Bill Miller long weekend edition

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

>Financial TV Streams:
https://www.newslive.com/american/cnbc.html
https://www.livestreamy.net/bloomberg/

>Charts:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com
https://www.koyfin.com/
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com

>Screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/

>Options
https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com
https://optionstrat.com/
https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

>Pre-Market and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Calendars
https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

>Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Misc smg:
https://www.financialjuice.com/home
https://tradingeconomics.com/
https://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickers
https://market24hclock.com/
https://wallmine.com/
https://fintel.io/
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator
https://brokerchooser.com/
https://www.chathamfinancial.com/technology/us-market-rates
https://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/data/building-permits

Previous >>60501219

What's on the menu?

>>60504012
There's nothing....

>>60504015
There's KR

>>60504021
good stores ngl
just got some pork butt there

OP should have been a meme about the retarded "woman" who thought she was going to have to pay for puts on TSLA at 240.

>>60504024
Maybe it's the case in Michigan, but Meijer was consistently better when it came to meat.

Have you ever made more in a year from your investments than your normal wagie salary? Was it a one time thing or was it like crossing a threshold where it became an annual occurence after that point?

>>60504031
You got to go to hollywood for meat here. I like meijer for general groceries though

>>60504024
Their e-coupon system is purposefully complicated and it annoys me sometimes...

>>60504036
threshhold, then you look at long term capital gains tax vs wagie tax and tell job to fuck off

>>60504047
I'm still many years away from retirement and if the market stays completely flat from here, my salary will add around +30% to my portfolio by the end of the year. It's still a very big chunk,

I wonder how low that number must get before retirement makes sense. Like if you're working 50 hours a week to add less than 10% to your portfolio it might start to seem like a waste of time. Then again it does cover my expenses before I even start putting money aside.

>>60504014
if you thought that the tariff dip was the end of everything you haven't seen anything yet... just watch on monday as the market opens and oil doubles in price. stocks will fall very very low and a partial recovery will take decades

>>60504064
conservative rule of thumb iirc is 4% drawdown, so for every 1M its like living off 40k a year. obviously you'll average more than that in gains but you'll also get shit on with inflation and if you get hit with a crash early on it'll hit harder

>>60504072
>stocks will fall very very low and a partial recovery will take decades
If your bearish assessment is correct, I'll do well. Otherwise it's just DCA on the downturn. It's inevitable.

>>60504014
SBSW is on the menu boys.
Buy SBSW!

>>60504074
I saw a video on youtube recently which showed that even with higher average returns, a more volatile portfolio can fail in retirement if it has a bad start, because you draw down on it and when the good years come down the line you don't have enough left in it to recover.

>>60504080
they are talking about closing a major oil distribution path so i would be very surprised if oil was red next week. of course its likely to be a nothing happens event but there is nothing more fearful than the markets

We still talk about stocks on this general right? Pepsico looks insanely bullish. Putting half my portfolio on it on Monday with a 2-3 month holding period timeframe open to adjustment:

>2008 Trendline support
>bullish divergence on weekly RSI
>monthly RSI at ATL
>bottom of bullflag that formed starting last year

>>60504118
The 200 monthly MA is also hovering right below which has never been tested in the stock's history. Literal unbreakable support.

>>60504094
>of course its likely to be a nothing happens event but there is nothing more fearful than the markets
I think they lost their sense of fear because the dip keeps getting slurped. Most indicators show severe economic strain and an imminent recession and the stock market still keeps testing new highs.

Everything is bullish until it isn't, but good luck timing when that'll happen.

>>60504064
>before retirement makes sense
Does your work provide you with health insurance? After you retire who will pay that? Health insurance can ben very expensive. So, in addition to work providing connections, salary, it allows you to accumulate more money to invest, and if you get pay raises you can accumalte more faster and retire earlier. You should run the numbers for your retirement expenses and inflation to figure out what your objectives are. After you retire you still work, just for yourelf, managing your money.

>>60504125
Not that I entirely disagree, but unbreakable is a bad mindset

>>60504118
I feel like as boomers die off their stocks will go down too.

>>60504131
yep but if the big boys still have big positions left a flash crash can easily be initiated. retail can slurp but if the market makers fear that we get the mighty depression from unaffordable and unobtainable oil retail wont be able to outslurp that

>>60504154
you underestimate my power

>>60504118
>>60504125
Oh baby baby, going go in long. Thanks for the tip anon. Good luck friend.

>>60504118
>Pepsico looks insanely bullish.
couch investor likes it

>have 401(k)
>can only do S&P 500 ETF

>>60504072
post shorts

>>60504187
can you do 0DTEs on it?

>>60504187
Its for your protection. Look into opening an IRA and contributing there instead and you can risk all of your money any way you want.

>>60504202
Got the IRA, it’s fine but I max the 401(k) as well to reduce taxable income. The IRA has zero benefits beyond “I can do what I want”.

>>60504072

Ya ever wonder why this scripted bullshit happens on the weekend? So it doesn't effect the stock market. It will be forgotten by Monday. No wonder you're a fucking poor.

>>60504207
>The IRA has zero benefits
tax free gains. you can take your riskie moves in your IRA and have your safe money in the 401k. Also consider a Roth401k for the tax free gains and less restrictive age withdraw limits. Maximize all potential options

>>60504230
I max a 401(k), the Roth IRA, and a HSA. But now that I can do this with a new salary, the market is stalling.

>>60504216
the uncertainty wont disappear over the weekend

>>60504243
it already has, everyone knows with absolute certainty what is going to happen

>>60504237
>the market is stalling
that's fine, its part of the cycle. Always have some cash ready for a major correction to invest incrementally to help speed the growth. No need to go all in when you have decades to go.

>>60504237
The most important thing is that you do not sell. Even if it feels like the world is ending just do not sell.

No one can predict returns and so on but the one thing that has always happened is that the market has always recovered. We're not 85 years old we can have the line go down for a bit, it'll come back before long.

Can you go global on the 401k or is it US only?

>>60504245
i read that someone sold sp calls for millions before the weekend. theres no way we see any green next week

>>60504252
I was watching this dude's youtube video of what would happen if someone retired with $500k in 1996 and withdrew $25k per year + inflation adjustment.
The blue line is all stocks, the others are 70/30 and 50/50 stocks/bonds.

He would have been fine in the end, actually ended up with more money after 20 years in retirement. But he would have had to endure a 50% drop over 3 years in the dotcom crash and a 60% drop over 18 months in the GFC. If he sold in despair he was toast.
Imagine retiring at 65 in 1996 and then 12 years later in 2008, when you're 77 years old, you realize you might not make it financially.

Anyway long story short, just don't sell.

We may not see a massive Vol event from this, as a lot of the short Vol positions got BTFO during the tariff decline.
We are more likely to see a gradual (but still potentially sizable) decline in the indexes, with relatively low realized volatility.

It has to be said that the US economy is not in an amazing position for this.
We are late cycle, with high but falling employment, the US government is pursuing stagflationary policy and there was already a high risk of fed policy mistake.
Low oil prices had been one deflationary and pro-growth factor making things easier for the US and the fed and this has the potential to flip into a major headwind if those prices rise considerably.

so are there still going to be talks with Iran on sunday to close on a new nuclear deal?

>>60504187
you will unironically outperform everyone here over 40 years if you contribute the entire time

>>60504277
There are a number of vids like that with different options. The best option is to have way more money than you need just in case, and some good diversity (stocks, bonds, land, gold, whatever) because there are always unpredicted problems. Once you leave the work force you may not be able to get back in unless you become a walmart greeter.

>>60504288
The attacks on Iran are part of the discussion. Even if Iran agreed to anything they will still be attacked and defeated. Its much larger than Iran. If you remember Iran was the last of the seven countries W bush wanted to destroy as part of the US plan to ensure its global domination for the next 100 years (project for a new american century). Once defeated the new Irandian government will cancel the freight transport deal with Russia as part of the attack on Russia, will control any oil sales to china as part of the attack on China, and new oil/gas piplelines will be built to transfer oil and gas to Europe so Europe will stop buying anything from Russia to cut off all of Russia's sales to Europe. This is all planned for many decades and is continuing while Russia and China think they can negotiate with the US. How to trade the empire? That is the question - invest in US defense and oil stocks.

>>60504314
i like the sound of that, of course if you hate america this would be bad news

>>60504351
that is why israel will not go through with it

>>60504072
This is a dumb mumu posting as a bobo spouting exaggerations, so he can mock bobos when oil "only" does something like +5% on monday
And /smg/posters, dumb as it is, believe this shit tier troll like the newfags the are

>>60504314
Iran also controls all of Iraq's oil sales since the American withdrawal - they already had some influence but now it's fully under Iranian control.

Iraqi oil is even more important to the world than Iranian, Iran only exports like 2mbpd and it all goes to China, heavily discounted due to sanctions. Iraqi oil is like 3.2mbpd and global.

Market crash incoming

>>60504314
Makes me wonder why China is being so passive towards US moves in the middle east. It's not in their interest for Iran to fall but they don't seem to care.

>>60504360
So after invading Iraq and occupying it for decades they still couldn't control its oil? They had an easy time ousting Saddam since he had a tenuous grasp on his country to begin with but they obviously can't invade Iran the same way for many different factors.

How can they possibly hope to defeat it? Starve the populace by sanctions and hope they revolt? If it didn't work for NK or Russia then there's no reason it would work for Iran. And even if they did somehow take Iran how can they stop it from succumbing to Russia/China influence the way Iraq has succumbed to Iran's influence?

The whole thing is an absolute mess. If they block China's oil then obviously it would affect China's exports to the US and backfire hard on America as a result.

>>60504371
russia has plenty of oil especially now that the eu doesn't want it

Would it be stupid to lease a Porsche Cayenne? I need a new car and I've distilled it down to that is the car I like most in the age of everything-looks-the-same.

I make around 300k/yr.

Imagine being on this ship, passing Hormuz and into the AG tonight

>>60504396
Why pay interest on it? Just buy it you make plenty of money

>>60504389
China still gets most of its oil from the middle east. With Iran down, the US would have complete control there. China also doesn't trust Russia that much.

>>60504396
>another high earning white guy under 60 leasing a new porsche
We're really blazing new cultural trails here

>>60504396
how the hell does everyone here make so absurdly much? in eu you have to do crimes to make anything like that.

>>60504408
1. People lie.
2. Life as an American is life on easy mode.

>>60504380
the iranian government is very unpopular among the populace, it'd be easier than a lot of countries to defeat it

>>60504398
leasing is often wiser for something like a Cayenne due to depreciation

>>60504396
>would it be stupid to lease
yes

I didn't realize the Ozempic company had such a rollercoaster

>>60504398
That's a good chunk of cash I'd rather invest into highly speculative assets, plus living in commiefornia I worry about ICE (internal combustion, not border jumpers) regulations.
>>60504407
Should I lease a miata instead??
>>60504408
I've been working for internet companies for like 15 years. First job was around 60k/yr, then worked my way up, and worked my way down. Now working my way back up.

>>60504371
>Makes me wonder why China is being so passive towards US
Look to the leaders. The most dangerous are the psychopaths/sociopaths as they are calm, cool, confident and totally ruthless. The west is run by them. Russia and China are run by softees described by the US as ruthless. Putin has said repeatedly he has been negotiating and attempting to negotiate with the US but the US always lies, and still he tries to negotiate. Same with China. W Bush attacked the middle east. Obama was clear he positioned US forces to surround China. They see it comming but they are weak. Its their problem. The US, England, France will destroy them because they are weak. The most most ruthless become the leaders because the rest think they can talk. Tell the Elk to talk to the hungry grizzly bear about diet choices and nutritional planning.

Seems bullish.

>>60504440
You should turn a beat F150 into one of those ten foot lifted mud crawlers with monster truck tires

>>60504446

>>60504446
total israel destruction confirmed

>>60504437
yeah it really got raped by the american biosimilars

>>60504451
I wouldn't mind a truck. I like the look of a RAM but no i-6 hurricane engine is not as intriguing over a HEMI.

>>60504454
I was reading the article that said Novo chose not to pay $450 to renew the patent in Canada and now it's the second largest market in the world for these things.

They paid the $250 fee then asked for a refund because they changed their mind, then didn't want to pay the $450 late fee.

So guys, what do you think about ENR?
>Energizer battery

They made shit in the USA so shouldn't be too impacted by tariffs. Everyone needs batteries. And their stock has gone down, but insiders have been buying.

You guys think it's a good idea?

>>60504465
>everyone needs batteries
correct, they dont need the ones made by ENR though

>>60504396
>>>/o/
My cousin bought a porche suv. Said it was pretty great at first but didn't appreciate the necessary maintenance and it did evenutally have some issues which was expensive.

I got myself a CX50 Hybrid. Pretty great fit for me. Not sure I'd want to get Porsche SUV. IMO it's tacky and very stereotypically American to >MUH SUV! Porsche is known for their roadsters, GTs, and 911. That's what I'd get if I was buying Porsche. That's like those clowns buying those lambo/ferrari SUVs. If you want that get a real SUV from an SUV brand.

>>60504446
my bags...

>>60504446
Total Jew Death or Total Arab Death?

>>60504422
>>60504396
Porsche Cayenne has womanvibes. SUV by Porsche? As a man? Wtf, I associate women with that. Look for a Maserati, they are cheap for whatever reason.

>>60504491
new cars all look so similar

>>60504446
Why are they acting like they ever could
Netanyahu fails he's going to be hung in the street, it's simple

>>60504491
I think Maseratis are cheap for a reason, you gotta make your life simpler not add another headache.

I like the new land cruiser but it's a 6 figure car here, they've gone completely nuts on the pricing.

>>60504419
They already tried the color revolution route a few years ago when the morality police killed that hijabi girl, and it failed.

>>60504479
good insight, thanks anon. I avoid /o/ at all costs. they just bicker and give you advice that sends you in a loop.
> If you want that get a real SUV from an SUV brand.
I like Range Rovers but not now they are owned by jeets and partially produced in India.
>>60504493
I feel the same way.
>>60504502
old land cruisers look sick. new ones look like like the FJ Cruiser

They are selling dollars for 50 cents

>>60504472
Other ones will have to pay tariffs. Except maybe duracell?

>>60504243
You act like we have never had a war before...

>>60504481

>>60504523
you misunderstand, people need large scale batteries for storage normie-batteries are going the way of the fax machine and their stack storage systems are decades behind

>>60504527
well honestly i don't remember what happened when the ukr stuff started

>>60504535
2022 was a bear market
Summer 2022 I remember Bitcoin was dirt cheap, and some tech stocks too - Facebook had gone all-in on VR and people panic sold

It was a great time to buy most things but the decline was "only" 20% because there was no official recession. Could be different this time as recession indicators are flashing red for some time now.

It was a good time to buy tanker stocks though, they were coming out of a multi-year bear market and the war coincided with what would have been a normal cycle, so it caused what people refer to as a "supercycle". Now the setup is already kinda strong so I don't know if they can skyrocket as much. Including dividends probably a 7-8x on some of these tanker stocks after Ukraine.

>>60504535
10% drop over six months followed by record bullmarket
and that was NATO vs russia basically as close as you can get to ww3

this is a slapfight between israel who america increasingly hates and iran who everyone already hated so unless we get samson optioned we're talking about a nothingburger

>>60504549
but how will they secure the oil route if the iranians decide to vandalize it which they might if they feel there is nothing to lose. they don't need to actually physically block it off. just randomly blast a tanker once in a while and that will already be huge trouble

>>60504446
US about to start some fun little target shooting.

>>60504549
ukraine vs russia, NATO hasn't participated aside from sending money and weapons that were collecting dust

>>60504546
I worked with a guy who kept telling me to buy TK and TNK circa 2016 or so. I just checked on it... what the fuck...

>>60504558
Because iran wont do that because that would piss off every other durka country who rely on oil shekels to prevent revolution.

>>60504563
> money, training and weapons that were collecting dust worth dozens of times the entire GDP of ukraine
And to put it in perspective, what do you believe the political reaction would be if russia was arming and training the retard rioters in california?

Iranian ballistic missile strike incoming

>>60504586
yes but thats why i said if they feel they have nothing to lose. like if both israel and usa and possibly those other oil countries threaten total destruction there then why not fuck with the enemies a bit before they get to it

This shit is crazy yo

>>60504600
ive been watching al jazeera lately, shits nuts

>>60504601
If I lived there I would get the heck out

>>60504586
where the hell did you get that number? never heard someone say it totaled to $1.5 trillion+

>>60504594
That's largely why wars are almost never fought to the end. The generals underneath him would have a choice, perform a coup and get fucktons of shekels and a lifetime of luxurious power or mess up shipping for a month and die.

>>60504588
NASCAR is actually racing in Mexico City this weekend

>>60504609
Do you believe there's any categorical difference between 3-5 times and a dozen times to the argument or is this just an ackshually?

bitty coins are freefalling. blood red stooge markets coming next week

Israel hitting Houthis now lol.

>>60504632
Funny how crypto currency crashes everytime the market crashes. It's almost as if institutional investors buying in makes the whole thing even more manipulated

>>60504660

>>60504491
>Ghibli

>>60504663
BTC is 50% TQQQ, 30% international remittances and 20% gold.

>>60504546
Decline was only 20% (actually 30% on the NASDAQ) and did a rebound because the FED intervened and had the means to do its soft landing.
Now, not so much.

i guess i bought the dip too soon

I will NOT panic sell.

You will know fear

>Told you to buy oil and uvxy on friday
I tried anons...

>>60504746
https://www.aljazeera.com/live

holy shit theres just a feed of random shit on fire including oil rigs

>>60504746
well it did feel like a possible nothing happens rugpull so can't blame them

So Israel hit the gas field refinery, Iran hit the Haifa refinery, and Israel now hit the Tehran refinery in retaliation.

Does this stop?

The "Tanker War" during the 1980's lasted from 1981 to 1988.

>>60504686
futures?

>>60504446
Huh

>>60504763
Wait until they close the straight of hormuz....
I'll remember you frens.

>>60504777
>lucky sevens
Lucky for whom?

>>60504763
Fuck the small hats, this is financial life advice

Feels good being all in military right now. The world is shitter than it has ever been and I will get rich because of it.

>>60504819
to bad my portfolio is only 5% military related :(

TA bros, what's the best SMA indicator to use? 10d? 30d? 200d?

How many of you guys have like, passport, foreign residency, etc? Apparently it's good to have travel documents ready to go

>put myself on the robinhood card waitlist in january
>already got picked from the list
>robinhood isn't even my main broker
lol

>>60504763
Anon, the current conflict started on the 49nd (7x7)th anniversary of the Yom Kippur war of the 80s. Of course things are going to be a repeat of what happened then. We've already got like 10% (more like 50-60%) headline inflation, just need that last surge in oil prices.

Remember to scoop up tons of copper, silver, and uranium near the bottom in a year or two

>>60504830
Here's something fun I thought about. Normally you want to use multiple timeframes to confirm a trend, right? Like using 1h/4h charts.
But when you use two MAs, that's effectively what you're doing. You can stick with the shorter timeframe (1h), and doing 50/200 crossovers means you're effectively using a 4h confirmation (200 ma)

is that retarded foreign investment tax going to nuke the stock market

>>60504819
>>60504826
Here's mine. My largest account for sure, but I probably have another $15k kicking around between other stuff (mostly bonds).
I'm holding SGOV here to get a fairly stable dividend on my cash while I wait to make monthly buys

>>60504862
Retail zoomers have no idea what's coming. And they don't even have an excuse, we already had a bear market due to inflation in 2022 and its (localized) energy crisis.
I won't shed a tear for those that will baghold their ∞ P/E shit for a decade.

>>60504917
I have about 224oz of physical silver I bought a decade ago, but I have no gold position. I feel like I should get a handful of GLD shares and then maybe grab a few leap calls on it

>>60504830
i only really care about the 200D SMA, if it's above the market is generally bullish, below is a time to be cautious/buy

>>60504763
oil prices were too low for too long, here comes the forced correction

>>60504314
>W bush wanted to destroy
yes moishe it was totally bush who wanted it

>>60504314
>project for a new american century
founded by bill kristol and and robert kagan, husband of victoria nudleman (changed to nuland because of course she did). why don't you do an early life check on those, fucking retard

bullish >>>/pol/507397984

>>60504997
Ah, that's right. Most of my crypto is on one platform. I ought to shove some into a private wallet

>>60504746
I bought PBR a few weeks ago in anticipation of this inevitable Israeli chimp out

Why is nobody talking about UNH?
Seems like a crazy tumble for something like missed earnings.
I know there's going to be an investigation or whatever, but still

>>60505045
They do have actual business issues and the admin is really shaking up healthcare and it’s not clear for better or worse from the insurance company perspective. It does get talked about here sometimes, I slurped 25 shares at 299 and have resolved to just let it ride for a few months at least

>>60505045
a 300 dollar stock is not that interesting. you can get nvidia for half of that

>>60505066
Is this bait, or do you only make really tiny investments?
nvidia was a $1200 stock before they 10-for-1 split

>>60505076
>>60505066
Most brokers also allow for partial shares, too.

Palantirbrosisters

>>60504830
>TA bros, what's the best SMA indicator to use? 10d? 30d? 200d?
depends on what tool you wanna use, in which situation
if you're trying to get a basic idea of where "the market" is going, you'd look at the 200 day moving average of S&P or QQQ. If it's above, then it's a bull market, if below then a bear market
"probably"
Use your common sense here, and backtest it using historical data
But you might be VERY interested in using a 5d or 20d for individual stocks, to see where they are moving more short term
then of course you have the death cross or golden cross when the 50d and 200d meet. This happens when its drops so fast that the 50d (which is more responsive) drops, while the 200d still has not caught up, so the two lines cross
That's using the 50d and 200d combined together.
So try things out, play with the numbers and the charts. get a feel for how the 10d, 20d, 50d, or whatever behave. And different stocks will behave differently. So there is no one way of doing it. It depends on the situation

Use the right tool for the job.

>>60505085
I swung it at 8-12, and missed out

Nothing-ever-happens-fags BTFO
https://x.com/bonzerbarry/status/1934038665019207756

>>60505211
>the fucking state of the state of the art "iron dome"

and now Yemen is reportedly sending missiles in tandem with Iran seeing the opportunity

>>60505211
futures freefalling?

>>60505220
To be fair, it's not Iron Dome's role to intercept ballistic missiles. You need another dedicated system for that. I think it's Arrow-something, but then, again, ballistic missiles are a bitch to intercept.

>>60505220
love how they always have to attack at night

>>60505224
despite the fact you can see the flares and trails of the missile, they are harder to see

>>60505211
Yo what the fuck is going on this is insane

>>60505230
israel thinks iran hasnt been arming themselves for the last 50 years and they have a lot of long range shit that is super hard and expensive to shoot down

>>60505233
that might be the wests greatest weakness. theres all kinds of fancy shit that costs a fortune that will get btfo simply by exhausting the reserves. did they not learn anything from the russian tactics

I went all in on a tech etf before close because I thought nothing ever happens. Of course, I was wrong this time.

>>60505233
>>60505242
>>60505243
I think this is it pals. This very moment. Something bad is brewing, I think we've just past deescalation window

>netanyahu isnt even in the country as it gets fucking domed by ballistics
this guy is gonna get musolinid if he doesnt kill himself first

Tel Aviv is literally getting bombed to shit during Trumps military parade. The foreshadowing is incredible

>>60505211

Oil status?

>>60505211
iron dome more like iron bug screen?

>>60505280

>>60505276
how can this be happening to the gods chosen people...

>sold my big fat pile of suicide puts before all this
good grief
thankfully they're so deep OTM and so far dated they don't fluctuate as hard as you'd expect

>>60505286
somehow crypto is taking this chill

>>60505276
>Tel Aviv is literally getting bombed to shit during Trumps military parade.
Shouldn't have sent that golden pager.

>>60505287
hopefully that means monday will be lower volatility than anticipated and i can re-enter my puts for cheap

>>60505287
If we open green I'm going to shit myself in bed

>>60505287
I don't think these latest videos have been posted on news networks yet... it's also a Saturday night, news travels slow...

>>60505281
Issue with missile defense is that it's easily overwhelmed.

>>60505298
Its not the 60s anymore nigga we got twitter

>>60505301
Nigga I'm saying hedge fund operators and people with access to big money invested in crypto haven't gotten the memo yet, no retards like you and me faggot

>>60505309
They probably have, they just cant trade on weekends because big boys' exposure to bitcoin is via MSTR and its bonds and shit

>>60505309
Anon you are drastically underestimating the sophistication of hedge funds and big money. They are fully up to date on their technology and info gathering processes.

>>60505335
While that may be true, doesn't change the fact that top management and decision makers are not working this time of the week, and for big positions to be changed due to unverified videos graphically displaying the start of WWIII is not a gamble most would take lightly

>>60505211
I wonder how those idolcorp girls are doing. I hope they're ok.

>>60505382

Holy shit, new video dropped:
https://x.com/bonzerbarry/status/1934052253305856327

Time to sell everything?? Yes/No hurry please

>>60505392
Tel Aviv and Gaza gonna be indistinguishable in a week

>>60505392
its weekend. you will hold and the bots will choose the nanosecond markets open

options status might have some clue as we already knew some of this on friday

>>60505382
I hope none of them get surprise graduated by a goatfucker missile...

>>60505392
kek aren't these retards supposed to be in shelters?

>>60504118
Bought a leap

>>60505211
Iron dome more like iron dumb

Is it too late to transition from SOXL to GUSH?

Random thought but I can't believe that Silver has slightly outperformed SPY over 5 years. Actually insane. SILVER

Doesn't Israel have nukes? What exactly is Iran's game plan here?

>>60505492
what is exactly israels gameplan
theyre getting fucked up by both yemen and iran right now

i cleaned my base boards for the first time in 5 years.

>>60504021
I'm holding about $6k in KR. I think they'll beat earnings.

>>60505494
It's incredible, doesn't this mean these missiles are also getting past the US support details as well? Imagine how many are actually launching to get these through, and how many more they might have left

>>60505494
>hamas
defeated
>hezbollah
in shambles
>houthis
severely damaged
>iran
several dead generals, nuclear scientists, and damaged nuclear faciltiies

They know what they're doing.

>>60505584
no no but iran is winning because uhhh israel bad the jews are in my walls

>>60505592
>he still doesn't know

>>60505490
It's more surprising that the S&P's performance is so close to that of silver. At least silver has some kind of intrinsic value, whereas the S&P of the 2020s so far is practically a shitcoin

>>60505610
It pays a dividend and doesnt have costs associated with storing bullion

>>60505617
Silver can conduct electricity or be fashioned into a spoon for me to eat my fucking cocoa puffs in the morning. The average S&P 500 company in current year has a P/E ratio of approximately 900 meaning it might as well not exist

>>60505627
You can fashion a tree into a spoon too and it doesn't increase the value of wood? How is that an argument in favor of silver?

One of us is retarded

>>60505627
If you were retarded enough to buy the machinery to manufacture silver into anything useful then sure.
>The average S&P 500 company in current year has a P/E ratio of approximately 900
no they dont

>>60505631
>You can fashion a tree into a spoon
Do you realize how expensive tree spoons are?

>>60505631
Theoretically the ability to turn wood into a spoon actually is a small part of its value, but I was just being flippant. One of us is autistic.

>>60505632
Actually two out of the three of us are autistic

>>60505627
>be fashioned into a spoon for me to eat my fucking cocoa puffs in the morning
Silver tarnishes. I'd rather have a titanium spoon if I wanted an expensive spoon. At least titanium is mostly inert.

>>60505494
>what is exactly israels gameplan
US intervention. Trump's administration currently says they want nothing to do with Israel's chicanery, which kinda made them a bit worried.

With that said, I would lol, lmao even if this is the one decision that orange man doesn't TACO on.

>>60505494
infinkte shekelsfrom blackmailed politicians
So business as usual

>>60505645
platinum's also a working mans metal wont scratch with basic bitch shit and doesnt need pussy ass polishing.
silver is for cucks

>>60505530
the US sent some aircraft carriers over but those cant stop a literal rain of ballistics
>>60505584
do you think jihadi governments dont have plans a, b, c, d, and f at the ready

>>60505683
Silver and copper are going to be needed for the EV meme as well as the data center needed to support the AI shit (after the next crash/downturn)

>>60505685
What is the current "plan" they're enacting? Seems like they're just aimlessly firing missiles into Israel like they always do in some kind of attempt to be scary, undoubtedly doing hundreds or even thousands of dollars worth of damage to several Israeli McDonalds and bus stops. Given that, no, I don't believe the goatfuckers ever have a plan other than maybe a ground offensive using their arsenal of "military vehicles" consisting of various mismatched pickup trucks.

>>60505715
their job is to bait netanyahu
the difference is this time their missiles are actually hitting infrastructure and killing people

>>60505715
their plan was to launch a lot more missiles at israel than they actually did but they couldn't because israel already destroyed a bunch of their shit

>>60505711
not as things miniaturize
square cube law is god
name a single property other than price and malleability in which copper and silver can compete

>>60505733
Theyre the two most conductive base metals
Copper wiring is used because silver wires dont scale

>>60505685
have you seen a middle eastern country? they cant even do central planning

>>60505748
and platinum wiring is used because copper wiring does not scale at anything sub nanometer, too soft and melts to shit if any current is used

>>60505758
have you seen a western country? how's the central planning working?

>>60505211
>>60505222
checked
I need me some iron dome, aha.

>>60505222
>You need another dedicated system for that.
THAD - theater high altitude defense, which the US gives them for free.

Calling options anon - I see some crazy miss priced options from time to time, How can I find these faster and sell them before they adjust ?

>>60505280
>Futures

>>60505802
let me check... hmmm... no yeah looks pretty good next to the alternative

>>60505795
need copper for more than wiring
it's a war metal

>>60505826
99% of the time its because of shitty brokerages lying about spreads, jew MMs black scholls everything instantly. Now their underlying information can be shit but its not mistiming or mispricing per se.

>>60505830
if you're planning a ground war, so sucks for europoors i guess.

>>60505826
are they actually mispriced or just the mid price being distorted by one side? If you can find a scanner to do something like options that increased by several multiples in the last day or do a % of share price filter. Not many support that but honestly you probably wont get a fill because options prices are just solutions to equations in 2025. Even my 13ish year old textbook says options aren't really mispriced. the only guaranteed fill is what bid/ask is.

>>60505831
Is it possible someone set an automated buy order based on strike and premium and the stock price has changed before they come back and adjust their order? I am not thinking of goldman sachs here, more like jerry sachs who learning options day trading.

>>60505834
don't care about europoors, loading up on copper and gold penny stocks

>>60505840
i wish you the best though fear your imminent poverty

>>60505211
Is something actually going to happen? Holocaust 2.0? USA can't just leave their greatest ally to be eradicated. It is time for BOOTS ON THE GROUND

>>60505836
>are they actually mispriced
still new and a bit retarded, but interested. See the premium listed for 177.5 I use yahoo finance a lot for some reason I find it easier to scan a larger set of prices than Schwab.

>>60505842
copper and gold literally unlosable positions for the next 5 years
ww3: copper and gold go up
no ww3: copper and gold still go up

>>60505850
as i said i wish you the best

>>60505848
why did you put a frog over the percent change. I can assure you however that it is definitely mispriced. there is no inefficency there. what you would really want to do is look at the bid/ask because it is probably showing you mid price, which is the middle of the bid and ask. It can be distorted by one side being retarded and putting a price that moves the middle price way in their direction. CBOE is required to provide some form of liquidity to options so the bid/ask is often automated. in particular the bots will schizo out sometimes and put silly numbers in to avoid assignment risks such as a big move or an indicator dinging them.

>>60505838
>>60505826
This often happens on euro options which are less liquid. (((((Market makers)))) price options so you can't turn a profit, and give insane spreads on top. The only winning move when that happens is not playing, which is why I stick with spy iron condors for daily income.

>>60505853
thanks dawg

>>60505858

>>60505856
>This often happens on euro options which are less liquid.
This is an american option for CRWV

>>60505854
>why did you put a frog over the percent change.
Pepe is pointing to the last price. The columns for the puts are strike, last price, change, % change, volume and open interest. ignore the gray highlight.. I am semi trying to use Excel VBA to pull the data from Yahoo and do a few calcs on the columns to show me which ones are mispriced to easily ID them before they change.

>>60505870
You can't really tell the true price of options until market opens unfortunately, because in pre market bots have super wide spreads and fuck it up.


Also we need to oust dividend niggers, since you can have 10x the income by selling covered calls.

>>60505880
>since you can have 10x the income by selling covered calls.
teach me the ways, I am ready

>>60505870
is last price last trade price, or mid price? you need to know that. you arent guaranteed a fill at that price because its neither the bid nor ask, just the average of the two. You need to use schwab for this really. I think youre gonna put yourself in a very exhausting rabbit hole. Since these are CRWV options (100% IV LOL) there is maybe a chance to scalp but you most definitely are not getting a fill. imagine it as bidding for a share of SPY at 450. You're not gonna get filled.

>>60505880
>he doesnt sell cc on divvie stocks
yikes

>>60505887
>is last price last trade price
as I understand it last price is the last price paid by the buyer, so it could be higher or lower than bid or offer. The fact someone paid it would inspire me to offer to sell one at same price again to see if there is still a buyer for a short period of time.

>>60504277
Did they sell the bottom or sell the top and buy back in. Huge difference between sell the top and buy back in later and selling the picobottom and never getting back in.

>>60505884
1. Buy at least 100 shares of a non meme stock with good IV, the perfect one for me atm is hood
2. Find a resistance level, sell the covered call at that price on Monday
3. Collect premium on Friday, roll it to next week.

If you get assigned just start wheeling. Added bonus of covered calls is that they protect your underlying if it dips.

>>60505897
>Find a resistance level,
you mean an upper resistance level, correct?

>>60505906
Well resistance usually means the top price an underlying usually reaches, so yes. The opposite is called support.

>>60505909
I dont think you would want to sell at resistance. the stock declining in price is the worst case for selling CCs. Do it at support

>>60505919
Selling a covered call at support literally loses you money. You want to sell calls at higher price than what you bought the stock always.

>>60505923
why arent you selling the CCs at the same time as you purchase the stock? you are taking on more risk by legging in like that. You cant guarantee you buy it and it moves in that direction. If you are so certain of that move up for more favorable writing conditions you should pick a different strategy to capitalize on that.

my home's property value is collapsing. luckily most of my net worth is in real assets like stocks instead of boomer memes.

>>60505909
ah, got it, thanks. Without being that familiar with all the lingo, that is what I am already doing at small scale to be sure I understand how the web app works, how to select the strike, and set limit for the price I want. Its odd to see negative values even though I am making money on the trades.

>>60505925
I think we are saying the same thing so I'll give an example from this week.

I bought HOOD at 72 and immediately sold a 75 call (resistance).

Hood stayed just below 75 all week. Come Friday I close the call position and collect the theta decayed premium. Should hood go over 75 and cause my call to get assigned, I will have sold my stock at a higher price than I bought, so I make 3 dollar per share + premium profit.

If I sold a call at support (let's say 70) then I would have lost money since I would be forced to sell at 2 dollars less than I bought, and the premium received would not have covered the difference enough to turn in a net gain. Selling deep itm calls is used for running verticals or when you want to exit a position you have for a long time gracefully.

>>60505933
What broker are you using? I'm using ibkr and I think it has the best options chain UI

>>60505938
>What broker are you using?
Charles Schwab. The options chain interface seems clunky to me. I seem to find Yahoo finance options page easier to use (I know yahoo is not a brokerage with official quotes). I am not a programmer, but was thinking maybe I can learn Schwabs API to scan the option prices for the mis priced ones than can make me more money.

>>60505936
right. I see. you are right. Just writing the strike higher than what you bought at. I usually write strikes at what I bought them e.g. buy 72 sell 72.

Still you have very little downside protection with a higher strike and since robinhood has doubled in price in like 2 months and tripled in the last year you might heem yourself by bag holding a dump being caught in a CC write unless you are absolutely comfortable holding robbing goyim stock at 72 minus your premium.

>>60505943
I think you should switch to ibkr. You know what ? Come Monday, visit this general and tell me your option plays and we can discuss and profit or lose together. I am currently running a spy iron condor and 2 hood csps to take advantage of weekend theta decay. I have no idea what will happen on Monday, I assume a dump due to hormuz fuckery.

>>60505943
use charles schwab's ToS. god I wish they would give me options access.

>>60505948
Robing goyim imo is a top tier investment atm.

- Excellent fundamentals, they are printing money and won't stop any time soon

- 70% is ((((institution)))) owned meaning it follows spy movements + low rugpull chance

- Less affected by market fluctuations than tech stocks

Come q2 earnings they will breach 100 easily.

>>60505949
>visit this general and tell me your option plays
sold CRWV 03/07/2025 170c sold for 7.45

sold CRWV 13/06/2025 155p sold for 10.40 (just got assigned). Looking to see what happens Monday, it either rips or crabs. If crabby looking sell another 170 call two or three weeks out.

Will check back Monday

>>60505926
My home's value is surging on zillow. New ATHs just today.

>>60505954
why write cc's that might get called away then? wouldnt you want to own them? I'd hate to sell at 75 plus a measly premium when it rallies to 100 like I thought it would. Also 70% institution feels like a rug waiting to happen.

>>60505966
It's a stock, not your kid. You trade it to make money. You can sell at 75+ premium, rebuy on pullback, and do it again. Or buy 200 shares and wheel half f it. Buy low sell high. I use premium from options to buy etfs btw, and those yeah I never sell.

>>60505956
I personally do not touch crwv because it can move 20% in a day. I may get in with a bull put spread if it dumps this week. My favorite strat is spy otm iron condors, literally free daily money.

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/israel/real-threat-iran-tehran-most-dangerous-option-responding-israel

Clinton guy seems to think Iran will get the bomb eventually but wrt oil and shipping he says NEH

>>60505983
>Iran will get the bomb eventually
Making a simple one is easy. Its the miniaturization to be delivered by missile that is harder.

>>60505992
Yeah well, he thinks they'll do that. Anyway he thinks they won't want to piss everybody off by fucking with the economy

Brehs, monday everything will be red, except defense stocks, won't it?

>>60506032
SBSW will be green

>>60506032
Petrochem will be green, copper will be green, gold will be green and some condef will be green

>>60506032
Honestly I think def will be red too, not as bad as everything else and they will probably recover fast.

i hope you all own some bitcoin right now. insiders slurped traditional markets friday. m2 is about to bust a nut. plenty of piss to drink. if there's another dip monday, it isn't lasting long.

How is everyone this Sunday? I hope the burgers aren’t still up, bad for the sleep schedule. I’ve got a little bulletproof coffee and am looking for something cool to listen to

>>60506032
Tankers will be green - especially crude (DHT / FRO)
American oil producers will be green - Warren Buffett owns a big chunk of OXY
Offshore drilling will be green - SDRL is owned by the same big guy as FRO

Geopolitical disruptions turn ships into money printers

>>60506141
One more to consider: GLNG

They have a unique segment of creating offshore LNG production platforms. It costs billions in capex and takes years to make one. They have some already in production and recently agreed to employ them in Argentina.

I like the company in general, decent moat, the fundamentals make sense, management seems good, but if Qatar cannot ship LNG out of the gulf that turns them from a good company into a rocketship.

>>60506141
>>60506149
thanks for the info man

How to profit from pic related?

>>60506181
>it’s real

>>60506149
Then also look at SBM offshore, that produced like 7 FPSO for Guyana and is currently creating one for Total's/APA's namibia.
Or look at Technip Energies. Which also creates giant industrial structures

>>60506032
>Israeli SM down 0.50% after the escalation of the war, destroyed refineries, capital bombed
>oh no, it's over, SELL, SELL, SELL!
Oh yeah, it's time for the usual bipolar disorder episode on /smg/, how sweet. Wake me up when you cum green next week.

>>60505494
Over the last couple of years all of Iran’s proxies and allies have been taken off the board - Israel used 7th October attacks as an excuse to eliminate Hamas, then they bent Hezbollah over and fucked them so hard they won’t walk again for years, Assad’s regime collapsed because Russia is too busy in Ukraine, and Putin has his hands too full to come to Iran’s aid either. That only really leaves the Houthis, and they’re no threat, while most other middle-eastern nations are not Allied with Israel, but are geopolitically aligned with them in disliking Iran. The Iranian leadership has been having to work overtime the last few years to keep a lid on massive protests and unrest. Bibi has seen all the stars aligning and regards this as perhaps a once in a generation opportunity to create the circumstances for regime change, the Israelis reckon that by fairly surgically taking out key personnel and state apparatus they can give the Iranian opposition a solid chance of mailing it happen.

As for how this affects /biz/, oil-related stuff will moon in the short-term, but watch out in the longer run because if Iran manages to come in from the cold they will open up access to massive reserves.

Will my uranium moon if they start shooting nukes?
Surely they’re going to want more uranium if they want to build more nukes?

>>60506212
Bibi himself seems to be in a very precarious internal situation. I'm not sure how bad it is but I've read theories that he's only doing this because if his country wasn't distracted by external threats they'd throw him in jail.

>>60506181
Thanks Donald Trump, one nation under ZOG

>>60506242
This is also true, and Bibi’s only real chance of staying in power is to be a successful wartime leader. Of course it’s entirely coincidental that these dominos requiring years of careful positioning have all been moving into place at the same time, and that the entire Israeli security apparatus just so happened to be caught napping at the optimum moment to set them all in motion.

>>60506242
Gee, I wonder what Bibi will think of next.

https://x.com/WarMonitors/status/1934056325417193937

oh no, not the dreaded wedgie

>>60506270
what is amazing to me is that a retard like that has 350k followers

How does this conflict affect Europe's oil conpanies?

>>60506212
>>60506242
>>60506254
>>60506255
Let’s not forget the role of the Saudis in all of this either. For years they’ve been fighting proxy wars with Iran in all of the surrounding conflicts. In 2023 they started negotiating with Israel to normalise relations, and an Israeli delegation visited them just a month before the Gaza war broke out, another entirely coincidental turn of events. I’m sure that the Israelis and Saudis would never concoct a secret agreement to weaken Iranian influence in the region.

>>60506270
>6 month TA
Honk honk

>>60506311
Saudi is playing both sides. They normalized relations with Iran at the same time they normalized with Israel. Even now MBS is "condemning" Israeli attacks in call with the Iranian president. They are neutral and have no preference for a single side over the other as far as I can tell. They would probably prefer that they both destroy each other so it can take over the region.

>>60505926
>luckily most of my net worth is in real assets like stocks instead of boomer memes.
Basing net worth on things like property values is like determining net worth with unrealized gains.

>>60506141
>Geopolitical disruptions turn ships into money printers
But why? Aren't tankers supposed to be top target when oil shanenigans happen on the middle east?

>>60506141
Chevron's M&A in Permian shale is about to pay off massively

>>60506337
So money is better with massive inflation? Real assets at least have a relative value

>>60506315
yeah, 1min chart is better

>>60506343
Yes but that's why their rates climb.
If you're going to risk an expensive asset you're not going to do that for breakeven rates. It must be worth it.

When Ukraine happened, tankers that were previously worth $15m were suddenly generating $10m in profit every year in the legit market, and a lot more than that in the Russian market. Of course they were worth a lot more than $15m by that point.

How are you guys feeling about intel in the near future?

>>60506424
don't they have operations in israel? probably crashing close to zero next week

>>60506424
as an tech outsider and someone who isnt really that familiar with their product very bearish. I dont hear them throwing around the ai buzzword, so they are late to the party in that regard. I also see consumers pick more and more amd cpu's. not just retail consumers like gamers but also server provider. they had their monopoly but that time is long gone, there are competitive competitors on the market.

>>60506337
you can realize those though. the house will be most valuable to you, a place to live in and might not be worth much if its in a comfy place, say away from the big city somewhere where you don't see into the other house from your window

>>60506424
Near future pump to ~25. After that it probably goes into single digits in the next 2-3 years.

Imagine buying fortinet 10 years ago

>It's true


2021:

>This room is the nerve centre of a bunker dubbed the ‘Fortress of Zion’, a new Israeli army command post deep underground beneath its headquarters in the heart of Tel Aviv. It is designed to command the kind of high-tech air wars that have supplanted ground invasions fought by tanks and infantry battalions.

>https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/22/world/middleeast/israel-fortress-of-zion.html

>https://www.israelhayom.com/2018/11/28/idf-completes-construction-of-new-wartime-command-and-control-%E2%80%8Ecenter-%E2%80%8E/
>The IDF had hoped to complete the bunker's construction several years ago, but the project hit numerous budgetary and technical difficulties. Eventually, a tender was issued for the construction. The winner was a U.S. defense contractor, which enabled Israel to use U.S. aid to complete part of the project.

Also:

>https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/report-shin-bet-prepares-underground-bunker-for-leaders-ready-in-case-of-war/
(2024)
>Report: Shin Bet prepares underground bunker for leaders in case of war
>An underground bunker in Jerusalem where senior leaders can remain for an extended period during a war has been prepared by the Shin Bet security service, the Walla news site reports.

>The bunker can sustain hits from a range of existing weaponry, has command and control capabilities, and is connected to the Defense Ministry headquarters in Tel Aviv, the report says.

Talking about Hamas hiding behind civilians.

Tesla this monday ?
Red or green ?

>>60506489

It won't drive without seatbelt buckled. Cuckstool vibes. Why would I wear a seatbelt when the AI is so much safer? FREEDOM.

Saudi - opened -3% and then recovered a bit

>>60506489
market wide reds for years to come

>>60506548
Tel Aviv green

It will be hilarious if US markets open green

Here are some scams/ stupidity:

1) Dividend stock/ etfs : not worth it unless you can dump a literal million on one. Covered calls beat them until then.

2) Yieldmax schemes: You are literally paying for ((((managers)))) to do covered calls for you and give you a fraction of the proceeds. You can cover call yourself.

3) Crypto: Only btc matters and it's a long term investment. Stay away from anything else. Do not expect weekly profits like covered calls give you.


Nothing can beat the covered call and cash secured put. Stop trying to reinvent the wheel and get on it.

>>60506571
IF SUNDAY IS OPEN IN ISRAEL WHY IS SATURDAY CLOSED IN EUROPE AND US

>>60506578
different culture. they would get huge withdrawals if shekels couldn't be made in so many days. euros an americans are poors that hate the rich so they don't need it

>>60506578
I think Arabs and Israel do Sunday-Thursday so today's moves also sort of include the Friday stuff for them

>>60506571
>It will be hilarious if US markets open green
I unironically believe this is extremely likely

>>60506575
>Dividend stock/ etfs
Not only that but dividends can be a tax nightmare for non-Americans, the default withholding tax is 30% and that's before local taxes.

It's just better to pick accumulating ETFs that reinvest their divvies automatically for so many reasons, it's better for taxes, it removes the choice from you whether you should reinvest or spend (dumb), you don't have to actually reinvest yourself which requires action and commissions/fees on the trade etc.

>>60506391
I hope this isn’t a joke, genuinely

>>60506311
i mean didn't hamas attack because it was scared of that nomalization? it figured it needed to do something and fast to stop that

>>60506032
SOXL will be green

>>60506608
>he doesn’t know about the strike on David Soxls hotel
Buy the rumour sell the news newfag

>>60506644
>>60506644
>>60506644

>>60506484

#1 Hamas is mossad.
#2 Every country has military bunkers in its capital city.
#3 Fuck you for making me defend Jews