Sex havers, how much did your monthly spending spike when you got a gf? How much does a woman cost really? Financially speaking.

I budget $250/mo for fun money, including hobbies, eating out, etc. how over is it.

went into debt with some shady people just to support my girlfriend's lifestyle

>>60488371 (OP)
It's more expensive, but if your partner can also foot the bill from time to time, it's more enjoyable to do shit with someone you enjoy the company of.

>>60488371 (OP)
having sex > money

>>60488372
See this post. Avoid this shit like the plague. Just be with someone financially competent that can pay for shit themselves when asked.

Easily three or four times that.
Not only will she always come up with shit to do (restaurants, doordash, visiting a friend, going to a concert, traveling, etc.), she will hog your time. And even women who say they only want casual sex will angle for a serious relationship later.

>>60488371 (OP)
I can’t save for shit when living with a woman, they always wanna go out and do stuff

>>60488371 (OP)
>honey i'm bored
>let's go look for something to do downtown

>>60488374
Normie faggot. This is why crypto died in 2017. The real autistic OGs are all gone and now all thats left is these social normie faggots that think they are any different to reddit. Ur all faggots and you literally talk like a woman. Kys

>>60488371 (OP)
Having a coke addiction is unironically cheaper than having a girlfriend.

>>60488375
Lmao im so glad you guys are the generational bagholders of this crypto mania. Cant wait to see you all rope urselves when this shit goes down. Good riddance.

>>60488371 (OP)
a lot, i worked some time before going into college, and say i saved some 600 or 700 in that time, i quit some time before finding a nice girl and all it took was going out for a month to blow all that away, granted i was not getting any income at the time, so thats why i lost all my money so fast but still
also 100% worth it when its an actual nice girl

on a daily average i spend 25% more than when im single

the first trips i paid them all, now we split everything

she cooks me delicious food everyday

she earns 3 times more than me from her job but i completely MOG her if we account my bitcoin trading profits

+~$250

>>60488427
take it easy, chuddie not everyone here is a nigger faggot incel complaining little bitch like you

Once I had a wife and kids, spending went way the fuck up. Daycare alone is 1300 a month, plus my wife buys a bunch of bullshit, her credit card is like a grand a month, she buys a ton of stuff on Amazon which is another grand a month. Then I have a $2,500 mortgage, tons of other little bullshit, food, and utilities. I pull just under 8K a month and I barely have $50 net.

>>60488431
pro tip always bet on the nukes not flying. crypto, fiddle faddle, invest in the stupidest dumbest shit cause nukes aint ever going off

>>60488374
> if your partner can also foot the bill from time to time
Lmao if you can’t afford to have a gf don’t have a gf

>>60488371 (OP)

https://youtu.be/V5S7IjKEqhI

>>60488522
pathetic cuck

>>60488533
I know what I signed up for.

>>60488375
not going into debt > having sex > having extra money

I wouldnt give up my peace for some piece.

>>60488431
> generational bagholders of this crypto mania
If you pay taxes in America, you are the bagholder.

>>60488427
Hipster faggot
>>60488530
Enjoy getting cucked financially retard, I wouldn't pay for a person to go through life

>>60488522
I heard a guideline that women are responsible for over 80% of consumer spending. I've no reason to doubt this. I have reason to believe that the vast majority of consumer, student, and mortgage debt is also held mostly by women.

>mfw reading this thread after I took the prostitute pill
I spend $200 bucks a week to fuck a 8/10 Korean whore and it's still cheaper than what you guys pay with a gf. Feels good man.

>>60488371 (OP)
My gf is way uglier than me so she sucks my dick and lets me fuck FOR FREE

also she's stupid and irritating so we never go anywhere together.

>>60488371 (OP)
My gf is low maintenance, so she doesn't ask for much, but i like to treat her once in a while. Whenever we got out (restaurants, activities, movie, etc) i will always pay for us. But when we're at home, she spoils me a lot with gifts and food and other random shit. She told me she just likes when we're out and i do stuff for her.

>>60488371 (OP)
>I budget $250/mo for fun money
ha ha ha ha

>>60488371 (OP)
If you live together it's life half as expensive and your quality of life is higher. If you live apart it's like twice as expensive but your quality of life is better.

>>60488658
I love hookers

>>60488371 (OP)
she pays me for sex

>>60488737
Also, I fell in love with my favorite prostitute

depends on the gf

my first practice gf unironically expected me to be a paypig despite herself having a good job so i was probably spending 500-750 a month on her on average between eating out, activities, and trips. when we broke up she told me i didnt meet her 'gift giving' love language kek. protip if a woman ever brings up 'love languages' to you run away.

current gf is more down to earth and tries to pay 50/50 but i willingly pay more because shes significantly younger than me and doesnt make as much. i probably spend 200 net a month on her so honestly not bad.

>>60488371 (OP)
It halved. We rarely eat out and save for big expenses. I take care of all the handiwork, and we share the costs proportional to our share of total income, and the same goes for groceries.
We both save 50% of the income, and I invest it for the both of us. I buy her gifts sometimes and she buys me gifts sometimes.
Just don't look for women who aren't on the same page as you

You're all cucks, in incels and pay piggys. My gf pays for my fucking time.

About 20-25% increase but it’s worth it if she’s the right one. Don’t waste time with hoes, be with someone smart and loyal and you won’t care that you’re spending more

>>60488820
I said that first. Checkmate.

>>60488371 (OP)
>eating out
Nigger whores are even cheaper than 250 and they like being eaten out by skinny yt bois

>>60488427
kys gf less nigger

>>60488658
based, even hookers are cheaper than girlfriends with a lot less time spent

>>60488371 (OP)
$250? Thats like one night out
If you have a gf be ready to spend ungodly amounts of money on either drugs, alcohol, vacationing, or eating in fancy restaurants.
I fucking hate women so much its unreal
(Married for 9 years and have 2 kids with wife)

>>60488427
Shutup you fuckin nerd id crush your skull under my size 11. Fuckin retard loser. Get back in mommy and daddy's basement, dork.

happy wife, happy life
just let her fuck her black fitness coach from time to time

>>60488374
this

>>60488534
look man as long as your kids don't grow up on screenaine, you do you

>>60488385
pretty much. Best thing i've found is just invite chicks over to fuck, then delete their contact info, move on to somone else. The hunt is fun, but only goes down hill after that.
Can easily just go to concerts/travel alone and have the added bonus of finding some new girl along the way. Unless you could see her being a good mother to your child (almost no one really is anymore), then it's not worth getting into a relationship.
>>60488658
yeah, big opportunity cost too. Unfortunately no attractive hookers in USA without paying like $500+, so I just use dating apps and invite them over for dinner. Sugar daddy sites can work too, paying maybe like $250 a meetup

>>60488371 (OP)

Be careful. having a gf isnt that expensive. But when they turn into a wife and mother, thats when you really start losing money. Being single forever is the best approach, financially speaking

>>60488375

This but the exact opposite

>>60488371 (OP)
Like $500/mo. On avg. A woman costs about as much as a car.

>>60488658
>>60488737
>>60489826
I just wanna expat to a place with affordable hookers. America blows in the sex department man.

>>60490219
Are sugar daddy relationships just a loophole?

If you’re the type who enjoys/feels the need to precisely count their monthly expenses, maybe women aren’t for you. That’s simply too autistic.

>>60488371 (OP)
I was a very frugal person and would calculate how much money meals would cost and meal prep so my monthly food costs would be around $200. I also consistently hit the gym and generally speaking got a lot more accomplished. Now I have my first gf and I sometimes spent $200 in a weekend on food and have gained 30 lbs...

It was worth it at first because I've never had sex and I was a virgin until 30 (I waited just because I thought it'd be funny to be a wizard and women never mattered much to me). However I caught feeling unfortunately so I'm having difficulty letting go. The sex has dried up to once every two weeks or so compared to sometimes multiple times a day when we started and she doesn't really contribute much if anything. The only reason we are still together is because it's more fun to have her around than not and she isn't a pain in the ass like many women to deal with

>>60490336
No, escorting is the loophole. Suger Daddy has no real expectation and is therefore a scam. Plus it's better to just pony up for the escort rather than having to fucking follow some bitch around the mall swiping your card. The entire point of the exercise is to avoid that shit.

>>60490336
>Are sugar daddy relationships just a loophole?
That depends. Some chicks will string you a while before putting out. You also need a public profile with pictures. There are definitely extra steps, but it's probably the best route for not traveling far and getting attractive college girls. I usually stick to dating apps, though, since I have good pictures.
>>60490417
Escorts are usually ugly/old in USA though unless you pay a grand or waste all day flying somewhere else.

everyone in this thread is wrong
having a GF is always a 15%-20% increase your monthly expenses regardless of income level. I have tested this over the last decade and capture every dollar i spend in excel spreadsheets.

t. had a girlfriend back when i made 17/hr. now make 310k, different girlfriend same level of spent $. math major

>>60490448
>>60490336
Legal prostitution would do wonders for hoeflation in the US. In countries where prostitution is legal and competition is high, like Japan, girls have to offer more services to compete, and do bareback blowjob, anal, rimming, filming, cum on face, and they are pretty and young to boot. God bless these girls desu, they keep women's egos from going berserk in the dating market when you can fuck a real college student who'll do anything you want for as little as $200.

In the US you have to risk being arrested to pay 3x the price for a bogged 35 year old who treats her pussy like it's the mona lisa. Pure nightmare fuel.
Sugar daddying wasn't spared from hoeflation either and you have dumb bitches expecting you to pony up half a grand for a no-sex first meeting. The real reason women oppose legalizing prostitution is not to protect girls from trafficking, but because it would crash the pussy market.

>>60490565
>In the US you have to risk being arrested to pay 3x the price for a bogged 35 year old who treats her pussy like it's the mona lisa. Pure nightmare fuel.
this is a you problem, you're not attractive enough for US women to have sex with without having some sort of constraint/risk. You should gain some self awareness

>>60488427
>>60488431
Seething

4chan is such a lame and disgusting place that people unironically use the term "sex-haver" as an insult. Not only that but a good bunch believe having a healthy social life, having friends and doing stuff with them outside is only available to chads.

I just don't like you guys anymore. I would probably feel contempt if we met. Scum.

>>60488371 (OP)
300000% I only ever bought basic groceries and a new pc every 5 years. Now I dare not even look at it. JUST SMILE AND WAVE BOYS

>>60488371 (OP)
gas money to her house basically and stocking my house with groceries so she could cook us dinner. I didn't want her taking public transport and she was more than happy for the lift and did the cooking. I actually spent far less after year 2 because I was a drug addict and alcoholic and she wsnt going to stick around for it. had to move to a nicer area which costs more but again I don't buy drugs or alcohol. Married her awhile back in a church, woman saved my life.

>>60488371 (OP)
about 4x I'd wager.

>>60490565
There's going to be stupid chicks like that one, just ignore and focus on one's who just got started on the platform or try converting some chick to one who may have ghosted on a dating app or even from a bar, music festival etc. It's all really a number game.
>>60490585
i mean it's easy to have sex if you're not picky. If an average guy wants consistent attractive pussy, he's either going to put a lot of effort or pay a lot of money. I personally just make the effort as efficiently as possible and only pay if I really want to lock in a certain chick/experience.

>>60488427
>>60488431
based

>>60488371 (OP)
initially spiked quite a lot with going on fancy dates with fancy restaurants and cocktail bars, also buying gifts for each other.
During this stage you will probably pay most of the expenses. around $200-250/mo is probably right.

as you get further into the relationship you might get into ordering food and having indoor dates which is not as expensive.
but eventually you move in together and start budgeting together - this is where you actually start spending LESS than you would've alone unless she brings no income (unlikely nowadays) - you split rent/bills, you cook at home, you save money from 2 incomes.

Find yourself a girl who doesn't use makeup, doesn't dye/whatever process her hair/nails/lips, doesn't buy expensive brands, etc etc..

>>60490616
Anyway, see you tomorrow

>>60490616
Some of us are ironic posting although you’re right I’m sure if I met you I’d be disgusted by you.

>>60490565
couldn't have said it better myself.
>The real reason women oppose legalizing prostitution is not to protect girls from trafficking, but because it would crash the pussy market.
biggest truthnuke of our time.

>>60490585
bullshit. Hoeflation is a very real thing. I get piss all matches from decent looking women in my local area. When I do match with one they never respond or ghost. The rest of my likes are usually from fatties or single moms. Then I switch my location to Thailand or similar and I'm getting likes and matches from girls 3-4 points more attractive on a 10 point scale easy. Same pics, bio, everything. You can't explain that without hoeflation. If you're not from America it's hard to wrap your head around how insane the princess complex is of all the girls here. Their hubris is downright batty. Honestly my primary motivation for leaving. I just want decent pussy. And I'm not a picky guy either. A 6-7/10 'girl next door' type would please me just fine.

>>60488427
I’ve been coming to this site since 2007, and I’ve lost count of the amount of times I’ve had an election tourist like you pretend to be more 4chan native than me. I know it might be hard for you to accept, but your assumption that everyone here is as terminally unlikable and ugly as you is a cope, and a pretty sad one at that.

>>60488658
>8/10 korean
>whore
>he thinks he didnt fuck a 2/10 caked up with makeup and loads of plastic surgery

>>60488371 (OP)
it got lower
My gf's parents are rich and they fuckin love me because her previous bf was some skinny-fat pothead who pissed everyone off. Also she moved out when she met me and we live together now and she constatnly gets some absurd trust funds from her mother which spends on everything from food to sexy lingerie. So basically it's like 60/40 financially and i get some top of the shelf sex.

>>60490932
Literally doesn’t matter if you’re not wifing her up or getting her pregnant. Perception is reality, who gives a shit what she looks like off the clock?

>>60488371 (OP)
Men spend an average of $260,000 over their life time and around $9,000,000 in opportunity costs on pursuing a 4.5/1000 chance at a happy relationship. That's in 2020 money.

>>60490846
2008 here and yeah these election tourists are as insufferable as ever. They’re ironically very reddit, as the reputation of 4chan in reddit was that only despicable social outcast hanged out in here. So they came here with their reddit beliefs about this place and thought that now they are in their own company. And then they get mad when true natives aren’t like they think 4channers are like kek.

In my limited dating experience, the time expense was a bigger issue than the financial cost. I could afford going out for drinks, but her demanding it on work nights was unsustainable, and indirectly made me lose money by calling into work multiple times.
>>60488423
The female paradox of having no hobbies or ability to entertain themselves, but on the other hand are content to sit on the couch for HOURS watching the same dull show or phone brain rot

>>60490846
>>60490980
Spoiler alert: there’s no reward for wasting over a decade and a half on this shithole

>b-but muh oldfag culture respect your heckin elders!!!

Ok boomer.

Depends on the woman.

>>60491026
You read
>you’re unlikable and ugly
directed at another anon and felt the need to chime in. It’s poetic.
>le basedjak
Take my reddit gold you magnificent bastard. :)

>>60488371 (OP)
Depends on the woman... I actually have to convince my wife that she can buy nice clothes once in a while. But you can also be with a whore who will spend everything to the last dime and always want more, no matter her budget. Women are highly dependent creatures, much like children and animals, so you have to do the thinking for them.

>>60491235
No, I’m just laughing at you because you think being le old fag means anything to anyone.

You’re a fuckin loser unc, Leddit niggas be bu$$in on yo rizzless, bitchless, chicken jockey ass.

>>60491353
Get well soon.

>>60491369
Get well troon

Test post

>>60491469
Welcome back!

>>60491472
Not banned. This post just keeps getting filtered for some reason.

>>60491477
Jannies seething because they’re 400 pound shutins. It’s a conspiracy against you because you made it.

>>60488459
>she cooks me delicious food everyday
based

>>60488371 (OP)
$2000 per month but I only date women 250-350 LBs
>>60488384
That only exists for men over 6foot tall chudster

Sex sex sex

Sex

Sex

Sex

Sex

Sex sex sex sex sex

Sex

Sex

Sex

Sex

>>60488371 (OP)
Is it better to convince some amateur 20 year old hussy by treating her nicely and buy her stuff or is it better to just pay a 25 or 30 year old prostitute? assuming you're a beginner at sex?

>>60488658
>Korean
BBLEEEEGHGHHHH YOU PAY TO FUCK INSECTS YOU LOSER? YOU FAILURE OF A MAN. YOU FUCK ZE BUGS.

>>60488371 (OP)
I buy only groceries for her, maybe 200 Euro per month. Her cooking is outstanding.

>>60488371 (OP)
Almost none. Wife doesn’t eat much, doesn’t go out much and doesn’t do any drugs. She mainly just spends her money on groceries and cleaning supplies for the house which we both use. She sends anything leftover on her paycheck directly to me since she’d rather I handle anything investment/bill related. She makes ~$45k a year gross I make $80k.

>>60491997
I’d say at this point get a couple of prozzies to get over the nervousness so you don’t spill spaghetti when having sexo with a woman you already like. You can ask for honest feedback too if you’re a beginner, they don’t care and they’ll just tell you what to practice.

>>60488371 (OP)
All my salary goes to her and my daughter, I've been saving money for a Switch 2 and then she took the money for clothes for the baby....

>>60492345
lmfao

>>60492353
It is funny, it's been 3 years since the last time I bought something for myself.... a pair of shoes....
It feels horrible the last thing I bought for me are shoes AND I'M STILL USING THEM BECAUSE I CAN'T SPEND MY MONEY... it's either that or never see my daughter anymore because she always threatens me with that when she's mad.
Only thing I wanted for years now is a fucking Switch 2 to spend those 30 minutes of my free time playing some wahoo yippie and hyaahhh seryyaaaa but now that money is gone.
I think it would be ideal to just disappear and be a good memory for my daughter. but yeah. i can't watch her grow that way...

>>60492390
I don’t have kids, but I was stuck in a bad relationship with a controlling ex while we were living paycheck to paycheck so I can empathize with what you’re going through. I’m sorry man, that’s rough; you SHOULD have some you time throughout the week.

>>60492412
Thanks anon, really. I'm trying, but getting time to this point is hard, you see I work 10 hours a day, sleep like 4-6 hours and rest of the time is waking up to feed and change baby or to, well, feed and change baby, when is not that, is inviting missus to dinner or something or else she gets depressed or upset and she throws all her shit on me and I end up worse... as I said, it is better to think a possibility where I'm dead or something, but that's losing the only thing pushing me to endure this situation, my daughter

>>60492422
I hate to say it, but you may be happier splitting custody and bouncing on your wife at this point (and hiding as much wealth as you can in crypto so you don’t get divorce raped)

>>60492422
you have to be trolling

>>60492390
Bro grow up vidya is for basedcuck children.

>>60488375
I prefer the money..

>>60492459
sadly, i'm not

>>60492485
>muh trad cath no hobbies allowed
met my gf in uni and we play games together. biztards are the exception and most people in stem play games.

>>60488371 (OP)
Don't know, don't care.
I have a cool wife, a healthy son.
It's worth it.

>>60488371 (OP)
My gf is frugal as fuck. We mostly go for walks and hang out at home.

I buy her clothes and dinner sometimes.

Clothes $150/year, dinners $400/year (including my food cus she's tiny so it doesn't add much).

My other gf somehow got me spending $200 on fancy dinners ... yikes ...

>>60490932
The madman sees what he sees, if she's an 8/10 to him while they fuck then she's an 8/10 it is that simple

>>60490616
It's called irony einstein. Or are you just baiting me right now?

>>60488427
>normie
how ironic, you yourself are a normalfag
the proof is that you use the normalfag word for normalfags

>>60488427
>>60488431
you always know a cunts life is going shit when he strolls back in to dunk on random anon for no reason.

need the self-esteem boost that badly do ya?

this is a good reminder that you actually need to work on your charisma and life in general irl. no amount of money is going to make you desirable to women if you don't learn how to talk to them.

or you'll end up like this bitter envious loser spazzing the fuck out in gf themed threads because he's da trve real autistic OG and none of you normies can relate

get wealthy, but learn from these cautionary tale anons. you don't want that life.

>>60488371 (OP)

what you do is pull a piece of trim with raw animal magnetism alone, and then only spend what you can afford to lose, since there's always another ho

>>60488371 (OP)
Expenses for halved because I dicked a bitch with a good job and gave her 8 orgasms the first time. She already said she loves me.

>>60488371 (OP)
I'm supporting my gf that lives in SEA. At first, I was sending her up to $900 a month. Then she moved somewhere cheaper and started working so I dropped it down to $500 a month. This has been going on for the past 14 months.
The American gf I had before her cost me about $5000 over the course of 2 years. It was mostly from going out to eat and vacations we took together. She struggled financially but mostly due to her own retardation and I didn't like her enough to help her out.

>>60492422
anon, ever heard of narcissism? you need to leave her.

>>60493029
>my gf that lives in SEA
lmao

>>60493038
Yeah I'm nuts. I'm sitting in the airport on layover right now to go there. I plan on staying for a year lol

>>60493029
Lmao

>>60493029
This niggas paying a Nigerian

>>60492422
>>60492459

33 yo anon here. I won't even share my blogpost with you but look into narcissism.

Main dead non-female hokey bullshit giveaways:

1.) Dilated pupils in benign situations. Don't like her cooking? She's staring at the back of your head like she wants to murder you, tracking you while you aren't looking, your petite gf suddenly gives your gut the same feeling a feral angry nigger is around. It is not normal or excusable anger, ignoring this is how people get murdered by their spouse.

2.) Because of the unpredictability of 1, you will be terrified of offending this person. Since they are offended by everything and ashamed of nothing, there will be a constant air of terror when this person is around. To this day, my baby mom calls me and my heart drops. It's terrifying. I always know i'm about to get terrible news or an insane request for money or time that I don't want to give because this woman treats me like shit, calls me faggot, makes me clean up shit stained blankets at the house that she lets stink up everything while my kids are there, then she does drugs and goes catatonic for a few days, then she sucks enough cock to go to a different city etc

3.) inhuman priorities. Normal person - I don't have money for fast food I'm going to cook something healthy at home for myself and the kids.
Narcissist - holy fuck you're a piece of shit broke ass bum. You need to give me money. You don't understand - I can't AFFORD diapers for the kids, what the fuck!!! You've always been a fucking loser. You have no idea what people say about you. I try to stick up for you, but PEOPLE SEE THIS BULLSHIT YOU DO TO ME! YOU NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THESE FUCKING KIDS! (this is her way of saying "I want to order pizza every day forever with your money because I think you're weak and I think I'm strong")

Stay strong. Remember - you'd never ask your kids to stay with their abusive partner, right? So don't stay on their behalf. They need a strong father, not a cuck.

>>60488375
Money is vastely more important. Money = sex