how feasible would it be to get established in australia as a foreign young male from basically nothing? basically i want to get a passport and citizenship or at least a work visa of some kind, fly over there and start trying to work my way up to owning some land with full mineral/surface rights. the quality of said land is unimportant, actually i'd prefer it to not have any real value so the mining industry doesn't come after me. i'll decide specifically what type of business i want to make after i get closer to having the ability to purchase land.

ideally i'd like to have some type of manufacturing and/or material processing business but things change and so does my mind.

ive been trying to get a job for way too long, even minimum wage would be fine by me but unfortunately i don't have a formal education or people who can support me so thats not happening. i'm looking to sell everything i have (~70-900 usd) and move to another country. despite the gun laws, i'm thinking autralia is somehow the best pick. lemme know if you know a better place.

i'm not expecting this to be easy, or even reasonable. i'm willing to put in the effort. i literally have no education or credentials; no work experience either. how difficult would finding someone with work for me be? and how hard would it be to find a temporary place to live either for free or on loan be?

Send me 70-900 USD and I will get you set up in Australia. Let me know what crypto you would like to send me and I can post a wallet.

>>60497614
lol

We're literally full m8. Our infrastructure can't sustain this population boom. It was built for 10 million max now we're at 25 million..

learn a trade, learn it while you’re here or when you go. People there will also need plumbing fixed, houses framed, cars repaired. I suggest starting in a more rural part of the country where folks are gonna wanna be helped out instead of you needing schooling for industry standards. Possibly cheaper housing as well.

>>60497563 (OP)
There's a small bikie club in Australia that owns Rio Tinto and CFMUE, and you're not even in the country.

>>60497621
I am a White, non retarded beggar doing a working holiday to Australia soon with no intention of staying long term and really just living off of crypto gains. How fucked am I?

>>60497622
do you have a more specific rural area in mind? if you can get away without proper education/knowing industry standards i can absolutely wreck shop when it comes to basic home repair. once i get some of my own land i could also process/make all the materials for it too.

>>60497636
It'll be expensive. You could probably get a job easily.

>>60497647
>You could probably get a job easily.
What if I don't want a job. Could I sell drugs or steal things easily?

>>60497563 (OP)
fuck off we are full

max capacity

zero room

we = full

>>60497834
You need to get residence so you can qualify for Centrelink beer with the bogans.

>>60497563 (OP)
FUCK OFF YOU ECONOMIC LEECH FAGGOT WE ARE FULL
>>60497834
FUCK OFF YOU DEGENERATE BROKE FAGGOT WE ARE FULL

ACCESS TO AUSTRALIANS IS NOT A HUMAN RIGHT LEAVE US ALONE YOU FUCKING BROWN FAGGOTS AND NORTHERN HEMISPHERE KEKS

>>60497940
I would rather just sniff petrol with the abbos.

>>60497945
THEY STAY IN YOUR SHITHOLE COUNTRY FAGGOT WE DO NOT NEED MORE LOSERS PILING IN WE ARE FUCKING FULL FUCK YOU

>>60497964
I am going to go to the ceremony where aboriginal elders welcome me to their land and there is nothing you can do about it.

>>60497993
>I am going to go to the ceremony where aboriginal elders welcome me
white card revoked

>>60497563 (OP)
Which country are you leaving?

>>60497563 (OP)
its a great choice, the government will treat you better than actual Australians and give you free money and free house that the Australians work hard for(they get taxed 50% and it goes to ppl like you) also there isnt such thing as private property anymore in Australia, by law you can go into anyones house willie nilly and the police cant do anything

>>60498109
>by law you can go into anyones house willie nilly and the police cant do anything
i believed that happened only in the yookey.

>>60497563 (OP)
>foreign young male
no mentioning of race=brownoid invader

>>60497563 (OP)
Go away, we're at capacity!

>>60497621
So why don’t you just build infrastructure? Australia is a huge place.

>>60497563 (OP)
What race are you?

>>60499214
i don't fucking know, my skin is white. probably a mix of several. for some reason this board doesn't have flags, thought it did; living in usa currently

>>60499294
Why don't you know?

>>60498109
so long as they aren't breaking/stealing anything and i'm allowed to forcefully remove them from my actually private spaces i'm perfectly fine with the idea of people exploring/snooping my land; i think that breaking into my house should be an ok thing to warant picking up a person and carrying them outside without consequence yeah?

>>60499311
do you know all your ancestors? me and my family aren't on good terms, and if we were they probably don't know either since they also weren't on good terms with their parents. i come from multiple lines of poor as shit human trash, thats for sure.

to all the people saying that the place is full, what?
like, is there a land shortage or something? what do you mean by full? i intend to actually work and pay taxes, not like i wanna just leech off the government.

>>60497563 (OP)
>how feasible would it be to get established in australia as a foreign young male from basically nothing
It will be impossible. You will never own property, the only thing that matters here. You will be lower than a serf and not pitied, but rightly hated, by the population.

>>60499214
>>60499294
>>60499311
>>60499336
also, because i'm not like turbo racist or anything i have trouble distinguishing between races outside black, white, and japanese. i like me a good anime/manga so i'm intimately familiar with how they look in general.

>>60499211
because the people with the power to make the decisions to build more infrastructure stand to see the value of their massive property portfolios take a nose dive after they increase the housing supply. Same goes for the people voting them into power.

>"foreigner" (brown?)
>no formal education
>no consideration of the australian economic crisis or australian mining industry
>wants to OWN a precious metals manufacturing/processing business/company
>wants to OWN non-residential land. not lease, OWN.
>hasn't even achieved ownership of a visa/passport yet.
you're delusional and should rope or just stay in whatever shit hole you live in currently.
t. Australian.

>>60499473
well, why don't people pay for houses to be built themselves? here at least the government never builds or funds practical new infrastructure unless people are literally dying in its absence (not a surefire metric, needs some pressure in addition) or there are some rich people that want it there. the anti-homeless stuff in nyc wasn't something demanded by the people living there and costed quite a lot of tax money. the only exceptions they make are for intragovernmental use. my local mayor's office is a combined police station and a few other things; man is that a nice building. too bad main street was closed down >5 years while they built it and upgrades to other government buildings. not a dime has been spent on building houses for regular people in my state afaik.

building a house isn't exactly a monumental task; you need a specialized lawer on staff to deal with all the bs and arbitrary codes/regulations but other than that its pretty straightforward. not easy, but its something that can be broken down into smaller tasks reliably.

>>60499503
if you're having a economic crisis why not have another person there to help you overcome it?
some of the other shit you listed i have no idea where it came from. welcome to the thread ig.

>>60499461
black and white and japanese are not races you uneducated swine

>>60499528
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_ethnicity_in_the_United_States#Racial_categories

>>60499503
you'll struggle to even lease a house retard

>>60499544
well yeah, its gonna take some work like everything else in life.

>>60497563 (OP)
you can come and peg some tenements on vacant/ unallocated crown land (effectively all land in this cunt is owned by the crown/ government and we lease it from them). Prospecting is the easiest, you can have it for 4 years and then extend it for 4 years. In that time you will need to meet expenditure requirements based on the size of the tenement. If after the 8 years you can prove that there is some form of mineral resource there you can convert it to an exploration tenement which lasts 5 years with a 5 year extension and then a 2 year extension. Exploration is much greater for Exploration tenements. Then comes Mining tenements, 21 years no extension rules, however expenditure is significant. You could purchase an existing mining tenement. There are shitloads. This only gives you the rights to mineral exploration and production. You do not have rights to anything on the surface e.g., you can't harvest timber or anything else. Only the minerals.

>>60499578
*expenditure is much greater for exploration tenements.
Proper true freehold land exists in WA and other parts. Some of the WA freehold was issued pre 1899 and gives the owner mineral and surface rights e.g., timber and all other things. There is no royalty payable for 'royal' metals. This land is typically not for sale or if it is will be fucking expensive.

>>60499578
>>60499584
yikes. like mega yikes. yeah i'm not gonna go for australia if any of this is true.

>>60499606
kek, well that is the easiest way to do what you have described. but that is also how it is here. we are cuck-maxed convict class and so fucking lazy we haven't bothered to change any of the shitty laws and constitution or write up a bill of rights or any of the shit other sovereign countries do. just left it all a mix of british systems and the dodgy bandaid fixes we've applied to keep the cunt running over the years
>yer nah can't be fuck ay she'll be right mate

were you planning on paying for a house, land, a mining factory, tax overhead, and then ALSO hiring x amount of employees? Not to mention the amount you'd pay in insurance and work safety regulatory commission. genuinely curious. if you have less than 8 figs and you're considering this, you are so dumb it's genuinely insane.

Unless you’re Indian and bringing over a few million dollars you made running a scam call center in India, or Chinese with a few million dollars you made selling plastic junk to Americans, then you’re not going to have a good time here

>>60499637
well the original idea was to find work from some existing company there,save up for land with surface/mineral rights, then use the materials already on/in the land to build the buildings/equipment for my home/business and hire employees to run it. i was thinking manufacturing of some sort,possibly construction or material processing i.e. concrete manufacture.

>>60499656
and achieve all of this by what date, 2236? what made you think you can sustain a serious, experienced employee(s) salary? what funds do you already have?

>>60499645
What if I become a thief targetting Indians?

>>60499667
well, i was thinking if i worked at my local minimum wage equivalent (7.25 usd/hr) for 10 years, 8 hours a day and spent less than or equal to 20 usd a day on daily necessities i would have the equivalent of 138k saved up. i'd also try and get side jobs to buy/rent a house. possibly find someone willing to let me crash at their place in exchange for doing chores or something. but if having both surface and mineral rights are so elusive i don't think that'd be feasible.

I see retards from all over the globe trying to get into Australia like its some sort of paradise that will solve all of their life problems. Recently met some japanese who are trying to immigrate here while working on student visas living paycheck to paycheck while boarding with host families or being rentoids boarding with indians and other 3rd worlders. It's like the reverse of the weeb fantasy where they think they will escape their shitty lives back in japan by struggling here instead. What the fuck??

>>60499786
for reference as of now i'm living on 32-50 cents a day so that'd be way over what i'd need to live reasonably comfortable

>>60499799
you don't know how hard life is in japan for people who value freedom. or just in general.

>>60499799
so true. if they took researched at all, they'd realize this place is expensive as fuck and out of their reach
>>60499800
>32-50 cents a day
fucking lol i think this is just a troll thread atp.

>>60499805
You also don't know how fucked things are in Australia for the people that don't come from a well off family or on their own. The time when you could just come in and set yourself up by walking into a factory and giving the boss a firm handshake was decades ago, there is very little opportunity in the current day for someone starting out.
>freedom
Australia is not the place to be for that, hasn't been for awhile.

>>60499872
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Value-All-Purpose-Enriched-Flour-25LB-Bag/12444466
one of these a month. its not easy living on so little but it is possible.

>>60499873
well i mean usa isn't either. but compared to japan australia is way, way better in terms of freedom. even for the people that are well off in japan or come from good families they are basically slaves with special privileges; with the only exception being the like 500-2000 people actually running show there.

>>60498109
This is my plan.
I’m going to get Vanuatu citizenship with a small bribe and then apply for climate refugee status in Australia.

Some of the hopeful immigrants[spoiler]retards[/spoiler] I've met recently
>32 yo unmarried Japanese woman on student visa studying (or trying to, she lost her job and is dead broke) to be a kindergarten teacher in australia
>26yo clueless Korean psychology major who has no plans to enter the field and just came here to study english and find "a job" that needs english
>30yo guy, also from Japan, works part time as a barista while renting by himself, no plans to pursue any form of career, will just stay a barista in a foreign country for the rest of his life(???).
I have no fucking clue how these people are surviving. They need to go back for their own good. I am just venting here but I am amazed at the poor decision making that the average person displays.

>>60499918
have you asked them to explain their decision or are you just gonna keep judging them? theres more to life than money, comfort, or stability. those people may just have something else they value more.

>>60497563 (OP)
>no money
>no education
>wants to become Australian land baron
yeah nah cunt

Australia has a points-based immigration system which you were too fucking lazy and stupid to look up. You can see exactly what is required. If your passport is Seppo, you can get a WHV for up to three years and maybe marry some boong and huff petrol and get set up for life on bennies.

>>60500003
work visas aren't as difficult to get, and obviously i'm not expecting to just wake up tomorrow as a land owner ya daft cunt.

>>60499461
anime is illegal here and we'll king hit you if you bring that shit here

>>60499461
You're just bad at pattern recognition. Low IQ.

>>60499899
Checked and based

remember to give up your guns if the government tells you to do so

>>60500003
Australia's immigration system is very easy, thanks to the government, they are letting everyone in and giving them stimulus and a place to live.

>>60500176
lol at king hit, yeah you will be taken away by the police, they care about the refuges more than actual Australains that pay them. hahahaha

>>60499211
Because we couldn't be stuffed and like to just winge about everything

>>60497943
this but unironically

>>60499918
Pretty sure these people come from money, they all do. They're like the "failed" child of the family who moves overseas to give an appearance of them doing something with their lives, but it's all secretly being funded by their peoples who are too ashamed to admit it.

>>60499918
Pretty sure these people come from money, they all do. They're like the "failed" child of the family who moves overseas to give an appearance of them doing something with their lives, but it's all secretly being funded by their parents who are too ashamed to admit it.

Australia is beautiful but it is also a hard place, very hard.

>>60499294
>living in usa currently
Actual Australian here. I’d say you’re better off staying over there. If you’re struggling to make a living in the USA, life here is gonna kick your ass.

>>60499896
>eats nothing but a bag of flour for an entire month
Somewhat high effort trolling, thought you were legitimate up until this.

>>60503688
checked and correct, I'm also Australian, and would take a spot in the USA in a heart beat

>>60497563 (OP)
We only accept jeets, chinks, mudslimes and niggers

>>60499294
>i don't fucking know, my skin is white.

>>60499799
>I see retards from all over the globe trying to get into Australia like its some sort of paradise that will solve all of their life problems. ... What the fuck??

I live in Flyover Country and I want to move to Western Australia because I see it as the last nice place that isn't already completely built out.

Yes, the prices are high, but there's still lots of room to grow. Even if you look at just the southwest part, that's 2.9M people in an area 3x the size of Ohio (population 11.9M). Triple the size with 1/4 the population.

I recently did a geneology of my family back to Europe, and at some point they just decided to plunk down by the great lakes and stopped moving westward, and now it's impossible to get into the west coast. I want to be the person who shakes it up for my line.

>>60507775
It's all arid land, you dumb fuck.

>>60499518
>why don't people pay for houses to be built themselves?
They do, it just costs 5 times as much as in every other country because Australia is in the middle of nowhere

its a great place cause you can take Australian jobs and take the work off Australians, like Uber driver jobs

the government looks after aliens a lot better than their actual citizens

>>60497563 (OP)
You either need to be a tradie, willing to be a FIFO miner, or already have a shitload of money. Country is basically fucked.