Thread 22952213

The absolute state of christcucks

WOW

inb4 it was jewish fairy tales!!!

>>22952213 (OP)
Why wouldn’t this work?

>>22952215
it was jewish fairy tales long before you said that

>>22952216
because they would eat each other?

>>22952213 (OP)
>silly Christians believe a bunch of animals boarded a gigantic ship so they could survive a flood
>smart atheists trust the science, which says that men can become women and that you need to take an untested gene therapy (rebranded as a "vaxx") to protect from the common cold

HE TURNED HER TO SALT
LMAO

>>22952218
My cat and dog and birds get along together

>>22952213 (OP)
The flood story has parallels and variations in cultures besides the Israelites, some stories are even older than the time the books of Moses were written. It's more than plausible, considering it wasn't just one tribe that passed down stories of a world wide flood.

>>22952215
So you're saying this is a Real, non-fabricated story co-authored by white jesus?

>>22952213 (OP)
Even worse, they believe a jew would engage in that much manual labour FOR FREE out of the goodness of his baby mutilating heart.
lol. LMAO even.

There was a flood and farmers saved their livestock. The same thing just happened in Texas.

>>22952226
>farmers saving their livestock
>is the same as a jew engaging in years of manual labour
>done for free
>by a jew
>our of the goodnessnkf his heart
You people are out of your fucking minds.

>>22952219
All christians believe in Noah's Ark. All atheists do not believe in progressivism. Atheism just means a lack of belief in deities. But you know this already, jew worshipper.

>>22952219
>smart atheists trust the science, which says that men can become women and that you need to take an untested gene therapy (rebranded as a "vaxx") to protect from the common cold
Incorrect. Atheists are nuanced enough to understand the difference between science and nu-"science". Didn't take the vax by the way, didn't wear the cuck muzzle either, not even once

>>22952225
>Noah
>Jewish
Who's going to tell him?

>>22952213 (OP)
Way more believable than mutated space monkeys on a spinning ball with air-pressure wrapped around it within a vacuum void, spinnin and revolving and corkscrewing in 4 constantly changing different directions without physically measuring any such thing, or even a curved water surface. You live in science fiction lala land, dude. You are deceived but you think you are not, that's what being deceived feels like.

>>22952219
So you are both retarded. Is this supposed to be a winning position you are presenting? Give up your jewish faith then, it's your standard. All you did was create an alternate standard where you can't become an atheist because of a poorly formulated strawman. So reject your kike on a stick.

>>22952213 (OP)
Cringe. I don’t know what it’s like to not feel grace, but you do. Cope

>>22952213 (OP)
That's a children's book little feller. The bible doesn't have horses and giraffes and shit

Keep reading children's books to own us, you will seem smart

>>22952213 (OP)
There are over 5.5 million different species of bugs on the planet image all or them being on the ark. Each one of them would require different humidities and diets how would you even achieve something like this

>>22952213 (OP)
Lurk about the rape of Noah. Either sons of Noah were gay, either Noah was a woman.

>>22952213 (OP)
>the animals went in two by two,
>the elephant and the kangaroo,
>and they all went into the Ark
>for to get out of the rain
true story, u guise, there's even a song about it

>>22952235
By reading the bible and not base theology on a picture book made by kids and try to convince us you're not an idiot

>>22952213 (OP)
I am becoming more in touch with my spiritual side and am exploring Christianity but struggling with shit like this. I just cannot see any proof of it happening or their god being the one.

>>22952229
>TV is bad because it's Jewish
TV is bad because Jews promote pornography, sodomy and degeneracy through it. Name at least one verse in the Bible doing just that.

>>22952222
its equally possible that the memory of the same event was recorded by different groups of people as the different tribes developed and moved apart.

>>22952216
it would. have you heard of the ark feasibility study?
https://store.icr.org/noahs-ark-a-feasibility-study.html

its a good book, and there are ways to get a digital preview of it before you buy

>>22952235
Who said individual species? It says two of every animal not species. And the bugs can probably survive on some driftwood

>>22952231
So make up any lore you want. How does the kike on a stick become true in your mind? Batman created the planet just for you and your tiny brain. There is a simple lore for you to understand and holds just as much weight.

>>22952239
if you take the Bible literally you're gonna have a hard time lol

>>22952232
>jewish faith
No such thing
>kike on a stick.
*Lord in heaven

>>22952239
Weird. You have explored Christianity but not yet read the bible which doesn't have all animals in the world on one ark.

Hmmm. I suppose you may be too retarded to save.

>>22952213 (OP)
the hardest part to believe about this story is that anyone would love mankind enough to let 8 people live.
Legitimately this is a huge part of why I became a believer. Big guy should have wiped us out completely, clear proof this story was not invented by a human, it's literally beyond belief in the mercy department.

>>22952238
So Noah didn't bring twi of every animal into the ark

>>22952247
Well that's not the story but thanks for sharing

Noah built an ark.
>whats an ark
Its a boat
>a boat

No it ISNT its an ARK. Stop dumbing down the bible.

>>22952231
Creationists are not flat earthers. Stop your attempts to discredit this by associating it with flat earth nonsense.

>>22952239
you might find some reason and evidence to help you on your way at a these sites anon;

answersingenesis
creation.com
icr

remember - there are thousands of creation believing accredited professional scientists looking at this stuff. its at least worth seeing what they have to say.

>>22952248
No.

>Every culture around the world has a catastrophic flooding story of their mythic past.

Don't go to doggerland tomorrow, some of tou guys are alright.

>>22952238
>heLordthen said to Noah, “Go into the ark, you and your whole family,because I have found you >righteousin this generation.2Take with you seven pairs of every kind of cleananimal, a male and its mate, and one pair of every kind of unclean >animal, a male and its mate,3and also seven pairs of every kind of bird, male and female, to keep their various kinds alivethroughout the >earth.4Seven days from now I will send rainon the earthfor forty daysand forty nights,and I will wipe from the face of the earth every living creature I have made.”

What did we discover? Oh that the lie is even more absurd then the picture?

And the average atheist thinks we are evolved monkeys from the ocean and that the big bang is also still a theory lmao don't know how anaesthesia works but yeah we know how everything in the universe works lmaoooo

What pagans and scientific atheists believe is 10x dumber. In regard to the former, they just cope and pretend it was always understood as allegory, which is not true, and in regard to the latter, they just suffer cognitive dissonance about just how retarded the scientific worldview really is. If you would rather believe some ice melted off a world tree or that the earth was water and you crawled out of it as a tadpole and morphed into a monkey go ahead lmao.

>>22952247
now thats the Christian way to look at it anon, God has blessed you with a contrite heart and knowledge of sin.

>>22952249
it is as it happens.

>>22952213 (OP)
let's see your boat

>>22952248
not of every kind. some it was 7 pairs, some it was 1 pair

>>22952242
Kek so how do all the stuff like earthworms survive. They normally drowned during floods

>>22952230
You can't because that's all these retards focus on.

>>22952254
We have discovered that you have not read the KJV because you find reading hard and this means you understand this

As a former teacher, it's at this point I just let you carry on thinking garbage since it's not possible to get through to you.

Well done for trying. Have you considered a trade job?

>>22952258
what color is your ark?

>>22952247
It's an example for us. We build our ark which is our faith in Jesus so that we can be saved from the eventual judgement that will come. Do you think that the people during Noah's time were worse than the people today? Jesus talked about this when they informed him about the Galilean that the Pilates had killed "do you think they were more sinful than anyone else? No, but verily I say unto you the same will happen to you if you don't repent."

>>22952257
No. Nothing like it. Just animals need to restart civilization. The whole series of animals like wolves and shit is a dream visions by Enoch about end times.

>>22952255
So you know somehow? Oh wait that was self admition that you are retarded and you refuse to explore for further explanation because as a child you were inducted into a jewish cult like your parents and your parents parents.

>>22952213 (OP)
Most faiths have a flood story. Shouldn't this tell you something?

By replying, you encourage these kind of threads on /pol/

>>22952240
All of them promote degeneracy. Literally all of Genesis is make-believe. Have you even read your favorite work of fiction?

>>22952254
You can tell the story is made up because it talks about clean and unclean animals when God hasn't even brought up clean animals yet.

The kosher laws don't exist into Abraham. At this point in the Bible humans are not allowed to eat meat but for some reason it mentions clean and unclean animals

>>22952213 (OP)
Atheists are cancer.

>>22952267
It's all explained in the Bible. Anything not explained I give it to God
>What do you mean I have to be a good person to go to heaven HOW DARE YOU INSINUATE I CAN BE A GOOD PERSON REEEEEEEEE
Fucking faggot lmao I won't cast my pearls before swine as you are not of Christ and represent the anti Christ. Have fun molesting children, a baseball bat is coming to remove your brains from your skull soon.
Also
>falling for Jewish propaganda and gooning all day is not good for you

>>22952271
Sure it does, you're just retarded and haven't read the Bible and rely on snippets from a.i. and Google to tell you what to say, antichrist

>>22952273
Meme flag defending Christianity is it a slow day in Israel

>>22952246
Who said I haven't read the Bible?

>>22952260
it took a long time to build that ark anon. in that time and during all that moving stuff in and around the ark, some worms getting on there isn't that much of a stretch. think of what you might want to put in some of the animal pens to soak up urine and general make them at home - grass and for some, soil.

its all possible that they were carried around the roots of trees uprooted by flooding. trees tend to form treerafts and float around all attached to each other. same for lots of other bugs and stuff

https://answersingenesis.org/the-flood/global/floating-log-rafts/

https://answersingenesis.org/biology/plants/how-did-plants-survive-and-disperse-after-flood/?srsltid=AfmBOoqJKael6CYT56lYOYFC2hHu4dCH6awnFCXB43PHe3_ftOgC1Rdg

>>22952213 (OP)
>jew writes book
>christians to blame
why do atheists love jews so much?

>>22952256
Oh it's allegory.

Jesus is an allegory for jewish magic communism. Pick either path at least you are smatter then the average christ cuck and you see the retarded fruitless endeavors of promoting the Bible as literal history. A disaster of a strategy if you want a religion to be both thrive and be true because all it takes is one major inconsist passage/tale, which it's chalked full of, and the whole thing is false. We already know half these tales were stolen from the assyurians and other various ancient tribes.

>>22952265
>No. Nothing like it. Just animals need to restart civilization
but the 8 people in the ark with the animals is the story anon. thats all the other germanon was saying.

>>22952279
that part of the bible where it says women should obey their husbands is also an allegory
just so you know
lol

>>22952266
>TWC India

Come on now.

>>22952278
We don't

I have never met an atheist that was pro Israel but Christians in the Bible Belt will send 10% of their paycheck to Israel

>>22952274
You post YOUR passage then. You have the truth right? Cough it up so we can laugh You pseudo jew. Lie like the subhuman you are.

how did sea shells get on top of mount everest?

>>22952280
It's jewish fantasy. I bet there is debate in the Talmud about whether they banged the animals much like how jews debate that's what Adam was doing in the garden of eden.

>>22952286
flood stories are everywhere, not just in the Bible.

>>22952213 (OP)
No, your great grandfather was a fish and your grandfather a lizard. That's more rational.

>>22952218
Kent hovind says nothing ate meat until a certain point. Interesting but I haven’t fleshed it all out.

>>22952288
That's why the pope wears a fish hat

>>22952233
The "apostles died to spread Jesus' word" is so retarded, like do you know who Jim Jones was? Tons of people die for their retarded and fake beliefs all the time.

>>22952231
>Way more believable
If you are stupid enough, that's probably true.

>>22952285
We find ammonite fossils (squids with coiled shells) in limestone layers, high up in the Himalayas in Nepal, near the top of Mount Everest. Of course, Mount Everest wasn’t there before the flood, so the ocean waters didn’t have to rise to over 29,000 feet (8,840 m) above current sea level to cover it. Instead, the sedimentary layers now making up the Himalayas were first deposited on the continent during the flood. The layers buckled and uplifted at the end of the flood to form the towering Himalayan mountains we see today.

Similarly, we find marine fossils in most rock layers exposed in the Grand Canyon’s walls in Arizona. At over 2,950 feet (900 m) above sea level, the Redwall Limestone is one of the best examples of these rock layers. It commonly contains fossil brachiopods (clam-like organisms), corals, bryozoans (lace corals), crinoids (sea lilies), bivalves (clams), gastropods (marine snails), trilobites (horseshoe crab-like animals), cephalopods (squid-like creatures), and even fish teeth.

https://answersingenesis.org/the-flood/global/evidences-genesis-flood/

the Bible describes that there was quite a bit of stuff going on during the flood, not just rising waters. it was Gods clean sweep. He churned the land up quite a bit to get rid of all the works of evil men.

>>22952213 (OP)
Yeah, it's a myth, based on earlier myths. Doesn't change the fact that OP is a baitposting faggot. Clean it up, jannies.

>>22952291
its one thing to get all worked up into a high state of excitement and then all drink the kool-aid (i know, it wasnt kool-aid) or press the detonator, and quite another to spend years and years under constant persecution then have every opportunity to live just by renouncing Christ and offering the statue of Cesar a pinch of incense.

>>22952289
"Magic."

-Kent Hovind

>>22952293
>Mount Everest wasn’t there before the flood

no, it was completely submerged under water. Those are all atheist conspiracies. There are no dinosaurs either, go to any museum and the "dinosaur evidence" is really paper maché. We are living in such levels of delusion because you have no faith and rejected the truth

The presumption of every christian is that jews don't lie.

>>22952213 (OP)
It's a metaphor for surviving the large scale flooding after the end of the Younger Dryas period

>>22952213 (OP)
I'm not even Christian but I believe it's based on at least some truth. Some details were likely embellished or misunderstood over the years, but we literally fucking found Noah's arc, so it's kind of difficult to argue nothing happened in good faith. Then again, hardly anyone argues anything in good faith anymore.

>>22952288
You're great grandfather was dirt and your great-grandmother was a rib

>>22952219
>Atheists are da stupid so we can also be stupid!!!

>>22952300
>but we literally fucking found Noah's arc
Yeah no

>>22952297
the general creationist position is that there was a lot of earth changes during the flood. the Bible does indicate this. it may be that everest was forced up very quickly as the fountains of the deep burst forth, causing things to shift and change.

>>22952300
>we literally fucking found Noah's arc
maaaybe, but its hardly conclusive that the formation on Ararat is actually whats left of the ark.

>>22952300
https://youtu.be/HUtZoFN3cB8?si=G7k_nAtzRA4qBzZs

>>22952304
>general creationist position
No, you are listening to the liberal Jesuit catholics too much. They love to get you when they are young and to teach you to love men rather than God.

>>22952301
Unironically.

>>22952297
Log off, Kent.

>>22952270
Name a single verse that promotes degeneracy, nay encourages it even.

>>22952251
>Creationists are not flat earthers. Stop your attempts to discredit this by associating it with flat earth nonsense.
Maybe so but all flat earthers are creationists.
And then you got the young earth folk.
Then you also got the dinosaurs aren't real folk.

Many creationists are convinced there is some global satanic conspiracy to make you hate God through the use of a round earth, dinosaurs, and anything dated as older than 6k years.

>>22952305
This. It could be, but it's not definitive.

>>22952275
Zero arguments against my point
You are a kike and enjoy the presence of naked minors

>>22952284
What even is the argument

>>22952289
Doesn't agree with Ken Ham? That everything ate plants until le fall happened?

>>22952213 (OP)
Makes more sense when you realize it was a spaceship carrying the genomic data of all life on earth.

>>22952311
>Maybe so but all flat earthers are creationists.
most of them are just trolls and shills out to shit up the board. theres also absolutely no reason to think that God had to have created their snowdome earth. could just as well be aliens, if you dont believe in God.

what im trying to get across though is that the serious creationist scientists are NOT flat earthers.

>>22952213 (OP)
It's funny because that's not even how the Bible describes the Ark and the animals.

>>22952316
>Flat earth is silly. Obviously the earth is round, just like the sky wizard designed it.

>>22952314
i think thats the usual idea, because before the fall its generally thought that there was no death or killing etc.

https://answersingenesis.org/death-before-sin/animal-death-before-the-fall/

>>22952291
They were all brutally tortured to death so they would "confess" they hadn't seen the risen Christ after all. None of them denied it, because they knew they had eternal life in Christ.

>>22952213 (OP)
It was a different time

>>22952306
huh, that was a good vid.

You guys realize a lot of these stories are for children up to young adults to try to impart some moral values on them right?

Some of it is mythological accounts of historical events much like the Greek myths are (gods fighting each other are wars between city states).
And on some level trying to explain realities of the world through mythology.

In the ark case it's likely referring to a massive flooding event caused by some natural disaster....a story passed down over and over again.

But other things are pretty damn simple.

>Why do people die?
That's the adam and eve story and it comes with a bonus as to the importance of doing what you're told/obedient.
>Why are there different languages
That's your tower of babel story and the deeper moral there is how multiculturalism destroys great societies.
>Why are those cities in ruins and abandoned
That's your soddon and gamorah tale which combines morals of be a good host and try not to live among degenerates as you might not be as lucky as Lot when shit hits the fan.

>>22952310
All of them. Every one of them.
>Let there be light
Never happened. Stop believing in fairy tales -- especially Jewish psyops.

>>22952240
>>22952310
You may be a leaf but you're also truly my brother. Godspeed.

>>22952323
>In the ark case it's likely referring to a massive flooding event caused by some natural disaster.
sure, all over the world with a similar cast. and it wasn't a natural disaster so much as it was God getting rid of a lot of bad dudes.

>>22952213 (OP)
Actual arks:

https://youtu.be/GwkqLv-fOjg?t=2209

>>22952213 (OP)
>>22952218
>God does thing that are incomprehensible to humans
no fucking shit

>>22952320
The stories of the apostles being martyred are mostly church tradition. There's only accounts for like 2 or 3.

>>22952328
>a wizard did it.

>>22952320
>They were all brutally tortured to death so they would "confess" they hadn't seen the risen Christ after all
source:made up by churchfags hundred years later

>>22952227
>>farmers saving their livestock
>>is the same as a jew engaging in years of manual labour
Noah wasn't a Jew. Jews wouldn't exist for thousands of years. Noah is an archaic hero who belongs to us all.
>vestigal memory of collapse of Black Sea dam to Mediterranean
>early pastoralist saves his flock
>fast forward

>>22952329
theres also quite a bit of such stuff mentioned in contemporary documents. the NT sets the scene right from the start with Stephen. Paul was sent to Rome for the purpose of being killed too.

>>22952213 (OP)
"Dinosaurs in the Bible": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6f_U_9xwBk

Tackles Noah's flood.

>>22952326
Yeah probably a big fucking meteor hitting the ocean. It's also possible the event happened way farther than any recorded history and what you have are stories that stuck as people migrated around and cultures spawned and evolved where they settled and then morphed to fit the evolving culture.

And as for God getting rid of bad dudes...why not just zap them away? Just make them poof and be gone or drop dead instantly?
You can target and kill all the first borns in Egypt somehow magically but can't do that for everyone you don't like?

>>22952213 (OP)

And there's nothing implausible about this, anon.
Seethe and cope that you will never own a boat and a lifetime of animal companions.

>>22952213 (OP)
the arc of noah was literally found in mount Ararat dumbass
atheist believe in the initial state,the big bang and abiogenesis, which are all equally fantastical miracles with no proof or evidence besides speculation and theory

it's not science since you need a observation before applying the scientific method

>>22952333
>using the bible to prove the bible

>>22952331
maybe not

https://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/92097/is-there-any-extra-biblical-evidence-that-shows-the-apostles-were-martyred

That Christians in general were persecuted and put to death for their faith is really not debatable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_Roman_Empire

>>22952268
>Most faiths have a flood story. Shouldn't this tell you something?
That flooding is one of civilization's greatest threats?
>and Lo, Behold, the Lord spreadeth his waters
>and the New York City Subway flooded, yeteth againeth

Okay, let's narrow it down to birds and animals that crawl on legs (mammals, reptiles, amphibians). We're still excluding insects and other invertebrates without legs, as well as marine creatures that don't crawl on land.

Pure Measurements:

Birds: Approximately 11,145 species. Total individuals: 2×11,145=22,290.

Mammals: Approximately 6,640 species. Total individuals: 2×6,640=13,280.

Reptiles: Approximately 12,000 species (excluding birds which are technically reptiles in a cladistic sense, but here we consider traditional reptiles like snakes, lizards, turtles, crocodiles). Total individuals: 2×12,000=24,000.

Amphibians: Approximately 8,000 species. Total individuals: 2×8,000=16,000.

Total Species (approximate): 11,145+6,640+12,000+8,000≈37,785 species
Total Individuals (approximate): 2×37,785≈75,570 individuals

Size Range: Still vast, from hummingbirds (a few grams) to blue whales (though you specified "on legs", so this excludes true aquatic mammals without crawling ability, meaning large land mammals like elephants and giraffes would be the largest). Smallest reptiles/amphibians can be tiny, a few millimeters, while largest like crocodiles can be many meters long.

Simple Concise Explanation:

A boat to hold two of every bird, mammal, reptile, and amphibian species (approximately 75,000 individuals) would need to be enormous. It would require dedicated habitats for diverse needs (e.g., aviaries, vast enclosures for elephants, humid tanks for amphibians, heated zones for reptiles), along with immense resources for food and environmental control, making it a monumental and complex engineering challenge, likely impossible on a single vessel.

>>22952337
>a bunch of lies and strawmen
What a faggot.

>>22952315
Finally someone else mentioned it, advanced technology. Probably organic, so that it returns to the Earth instead of littering. There's so much about the universe and technological possibilities we don't understand.

>>22952335
>Yeah probably a big fucking meteor hitting the ocean.
i guess thats your article of faith.
>It's also possible the event happened way farther than any recorded history
possibly. though we have some possible timeline in the Bible, its not 100% agreed upon and there could be some wiggle room in there. not for millions of years but some Christians do think it could be 10-20000 years since creation rather than the usual ~6000ish. either way, i have no problem saying that yes, the memory of the event was passed down through numerous different cultures over time, which is why it shows up all around the world.
>why not just zap them away?
>why not X, Y Z??
because God chose to do it that way.

>>22952337
If the whole world was flooded where did all the water go? Where did it come from?
There should be enough water to flood the whole world still but we don't. Even if the icecaps melt.

>>22952342
op? yeah absolutely
don't start with me faggot.

>>22952229

Smart atheists swear there ain't no Heaven, but pray there ain't no Hell.

>>22952338
see
>>22952339
the point was that no one reading Acts back in the 1st and 2nd centuries would have thought it strange to see Christians being killed for their faith in Christ.

>>22952341
why do amphibians need to be on the ark? same for many reptiles.

>>22952345
subterranean pockets of water and the icecaps
how did bronze age retards know about the trenches of the ocean? hub funny that.

>>22952343
E1 18. Just live your eighty years and be happy.

>>22952344
>because God chose to do it that way.
Ah yes...the eternal copout. Learn that from Job did you.
Don't ask questions about what happened and why and how just deal with it.

>>22952341
Biblical Ark Dimensions (Genesis 6:15, with 18-inch cubit):

Length: 450 feet (137.16 meters)

Width: 75 feet (22.86 meters)

Height: 45 feet (13.72 meters)

My Estimated Dimensions for "Two of Every Bird, Mammal, Reptile, and Amphibian Species":

Length: 3 to 5 kilometers (3,000 to 5,000 meters or 9,840 to 16,400 feet)

Width: 1 to 2 kilometers (1,000 to 2,000 meters or 3,280 to 6,560 feet)

Height: 200 to 500+ meters (650 to 1,600+ feet)

The Difference in Scale:

The difference is astronomical. My estimated dimensions are vastly, vastly larger than the biblical Ark's dimensions:

Length: My estimate is 22 to 36 times longer than the biblical Ark.

Width: My estimate is 44 to 87 times wider than the biblical Ark.

Height: My estimate is 4.4 to 11 times taller than the biblical Ark

In simple terms, the biblical Ark (even with its considerable size for ancient times) would be incredibly tiny compared to the vessel required to house two of every single bird, mammal, reptile, and amphibian species with adequate habitat and life support. It highlights the immense scale of biodiversity when considering every single species rather than "kinds."

>>22952333
So what? Stephen was not one of the twelve apostles and theres no indication he met Jesus.

>>22952349
While removing amphibians and reptiles would reduce the total number of "kinds" (or species) somewhat, it doesn't fundamentally change the core arguments for or against the Ark's feasibility.

Christcuckery is literally fucking impossible and this is one example of many. thank god I can have AI cook this argument so plainly

>>22952348
Are we talking about the 12 apostles or early christians? Make up your mind.

>>22952345
the Bible indicates that much of the water came from under the earth. even today we are well acquainted with huge underground aquifers and stuff, plus they do say that theres more water in the upper crust right now than there is in all the oceans.

>>22952346
Because you'll lose like in every previous thread.

>>22952213 (OP)
Every ancient culture has a great flood myth

>>22952352
He tells us why He did it that way. it was also part of telling us about Jesus.

>>22952354
thats not really all that important. the NT makes it quite clear that dying for your faith in Christ was not a terribly unlikely event.

>>22952355
maybe look for this book and see what you think:
>>22952241
you can find it for free if you want.

>>22952355
also
https://answersingenesis.org/noahs-ark/how-could-all-animals-fit-ark/?srsltid=AfmBOorVYWcLyLXigqEeGtanuT58btc8KGZmKidZYaLMcfB5BrChnDi9

creation sites have spent some time working on this question anon. you can find your answer there. you're not the first to think of it.

>>22952355
this looks more comprehensive and it references the book i mentioned
https://creation.com/en/articles/animals-on-noahs-ark-cab-13

>>22952360
It is terribly important.
The topic only concerns Christians that actually met Jesus and then got killed because they refused to give up their beliefs, since if they saw the resurrected Jesus they wouldnt doubt those beliefs under any circumstance. And the fact that they got killed is then supposed to be proof of the resurrection and veracity of anything Jesus teaches. Stephen didnt 'see' but believed anyway and got stoned for it. The manner of deaths of the apostles or if they even had a choice to retract their belief in Jesus to save themselves is simply not well established.

>>22952362
>Rapid Speciation: The rate of post-Flood diversification required to produce the millions of species we see today from a few thousand "kinds" in just a few thousand years is far greater than observed rates of evolution.

>Genetic Bottleneck: A population bottleneck of only two individuals per "kind" would create extreme genetic uniformity, making the subsequent diversification to the vast genetic diversity we see today highly improbable without numerous mutations and rapid evolutionary processes.

>Global Flood Evidence: The geological and biological evidence for a global flood of the kind described in Genesis is not supported by mainstream science.

If you had only two of each kind, we would be in a massive incest pickle.

>>22952358
do you even know what the initial state is?
get on my level before talking out your blown out asshole
no internal critiques? ha

More truthnukes:

>Geology:

>No Global Flood Layer: Earth's geology shows no evidence of a single, universal flood sediment layer.

>Continuous Records: Ice cores and lakebeds show continuous, undisturbed records for hundreds of thousands of years, unaffected by any global flood.

>Old Formations Exist: Mountains, canyons, and ancient soils show gradual formation over millions of years, not rapid flood activity.

>Evaporites Exist: Vast salt deposits require long-term, localized evaporation, impossible during a global flood.

>Biology/Ecology:

>Genetic Bottleneck: Animal populations show far too much genetic diversity to have come from just a few pairs (kinds) a few thousand years ago.

>Biogeography Disproved: Animal distribution (e.g., kangaroos only in Australia) is explained by millions of years of evolution and continental drift, not post-Ark migration.

>Rapid Speciation Unlikely: The speed needed for thousands of "kinds" to diversify into millions of species in a few millennia is scientifically impossible.

>Ecological Impossibility: Maintaining diverse species with specific diets and environmental needs on one ark for a year is biologically unsustainable.

Physics/Hydrology:

>Not Enough Water: There simply isn't enough water on Earth to cover all mountains; no scientific source exists for the volume needed.

>Where Did Water Go?: No known natural mechanism explains the rapid disappearance of that much global floodwater.

>Wooden Ark Fragility: A wooden ship that size (500+ ft) would structurally fail in turbulent global floodwaters; it's beyond ancient shipbuilding capabilities.

>Logistics Insurmountable: Eight people could not manage feeding, watering, and waste for thousands of animals for a year without constant, impossible-to-explain supernatural aid.

Are we really gonna trust the jews who tell people to cut their dick skin off or are we gonna apply some common sense to this issue

>>22952363
>Stephen didnt 'see'
He did see though. it says right there in the book
>is simply not well established.
what would you expect? and is it reasonable to expect it when what you're dealing with are some nobodies from Nowhereistan, getting mob 'justice' for pushing some cult?
Some mentions in early christian literature and a general program of persecution from the secular authorities is pretty good when yu think about it.

>>22952364
>massive incest pickle.
may not have been so much of an issue back then given the Biblical data suggesting that genetic corruption was much less that long ago, and has accelerated to the modern day, where our life spans are FAR less then people had.

>>22952216
Because with a breeding pool that shallow, inbreeding would become inevitable for every species on the ark, including humans.

>>22952213 (OP)
The writing style of the time was allegorical, so reading those writings as if they were a newspaper, that is, in a literal sense, is characteristic of ignorant retards

>>22952365
We have no way of knowing the state of the universe prior to the planck time.

>>22952368
only if we assume that they all had the same problems as we have now. there was no prohibition against close kin marriage and childbearing until a lot later on in the Bible.

>>22952367
I didn't know the bible authors knew about dna.

Now to pivot and highlight some bible (aka the talmud) verses that will make you goys wince if you have any common sense as a white man

>Psalm 137:8-9: "Daughter Babylon, doomed to destruction, happy is the one who repays you according to what you have done to us. Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks."
>Deuteronomy 22:28-29: "If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives."
>Deuteronomy 21:18-21: (The "Rebellious Son" passage) "If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son... his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders... All the men of his town are to stone him to death."
>Genesis 19:8: (Lot offering his virgin daughters to the mob) "Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them. But don’t do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof."
>Gang rape time!

Should I continue?

look, got to go. im not trying to avoid your replies. but if you look at the sites ive mentioned itt you'll be able to start getting into the creation worldview and find answers to your objections.

>>22952373
but God did

>>22952278
Kikes are often outspoken atheists while still being a part of the tribe. Non-kike atheist gladly lap up their propaganda.

>>22952306
>Muh cartoon
What is it with atheist youtubers and using cartoons for themselves?

>>22952359
this

>>22952213 (OP)
As a Christian I only believe in Jesus and what his life was about, that's about it.
He whipped jews, called them out, then they killed him but he was too based and got up, fucked around for three days and then went back to heaven.

>>22952213 (OP)
Weird that you don't mention that kikes and every flavor of nigger believes the same
Why is that?

>>22952268
It certainly doesn't mean the Noah story or the jewish god is real.

>>22952377
I don't care about atheistic kikes. I hate kikes and I'm atheist. Because I don't get caught up in emotional jewish fairy tales. You were likely beaten by your parents or had an abusive household, which fucked you up and made you constantly looking for an authority figure to tell you right from wrong. It's very common among females who get raped. it's why jeffrey epstein loved raping little girls so much

>>22952376
Sure, bro.

>>22952377
>I can't refute it, so I'm going to rag on the cartoon avatar.

>>22952213 (OP)
Denounce the Talmud

>>22952371
so you take it on faith
interesting

>>22952377
The thing about the "universal flood myth" is that the only myth which really is "universal globe flooding" is in the talmud aka bible. The rest of the flood myths are localized/regional and probably just retellings of literal floods that did happen.

>>22952380
It's all real. It's just been thousands of years and the caretaker of the story is a hairless ape who lives eighty years if he's lucky...so now it all sounds like a cartoon.

>>22952385
I said I don't know. That's not faith. Stop being dishonest.

>>22952268
Every cradle of civilization happened in a flood plain. It'd be stranger if there wasn't flood myths everywhere.

>>22952213 (OP)
I don't understand this argument. If one already believes in an omniscient god, why would the story of Noah's Ark be a stretch? Such a god could surely make the animals behave and provide for them.

Were all 1-34yo children around the world during the flood so bad, evil and sinful that God killed them all and saved only his favourite few jews?

>>22952390
>omniscient
Sorry, omnipotent.

>>22952300
>but we literally fucking found Noah's arc
No, we haven't.

>>22952390
Then why not just painlessly kill all the bad humans and make their bodies evaporate?

>>22952216
It would, whether that actually means anything or not. The ark's measurements, as recorded, are fucking huge and would definitely hold all specimens - from the KNOWN world at the time - plus food.

>>22952394
Doesn't make for good reading millennia later

>>22952213 (OP)
The kikes stole that story from The Epic of Gilgamesh.
Literally almost a 1 to 1 copy, the prophet, the ark, the animals.

>>22952372
Because the old Testament is four fifths mythology. There is no evidence that the mechanisms of heredity did not function the same way today than in the Neolithic.

>>22952326
Everywhere in the world has floods at some point in time it's not that crazy to think that everybody would create different flood stories.

>>22952349
If my bearded dragon drops below a certain temperature he just fucking dies. Many eptiles would be way more vulnerable to dying in a flood than a lot of mammals.

You are just choosing to be retarded

>>22952213 (OP)
>mudslimes lick a cube's butthole and kill people they dont like (mostly other mudslimes and its perfectly acceptable also NO FUCKING PORK)
>kikes mutilate and rape kids and do everything in their power to be a cancer to the country they are in
>atheists talk alot about science but dont know shit about it eventualy they troon out and sexually identify as a fridge
>budha fags delete themselves with fire for no reason
>poos shit in the street, rape anything that moves and drive their car everywhere except the road
>satanists are emo forever alone retards that wish with every fiber of their being that they were born a jew

so which team are you OP? im guessing you are a kike because no one else is as obsessed about christians as they are

>>22952374
I always thought that the part where Lot gets raped by his own daughters was kinda hot.

>>22952213 (OP)
uh...there might have been some hyperbole about it... but nothing says it's not possible to transport many animals on a boat, if only you have a little bit of hutzpah

>>22952278
guess who the first christians were

>Lizard evolves into a lizard
>"Makes sense to me, can't expect all of them to fit on the ark!"
>Monkey evolves into a to monkey
>"AIGHT, HOL THE FUCK UP MISTER JUST YOU CROSSED THE FUCKING LINE!!"

>>22952404
based kikes?

>>22952405
Christians pick and choose what they believe they lie just as much as Jews

>>22952406
>based kikes?
the christcuck's final form

>>22952407
>the bible says it
>I interpret it
>I believe it
>that settles it

>>22952403
>the ark? Well, exaggerrated legend. Crucifixion and resurrection? Totally happened as written.

>>22952213 (OP)
>saving animals on a boat during a flood is CRAZZZZZY
logistical illiterate faggot identified.
I’m going to be honest here for a moment. If you don’t believe in Noah’s ark after they’ve found it and identified it already, then you’re in denial and incapable of understanding reality

>>22952411
>If you don’t believe in Noah’s ark after they’ve found it and identified it already,

>>22952213 (OP)
sure, some of the things Christians believe are silly.
But on the other hand, a lot of atheists believe that this is a woman.
And Jews believe that God wants them to chop the tip of their dicks off and have an old man suck the blood out.
And Muslims believe that women should STFU and not be whores.

seems like Muslims are the most sane religion

>>22952213 (OP)
>Christcucks
kike shill detected

>>22952217
Titus 1:14

>>22952215
>he actually believes this nonsense
cucks

>>22952408
Got it backwards bud, from Jew to gentile under Christ, seethe more papi pinga

>>22952283
king of atheism christopher hitchens was a hardcore ziocuck
>>22952404
they were jews, because christianity is jewish. but atheists want to divorce christianity from judaism because they actively defend jews.

>>22952223
No one cares. Not even you

>>22952412
>a book written over 3500 years accurately predicts exactly where the ark landed and originated from
Sources not needed when it’s from God. Cope

>>22952411
> If you don’t believe in Noah’s ark after they’ve found it
The Ark gets "found" every decade.
And every single in one of these headlines uses the same wishy washy "claims" and "may" to describe them.

>>22952213 (OP)
So, the jews don't believe that?

>>22952213 (OP)
I have a better one...

Christcucks unironically believe that a god who had begotten a child so that he can be tortured to death by jews, in order to teach said jews a lesson... is somehow a good and benevolent god worthy of their faith.

What a ridiculous belief system.

>>22952418
>king of atheism
A stupid person typed this

>>22952285
Seashells found on top of Mount Everest are remnants of ancient marine life that lived in a vast ocean that once covered the region millions of years ago. The area that is now Mount Everest was part of an ancient seabed, where marine organisms, including shellfish, thrived. When these organisms died, their remains, including seashells, settled on the ocean floor and became embedded in layers of sediment. Over time, these sedimentary layers hardened into rock, preserving the shells as fossils

>>22952297
>There are no dinosaurs either, go to any museum and the "dinosaur evidence" is really paper maché.
I bet you never actually asked why. There's a reason that isn't a moronic conspiracy

The Sumerians, Babylonians, Egyptians, Greeks, Indians, Aztecs, Mayans wrote about the flood. It was real

The version of the Zoroastrian flood is interesting, Jamshid (Yam, also known as the Scandinavian Ymir) escapes from the flood in a square ark and this is not exactly a boat, it is built on the ground or even underground (in the Sumerian myth, people are saved underground) where time goes differently and children are born in pairs

>>22952213 (OP)
this may be a controversial take, but i consider the earth-plane as we know it to be the ark itself. if we are on a round planet, it must be much bigger than we are told and the area we inhabit is the ark created by long forgotten figures to safeguard the human experiment

>>22952213 (OP)
You will still have to face God on Judgment Day.
You don't get a pass for pretending He doesn't exist.

>>22952250
God literally told noah to build it out of wood.. what else can be made out of boat that can house animals on a raging sea?

>>22952285
>>22952425
there are retards out there who believe there was water at 8800m. didnt they teach you at school how mountains formed?

>>22952390
>If one already believes in an omniscient god, why would the story of Noah's Ark be a stretch?
It's the type of convoluted mythos that you would expect from a pantheon from deities that are more self-serving than not. The whole story reeks of petulance and incompetence from both God and and his creation, but that more or less describes the pentateuch in general.

>>22952420
If you're gonna be a total moron at least be funny while you're doing it

>>22952429
this jewish mental terrorism should be outlawed

>>22952213 (OP)
AYO THIS NIGGA THINKS ZOOS ARENT REAL LMAO

>>22952429
>absolute cuck believes there is a god who ordered a 99 year old guy to cut the tip of his penis and all 8 days old babies

>>22952220
Idk how far of a leap of faith this is with how salty women are 24/7

>>22952213 (OP)
I've been reading Genesis for the first time in my life. I'm halfway through and it's all about Proto-Jews jewing everyone around them. Funniest shit I've read.

abraham, if he really existed and it's not the fantasy of the perv who wrote the text, was just a paranoid schizo having psychotic outbreak believing god ordered him to cut his penis

>>22952427
All of the civilizations you described originated in flood plains.

>>22952213 (OP)
Celsus:
>We must not disobey the ancient writer [Homer], who said long ago, 'Let one be king, whom the son of crafty Saturn appointed ;'" and adds: "If you set aside this maxim, you will deservedly suffer for it at the hands of the king. For if all were to do the same as you, there would be nothing to prevent his being left in utter solitude and desertion, and the affairs of the earth would fall into the hands of the wildest and most lawless barbarians; and then there would no longer remain among men any of the glory of your religion or of the true wisdom

>the affairs of the earth would fall into the hands of the wildest and most lawless barbarians

>>22952424
You don't pay your atheist tax to King Hitchens, bro?

>>22952429
One day Anubis will weigh your heart against a feather. Have you lived according to ma'at?

>>22952213 (OP)
>Christians
jews too!

>>22952381
>I don't care about atheistic kikes
You should they are on this board in the government and businesses.
>proceeds to project
Both your parents also atheist kikes or just one?

>>22952386
>bible is the talmud
Going for the big lies Chaim

>>22952383
>thinking cartoon youtuber has any argument
Kek

>>22952397
>1 to 1 copy
>ship vs. cube
>man that gains immortality vs. man that dies

ctrl+f Ron Wyatt
0 results

>>22952934
the possible ark find has been mentioned several times, just not his name.

>>22952429
You will be reincarnated in one of the hell realms for your bad karma from spreading jewish lies.

>>22952297
>dinosaurs
It's really telling when someone just ignores 450m years of complex life to hyperfocus on a particular group that got almost completely wiped 65mya.
It's also telling when people act like dinosaurs are mythological despite birds being a surviving branch.
Let me guess, I bet you think evolution is a theory instead of natural selection. Do you know what neotony is? Ever study how hybridization causes succession species?

>>22953803
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>>22952397
>wish to learn of OG flood myth
>start reading epic of gilgamesh
>get sidetracked by story of cocky giant being humble by a wildman
>enthralled by story of epic bros adventuring to underworld
>get ambushed that "noah" was not human and belonged to extinct precursor race
Spooky
>>22953819
Post some more ascii art, mutt.