>salary: $77,500 (6 years of experience)

I’m a zogbot and make $82,000 a year :^)
When I get out you’ll pay me $13,000 a year in just disability.

>>60488208 (OP)
Should i study mechanical or electrical engineering, or something else like chemical? I'm a poorfag neet that can't take it anymore

>>60488243
EE is the most versatile IMO. You automatically cut in front of the line for all the jobs cs monkeys are clamoring for plus you're eligible for 50 other fields. EE masters programs are actually useful and can unlock big glowie money (RF shit for the military). Also minimizes the odds of getting jeeted

>>60488259
>cut in front of the line for all the jobs cs monkeys are clamoring for
What in the fuck are you talking about? If you made a venn diagram of CS and EE jobs, you'd need a magnifying glass to see the overlap. They do not compete against each other.

>>60488208 (OP)
>Master of Science, Structural Engineering
>Salary: $90,000 (13 years of experience)

>>60488270
Name a single entry level software job that will turn down an EE major. I personally have never seen one where the JD didn't specifically say "CS, CE, EE, or other STEM degree required"
Maybe in your shithole country "EE" just means you studied power infrastructure

>>60488286
>Name a single entry level software job that will turn down an EE major
A front end or back end web developer position, perhaps? ie. the single most common entry level field for programmers? I have never, ever heard of an EE program with JavaScript or databases in the curriculum, which would leave you utterly dead in the water at square one in any web dev position.

>Work in a small warehouse doing disposal for federal government property
>85,000/yr

Fell ass backwards into this after dropping out of College. Fuck that student debt shit I amassed $100k by 26

>>60488208 (OP)
That’s about right, don’t worry it goes up pretty quick in your mid career. I was making 85k at 6 years as a manufacturing engineer in the Bay Area, CA but now I’m making 250k at 10 years. Moving jobs helps a lot too

>>60488215
What are some disabilities a botty can claim if otherwise healthy? Looking forward to my retirement pay btw.

>>60488259
That's the one I want to study more, but it's nice to have second opinions. To me it seems less saturated, more fun to learn, makes a bit more money, and there's twice as many listings online as there are compared to mechanical where I live. I've read it's hard to get through though, one of the hardest in university. Scares me a bit, but won't be going into the program until next year, so there's some time for me to prepare

>>60488243
EE for sure, they are in high demand. We always have a hard time filling open EE roles bc there just isn’t very many compared to ME

>>60488298
So you do live in a shithole
In America, modern EE programs offer a boatload of computing-related courses with an emphasis on low-level implementation rather than computational theory you find in CS. Here's a short sampling of undergrad and graduate courses from the ECE curriculum from my state's highest-rated engineering school:
>Digital Logic
>Programming Digital Systems
>Embedded Software Engineering
>Real-Time Operating Systems
>Concurrent Programming
>Compiler Construction
Here in non-shitholia, businesses are generally aware that the computation-focused subset of EE/CE curriculum is at least as rigorous as CS, which is why tech jobs want EE/CE grads at least as much as CS grads. EE grads also have to take much harder math

>>60488318
Do you recommend doing anything to prepare in the year leading up to it? Likely depends where you go but I've read around 40% of students wash out first year, and that school sucks but the job isn't as bad when you get it

>>60488316
I don't think it's THAT much harder than ME, it's just super abstract. I haven't taken any ME classes but I can't imagine a university-level dynamics course from a decent school is outright "easy" compared to what you learn in EE. Just depends on which major's math you jive with more

>>60488315
>sleep apnea
>PTSD (no deployment required)
>erectile dysfunction
>mental illness
>back/shoulder/knee pain
Those were the main ones I saw

>>60488215
I'm sure I'd approve of your purchases anyway
It's on me ;)

>>60488322
>from the ECE curriculum
ALL of what you listed is from the CE curriculum, and we were talking about EE. Absolute horse shit that any of that is required in the EE curriculum, except maybe Digital Logic and Programming Digital Systems. The rest would be an elective for an EE major at best. If an EE major showed up to a web dev interview and didn't know databases, I 1000% guarantee you they get turned away. You said "name a single job" and I did.

>>60488243
EE harder but better job opportunities and higher pay.
T. ME that works an EE job now

>>60488354
Do you really think an EE grad couldn't piece together using a fucking ORM in javascript in like an hour max? Fucking get over yourself lmao, your CS degree is toilet paper and the job market finally agrees after a decade of nonsense
>Absolute horse shit that any of that is required in the EE curriculum
I'm sure you could graduate without taking any of them, but most students generally take at least a couple just because they're cool and relevant. But if you have a problem with the curricular decisions of the school that has some of America's foremost RF researchers on as faculty, I'm sure they have a complaints box

>>60488333
Checked
That also aligns with what I read. You don't get the same visual representation as to what you're doing compared to something like mechanical or civil engineering. Learning thermodynamics and how engines work seems boring though. Stuff like cars and HVAC don't interest me. Nothing moves in civil engineering so I didn't bother to include it in my question
>>60488356
That's true. Learning about circuits, control systems, and RF seems more fun to me, and it probably helps to study something that you're more curious about. The answer was already there, but again some second opinions are nice. Thanks for the answers anons

>>60488362
>Do you really think an EE grad couldn't piece together using a fucking ORM in javascript in like an hour max?
OK? Tell that to the interviewer, I guess? Just give him a firm handshake and assure him you can figure it out on your feet, great plan.
>your CS degree is toilet paper
A CS degree does suck, as does a CS job, which makes it all the more bizarre to me that you're bending over backwards and pulling shit out of your ass to try to pretend EE majors can do CS jobs.
>I'm sure you could graduate without taking any of them
I accept your concession?
>But if you have a problem with the curricular decisions
I don't have a problem with the EE curriculum lmfao, why the fuck would an electrical engineer need to know databases or discrete math? That's my whole point. Most baffling conversation I've had on this website in months, holy shit.

>>60488243
I graduated from a good college with a 4.0 GPA and work for the post office now, don't get a degree in ChemE unless you want to move to some dogshit area to find an entry level job.

>>60488243
Anyway to answer your question, EE is a great choice, but don't go into it expecting to be able to dive into a software eng position without some substantial self-teaching after you get the degree. I have absolutely no idea what kind of chip is on this >>60488259 anon's shoulder about it, but he's wrong on this particular matter.

>>60488381
Are you implying CS grads come out of the gate with tons of SQL, javashit, and HTML experience?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA god damn why are you making shit up on a congolese canoe carving forum?
>you're bending over backwards and pulling shit out of your ass to try to pretend EE majors can do CS jobs
I'll go through this real slow like:
>neither EE nor CS students generally learn a bunch of webshit in school, if either were interested in doing so they'd both have to grind leetcode, system design, and make projects with common languages
>neither EE nor CS majors would get turned down from a software job interview for their major
>CS, CE, and EE are all bundled together for the degree requirement on literally every software job description I've ever seen
>one of the most common industries EE grads go into is fucking software and it's a common joke that they took much harder classes just to get the same jobs as CS grads
So why, again, are you implying an EE major couldn't do a CS job? I still can't tell if you're implying they couldn't get an interview, or they couldn't learn the skills, because none of those are true

>>60488411
CS grads 100% absolutely do come out the gate with substantial SQL knowledge. JavaScript and HTML MAYBE not, as they aren't part of the CS curriculum per se, but it would be difficult for a CS major to avoid learning those things as a natural consequence of other aspects of their degree, and much more importantly, a CS major would at the very least learn client/server architecture and async programming as part of the required curriculum, which an EE major would not learn unless they took it as an elective.
>I still can't tell if you're implying they couldn't get an interview, or they couldn't learn the skills
Let me dumb this down for you: An EE major could GET an interview. An EE major, in many cases, could not PASS the interview. Any EE major could absolutely learn the skills, but they do not (necessarily) leave college with those skills already. Maybe EE is listed on some job descriptions, but I guarantee many EE majors would hit a brick wall upon showing up to the actual software engineering interview, unless they deliberately chose their electives with the explicit goal of having a lot of software exposure.

>>60488379
Important advice: don't make your decision based on what interests you. Engineering is soul-crushingly boring. People outside of the field think we're doing maths and designing cool rockets and shit, but our actual jobs are very similar to lawyers and accountants.
Don't let that dissuade you though, engineering can still be Fun(TM). Just be warned that 50% of my cohort dropped out before finishing their degree, and another large portion either couldn't find an engineering job or had a nervous breakdown and quit 5 years later.

>t. Studied mechatronics, now working as a systems engineer, getting paid $910/day fake Australian dollarbucks on contract rates.

Also, everything moves in civil. Geotechnical is probably the coolest civil field, followed by traffic. But I agree that EE is the best, though I'm obviously biased.

>>60488442
>Also, everything moves in civil.
Water flow rate is a bit different from mechanical dynamics...

>>60488442
Mechatronics looks cool too since it's offered as a program where I live, but there seems to be way less job opportunities and doesn't look as sexy on resumes. Others also said it's a jack of all trades master of none situation. I'll keep in mind what you said though, that it's boring. Doesn't bother me since that applies to most jobs in general, and the only ones that pay as much is either something like an accountant as you've said or tradie jobs that will make you crippled by 40

>>60488471
>less job opportunities
fewer.

>>60488442
This all rings true. I focused heavily on machine learning in the later stages of my degree and even contributed to published research in my senior year about the technique of "dropout" in neural network training and formally measuring its impact on training speed and accuracy. All of that cool shit, and now I write software to help companies cope with the rat's nest of insurance licensure compliance laws in the U.S. Literally all I do is solve problems that were senselessly and retardedly created by people for no reason. And I get paid $800/day for it. Life is weird.

>>60488442
>Just be warned that 50% of my cohort dropped out before finishing their degree
ME NEET dropout reporting in

>>60488259
I'm always impressed with how many retarded posts I see on this site. Somehow after a decade I still manage to be surprised

>>60488208 (OP)
>warehouse laborer
>wage $44,000
>12 years experience

I still remember around 2012 when I had a ChemE intro class where they kind of outlined the profession. They said starting was about 50k and if you slaved really hard for a few decades at a good company and rose through the ranks, then you might get to make 85k as a plant director or some shit.
I should have killed myself on the spot.

>>60488381
>>60488396
Anon, no matter whether you have a CS or EE degree, everyone needs to leetcode for these SWE jobs. Major barely matters since most CS programs don't even teach people to code, which is the whole point.

>>60488340
>sleep apnea
Given how shitty the hours are, this is practically guaranteed if you're in the military long enough.

>>60488442
>People outside of the field think we're doing maths and designing cool rockets and shit
I did ME/mechatronics and this is unironically my job thoughbeit. I know I'm way better than the average ME thoughever.

>>60488471
Mechatronics is basically a robotics specialty. You get control systems, embedded programming and dynamics, so pretty much perfect for automotive, aerospace, and automation. You can also work at robotics startups in tech if you also upskill on machine learning. There are less jobs than ME or EE generally (because those are massive categories desu), but also better jobs.

>>60488616
Mechatronics basically qualifies you for any electronics stuff, and it leads well into SysEng (like me) or management.

>>60488208 (OP)
I spent 7 years in UNI, 0 experience, 29 years old, jobless, virgin, living at parents still because no money, can't find a job.

I got an EE degree 2 years ago and the only job I managed to get was an entry level dev job that pays like 50k. The only EE interviews I got were for tradie positions expecting you to have an EIT license and exp with cad. Where am I going wrong? I can’t see any other entry level EE jobs on my area. Am I using the wrong keywords or what? Do I just stick with deving jobs at this point? No idea what to do

>>60488329
Nah, just be sure you have some level of self discipline so you can study when necessary. I have heard EE is hard though, I was a ME.
Yes the job is not as bad as the schooling, at least in terms of engineering calculations and such that you are expected to do

>>60490046
it's not your fault anon engineering has been jeeted to hell and back. It's like winning the lottery to find an entry level engineering job rn.
One thing I can say is to look for SCADA/controls type jobs if you can. It's niche enough that if you can get in the door you will be set for life and always have a job.

ITT Poor engineers get salty at tech jobs again

>>60491595
Why shouldnt I seethe at dumber, less hardworking, less deserving faggots having better lives than me?
I will stay mad. And if it ever really comes down to it I'll make sure you and a lot of your friends go without power for a good while.

>>60488208 (OP)
B.S. in Applied Math
$72k, 1.75 yrs

>>60491624
No you won’t. You won’t do anything but seethe on 4cuck.

>>60488480
>Literally all I do is solve problems that were senselessly and retardedly created by people for no reason.
Reading things like this, I cannot wait to wipe away the mess the boomers created

>>60488208 (OP)
>have a law degree
>from a top 5 law school
>global top 10 college
>specialised in commercial law and remedies, ADR

>one job offer in ten months
>paralegal work for ambulance chasers
>for minimum wage

I am genuinely considering suicide.

>>60488243
depends on what kind of autistic you are

>>60488381
Guys stop fighting I’m a full stack dev and I was a marketing major. Nobody at work has ever even asked me about it. Degrees are a meme

>>60491960
>>from a top 5 law school
Please say which one so I can avoid it, that must have really bad alumni network and career services for you to not have a job. Also how have you not joined a boutique that does cl, remedies, or adr? Please respond

>>60488208 (OP)
> B.S. in Information Technology
> Software Engineer
> $360k remote (in U.S.)
> 9 years of experience

>>60491960
Are you serious? I thought lawyers had it awesome? I was debating between law or accounting...after reading your post I'm leaning more towards accounting.

>>60488635
>management
Any engineering degree could work for that, the main qualification for being a manager is being a shit engineer thoughbeit. I'd kill myself if I had to wrangle retards and play politics as my full time job rather than just sometimes as a tech lead.

>>60488208 (OP)
>Union Aerospace Assembly mechanic
>$60hr after 6yrs
>No degree needed
Feels good