Thread 60508622 - /biz/ [Archived: 1094 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: 0xJtzRPQ
6/16/2025, 4:25:40 AM No.60508622
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>The value of the US dollar is falling
>Tariffs are still in place
>Interest rates holding steady
Realistically isn't this going to do exactly what Trump plans and restore American manufacturing? I don't see how a lower-value dollar, encouraging domestic consumption and making exports more competitive, high tariff rates, and a steady interest rate wouldn't do exactly that.
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Anonymous ID: NRee0mX4
6/16/2025, 4:29:14 AM No.60508627
Hey man, if you want to invest in US steel don't let me stop you.
Anonymous ID: h7qNh5rE
6/16/2025, 4:34:25 AM No.60508641
>>60508622 (OP)
you forget that trumps policies will be completely gone in 2 to 4 years. That's not long enough to even plan factories, let alone build them
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Anonymous ID: KfCD8UdM
6/16/2025, 4:36:10 AM No.60508643
Making something more competitive doesn't necessarily make it sufficiently competitive. Manufacturing in the third world is so cheap it would make your head spin. 10% blanket tariffs simply doesn't cut it in many cases. To reach parity and become sufficiently competitive, how low would American production costs (aka wages) have to fall to match third world producers, defeating the point of onshoring manufacturing in the first place? Alternatively, how high would tariffs on imports have to go?
All tariffs actually do is subsidize inefficient producers. That's if they even stick, which they won't. Trump can't even stick to his reciprocal tariffs from two months ago.
Anonymous ID: 0xJtzRPQ
6/16/2025, 5:05:33 AM No.60508707
>>60508641
The value of the USD will not recover though.
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Anonymous ID: h7qNh5rE
6/16/2025, 5:16:32 AM No.60508725
>>60508707
there's no way it's going low enough to compete with foreign manufacturers, and if it did there wouldn't be anyone left to buy the goods anyways.
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Anonymous ID: 0xJtzRPQ
6/16/2025, 6:46:17 AM No.60508901
>>60508725
It's impossible for it not to tank to near zero at this point. People are already switching to the Euro as a reserve currency, the US is experiencing high inflation, and people no longer view US debts as a reliable purchase.
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6/16/2025, 6:48:09 AM No.60508906
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>>60508622 (OP)
Nothing has value compared to piss. We all generate it in a daily basis. Which means we can earn BTC.

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Anonymous ID: y109f+zP
6/16/2025, 6:51:59 AM No.60508915
>>60508641
>you forget that trumps policies will be completely gone in 2 to 4 years
Cope
Anonymous ID: nHV21Y4b
6/16/2025, 8:21:05 AM No.60509080
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Orange retard destroyed the American economy for good. Anyone who voted for him in 2024 (i only voted for him in 2016 so I'm innocent) will have to live with this shame for the rest of their lives
Anonymous ID: OWjcoL5T
6/16/2025, 8:24:02 AM No.60509086
>>60508901
>People are already switching to the Euro
Nah, gold has overtaken the euro as the 2nd reserve. It is going to be gold. Indians love gold, chinese love gold, jews love gold, russians love gold, africans love gold.
Anonymous ID: G2wbLa0W
6/16/2025, 8:24:30 AM No.60509087
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>>60508622 (OP)
Take the pisspill.

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6/16/2025, 7:21:29 PM No.60511252
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>>60508622 (OP)
Myself and other small business owners that I work with have seen a pretty good improvement from the tariffs.
The Chinese copycats can no longer steal our designs in undercut us.
The items that they did steal/Copy from us are now price roughly the same as ours. That is causing their sales to plummet to damn near zero.
The only reason you buy Chinese goods is because they're incredibly cheap. if they're not cheap, there's no point in them even existing.

But my products are also 99.9% made in the USA and US materials.
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Anonymous ID: VBtSeglh
6/17/2025, 1:57:07 AM No.60512610
That only works for export oriented economies. We don't even have enough manufacturing for domestic consumption. All a weak dollar does is increase the cost of imported inputs. A 10% drop in the dollar isn't enough to offset the much higher labor costs anyways.
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Anonymous ID: 04/yNKQc
6/17/2025, 2:55:03 PM No.60513973
>>60512610
Paying american laborers more has positive knock-on effects to the american economy anyway, and should be pursued.
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Anonymous ID: H3rL1dUq
6/17/2025, 2:59:00 PM No.60513984
>>60508622 (OP)
Are you an American or a first-worlder?
I think you have no idea how farming and manufacturing industry really is in the third-world.
Most of these people are doing 300 dollars per MONTH. How exactly the US will compete with that?
Anonymous ID: QQ0PPRvl
6/17/2025, 3:20:02 PM No.60514037
>>60508622 (OP)
Is this a game?
Anonymous ID: VBtSeglh
6/17/2025, 3:22:01 PM No.60514046
>>60513973
American labor is already the most expensive on earth.
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Anonymous ID: 04/yNKQc
6/17/2025, 3:39:10 PM No.60514112
>>60514046
Zero chance of that being true; I expect many countries in the EU to be fighting for top slot there.
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Anonymous ID: onISPdja
6/17/2025, 4:14:12 PM No.60514248
>>60514112
welder wage usa: 70k pa
welder wage germany: ~40k pa
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Anonymous ID: GiSr6KW8
6/17/2025, 4:26:01 PM No.60514298
>>60511252
>99.9% made in the USA and US materials

let me guess, you make cardboard boxes
>American wood pulp shipped to India
>manufactured into cardboard stock
>shipped to china for cutting
>shipped to philipines for printing
>shipped to USA and folded

100% MADE IN THE USA BABY
Anonymous ID: 04/yNKQc
6/17/2025, 4:27:05 PM No.60514304
>>60514248
cursory google says you overshot welding wages in the US by almost half
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6/17/2025, 4:36:25 PM No.60514334
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>>60511252
Honestly, if you were to think about how much the US spends through government spending, people calling it ''crony capitalism'' whenever they don't allow the markets to dictate 100% the organic success or failure of crucial businesses that directly improve the nation's GDP, and then on the flipside, whenever China does reverse capitalism and gets praise for distorting the markets to their advantage, it really feels like most of the time US is just walking on eggshells constantly. And that's without even mentioning the fact that there's a bunch of die-hard communist supporters quick to jump on any bandwagon that claims that capitalism has failed in whatever retarded metrics they've completely fabricated themselves inside of their heads, the self-criticism is one of the major issues the US today grapples with. China doesn't even operate under democracy, and there's supposed to be some mysterious reason as to why they might have capitalized on a niche and done so successfully without backlash due to global complacency and a bunch of other factors, I'm supposed to be thinking that China is doing something right and that they are super-humans. It's pathetic and I'm tired of hearing about it. There are literally no credible sources to pin down exactly how much money China has unsuccessfully invested, but plenty praising China for being able to ''innovate'' and dominate specific markets. Am I wrong to think that if the US had no democracy nor human rights, that they would have been able to outpace China's development within days?