Empathy is for losers.
Rich people get anti empathy lessons from they are kids. They learn to dehumanise most of society into human cattle. Which they functionally are. This is the right approach because most human are fucking stupid and the pretense and mask of "We are good people we do good for each other" is a cheap as fuck lie nothing different from people lying about their penis sizes.
Next time you see people in need and next time you see people asking for your kindness you just give them a cold souless stare. Because kindness is charity and nothing more. You can give it your all to the people around you and when its' their turn to do something even the smallest they will fail you. They will brainwash you and make use of you and when you become broken for good they will leave you to die and all their mimicry of being a good person just vanishes out of thin air.

You should have ZERO empathy for other people and only do the bare minimum of being a good person. Like following laws and not becoming a target.

>>22905432 (OP)
sounds like you're just resentful

>>22905432 (OP)
>Rich people get anti empathy lessons from they are kids. They learn to dehumanise most of society into human cattle. Which they functionally are
kinda, but they don't "do the bare minimum" and withhold empathy for the sake of withholding empathy
it's a much more subtle kind of selfishness

According to certain people, I am anti-empathetic. I am not rich. I'm just a loser. Explain that.

Also, why are you here again?

>>22905438
There is a reason why every wise person moves the fuck away from people. They can be resentful or peaceful about it, but the same point stands. You can't fix the mess that is humanity.

>>22905439
They only care about their family and friends. Their empathy is only withheld to their own social class their own unit. In essence they are completely psychopathic to everything else.
>>22905440
You are retarded. You can be a psychopathic and still be broke as shit.

>>22905441
>You can't fix the mess that is humanity.
i kind of agree, but the problem is a problem of scale, not of people, if that makes sense
i don't think humans can exist in groups of more than like 5000 without bad things happening
the native americans were pretty cool and happy and based, but during the same time period, the aztecs & inhabitants of modern mexico had big cities where they did slavery and hierarchies and sacrificing people by cutting their hearts out on pyramids

>>22905443
>nobody likes his autistic rants
>keeps coming back here
But no, no. I'M the one who's retarded.

but of course, if humans DO organize themselves into very big groups, those groups can always out-compete and destroy smaller groups, if they choose to
it's bad

>>22905445
Even smaller numbers than that would lead to atrocities later on eventually. You just are too naive.
>>22905448
You fuck off from my thread if you don't enjoy it here you worthless bug
>>22905449
Yes it's inevitable

>>22905455
>He still doesn't get it
Alright, whatever. Have fun talking to strangers again, Ritsu. Get some sleep when you should and keep working on whatever you do now.

Just don't go shooting up a school, ok? Norway's nice. Just because you refuse to get medicated doesn't mean they should pay some irreversible price for nothing they did wrong.

>>22905462
Kill yourself you worthless vermin

>>22905463
stooop, its fine
i appreciate your threads either way, ty

>>22905467
Why are you defending him? Is he gonna benifit you in any way? No he is just gonna go his own way. Hell you might befriend him and even with this favour in mind even with years of kindness from your side. He will still fuck you up later on just because he can. Your kindness will be worth nothing

>>22905432 (OP)
>lust provoking image

>>22905471
i'm not defending him, i'm just saying you don't have to sink to those levels, just ignore him instead
>>22905471
>Hell you might befriend him and even with this favour in mind even with years of kindness from your side. He will still fuck you up later on just because he can. Your kindness will be worth nothing
love be like "i will end in heartbreak or death"
my brothers and sisters, you made the pain of existence worthwhile

>>22905478
Control yourself you fat pig
>>22905481
I don't have to consider any level of kindness towards him other than anything that would land me in prison.
You also seem to conveniently forget how he mocked me by saying I would shoot up a school.
You just love sucking a random germans cock in front of everyone for no reason

>>22905481
PREPARE THYSELF

>>22905486
again, a lack of kindness doesn't have to mean spreading/invoking vulgar imagery & smearing shit in the readers faces
>You also seem to conveniently forget how he mocked me by saying I would shoot up a school.
you gotta learn to ignore that

>>22905491
He deserved it.
>you gotta learn to ignore that
Seems you didn't learn to ignore when I told the German to kill himself

>>22905490
JUUUDGMENT

>>22905496
>He deserved it.
that's subjective
this is how blood feuds start, and if they were allowed to escalate forever & be honored and taken to their conclusion, everyone would be DEAD

like maybe you think he deserved it, so now you're both even, but now HE thinks YOU deserve something more in order to make things "even", etc. etc.
it doesn't lead anywhere
it just makes a bigger mess
no one wants to clean up the mess

>>22905501
RIGHT. When someone else is a piece of shit to me. I have to learn to ignore it. When I retiliate because I think he deserves backlash then you question the validity behind it. You create these arguments while completely ignoring his infractions on me. You could have pointed out his moral flaws, but no it's all me. You just don't bother with the cause and effect
You are the most jewish bant poster I have ever met.
>>22905507
He was being shitty to me from the get go he already fucking thinks I deserve shitty things to happen to me. Are you friends with him or something? Why the fuck are you defending him so fucking hard

>>22905510
i cant be fucked

>>22905522
You are just reverberating the standard social brainwashing values in the west.
"Shut up and be of use to other people"

>>22905510
jews are the ones who obsess over fairness
>You create these arguments while completely ignoring his infractions on me. You could have pointed out his moral flaws, but no it's all me.
it wouldn't do anything to "point out his moral flaws", because he doesn't care
it seems like maybe you actually care
>he already fucking thinks I deserve shitty things to happen to me.
is that true? or is he just trying to fuck with you, before moving onto some other random fleeting thing?

>>22905510
i'm not trying to create arguments

i just don't want you to be misanthropic/isolated, but people are gonna fuck with you constantly
if you aren't able to ignore them, then you're gonna be denied access to the GOOD people as well, you know?

>>22905522
Now you see. I've tried talking to him in the past. He's just too unmedicated. I don't actually know if his condition has gotten worse, but I think it has. That's why I'm afraid he'll act out violently. He can't see things objectively, and even if he does hurt someone, he's not in control. He's just in a bad situation. His mother's a deadbeat and his father's gone. He has no siblings and it's difficult for him to make friends. It's not his fault he's this way.

Oh. Ami-bro's still trying. Please ignore my post then. Sorry sorry sorry I'm deleting it as fast as I can sorry sorry sorry.

>>22905530
>jews are the ones who obsess over fairness
What a joke. Surely the israel situation and them hating non jews is over fairness.
>it wouldn't do anything to "point out his moral flaws", because he doesn't care
it seems like maybe you actually care
OP topic is to not have empathy. Why are you going out of your way to punish me instead of being rightous and pointing out all the flaws in the interactions? Instead you would rather socially invalidate me in front of everyone.
>is that true? or is he just trying to fuck with you, before moving onto some other random fleeting thing?
You don't even know. You don't know yet you assume so much.
>>22905537
"Good" people are rare.
>>22905542
>he has no siblings
Not true. I have a little sister and two half brothers. Each from a different original parent lol.
You also assume too much without knowing enough

>>22905551
>What a joke. Surely the israel situation and them hating non jews is over fairness.
that's what i'm saying, it leads nowhere
it's just a pretense for "retributive justice"

you should see a therapist
not a psychiatrist who will feed you pills, but a therapist

i'm sure if i continue to say things like "i'm not trying to socially invalidate you, i'm not trying to punish you", it would just feel liek gaslighting
i really think you should go clear your head somehow, or focus on something you enjoy
this doesn't lead anywhere
if empathy is for losers, then stop giving a fuck about adversarial randos on the internet, and go accomplish something solitary

>>22905558
Anon. Do you have experience with therapists? Because you say this as if you don't. I will admit I don't have experience with therapists, but I have experience with psychologists and psychiatrists they don't get you anywhere. All they need to do is write in their paper that you are doing well. Your actual issues doesn't matter. Just what other people think does

>>22905558
No, the psychiatrist would help WAY more. He just refuses because of his liver which may be a valid point idrk.

>>22905565
I like ranting and the rational way to go about people shitting on you is to shit on them back
>>22905568
Again you think you know me, but you don't. You just like talking over me not with me or to me

>>22905566
Sorry, mate. I promise I won't stay here long but I did just realize that I'm not going to be getting any homework done anymore so I'm just going to be sitting here on /bnat/.

>>22905571
So you are bored and you have the internet you have the whole 4chan and you still decide to come to my thread

>>22905566
>but I have experience with psychologists and psychiatrists they don't get you anywhere. All they need to do is write in their paper that you are doing well. Your actual issues doesn't matter. Just what other people think does
agreed
and honestly, alot of therapists are like that as well
but the procedures for therapy are very straightforward and mundane at this point, you just gotta find a therapist who gives a fuck and who you "click" with properly
it's worth a try

>>22905580
Of course I'd stay! Our ID colors complement each other so well!

Btw, are therapists/counselors/psychologists covered with Norwegian insurance?

>>22905581
Ami-bro, what's the difference between the three? Do you know?

>>22905581
It's a waste of time. As for the therapy thing some psychologist gave me a test and said I had cptsd years ago, but nothing came out of it.
>>22905601
Yes they are, but they won't give it to me anymore after I finished high school since they no longer have a "valid reason" for me to be in "treatment". I got denied.

>>22905601
>Ami-bro, what's the difference between the three? Do you know?
psychologists focus on analyzing patients & classifying their problems
therapists focus on treating problems without medication, and finding/resolving the underlying causes
psychiatrists focus on treating/managing symptoms with medication/pharmaceuticals

there is some overlap between the three, but that's the gist

>>22906166
>finding/resolving the underlying causes
if there are any

idk what the deal is with counselors, but i think they're most similar to therapists
>>22905608
>As for the therapy thing some psychologist gave me a test and said I had cptsd years ago, but nothing came out of it.
yeah, that's usually what they do lol
>It's a waste of time
seriously, a decent therapist is not the same at all

>>22906166
counselors
Counselors was the third thing I meant. I used to see a counselor/therapist. Still don't know if they did anything, much less any good. Now I see a psychiatrist. I'm doing good. I know what the psychiatrist does.

Assuming you don't respond, I'm just going to assume that counselors and therapists are just real life BetterHelp fags who lied on their resumes. Or maybe they didn't. Maybe they said exactly what they did and that was doing jack shit and they got hired and maybe just the modern concept of therapists and counselors are broken and useless.

>>22906175
The classic good promises. From people who won't undergo or understand the procedure. Look I have had that a lot.
"Things will get better, you just have to go through more meetings, just meet some new people, fill out some forms, do some things"
and before you know it 5 years has gone and everything was worse than it started.

>>22906175
Never mind. You were just waiting to respond about the counselors. In any case, my point stands I think: Ritsu needs meds AND a therapist. CPTSD won't be solved chemically alone. He needs someone to guide him and to talk with. I just don't know how well that'll stick.

Like, I only stick now to my parents and psychiatrist because I realized after hitting a bottom point how critically your brain rules over you. Now I do my best to always make sure I have medication flowing in my system.

>>22905432 (OP)
Overconfident psychotic narcissist

>>22906205
Die

Most people just live doing whatever even if it hurts others accidentally and don't bother cleaning the mess up after them. Once the repurcussions hit they cry like they are a victim. Even though they were the ones who caused the problems and they were the one who were supposed to be responsible.
That's one of the type of people I hate the most. Cry about being unfortunate, but their stupidity, ignoroance, greed and ego caused all their problems and now OTHER people who had NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT PERSON has to clean up after them and feel all the pain.

People love bullies, rapists and warlords more than they do kind people

>>22906231
Ritsu, if you really want to rant with your 13yo. revelatory feelings like this, and you want to put your money where your mouth is, then move to some isolated place in Africa and try to live a modest and honest life and never touch the Internet ever again.

If you want to live without making any negative repercussions on other people from your living, you're – and everyone who believes this false and shallow moral code – is better off dead.

>>22906250
>If you want to live without making any negative repercussions on other people from your living, you're – and everyone who believes this false and shallow moral code – is better off dead.
>Because you living will always have negative effects on someone or something.
That's what I meant to say. Sorry for the typo/missing part.

>>22906250
Don't worry I will be more isolated pretty soon. I'm already decently isolated. My dad fucked off somewhere. Half my family is on the other side of earth. The family on this side pretty much never talks to me and secretly disowned me. My mom is also showing early signs of dementia and idk how fucked she will be in a few years.
Still I want to rant on 4chan and if you don't fucking want to see it then LEAVE.

>>22906258
I think you should be a ward of the state. Or whatever the Norwegian equivalent is. I don't know why the Norwegian medical system is so abysmally bad, especially when they have a good education system, unlike the countries touching the Mediterranean sea. You're exactly like my older brother. But I'm not a shrink and I have no idea how to fix him or at least stabilize him. And he's becoming like you. It's really perplexing and makes me wonder why am I Ok more or less. I really don't think just medication solves it as my mother thinks or the majority of ignorant people on mental health issues (despite being all "I support your struggle!" whenever mental health is mentioned).

Besides my ranting, where did the Ami go?

>>22906258
Oh, and I do have to leave soon. But don't be surprised neither if I come back later or if I bump this thread in the morning.

>>22906272
Idk where the american went and I don't trust wards. I don't trust anyone here. Pretty sure some high posistion psychologist dude was electrocuting retards a few decades ago. The whole idea about everything being good here is just a self circle jerk between middle to upper class normies.

>>22906280
No, a "ward of the state" – while I don't actually know the detailed definition – is like someone who is taken care of by the government. Like I said, I don't know the definition, but I would imagine that mental health/disabilities warrants becoming a "ward".

I'm not gonna lie: my idea of Norway being nice comes from 1. niggers don't like the cold or swim so they would avoid Norway and 2. I sometimes keep up with a Norwegian ASMR person. She's always really cute and doing cute things and is overall really happy. But she probably comes from an upper-middle class family as her family has enough for vacations and shopping trips for brand name clothes like Adidas or whatever. Also, her parents and/or siblings sometimes show up in the thumbnails so you know they aren't quite as grounded in current tastes which is "While it is sweet you want to do things together as a family, a 45yo. grown ass man forcing a smile in an ASMR thumbnail is pretty cringe." But I like that. It's very sweet and happy and innocent and coming from a like minded culture I'd like to at least visit Norvge. Unfortunately, that naiveté opens you up to niggers and letter people and whatnot.

But yeah. It's reeeeaaaaaally weird when as an American you go up to the same Germs who repeat progressive mottos about racial integration and mental health and everything and when you ask them what they want to do as a teacher they say they want to avoid brownoids or they won't handle people who are insane and just pass these people off as "weirdos".
Really weird? I meant it's shocking. It's like all my blackpill ideologies are confirmed. But I don't want them confirmed. I want to be proven wrong and see that everyone can coexist. And then that DOESN'T happen. It's awful.

I dunno what I'm saying. I'm going to terrorize the fat people thread in /soc/ one more time and dann gehe ich im Bett.

>>22906319
I meant
>but I would imagine that mental health/disabilities to your degree of severity warrants becoming a "ward" – or, if you explain your story, how you can't live properly, financially, interpersonally, or in general, and they still reject you, then Norway is seriously negligent.

>>22906319
Maybe. I get neet monies for a bit and I might get perma neet bux in the future. That could be some sort of goverment protection I guess.
So your idea of Norway is completely flawed.
There are crime ridden shithole streets here too. bye. Go do your stuff

virtue is its own reward, and who gives a fuck what anybody else thinks.

>>22906718
>Virtue is it's own reward
Keep telling yourself that while all the shitty people in your life are getting richer and happier and you are suffering all on your own

>>22906720
Let them. Doesn't change a thing.

>>22906746
It does. You try to be a good person when everyone is shit to you. It doesn't fucking work. You either become a shitty fed up person or you run away from them.
and even if you do run away the damage is done. and its not like you will just find new people who will be better they will most likely be shit too

My ultimate motivation for acting is impulse and desire. I seek for stimulation, as anything from a moth to a chimpanzee would. I look for pleasure, and thus engorge myself in anything that I can draw pleasure from. I continually return towards sources of humor, nonsense, pretty-but-useless things, and ultimately things that are strange or otherwise amusing. Thence, for me, following what I believe to be "good" or "necessary" is nothing more than a very high form of stimulation. Impeccable surfaces and orderly sets feed my desire for order and cleanliness.
I do not believe in empathy per se, but there is something in me about a wish for justice and rectitude that mentally inclinces me against any acts of injustice, because injustice and inequality are in and of themselves unappealing to me.
I do not believe that you have an obligation to think and act like I do, but I hope that you may understand that some of us out there do really believe that acting justly and doing the best we can to serve others simply feels better than merely acting in our personal interests.

With that said, you are free to do as you will.

>>22906773
They are the minority. There are genuinly good people out there. Even my mentally ill brain can recognise that. They are just much more rarer. Horrible behaviour is just more prevalant.
People never grow up from their shitty behaviours as kids.

>>22906793
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>>22908537
how come you moved to germany instead of staying in turkey?

>>22908540
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>>22908542
o.o

>>22908544
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>>22905432 (OP)
>trannyneko
>cringe opinioin
Poetry

>>22908752
trannyneko?

>>22908757
He posted character from trannyneko

Only be nice to people that deserve it.

>>22905432 (OP)
I’m ok with helping out other people, but they will never come before me. If helping that person out will negatively affect me, I will not do it. If it benefits me, or there’s no change, then sure, I’ll help.

>>22905432 (OP)

>>22905432 (OP)
>empathy is for losers

Stopped reading there