Total Quantum Death
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heAH50bMq7o

>>60495841 (OP)
Holy SHIT Marting excorciated him.

>>60495841 (OP)
I'm 7 minutes in and the jeet has still not explained how in the fuck would anyone run a state machine using qubits
what would the architecture even look like?
they can't make it run a ssingle fucking algo yet (grover or shor), what makes him think you could do a hello world in it?
I smell theranos

>>60495841 (OP)
also, shor's algorithim cannot break sha2
you can run grover's algo to turn sha2 into 128bits
but 128 it's still too large for a brute force, it would take billions of years

Martin Shkreli is retarded

>>60497831
yes, but quantumfags are turbo retarded

>>60497831
>MICRO STRATEGY PRICE FEED
HOLW FUCK YOU NEWFAG GO BACK GET THE FUCK OUT DO NOT POST YOU ARE THE CANCER KILLING BIZ SPECIFICALLY YOU AND YOUR ILK RETARDED MOTHER FUCKING RETARDS FUCK OFF

>>60497831
He is literally right though.

>>60495841 (OP)
Quantum is stupidest shit, Google ran that experiment so investors wouldn't scrap that money pit

>>60497388
>DURR MUH AI KNOWS ALL

>>60495841 (OP)
what a shitshow. what i didn't hear is a non-existence proof of future algorithms of utility. martin's points describe a technical bottleneck which would be obviated should topological qubits come to fruition. and even barring a breakthrough enabling general purpose qc, i see no reason to assume thoroughput/configuration problem can't be solved by some clever scheme perhaps leveraging other quantum effects/ he's right about the fraud but she has point in that it's really too early to outright discount breakthroughs; especially in a global war pivot environment. also, how is it not the case that development of qc would spur developement in adjacent fields like quantum communication?
i'm schizo so i'll tell you that what will be found is a nullification field, likened to an artifical black hole, which would protect quantum states from interference. it exists because it must.

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>>60500767
what is a nullification field?
a three-body entangled system wherein quantum computing is carried out via tuned conjugate phase matching between a qc circuit analog (quantum computing analog of the delayed choice quantum eraser) residing in an artifical BH and the image of the ultimate circuit desired for implementation existing as some basis in projective space in which the configuration space of the BH-QC be determined in a non-linear fashion via destructive entangled interference. the tuner provides stability of system so that time dialation arbitrage in the evolution of the two systems can be exploited. so that while the BH-QC & control circuit be entangled a bias is maintained whereby our control circuit via means of interference can constrain the delayed choice quantum eraser-like circuit residing in the BH. i've also heard rumors of tribes in africa that can manifest lightning at will and could prove of some use here.

>>60500767
>dude buy my "quantum computing" stock NOW because at some undisclosed point in the future quantum computing MIGHT be a real thing if we get super science and warp drives

>>60500904
>proof of concept
>dude........aliens
gotta love the fukayama end of history attitudes with respect to future progress.
yes, a business proposition absolutely martin is correct. but, again, this is why china is winning and will to continue to outclass because they have no problem being the first to eat the crab. the frontier will remain so if we're to remain shackled to the stakeholder mentality.
and for the record, with respect to AI, i don't believe QC or GPUs repesent the future (10 years) and that AGI will be solved without these within the next ten years.

>>60497831
Come back in 20 years and then if bitcoin is still relevant you may have your gotcha. December 2022 is nothing. He is not proven wrong yet, not even close. Martin thinks long term.

martin may be correct but he's most likely going to lose his short trade

the market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent

>>60500896
the static components of the surface of the qc chip itself generate "dynamic vibration modes", corresponding to a space of allowable circuit configurations, which when driven by our control circuit analogous to the selective removal of substrate in wafer etching but using the control circuit as waveguide directing which components remain passive and those becoming active thereby probabilistically constraining states of the qc permitting a large number of states (existing as a conjugate of the control circuit) but with degrees of freedom hopefully corresponding to the system of interest; a probablistic sieve, if you will. so the qc circuit itself is a bit of a passive element representing a stochatically configurable quantum computing analog of the delayed choice quantum eraser with those active elements being determined by the entangled control circuit and hopefully resulting some small space of configurations in which computations may take place with the remaining task that of sorting out the signal from noise from a now manageably small data set.

>>60500937
youre a fucking idiot whos been deluded by your parents oohing and ahhing every time you use a big word you dont understand.

There is no such thing as a quantum computer, AGI is impossible, LLMs are not AI, etc. etc.

Enjoy losing your shirt every 5 years chasing the new bubble

>>60500896
>so that while the BH-QC & control circuit be entangled a bias is maintained whereby our control circuit via means of interference can constrain the delayed choice quantum eraser-like circuit residing in the BH
meaning that time may occur at the same rate but the time-dependent evolution of the QC-BH will always "lag" the control circuit's wake, if you will. so while the control circuit cycles through it's modes, effectively changing the landscape of the QC-BH configuration element's before collapsing/resolving with the end result being monte-carlo-like.

>>60501244
There is no such thing as a quantum computer, AGI is impossible, LLMs are not AI
funnily enough none of these have anything to do with one another. i really just talking to myself so it hardly matters who's listening.

>>60501265
who said they did? You cant stop babbling about any of them because its the current midwit trap

>>60496747
nah, talking about what your friends at nvidia say is not a technical argument. heres martins "points" in order

>my friends say it wont work
>crisper didnt work
>the QC ceos are criminals
>big companies say it wont work
>im a pharma bro and pharma companies dont like QC
>big companies arent investing in it
>QC is slow and only useful for Shors algo
>experts say QC is only useful for Shors algo
>QC ceo says QC will take 30 years to be useful
>QC could break bitcoin
>my friends say it wont work
>big companies say it wont work
>i think QC will break bitcoin eventually
>even a company that makes a QC that breaks bitcoin would be a bad company
>QC wont replace classical computers and was never designed to do so
>QC companies will go down and ill make a bunch of money
>big companies say it wont work
>QC could do shors algo well and thats all
>QC companies are scammers because theyre buying other companies instead producing better QC

notice how almost all these points are referencing his friends, companies and expert opinions that QC will not replace classical computers, as if the companies current valuations even remotely suggest that QC could replace classical computers. they do not, ~$10B is far too low a valuation for a company legitimately challenging classical computers.

at the same time, he concedes and agrees QC will break bitcoin, but that these companies wouldnt be able to profit from doing so. this is hopium. he is betting that 10B companies will not be able to sustain their current valuations even after breaking encryption standards for both bitcoin and the internet. weak argument imo.

effortpost because martin is full of shit referring to himself as technical while making 1 well-known technical point the entire time and the rest talking about other peoples general opinion on the technology.

>>60500767
>youre a fucking idiot whos been deluded by your parents oohing and ahhing
i'm an ophan you asshat. you don't think i would give anything to have them back for even one day? that i would relinquish my link stack for even one day with them? well, i can't and that's my burden to bear not yours.

>a nullification field, likened to an artifical black hole, which would protect quantum states from interference. it exists because it must.
and i suppose if any of had any truth and required to extaction of output that the holographic principle would be the means to divine those states generated inside on the surface of our artifical black hole.

>>60501328
>link baggy
should have just led with that so I could know the caliber of retardation im dealing with

>>60501328
so perhaps i'm attempting to describe a holographic quantum computer existing on a hypercube of a stochasically determined system with customized boundary conditions.

>>60498865
you just proved my point, genius boy

>>60500767
>i see no reason to assume thoroughput/configuration problem can't be solved by some clever scheme
>technical bottleneck

you're not as smart as you think
>and then magic happens
absolutely delusional
there are optimization issues and then there are fundamental impossibilities... they're not the same type of problem
usually, people who are not as technically proficient/ literate, misunderstand how technology works
the jeet in the video mentions self driving cars as an example, but even 50 years ago, you could theorize how a exactly a car could drive itself (cameras, sensors, computers, microscopic logic gates)

you literally cannot describe the means to make your qc run a hello world

>>60501548
>there are optimization issues and then there are fundamental impossibilities...
which was the issue i had with what martin was arguing that while he's correct no industrial qc efforts are currently nor can be reasonable anticipated to be viable any time soon, he cloaked that argument in the certainty of physical impossibility (if you'll but for a moment forgive my flagrant violations itt). and it was for this reason, he seemed unconvincing but i guess the point was to win a debate not argue technical details with, again if you'll forgive, dilettantes. by his own admission, martin has conceded that topological qubits would invalidate his thesis and that is just one known unknown. there should be, one would expect, many unknown unknowns; we are but playing on the beach.

>>60501548
>absolutely delusional
>IT IS DREAMTIME YA CUNT?
>YES.

>>60501625
>>60501628
the crux:
ionq will, therefore, crater
jeet will be liquidated

that's what essentially this thread is about

>>60501625
>pass the petrol son...
>many unknown unknowns
for example, discovery of a celestial communication network by LEO quantum communications anomalies

>>60501654
>that's what essentially this thread is about
shill, psyops, slides, thotposting; i'm always here
>as are you fren

>>60501548
>you literally cannot describe the means to make your qc run a hello world
but "hello world" isn't an optimization problem.
however, a bitcoin mining reward is a sort of race conditioned "hello world".
i suppose martin's casting of the problem space addressable by qc as being small , and thus implying insignificance, was a bit disingenuous. i would suggest that even in the case of biotech the tools and ultimately manufacturing be the limitations dictating what makes it to market.

>>60501654
>ionq will, therefore, crater
a bit like punching down? it's an ion trap, right? obvious it would never scale.

>>60501660
much in the same way gravitiational wave observatories are used to track ufos

>>60501740
>i would suggest that even in the case of biotech the tools and ultimately manufacturing be the limitations dictating what makes it to market.
are you esl?

>>60500958
The gotcha is already there dumbass, he shorted the top while we bulls did a 10x (more if you bought MSTR). The retarded schizos that followed Martin's advice are now pink zombies like:
>>60497954

Not only is quantum useless if we a real computer...but we will never have one. Science is literally all rugpulls these days and nothing new has come out in decades.

>>60502785
>nothing new has come out in decades.
>necrotic neovaginas
HA!
>do you see...
https://youtu.be/giiuqTdBSTc?t=33

>>60502010
>i would suggest that even in the case of biotech the tools and ultimately manufacturing be the limitations dictating what makes it to market.
ergo our tools and processes of manufacturing are dwarfed by theoretical understanding unremedied by even industrial qcs. i only find myself in agreement with martin's near-term outlook. i find myself in disagreement with himself and even those luminaries of the field for whom ten years ago even an quantum-annealing computer would've been considered science fiction. i did find martin's offhand remark indicating a resurgent optimism with respect to fusion seemingly out of place as fusion is the canonical case of vaporware.

>>60503166
>ergo our tools and processes of manufacturing are dwarfed by theoretical understanding unremedied by even industrial qcs
with quantum simulators being an exception

>>60501327
>and the rest talking about other peoples general opinion on the technology
a strained position to be sure given the national security implications and compartmentalized biased echo chambers; it's a big club and ifykyk.

>>60503166
>ten years ago
*twenty years ago

>>60501399
a fuzzy holographic quantum computer

>>60504681
i googled and found this is a real (recent) theoretical concept roughly approximating my description. not to be immodest or a tool but i've always found the bicameral contrast strange that for instance if i'd been directly asked, face to face, "oh, hey anon, we'd like you to spitball a new computing paradigm to solve the scaling issues in quantum computing..', i'd just be like "that's wild", "no shit", "idk, that's pretty far out there, man."
but if, within a noncommittal pretext, i myself provide the context begging the prompt of a placeholder question the conceptual hole will just be subconsciously filled - for better or worse - a sort of unconscious sensemaking occurs which is more or less derived not from me but from my dual.

>>60500896
>a three-body entangled system wherein quantum computing is carried out via tuned conjugate phase matching between a qc circuit analog (quantum computing analog of the delayed choice quantum eraser) residing in an artifical BH and the image of the ultimate circuit desired for implementation existing as some basis in projective space in which the configuration space of the BH-QC be determined in a non-linear fashion via destructive entangled interference
i guess this implies that the BH-QC and the control circuit are projective duals and what we actually doing, if you'll forgive the loose terminology, is tuning "symmtery breaking" residues.