earth will end up being once all the fossil fuels are released into the atmosphere; or all the permafrost is thawed and the trapped methane is released into the atmosphere.
Could just be that human civilization collapses but is ultimately able to recover and change course, could be that once global human civilization collapses then billions of people die and we're doomed to pre-industrialization conditions for eternity but at least we don't go extinct, or maybe we'll turn the Earth into another Venus and everything will die out turning this planet into another lifeless rock floating in space.
We don't really know. But we constantly hear that "things are worse than models have previously suggested" so I know we're not getting off easy. Hell if humanity were to magically switch to a sustainable system overnight I don't know if we'd be able to clean up after the mess which capitalism left. Could be that whatever comes next won't be able to deal with how much capitalism fucked up the global ecosystem and it'll just be a pyrrhic victory.

>>22870679
>Humanity absolutely has the power to destroy life on Earth, all but micro-organisms anyway. We're changing the climate and polluting the Earth faster than life can adapt to it. We still don't know the full extent of what microplastics will do, or how heated up the Earth will end up being once all the fossil fuels are released into the atmosphere; or all the permafrost is thawed and the trapped methane is released into the atmosphere.
agreed
i heard the methane thaw could trigger a chain reaction which thaws more methane, that was about 20 years ago
i don't think your posts are very useful
"capitalism" didn't do this, men & women did, and it happened step by step
you can't hold "capitalism" accountable anymore than you can hold "russia" or "america" or "china" or "israel" accountable, it's just abstractions
also, the models you speak of are just models, they generaly have a bad track record especially at huge scales
it just seems like schizophrenia apocalypse fantascizing honestly

>>22870666
It's because capitalism cannot really care about the environment, it's an externality to the market. The profit motive will always prioritize that which generates more short-term growth even if it's unsustainable, rather than a business model which prioritizes long-term stability and viability.
The capitalist who cuts corners and doesn't care about regulations and the environment, just getting the numbers to go up no matter what, will always out-compete the "good" capitalist who cares about the environment and has more sustainable business practices.
The market economy, governed by the profit motive, has its own logic; its own laws. And the long-term existence and prosperity of humanity doesn't factor into that. Why care about what happens hundreds of years in the future when you can just get rich now? The vast majority of people do not have a say. There's de-jure democracy in most capitalist countries, but money overrides that and representatives usually reflect the will of their donors and rich lobbyists rather than their actual constituents.
Communism on the other hand doesn't have a market economy or the profit motive. Production, distribution, and exchange is done on the basis of a plan which is meant to meet people's needs. The profit motive wouldn't exist under such a system because the market economy would be replaced with a planned economy which would be both willing and able to deal with the long-term challenges that humanity faces in its development.

>>22870692
hmmm..

>>22870610 (OP)
At this point I don't give a fuck if nazi zombies or bolshevik jews take over, so long as they kill landleeches and other undesirables that feast on collective human misery. As in, kick in the fucking door and do something. Let me at 'em! Who want it?

>>22870713
I'm betting on the bolshevik jews. Betting all the money I have because I won't need it when communism comes. I'll get a free pony or something.

>>22870686
NTA but saying it's just abstractions isn't an argument...