Wait what?

>>22907201 (OP)
kek yeah. it's the equivalent of your dad being a really successful business man, great husband, amazing dad, solid straight white man of the community, highly respected etc
then I come along 600yrs later and say....
>"anon? yeah, let me tell you about his dad. I totally knew him.....he was a 6'8" black homosexual soccer player that was into scat porn and beat his grandmother.
>we really respect him tho"!

>>22907201 (OP)
how does the Last Supper fit into Islam?

>>22907203
Arabs are Semitic
Jews are Semitic
Makes sense

>>22907201 (OP)
Jesus submitted to God. Simple as. He was a muslim

>>22907203
Jesus was part of the sand desert lore and so Mohammadpbuubbuh recounted the Jesus lore and therefore the record was made more holy for the fact that Mohammad Pbubbhbh deigned to recall it

>>22907201 (OP)
Lol that just has to be in europe.

>>22907201 (OP)
Muslims believe all the major figures in the bible were actually muslims.

>>22907201 (OP)
Did they seriously quote the Quran to prove that Jesus was a Muslim? Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Israel, so he would have been Jewish. What kind of idiocy am I seeing?

>>22907207
oh, don't be so sure
there's a brown wannabe-arab paki in san diego who does this every weekend
they've admitted they use those words on the tent as a way to get young (not very intelligent) white converts

>>22907201 (OP)
lol Islam didn't even exist stupid terrorists. Jesus would have called God "Elah" in Aramaic so I guess I can see how a bunch of illiterate goat fuckers could make that mistake.

Jesus Christ commands Monotheism in the Gospel, it is the First Commandment. Jesus worshiped God, not himself.

Yes, Jesus is a Muslim. Islam is the religion of Abraham, Moses, and Jesus. It means submission to God.

>>22907201 (OP)

>>22907209
The Quran is the literal word of God, so if the Quran says it, it's true.
Muslim just means follower of God, so semi-true from a secular standpoint as well.
I don't believe any in any of the desert cults, so don't get pissy, this is just what the adherents believe

You mean Isa, and he was much more than one of your collectable prophets.

>>22907201 (OP)
Ok, I'm cool with this if it means we team up against everybody else

>>22907203
They fast for 30 days after it, actually. It's called Ramadan, and it shows solidarity with Isa (Jesus) having his last meal.

>>22907201 (OP)
Islam was based on offshoot branch of the Jesus movement that didn't see Jesus as Divine. Then Mohammed call himself the Prophet of God and said that Jesus was super special Prophet just like himself but he was going to be the last Prophet just cause. They also have a Judgement Day with a return of Jesus who will return in Damascus. The Major differences between Christianity and Islam is who was Jesus, the nature of God and their relationship with God. They see Jesus as the Prophet before Muhammed, the Nature of God is that of Oneness(one person) and their relationship is not that of a Father and Son like us but of a Slave and his Master. Islam means to submit and they see everything from a Master and Slave perspective.

>>22907218
If Mohammed wasn't the last prophet, then who was? St Paul? John the Evangelist? St Augustine?

>>22907201 (OP)
>>22907202
>>22907203
>Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?
Eli = Allah

>>22907217
Not eating until it's dark isn't fasting and most of you niggers gorge on 4000 calories as soon as it's magic eating time don't act like it's any sort of actual fast to not eat during the day, big deal

>>22907208
Similarly to how Mormons decide who is Mormon by baptizing them posthumously? lel

>>22907221
You're supposed to do the exact same thing, and call it Lent.

>>22907220
allah is called "the father", and has a son called "Jesus"? cool show me that from the quran?

>>22907209
Islam is literally jewslop 4.0.
For them, All the Old and New Testament shit happened but not in the way Jews or Christians think it did.

>>22907223
No, I'm not supposed to

>>22907201 (OP)
>WE WUZ HEEBZ N SHIEET
christucks and muzztards are both aspirational jews, so it makes sense that they would make shit about about the ancient hebrews (who didn't exist as the bible says since it was written in the 3rd century BC) so they could claim purest abrahamic descent. some ortho christcucks claim that the jews of the bible were actually orthobros to justify their jew worship. it's the most poisonous LARP that has ever existed, and billions of stooges still fall for it

>>22907208
>>22907209
>>22907211
Islam did not start with Muhammad

>>22907226
So you're not a Christian?

>>22907219
St John the Baptist was the one who came to prepare the arrival of Jesus. St Paul was Jesus Apostles to the Gentiles. There are no more Prophets because Jesus was who the Prophets foretold. Jesus also told us he will come back and to live each day like it would be the last because he can come at any moment.

The reality is not so clear cut.
Like Jesus was undoubtedly a Jew, but back when Judaism was a religion not an ethnicity.
Remember this was between 4/6BC to 30/33AD, fairly recent by historical standards, and any biblical Israelites had by that time long intermixed with everyone else in the region and diluted their DNA.
So there were plenty of Egyptian Jews (as Moses was), Persian Jews, Greek Jews, Roman Jews (Paul), and Arab Jews, many of whom probably had less Jewish DNA than foreign DNA.

For some perspective, King David was around during 1000 BC, about 1000 years before Jesus was born, and even by this time Israelite lineages were heavily mixed with people of the surrounding regions. And he usurped Saul, so the lineage isn't continuous.

Another point often overlooked is that even Jewish scholars have conceded that Abraham (the father of the Jewish religion) was likely himself not Jewish. He converted to Judaism but himself was Sumerian/Mesopotamian/Babylonian.

And since Muslims consider themselves and Jesus to be descendants of Abraham, you see where this is going.

>>22907224
The fuck are you talking about?

It is well-established that "Allah" stems from "Eli"/"Elohim"/"El", etymologically speaking. Are you debating this?

>>22907229
I already posted earlier in the thread that no, I don't believe any of the mideast desert cults

>>22907201 (OP)
Eh.. he’s baiting people with this line for his campaign or whatever
That being said Jesus is well respected in Islam

>>22907227
Abraham & Moses weren't jews. Yahud is Jacob's son.

>>22907232
so Allah IS called the father, or isn't. I'm confused. can you show me that from quran?
you might want to check the fatwa "Allah is not a father".

>>22907201 (OP)
>>22907203
>>22907204
>>22907205
Not memeing super religious muslim thinks that Jesus will come back one day

>>22907208
>the major figures in the bible were actually muslims.
correct

>>22907230
Did Jesus write The Book of Revelation? Because that is a prophetic book about things to come, including Isa's return. So the man who wrote Revelation was clearly a prophet of God.

>>22907232
and remember, the crucifixion doesn't exist in islam. so whatever Jesus said in the new testament, didn't happen

>>22907231
Another thing that throws a spanner into the mix.
Jesus was actually not Christian.
Jesus was Jewish, but he didn't preach Christianity either, he preached Gnosticism, an offshoot of Judaism.
When he died, Paul latched onto the Jesus figure and started a cult around Jesus that would later become Christianity.

So in reality, Christianity was not the religion of Jesus. Christianity is a religion ABOUT Jesus, started around him mostly after his death. I think even Jesus' brother (he had many siblings) James opposed Christianity as was spread by Paul, saying it was against Jesus' own beliefs, which was primarily Gnosticism.

It's all fucked up.

>>22907238
Islam wasn't even a thing when the Bible was written. It came along about 600 years later.

>>22907221
>magic eating time
kek

>>22907242
Wrong! The Quran says it so it is true. The Quran is the word of God.

This is what Muslims believe, there is no point debating it using facts or logic.

>>22907236
>>22907240
What the fuck are you even talking about?

>>22907242
Protestanism wasn't a thing when Jesus was alive, your point?

>>22907231
>>22907241
And also, Judaism and Islam are both descended from the same earlier Canaanite religions.
They actually share belief in some parts like El/Elohim but keep in mind El/Elohim is a god from an earlier religion back when the religion was pantheistic, not monotheistic.

El had a wife, and had many children, of which yahweh was one.

>>22907246
My point is that Muslims claiming that the Bible is full of Muslims when Muslims did not even exist at that point in time is just straight up lying.

>>22907245
>nervous googling status: complete
show. me. allah. is. a. father. to. anyone. in. the. quran.
very simple. or is it?

>>22907220
>this retarded muzshit chestnut again

stupid muzshits in this thread

was the one who said eli eli Jesus barraddarr?
He was not Grucifieded, right?

you stupid muzshits in this thread?

>>22907239
A Prophet is that who is appointed to speak in the Name of God. According to Christian tradition there has not been an official Prophet since Jesus resurrection's and his Ascension to heaven. St John was an Apostle who received visions while exiled in the Island of Patmos and among the Gospel according to St John he wrote the Apocalypse of St John. Importantly Jesus warned us of False Prophets in Mathew 7:15
>Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves

>>22907248
They aren't lying. Their belief is 100% sincere. The Quran retconned it, so it so. The Quran is the infallible direct word of God, unlike the New Testament

>>22907252
>The Quran is the infallible direct word of God
can you exe-Blain what infallible is, in this context, please, shabeere qutham al fatihae?

>>22907251
>Joseph Smith enters the chat.

>>22907231
>>22907241
>>22907247
Oh and also forgot to mention that there are parts of the Jewish and Islamic lore that are OBVIOUSLY lifted/borrowed straight out of ancient Egyptian religion, Zoroastrianism, and the ancient Sumerian/Babylonian/Mesopotamian religions.

Like Noah's Ark is just a borrowed retelling of Eridu Genesis.

And to make it all more confusing, Judaism and Christianity borrowed their concept of good and evil dichotomy from Zoroastrianism, a concept we think of as fundamental to modern Judaism and Christianity. Zoroastrianism was the religion that invented the concept of a good, an evil, and man's deterministic power to live by one or the other. And they're also the religion that invented the eschatology of 'judgement day'. Before Zoroastrianism, the Jews did not have this kind of eschatological belief, nor did the Christians obviously.

>>22907253
I'm being facetious you trifling midwit

>>22907256
oh, my bad

it's the canadian flag

>>22907248
>Abraham & Moses were mentioned in the bible so they must be judeochristians
LOL

>>22907249
>>22907250
Literally the only claim I've made itt is that Allah and El are the same, etymologically speaking, and that Christ called on that deity on the cross. I don't know about all these other text walls you people are spamming, but what I said is true.

imagine being allahs

and deceiving billions of christians

because you did the ol' switcheroo on aessae PBUH PBUH

what a piece of shit huh?

>>22907231
>>22907241
>>22907247
>>22907255
So when you're believing in 'Christianity' or 'Judaism' or 'Islam', you're actually believing in a Frankenstein'd religion of a Frankenstein'd religion. A mishmash patchwork of Egyptian, Canaanite, Zoroastrianism, and Mesopotamian beliefs.

>>22907259
allah is a special given name

you say there is no god but allah when you say the shanana

the name of the God of moses is

YHVH

ELI is acceptable to refer to GOD
but ELI is not the name of YHVH

like how allah is the name of the god of the retarded pedophile

do you understand?

>>22907261
awesome replymaxx to yourself hamood

but alas, no one cares

peace!

>>22907201 (OP)
If the Quran is true, it's false.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TtI2pj8cyA

>>22907258
>Jesus was a Scientologist. Ask me why!

>>22907259
and you attached it to Jesus. from the new testament. where Jesus calls god "his father".
from a prophecy about jesus. that you've never read, because if you did, you'd know, it's a prophecy about him ON THE CROSS.
do all you converts get dumber the minute you say your shahaha?

>>22907264
very good

>>22907254
Again
>"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves,"

.

>>22907223

The lenten fast is a vegan diet with no oils or alcohol for 40 days

On feast days you can have fish (wow what a cheat)

>>22907265
>Hear o Israel your God is one (of two nature & 3 person)
It says so in the bible i have no reason to disagree

>>22907212
Yet Jesus accepted worship, and claimed preexistence with God the Father.

>>22907268
Ahhhckshully The Book of Mormon was revealed through Devine aid therefore it's proof that Joseph Smith was a prophet, checkmate bigot

>>22907212
>monotheseeeeeeieoooooo barraddarr

luciferians believe in the one lucifer, you stupid devil worshipping muzshit retards

now

why do you worship a marauding pedophile sex cult leader antichrist?

are you worse than a luciferian barraddarr?

>>22907229
That isn’t what Lent is, you hadji fuck

>>22907271
You are a warlord's personal cult faggot.

>>22907271
Hear O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. Yet Jesus is called Lord and God.

guys


guys

>>22907248
islam, christianity, and judaism are all very similar. they all follow the ten commandments don't they? They disagree on nitty details rather than the overall message.

>>22907277
The tyrant of exodus called himself lord & god so it must be true. Ponder that everytime a jew spits on you

>>22907279
Except Christians worship Jesus as God the Son, and God The Holy Spirit.

>>22907279
muzshits followeee the Denne GommandsmenDs barraddarr?

i thought the sum total of what shithampedo brought to the table was

circumstances when you can BREAK the 10 commandments barraddarr

is this a mircile of issssssssssleeeeeeeeeeeme???????????????????????????????????????????????

>>22907278
You think Europeans waited to become Christian when the Muslims showed up? Constantine had them cucked in the Fourth Century.

>>22907201 (OP)
talmud jesus = best jesus

>>22907280
didn't the God of moses told moses how He made moses like a god to the muh tryrantseeee of exodus barradarr?

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm????????????????????

>>22907201 (OP)
>Source: the Koran, 700AD

>>22907283
i don't understand what you mean

>>22907285
No he didn't? Your god is a jealous god the bible says so

>>22907279
>they all follow the ten commandments don't they?
No, because Christians are illiterate. Moses destroyed the original commandments, because he and God realized the Jews could never obey them. So Moses and God created a new set of commandments, involving the feast of the tabernacle, paying taxes to the Levites, and not boiling a goat in milk. Those are the actual Ten Commandments. Christians wrongly try to follow the destroyed commandments.

>>22907281
which i would say is a nitty gritty detail that detracts from the universal message to love yourself and those around you.

>>22907201 (OP)
Why don't they get mad about depictions of jesus then lol

>>22907201 (OP)
jews hated him because he apparently told the jews to wear a condom before molesting their son's faggot asses and they suspected jesus of being a woman

>>22907288
>And the LORD said unto Moses,
>See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh:
>and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.

you stupid donkey

>>22907217
Skipping food and water for 12 hours is not a fast lmao. Fasting is for multiple days and only consuming water or other calorieless drinks

>>22907217
ayy lmao

these stupid muzshits

>>22907293
I didn't know Moses was the fourth godhead. Now can I see that in hebrew+ talmudic tafsir?

>>22907296
pedophile worshipping imbecile

doesn't muh the DyranDseeeeee of exoduse PBUH believe in many godse barraddarr

what would be the Broblemee for him if moses is gode wallahi?

are you a mircile of issssssleeeeeeeeeme habeeb?

>>22907294
i like to call it feasting instead

>stuff face in the middle of the night
>stuff face after sunset
>DAE sacrifice for God? This is what poor ppl feel like right?

>>22907296
>tafsir talmud ibn islam
sure. here. wait, no, don't read that...

>>22907298
>have early breakfast, go to bed
>skip lunch in your sleep (this is the sacrifice)
>wake up 4 hours before you can eat again
>eat all night until breakfast

porkhamcadillacs, now you are muzlime

>>22907297
It's only a problem for christians since the tyrant of egypt & his followers are the first to enter hell not muh evil caananites. What are your thoughts on that?

>>22907299
propet ant

P. B. U. H.

make a surahe like it barraddarr

>>22907302
kek
peace, ebn akhi

>>22907301
i like it

idk

what are your thoughts on worshipping a marauding pedophile sex cult leader antichrist?

>>22907303
no buy seriously

did an ant make a quran? this is in the quran right muzshits?

ayy lmao

Sand niggers are really just stone age jews

>>22907202
All of that shit you typed doesn't make any fucking sense though
>>22907261
Fuck that Turk roach. I admire your insights and am currently probing for discoveries based off of your posts

>>22907304
Christians be provoking wars but want none of the smoke. The godless pagans you send to die for you will die a muslim, inshaallah

>>22907307
hmm

>>22907308
mhm

>>509715577
-show me the trinity from the quran (600yrs later)....not the one from Allah in the quran with Mary
-show me the resurrection from the quran (600yrs later) not the "switch theory" of allah from the gospel of thomas or pseudo-matthew.
-show me Jesus is the only son of god from quran (600yrs later
-etc etc etc
do you guys just watch youtube vids and say "YES ISLAM! sign me up!"?

>>22907307
-show me the trinity from the quran (600yrs later)....not the one from Allah in the quran with Mary
-show me the resurrection from the quran (600yrs later) not the "switch theory" of allah from the gospel of thomas or pseudo-matthew.
-show me Jesus is the only son of god from quran (600yrs later
-etc etc etc
do you guys just watch youtube vids and say "YES ISLAM! sign me up!"?

>>22907569
sounds like completely different "dads" to me.
how about you?

Fucking faggot ass /pol/ mods. Yet they leave the BBC posts alone. Fucking tranny ass fucks with no life sending a perfectly good thread to fucking die here

>>22907582
Everytime.

>>22907203
It doesn't.

>>22907234
>Isa is well respected in Islam
Fixed. Jesus is a different person from Isa

>>22907582
(((They))) have their agenda

>>22907582
its because political niggas are obsessed with weird freak shit. easy to understand cuuunntttt