What is your excuse to not be around 10-12% bodyfat?

>>22942915 (OP)
im 7% bf, its really easy, just eat meat and fruit and drink coffee and mineral water, sleep 8 hours a night and lift weights for 15 minutes 3 days a week and avoid alcohol. Im about as lazy as they come but even i can manage that

>>22942915 (OP)
too smart.

>>22942915 (OP)
i'm too poor eat a sizeable portion of chicken every day

>>22942915 (OP)
If i was at 10% bodyfat i'd weigh too little to be considered a man.

>>22942915 (OP)
I like beers

Gluttony tbqh

Alcoholism

I'm 38 and have a full time job

>>22942916
based and efficientpilled
>>22942919
This just means you have the muscle mass of a child and are fat and estrogenic like a woman

>>22942915 (OP)
10-12 is retarded
15-20 is normal optimal

>>22942923
there are more than 40 waking hours in a week, anon. You have no excuses

>>22942924
I go to the gym so it's not like i'm not trying to correct that. just got 60kg bench for reps 3 months in.

>>22942915 (OP)
7% to 30% chubby bunny for mommies milkers

>>22942915 (OP)
boobs

It’s actually pretty easy to maintain that. I’m 32 now and have had the same body more or less since I was 18

>>22942915 (OP)
i usually get down to around 12% in the summer when I am cutting and doing more outdoor activities. I find it hard to maintain long term because:
- start to feel weak in the gym
- start to feel small
- get tired of restricting calories / eating clean 98% of the time

My body likes around 15% when I'm eating more intuitively. I usually will go to the upper teens on bulk in the winter.

desu girlfriends have usually preferred a bit fluffier 15-18% look. Saying that I looked bigger and that at more shredded BF i look too "hard" or freaky. but i dont lift for women so i will continue to shred in the summer

>>22942915 (OP)
I am 10% bf due to pancreatitis, good diet and daily exercise. Pancreatitis is a bitch but pancreas friendly diet and exercise prevents skeleton mode.

>>22942915 (OP)
I have 13%
I just ate 1 meal of mostly protein a day, rucked with 120 lbs for 2 miles and did light lifting
I’m in my 30s btw so don’t fret if you think you’re too old. Also I’m literally Bangladeshi so if you use the “muh genetics” excuse then lol

>>22942921
Absolutely based tendie enjoyer. Godspeed hero.

>>22942915 (OP)
Because food tastes good and I'm old enough to be beyond giving too much of a fuck. I'm heavier than I'd like to be, but I'm not a lardass. If you wanna fight about it, I'll get my mobility cart and we can joust it out.

I like drinking and that's where basically all of my excess calories come from. I'm turning things around however and lift weights now. Added 2 inches to my upper arms in the last year. No I don't measure anything else, upper arms are the only thing that matters.

>>22942915 (OP)
im 5'10 and 165 pounds and my man boobs are MUCH bigger than that 40% fat guy.

>>22942915 (OP)
I literally am.

>>22942915 (OP)
I'm around 15%, 130+ IQ, 9 inch cock. Anything below this is not healthy, nor practical for normalfags.

>>22942935
The only reason every man isn't at least a bit overweight is women.
Only fags care about their own weight.
Every single married man has a wife nagging him when he gains some weight and limits his eating to be thin and shut her up.
Some are Chad enough to ignore them, but most will cuck out and obey.
A healthy belly is a sign of an Alfa Chad who does not bow to females.

>>22942915 (OP)
This is what MMA fighters die of pneumonia FYI

>>22942915 (OP)
Im doing better than 10% im double that 20% , 20 is better that 10. I win. Also what did caption god mean by this, puc related?

>>22942915 (OP)

I'm at 25% but I'm bulking. 5'11" went from 180lbs to 215lbs in the last two years. I'm gonna start cutting soon once I reach my strength goals. Try to get down to 15% or under 200lbs.

>>22942915 (OP)
I hover between 15-20. Unless you have an overactive thyroid or starve yourself, breaking 10% is very hard

t. Trainer

>>22942915 (OP)
>Not being 99% bodyfat
Poorfags

>>22942933
>I’m in my 30s btw so don’t fret if you think you’re too old.

Same. I'm stronger than I was in my 20's because I actually stick to a program, eat better, quit drinking alcohol, go to bed at the same time every night, etc.

>>22942915 (OP)
3-4% looks like he is going to burst a vessel.

>>22942915 (OP)
Why there no 40+%? My body type is not represented here.

>>22942915 (OP)
Judging by this picture I'm very similar to 25%

>>22942943
>I'm at 25% but I'm bulking
retard. You now have to burn so much fat you're going to fuck any muscle gains you had. You're supposed to cut to 10% then bulk to a max of like 16%. You're literally going to have to stay fat or start over KEK

>>22942915 (OP)
>What is your excuse to not be around 10-12% bodyfat?
I am. It's not really realistic to stay like this year round though, especially if you expect to make gains. I'm 3.5 weeks away from finishing a cut and I can't wait to be done with it, go on vacation, and bulk for another year.

>>22942931
>desu girlfriends have usually preferred a bit fluffier 15-18% look.
This is where you're healthiest too. It's nice to get a bit leaner for the beach during summer and more importantly to clear runway for a bulk back up to 20%.

>>22942933
Ewwww disgusting brown subhuman

>>22942915 (OP)
I love eating, and being fat.

>>22942950

Nah I read if you cut slowly with a small calorie deficit and keep lifting you can preserve most of your muscle.

Also I didn't measure it but when I started I was probably around 20~25% anyway. I wasn't shredded

>>22942955
why would you start a bulk at 20% bf, anon? This defies all logic

>>22942915 (OP)
My abs look that way, but I’m fat.

Once I finish loading up on dairy to heal an injury, I can diet.

>>22942915 (OP)
20% fat
40% skeleton
40% muscle

>>22942950
>You now have to burn so much fat you're going to fuck any muscle gains you had.
Muscle loss is a meme unless you're in an insane deficit or going below 10%.

>You're supposed to cut to 10% then bulk to a max of like 16%.
10% is pretty low and the maximum you should as a non-competitor or influencer. Even 12% is great, then bulk to 18-20%. Not like anyone gets these numbers measured accurately anyway though. Cut until your abs are diced and then bulk until just before they're gone and try to time that to take 8-12 months.

>>22942915 (OP)
I used to be 10-12% just subsiding on meat, because it's carbs that make u fat. There's nothing wrong with fat though if you are fit.

>>22942959
>Muscle loss is a meme unless you're in an insane deficit or going below 10%.
I suppose this is true, but if you get too fat your test will diminish, same as being too lean as a natural lifter. Anon should go right into a deficit NOW and keep lifting for strength and muscle mass to recomp. I just don't understand why anyone would start a bulk at 20% bodyfat. That makes no sense to me

>>22942915 (OP)
not a faggot

>>22942916
that's extremely difficult

>>22942961
>I just don't understand why anyone would start a bulk at 20% bodyfat. That makes no sense to me
May as well get your beginner gains I guess? But yeah at 25% you may as well start cutting. He can probably keep making gains as he recomps his way down anyway.

>>22942931
>desu girlfriends have usually preferred a bit fluffier 15-18% look.
this is due to insecurity on their part. I've had girlfriends try to make me fat and stop me from going to the gym. Women are retarded

>>22942923
Pathetic, I'm 39 and I have a personal trainer, sessions are usually at 9 pm on Tuesday and Friday.

>>22942953
I am disgustingly based

>>22942915 (OP)
I am but I'm bomes

>>22942956

I wasn't on a bulking program just eating more meat, eggs and greek yogurt than usual because I found it helped recovery a lot. I don't even count calories lol.

I just avoid seed oil/refined sugar slop and binge eating carbs

>>22942966
>Pathetic
>I have a personal trainer
Anon I....

>>22942933
So east indi*n or east pakist*ni?

>>22942969
If you're happy it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. But yes, probably time to lose 20 pounds or so.

>>22942970
>hurr durr
Stop being poor, you work out much better and deal better with random problems that pop up when you do what a physiotherapist tells you to. I do things that I would never do on my own and that's a good thing.

>>22942969
>I found it helped recovery a lot
yes, anon, this is called protein synthesis KEK. Protein repairs your muscles, testosterone allows you to synthesize protein. More test = more protein synthesis = faster gains and faster recovery. Keep eating lots of protein (your bodyweight is a good metric just to be sure, but I think its closer to "lean body mass weight).

>>22942965
This. They get insecure that other women might find you attractive. By the same token, as soon as you get fat they themselves will loose interest. Either way will be a battle but you may as well fight to keep what you worked for with the added bonus of getting her all riled up.

>>22942915 (OP)
35% here. Feels good man.

>>22942915 (OP)
I'm somewhere between 25-30% because I eat and drink whatever I want and never workout but still have cute girls begging me to fuck them because I am extremely popular socially and have a top 0.1% thickness dick.

>>22942971
Idk
Flip a coin ig

>>22942973
>Stop being poor,
are you serious, polish nigger? My salary in my early 20s probably dwarfs yours now stfu. Anyone who needs a personal trainer is a retarded faggot

>>22942973
>Stop being poor

Solid advice from a globohomo jew, for sure

>>22942915 (OP)
I think I'm losing weight lately, my appetite is much smaller the past few months.

>>22942916
Write back when you’re in your 40’s.

>>22942963
No, he's right. You were educated into stupidity. Literally 12+ years of your life spent learning systems that train you to be an irrelevant dumb ass pig. People who graduate college always think of themselves as the smartest people alive.

>>22942915 (OP)
I already am at 12-13%.

>>22942979
>muuh salary
You could make 5 bilion a year, your wife will still be fucked by fit "poor" trainers behind your fat nigger ass back
Money is pointless if you are a fat subhuman and defend yourself using bare hands

>>22942915 (OP)
Sub 10% is unhealthy. And 10-15% is what women find most attractive.

>>22942916
>im 7% bf, its really easy,
you aren't.

>>22942985
and can't defend yourself *

>>22942918
good news, getting lean requires zero calories.

>>22942985
KEK I have been working out and playing sports since I was a child you fucking retard. I have never seen a personal trainer with a physique better than mine, but you have fun with that copium

>>22942972

I just wanted to get to 2pl8 bench 3pl8 squat. It was an arbitrary goal that I set for myself.

Now that I've reached it I'm gonna do it for a few more weeks until it feels easier, maybe add a couple reps, then start cutting.

only woman use personal trainers and it's only because they want to fuck

>>22942926
there are only work hours, sleep hours and idle hours
there is no time in the day for "getting fit" hours

>>22942993
do as you wish, I consider the gym part of my down time

>>22942915 (OP)
Reminder that women generally prefer 15 - 25% body fat. The only reason to go lower is to attract other men.

>>22942993
Unironically, this actually works too. "I don't have time to eat right now."

>>22942994
anything that requires my muscles to exert themselves cannot by definition be considered idle hours

>>22942979
>in my early 20s
So you're young and dumb. Let me know when your physiotherapist invites you to his wedding after years of massaging you every week because everything hurts.

>>22942995
>Reminder that women generally prefer 15 - 25% body fat
then why are the men on every smut book cover in the 7-10% range? Also, attracting respect and admiration from other men gets you interest from women as well, its called social status. You don't think women would be intrigued by you if other men are constantly admiring you, asking you what your workout program is etc?

>>22942982
Ok, boomer.

>>22942998
You called me poor because I don't need a personal trainer. I said my salary dwarfed yours in my early 20s, not that I am in my early 20s still. I am early 30s. I have no joint pain anywhere of any kind. Cope more.

>>22942991
Totally valid. I personally recommend not slashing calories too low and adding some zone 2 cardio like walks or biking 5x a week. Maybe hiking or the pool with some friends too.

>>22942915 (OP)
8% is essential for organ health, anything less has to be temporary for athletic competition. Anything sub 20% is healthy in terms of body composition. These pictures are also underestimated.

I'm 60%, AMA.

>>22942915 (OP)
I had half a frozen pizza,
a pop tart,
Wheaties cereal,
Starbucks,
two pot roast sandwiches,
0 exercise.
Fuck.
That explains it.

>>22942915 (OP)
i like beer, and im not gay

>>22942915 (OP)
I am a fatmax prepper. The best way to store calories for hard times is body fat, as it is 100% natural, goes wherever you go, not very practical for others to steal, and never goes bad so long as you are alive. I would consider myself grossly irresponsible if I only had 10-12% body fat.

>>22943003
>8% is essential for organ health
>These pictures are also underestimated.
Then you're saying this is essential for organ health? This isn't healthy year round. Your hormone level are gonna be in the shitter. Anything 10-20% is going to be healthiest depending on the person.

>>22942915 (OP)
I'm a degenerate alcoholic

>>22942983
this is unrelated to the topic. that anon is not 7% and i guarantee it. you are talking about public schooling, a different subject. i am also 100% certain you are public schooled, a nigger cattle if you will.

Men are allowed to get fat because they are naturally the hunter/warrior group in society. Women don't have this excuse. Only literal faggots care about how fat another man is.

>>22943007
Okay this is actually sound logic, I kneel

>>22942916
Post body with you holding todays date written on a paper.

>>22942915 (OP)
The 20% picture is the best one there

>>22943013
why, when he can just lie?

>>22943000
I could eat and consume everything I wanted, and not be overweight, until I got into my late 30’s. Father Time will ream your ass too, you little whipper snapper, zoomer, faggot.

>>22943008
He's saying a MINIMUM of 8% is essential for organ health, not that 8% is peak for organ health kek

>>22942915 (OP)
DYEL faggot?

>>22943011
>Men are allowed to get fat because they are naturally the hunter/warrior group in society. Women don't have this excuse.
neither do you fat faggot. you out hunting? out warring? kek. fat nigger put the fork down.

>>22943008
he said "anything less" you stupid nigger.

>>22943017
>He's saying a MINIMUM of 8% is essential for organ health, not that 8% is peak for organ health kek
Id hope so lol

>>22943011
>im fat because im a warrior!

>>22943008
That's a bit low, but yes 8% is considered organ essential for men and 10% is for women. I said ORGAN essential, you need a bit more for general health and periods of short fasting that occur from living. Someone in that kind of shape is eating twice what I do to weigh probably 30% less. I did say anything sub 20% is healthy composition wise and sub 8% is temporary for athletic competition, now didn't I?

If you want to lose weight while maintaining muscle, you literally need to change your entire life. Reason being, you need to track - and weigh - everything you eat to ensure you’re operating at a deficit. If you’re not doing that now, you aren’t doing it right.
>inb4: oh yeah, well I’m at zero percent body fat and all I do is eat pretzels and fuck bitches!
No you aren’t and no you don’t. I can tell just by the way anons are responding itt, they don’t track and weigh their food. They lack the discipline to do it with any consistency and would rather eat hot pockets/drink mountain dew.

>>22943021
youre still not getting it? you cant read nigger.

>>22943011
>Only literal faggots care about how fat another man is.
I see way more men caring about the heights of other men than even women do. Also you have your shit all backwards. Women need a higher bodyfat percentage than men. It is unhealthy for a woman to sustain <20% bf and its unhealthy for a man to maintain <10%. A man should ideally be 12-15% and a woman should be 20-25%

>>22943025
nigger i go gym, i dont need to learn to read

>>22943024
It's all about logging properly and not counting exercise as new free calories. Logging exercise properly is also key too.

>>22943002

I typically walk 10k-20k steps every day at work lol so I probably just need to cut calories

>>22942915 (OP)
i look like 35%, with massive moobs. how over is it for me?

>>22942915 (OP)
20-25% is much stronger

>>22943010
100% certain; 100% wrong.

Today I ate beef meatballs and potatoes, a whole bunch of pumpkin seeds, some olives, 5-6 beers and a few sport/energy drinks

>>22942915 (OP)
food yummy, exercise boring

>>22942993
You only need like 20-30 minutes of working out a day (none of that excessively long breaks shit) and proper portion control in your diet to get results. Especially if you take the supersets approach to cut down on rest time. You can absolutely get by on a mixture of only dumbells and calisthenics (especially calisthenics for fatties who are their own lifting weight) at home. Notably if you're just trying to stay or get healthy.
Gyms are a scam for the average person who has time constraints.

>>22942915 (OP)
Not healthy. 15%-20% is ideal

>>22942915 (OP)
triple creme brie from costco

I'm not gay but I let men who are 30% abd upward body slam me.

not being a bitch that cares how he looks to women lmao. oh noooo airhead stacy wont date me! bu fucking hu

strongest guys ive ever known were +25%
gotta be big to lift big

>>22942916
>lift weights for 15 minutes 3 days a week

>>22943035
Spend $400 on a rowing machine and a set of two dumbells at 20lbs and 10lbs. That's all you need.

>>22942982
I’m in my 40’s, his method works even for oldfags like me, coffee is not good for you though, too much acid and mold.

>>22942915 (OP)
I am 25-30%, then again next year it's my 40th birthday and I am peruvian, eating good is a national hobby.

>>22943030
Start doing pecs and shoulder exercises, you get big. You need a gut to get a big chest.

>>22942989
Chick's used to do that when I was in school. Fuckin starve themselves look like Olivia Newton John. Then they eventually learn coke keeps you skinny so end up with skinny, hot, horny broads everywhere. It was impossible to not get laid.

>>22942921
Burden maxing

>>22943030
unless you are a faggot, it's not over it's just beginning

>>22942915 (OP)
Beer
Food
I don't like starving or being bored

i'm actually doing a PSMF diet for just a month since i fucked up my bulk and got too fat.

>>22943043
"In your 40s" for most of these fags is code for "I've given up and just eat goyslop my fat wife buys from all the grocer middle isles as a hobby"

I've seen it, food becomes people primary hobby once sex stops being an option

>>22943008
This. There's a reason bodybuilders drop for competitions then immediately get back up to ~10%+ bodyweight after. They know it's too dangerous to stay low for too long.

Not saying You should be a blimp. You need around 12-15% minimum from what I've read. the US Navy states Athletic body types at around 15%.

I'm at ~22%. I've been on a strict diet the past week and plan to drop as much as I can

>>22942915 (OP)
Because I can just be around 15% year round without any extra effort.

What's wrong with this thread?
Why does it have cancer?

I drink quite a bit of liquor and tried life without it. Overrated. You sober ass people run around all day every day trying to stay as busy as possible to avoid any time where you have to sit quietly and think about anything. It's so obvious you just spend all day running away. I drink liquor and accomplish the same shit.

Anyway, makes me a little fat, but fuck it.

>>22943693
>You sober ass people run around all day every day trying to stay as busy as possible to avoid any time where you have to sit quietly and think about anything. It's so obvious you just spend all day running away.
sounds like projection, unironically

>>22943709
Fair to shut me down with a response I have no way of proving incorrect. You win, I guess lmao. My evidence would all be anecdotal.